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13 States File Briefs Against Credit Scoring in U.S. Supreme Court Case
National News December 27, 2006
Delaware Insurance Commissioner Matt Denn has taken arguments against insurance industry use of credit scoring to the U.S. Supreme Court, filing a brief in a pending case involving the ...
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| A different perspective | C Hanson | Jan 18, 2007, 12:51 pm |
| RE: Monopolize The Insurance Industry | Ex Geico | Jan 16, 2007, 6:31 pm |
| RE: Dear Ex Geico | Ex Geico | Jan 16, 2007, 6:17 pm |
| Dear Ex Geico | Einstein | Jan 16, 2007, 5:36 pm |
| RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Former GEICO Employee | Jan 16, 2007, 5:00 pm |
| At the end of the day.... | Former GEICO employee | Jan 16, 2007, 4:39 pm |
| really the end...... | Einstein | Jan 5, 2007, 9:09 am |
| Insurance Score Considerations | W. M. Wilson | Jan 4, 2007, 9:34 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Predictor! | R W Schlotzki | Jan 4, 2007, 2:57 pm |
| The end........but | Einstein | Jan 3, 2007, 3:18 pm |
| no credit | chad balaamaba | Jan 3, 2007, 3:07 pm |
| RE: CAS study | Mica | Jan 3, 2007, 3:02 pm |
| CAS study | Getting Screwed | Jan 3, 2007, 1:41 pm |
| credit scoring | former geico employee | Jan 3, 2007, 11:03 am |
| right or wrong? | Einstein | Jan 3, 2007, 10:46 am |
| RE: RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Ray Balaamababa | Jan 3, 2007, 10:26 am |
| RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | LLCJ | Jan 3, 2007, 8:14 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Ed | Jan 2, 2007, 7:53 pm |
| RE: RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Einstein | Jan 2, 2007, 7:42 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Jan 2, 2007, 7:00 pm |
| RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | get real | Jan 2, 2007, 6:31 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | get real | Jan 2, 2007, 6:22 pm |
| RE: Race based underwriting | NTXCoog | Jan 2, 2007, 4:50 pm |
| underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Ray Balaamababa | Jan 2, 2007, 4:00 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | LLCJ | Jan 2, 2007, 3:50 pm |
| RE: RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Ray Balaamababa | Jan 2, 2007, 3:25 pm |
| RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | LLCJ | Jan 2, 2007, 3:18 pm |
| underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Ray Balaamababa | Jan 2, 2007, 2:36 pm |
| RE: RE: Predictor! | LLCJ | Jan 2, 2007, 1:11 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Jan 1, 2007, 3:27 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | get real | Jan 1, 2007, 3:02 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Jan 1, 2007, 1:07 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | get real | Jan 1, 2007, 10:48 am |
| RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Dec 31, 2006, 1:56 pm |
| RE: The real World ( get real) | get real | Dec 31, 2006, 1:45 pm |
| RE: The real World ( get real) | Mjolnir | Dec 31, 2006, 12:34 pm |
| The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Dec 30, 2006, 9:24 pm |
| The real World | Eintstein | Dec 30, 2006, 9:06 pm |
| RE: right or wrong? | get real | Dec 30, 2006, 8:44 pm |
| RE: right or wrong? | Mica | Dec 30, 2006, 7:34 pm |
| right or wrong? | einstein | Dec 30, 2006, 4:04 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | get real | Dec 30, 2006, 11:00 am |
| RE: RE: Touch a nerve | get real | Dec 30, 2006, 10:52 am |
| RE: Touch a nerve | get real | Dec 30, 2006, 10:48 am |
| RE: RE: RE: The Study | Get real | Dec 30, 2006, 10:43 am |
| only time will tell | Einstein | Dec 29, 2006, 1:10 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring Vs Insurance Scoring | Mica | Dec 29, 2006, 11:44 am |
| Monopolize The Insurance Industry | Justice | Dec 29, 2006, 10:34 am |
| Credit Scoring Vs Insurance Scoring | JB | Dec 29, 2006, 6:35 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Einstein | Dec 28, 2006, 8:23 pm |
| RE: RE: Touch a nerve | Dennis | Dec 28, 2006, 4:49 pm |
| RE: Touch a nerve | Mica | Dec 28, 2006, 1:26 pm |
| RE: Predictor! | needs proof | Dec 28, 2006, 1:13 pm |
| Credit Scoring | Nan | Dec 28, 2006, 11:16 am |
| Thank you. | Mjolnir | Dec 28, 2006, 9:39 am |
| insurancescore.net is Fraudulent | David | Dec 28, 2006, 8:52 am |
| Credit Scoring | Insurance Monkey | Dec 28, 2006, 8:47 am |
| RE: Credit Scoring | caveat emptor | Dec 27, 2006, 6:22 pm |
| Credit Scoring | Mjolnir | Dec 27, 2006, 5:28 pm |
| RE: RE: Calif Rating System Works Without Credit Scoring | John Scrader | Dec 27, 2006, 5:00 pm |
| RE: Calif Rating System Works Without Credit Scoring | Calif Agent | Dec 27, 2006, 4:41 pm |
| what a discussion! | bob | Dec 27, 2006, 4:30 pm |
| RE: Unintended Consequences | Humor | Dec 27, 2006, 4:29 pm |
| Unintended Consequences | Joe Agent | Dec 27, 2006, 4:21 pm |
| RE: RE: The Study | Tiffany Sanders | Dec 27, 2006, 3:53 pm |
| abolish credit scoring - increase my commission | gill fin | Dec 27, 2006, 3:51 pm |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Dawn | Dec 27, 2006, 3:45 pm |
| Geico | Coach | Dec 27, 2006, 3:44 pm |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Tracy | Dec 27, 2006, 3:36 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | John D. Wiemann | Dec 27, 2006, 3:17 pm |
| RE: The Study | Danny P | Dec 27, 2006, 3:10 pm |
| Touch a nerve | Don | Dec 27, 2006, 3:06 pm |
| The Study | PL Guy | Dec 27, 2006, 3:00 pm |
| Race based ....To: LLJC | Danny P | Dec 27, 2006, 2:57 pm |
| RE: RE: Race based underwriting | LLCJ | Dec 27, 2006, 2:48 pm |
| To Bob | Abe | Dec 27, 2006, 2:34 pm |
| RE: Race based underwriting | MC | Dec 27, 2006, 2:27 pm |
| RE: Race based underwriting | bob | Dec 27, 2006, 2:25 pm |
| Race based underwriting | Danny P | Dec 27, 2006, 2:17 pm |
| I love credit scoring | bob | Dec 27, 2006, 2:16 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | ernie | Dec 27, 2006, 2:11 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Judgment, decisions | Dec 27, 2006, 1:42 pm |
| Predictor! | LLCJ | Dec 27, 2006, 1:41 pm |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | JW | Dec 27, 2006, 1:39 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | C.Williams | Dec 27, 2006, 1:31 pm |
| Credit rating of Insurance rating | Ron Meyer | Dec 27, 2006, 1:27 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | LLCJ | Dec 27, 2006, 1:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | The Truth | Dec 27, 2006, 1:25 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Really??? | Dec 27, 2006, 1:17 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Can't believe this crap | Dec 27, 2006, 1:12 pm |
| Redlined | Jeff the Cynic | Dec 27, 2006, 11:52 am |
| Credit Scoring Biased | Redlined | Dec 27, 2006, 11:19 am |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | get real | Dec 27, 2006, 10:55 am |
| RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Mjolnir | Dec 27, 2006, 10:43 am |
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Subject: RE: The real World ( get real)
As far as your statement "...it does not mean that people with higher credit scores are all better drivers." No ****. What it means is there is a statistical correlation between credit scores and claims. Not accidents- claims. And not all credit scores are right? Good point... except where you forgot to realize that A) the majority are and 2) victims of credit fraud file claims for losses under homeowners. How about that- a bad credit score leading to losses. I'm sure your favorite carrier is just aching to have loss ratios over 1. Because we all know that the way to profitability and continued policy service is year after year of financial losses.
Here's a radical idea- companies want to take money in, and keep it. God Damn those heartless corporations- how dare they make a profit- it's downright un-Venezuelan. They don't want to take it in and give it back out. Loss is a function of insurance, but underwriters and actuaries are rewarded for identifying potential losses and guarding against them.
In all the rants against "excessive premiums" and "the tragedy of uninsured citizens" I have yet to hear one of you rant against the root causes of expensive insurance. How about a big cheer for tort reform, lower medical costs, and getting senile, immature, and drunk drivers off the road- permanently? If credit scoring is leading to higher premiums for a particular customer of yours, why don't you earn your fee by contacting the carrier and getting an adjustment? If all we do is submit apps and collect premium checks we might as well show all our customers how to use Geico or e-surance and go into a different line of work.
Do you really believe that the government should be in charge of nationalized insurance? After their stellar record on social security, veterans benefits, and military spending? Yeah- good plan genius. Let's turn auto insurance over to the hard working legislators responsible for the up-armored humvee program. Remember that debacle on the nightly news?
I'll meet you halfway- you prove that insurance companies are doing anything more than pursuing profit, and I'll agree they should be closed down. If they are discriminating on anything other than potential loss, they should be hammered into extinction. However, if all they're doing is attempting to identify (and charge for) potential losses, what's the problem?
Or are you just