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Feinstein to Retire; Farmers Appoints Hopkins CEO
National News December 14, 2004
An announcement from Zurich Financial Services Group notes that Martin D. Feinstein (56) will retire effective March 31, 2005, as CEO of Farmers Group Inc. (FGI). He will also step down from his ...
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| RE: Perfect Timing Mr Feinstein | Joe Agent | Dec 29, 2004, 1:26 pm |
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| Farmers...one of the great American success stories! | Former agent in MI | Dec 22, 2004, 8:59 am |
| RE: Typical | Tom | Dec 21, 2004, 4:51 pm |
| RE: Typical | Tom | Dec 21, 2004, 4:50 pm |
| RE: Typical | Tom | Dec 21, 2004, 4:50 pm |
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| RE: RE: RE: Marty and Paul | Henry 19yr agent | Dec 21, 2004, 3:55 pm |
| RE: RE: Marty and Paul | Debbie | Dec 21, 2004, 3:21 pm |
| RE: Marty and Paul | Dave | Dec 21, 2004, 11:17 am |
| Marty and Paul | Jim Mulligan | Dec 21, 2004, 10:52 am |
| TIME WILL TELL! | Mike | Dec 20, 2004, 5:44 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Finally... | another Farmers alum | Dec 20, 2004, 5:02 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Finally... | Succesful independent agent | Dec 20, 2004, 3:54 pm |
| Perfect Timing Mr Feinstein | Even | Dec 20, 2004, 1:45 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: John & Zack Both miss the po | Paul 25yr's | Dec 20, 2004, 9:42 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: John & Zack Both mis | Tom | Dec 17, 2004, 3:29 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: John & Zack Both miss th | zack | Dec 17, 2004, 3:02 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: John & Zack Both miss the po | Tom | Dec 17, 2004, 2:50 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: John & Zack Both miss the point | zack | Dec 17, 2004, 2:20 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: John & Zack Both miss the point | Get A Clue Management | Dec 17, 2004, 2:03 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: John & Zack Both miss the point | zack | Dec 17, 2004, 1:50 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: John & Zack Both miss the point | Bill | Dec 17, 2004, 12:41 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: John & Zack Both miss the point | zack | Dec 17, 2004, 12:32 pm |
| RE: RE: John & Zack Both miss the point | Tom | Dec 17, 2004, 12:19 pm |
| RE: John & Zack Both miss the point | Zack | Dec 17, 2004, 12:05 pm |
| John & Zack Both miss the point | Tom | Dec 17, 2004, 10:55 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Zack Misses The Point (P.s) | Zack | Dec 17, 2004, 10:08 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Zack Misses The Point (P.s) | John | Dec 17, 2004, 9:17 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Zack Misses The Point P.s | John | Dec 17, 2004, 9:15 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Zack Misses The Point | John | Dec 16, 2004, 6:15 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Zack Misses The Point | zack | Dec 16, 2004, 6:05 pm |
| RE: RE: Zack Misses The Point | John | Dec 16, 2004, 5:23 pm |
| RE: Zack Misses The Point | zack | Dec 16, 2004, 5:00 pm |
| Zack Misses The Point | John | Dec 16, 2004, 4:51 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Best news yet | Tom | Dec 16, 2004, 4:49 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Best news yet | zack | Dec 16, 2004, 4:40 pm |
| RE: RE: Best news yet | Tom | Dec 16, 2004, 4:32 pm |
| RE: Best news yet | zack | Dec 16, 2004, 4:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Finally... | Tom | Dec 16, 2004, 4:16 pm |
| Best news yet | Bob | Dec 16, 2004, 4:03 pm |
| RE: RE: why | Dave 16yr agent | Dec 16, 2004, 3:31 pm |
| RE: why | Zack | Dec 16, 2004, 3:21 pm |
| RE: RE: Finally... | Nearly Former Agent | Dec 16, 2004, 2:33 pm |
| RE: Finally... | Dave 16yr agent | Dec 16, 2004, 1:38 pm |
| Finally... | Former Farmers Agent | Dec 16, 2004, 9:06 am |
| why | Fred Fieglestien | Dec 15, 2004, 4:42 pm |
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Subject: RE: RE: RE: Zack Misses The Point
I said there are people questioning the disribution system.. I didn't say Farmers was. I belive in the disribution system, but some things have to chage.. ie. performance of the distribution force.
You say to get rid of the upper managment. Could you imagine what would happen if we sent troops into battle without leadership? There are a lot of things those "layers" do that you have no clue about. Having been on both sides, Agent and company, I can tell you that there is a lot one doesn't know about the other. To get rid of managment is foolish. Besides, the existence of those "layers" don't cause your premiums to go up.
Here is the bottom line.
These old timers came in to the business being told if they worked hard for the first few years, they didnt' have to work much harder after that.
You feel misled. And that is your problem. You can't let go of it, and you keep dancing around the issues.
Yes, your auto product isn't competitive...So go sell something else, you only have like 60 other products you can market...
You've spent the last 2 hours writing on this message board... I think you could have gone out and done something more productive than just compalin..