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13 States File Briefs Against Credit Scoring in U.S. Supreme Court Case
National News December 27, 2006
Delaware Insurance Commissioner Matt Denn has taken arguments against insurance industry use of credit scoring to the U.S. Supreme Court, filing a brief in a pending case involving the ...
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|---|---|---|
| A different perspective | C Hanson | Jan 18, 2007, 12:51 pm |
| RE: Monopolize The Insurance Industry | Ex Geico | Jan 16, 2007, 6:31 pm |
| RE: Dear Ex Geico | Ex Geico | Jan 16, 2007, 6:17 pm |
| Dear Ex Geico | Einstein | Jan 16, 2007, 5:36 pm |
| RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Former GEICO Employee | Jan 16, 2007, 5:00 pm |
| At the end of the day.... | Former GEICO employee | Jan 16, 2007, 4:39 pm |
| really the end...... | Einstein | Jan 5, 2007, 9:09 am |
| Insurance Score Considerations | W. M. Wilson | Jan 4, 2007, 9:34 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Predictor! | R W Schlotzki | Jan 4, 2007, 2:57 pm |
| The end........but | Einstein | Jan 3, 2007, 3:18 pm |
| no credit | chad balaamaba | Jan 3, 2007, 3:07 pm |
| RE: CAS study | Mica | Jan 3, 2007, 3:02 pm |
| CAS study | Getting Screwed | Jan 3, 2007, 1:41 pm |
| credit scoring | former geico employee | Jan 3, 2007, 11:03 am |
| right or wrong? | Einstein | Jan 3, 2007, 10:46 am |
| RE: RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Ray Balaamababa | Jan 3, 2007, 10:26 am |
| RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | LLCJ | Jan 3, 2007, 8:14 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Ed | Jan 2, 2007, 7:53 pm |
| RE: RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Einstein | Jan 2, 2007, 7:42 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Jan 2, 2007, 7:00 pm |
| RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | get real | Jan 2, 2007, 6:31 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | get real | Jan 2, 2007, 6:22 pm |
| RE: Race based underwriting | NTXCoog | Jan 2, 2007, 4:50 pm |
| underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Ray Balaamababa | Jan 2, 2007, 4:00 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | LLCJ | Jan 2, 2007, 3:50 pm |
| RE: RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Ray Balaamababa | Jan 2, 2007, 3:25 pm |
| RE: underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | LLCJ | Jan 2, 2007, 3:18 pm |
| underwriting isn't as simple as checking credit | Ray Balaamababa | Jan 2, 2007, 2:36 pm |
| RE: RE: Predictor! | LLCJ | Jan 2, 2007, 1:11 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Jan 1, 2007, 3:27 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | get real | Jan 1, 2007, 3:02 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Jan 1, 2007, 1:07 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | get real | Jan 1, 2007, 10:48 am |
| RE: RE: The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Dec 31, 2006, 1:56 pm |
| RE: The real World ( get real) | get real | Dec 31, 2006, 1:45 pm |
| RE: The real World ( get real) | Mjolnir | Dec 31, 2006, 12:34 pm |
| The real World ( get real) | Einstein | Dec 30, 2006, 9:24 pm |
| The real World | Eintstein | Dec 30, 2006, 9:06 pm |
| RE: right or wrong? | get real | Dec 30, 2006, 8:44 pm |
| RE: right or wrong? | Mica | Dec 30, 2006, 7:34 pm |
| right or wrong? | einstein | Dec 30, 2006, 4:04 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | get real | Dec 30, 2006, 11:00 am |
| RE: RE: Touch a nerve | get real | Dec 30, 2006, 10:52 am |
| RE: Touch a nerve | get real | Dec 30, 2006, 10:48 am |
| RE: RE: RE: The Study | Get real | Dec 30, 2006, 10:43 am |
| only time will tell | Einstein | Dec 29, 2006, 1:10 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring Vs Insurance Scoring | Mica | Dec 29, 2006, 11:44 am |
| Monopolize The Insurance Industry | Justice | Dec 29, 2006, 10:34 am |
| Credit Scoring Vs Insurance Scoring | JB | Dec 29, 2006, 6:35 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Einstein | Dec 28, 2006, 8:23 pm |
| RE: RE: Touch a nerve | Dennis | Dec 28, 2006, 4:49 pm |
| RE: Touch a nerve | Mica | Dec 28, 2006, 1:26 pm |
| RE: Predictor! | needs proof | Dec 28, 2006, 1:13 pm |
| Credit Scoring | Nan | Dec 28, 2006, 11:16 am |
| Thank you. | Mjolnir | Dec 28, 2006, 9:39 am |
| insurancescore.net is Fraudulent | David | Dec 28, 2006, 8:52 am |
| Credit Scoring | Insurance Monkey | Dec 28, 2006, 8:47 am |
| RE: Credit Scoring | caveat emptor | Dec 27, 2006, 6:22 pm |
| Credit Scoring | Mjolnir | Dec 27, 2006, 5:28 pm |
| RE: RE: Calif Rating System Works Without Credit Scoring | John Scrader | Dec 27, 2006, 5:00 pm |
| RE: Calif Rating System Works Without Credit Scoring | Calif Agent | Dec 27, 2006, 4:41 pm |
| what a discussion! | bob | Dec 27, 2006, 4:30 pm |
| RE: Unintended Consequences | Humor | Dec 27, 2006, 4:29 pm |
| Unintended Consequences | Joe Agent | Dec 27, 2006, 4:21 pm |
| RE: RE: The Study | Tiffany Sanders | Dec 27, 2006, 3:53 pm |
| abolish credit scoring - increase my commission | gill fin | Dec 27, 2006, 3:51 pm |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Dawn | Dec 27, 2006, 3:45 pm |
| Geico | Coach | Dec 27, 2006, 3:44 pm |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Tracy | Dec 27, 2006, 3:36 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | John D. Wiemann | Dec 27, 2006, 3:17 pm |
| RE: The Study | Danny P | Dec 27, 2006, 3:10 pm |
| Touch a nerve | Don | Dec 27, 2006, 3:06 pm |
| The Study | PL Guy | Dec 27, 2006, 3:00 pm |
| Race based ....To: LLJC | Danny P | Dec 27, 2006, 2:57 pm |
| RE: RE: Race based underwriting | LLCJ | Dec 27, 2006, 2:48 pm |
| To Bob | Abe | Dec 27, 2006, 2:34 pm |
| RE: Race based underwriting | MC | Dec 27, 2006, 2:27 pm |
| RE: Race based underwriting | bob | Dec 27, 2006, 2:25 pm |
| Race based underwriting | Danny P | Dec 27, 2006, 2:17 pm |
| I love credit scoring | bob | Dec 27, 2006, 2:16 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | ernie | Dec 27, 2006, 2:11 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Judgment, decisions | Dec 27, 2006, 1:42 pm |
| Predictor! | LLCJ | Dec 27, 2006, 1:41 pm |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | JW | Dec 27, 2006, 1:39 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | C.Williams | Dec 27, 2006, 1:31 pm |
| Credit rating of Insurance rating | Ron Meyer | Dec 27, 2006, 1:27 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | LLCJ | Dec 27, 2006, 1:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | The Truth | Dec 27, 2006, 1:25 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Really??? | Dec 27, 2006, 1:17 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Can't believe this crap | Dec 27, 2006, 1:12 pm |
| Redlined | Jeff the Cynic | Dec 27, 2006, 11:52 am |
| Credit Scoring Biased | Redlined | Dec 27, 2006, 11:19 am |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring Biased | get real | Dec 27, 2006, 10:55 am |
| RE: Credit Scoring Biased | Mjolnir | Dec 27, 2006, 10:43 am |
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Subject: RE: Dear Ex Geico
As far as the bus example, it isn't an applicable analogy. Bus service is generally a government subsidized benefit for the population. Insurance isn't and shouldn't be due to the morale and moral hazards that would be incurred. I suggest better examples would be:
Taxi - Charges by the distance segment, risk, based on costs to get there plus a reasonable profit.
Landlord - Charges a higher rent and security deposit based on the assumed greater risk of a tenent with a pet.
If you were to privatize the bus service and have that service have certain buses carry engineers and others carry (assumed)dirty roofers, all other being the same or otherwise mitigated, over time the bus company would charge a higher rate for the roofers in order to compensate for its higher costs.
Auto Insurance is a funny product: A promise to pay for a loss that is at least partially controllable by the insureds actions. You can't socialize it for the reasons mentioned above, Massachusetts and NJ proof positive, but if you make it completely objective (fairly discriminatory)someone -class is going to suffer, pay more. The leftover question is are the risks paying the premium for the risk the represent? Regardless of anything subjective a yes answer to that can be the only acceptable solution...