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Risk Managers Take Strong Stand Against Contingent Commissions
National News May 30, 2007
The largest association of commercial insurance buyers has stepped-up its opposition to the acceptance of contingent compensation by any agent or broker, calling such compensation "an inherent ...
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| Subject | Posted By | Posted On |
|---|---|---|
| Letter to Risk Managers | Roscoe | Jun 1, 2007, 4:46 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? | Risk Manager in Florida | Jun 1, 2007, 1:28 pm |
| Let's step back and take a look at this... | James S. | Jun 1, 2007, 11:56 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? | RNR_Risk | Jun 1, 2007, 11:30 am |
| RIMS should stay out of compensation debate | Seeman Waranch | Jun 1, 2007, 10:55 am |
| Risk Mgrs heads are in the sand | Eric Bolding | Jun 1, 2007, 8:47 am |
| RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION | merrill keller | Jun 1, 2007, 7:57 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? | Risk Manager in Florida | Jun 1, 2007, 6:16 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? | PLJ | Jun 1, 2007, 3:49 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? | TX | Jun 1, 2007, 2:20 am |
| RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? | RNR_Risk | Jun 1, 2007, 12:40 am |
| RE: RE: RE: Third-Party Audits(tell me no) | PLJ | Jun 1, 2007, 12:27 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Contingent Commisions(tell me no) | PLJ | Jun 1, 2007, 12:24 am |
| RE: RE: Third-Party Audits | In Favor of Audits | May 31, 2007, 9:17 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Contingent Commisions | Please Tell Me, No | May 31, 2007, 9:07 pm |
| RE: RE: Contingent Commisions | PLJ | May 31, 2007, 9:03 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION | TX | May 31, 2007, 8:25 pm |
| RE: RE: What's the right way? | TX | May 31, 2007, 7:52 pm |
| Premium Finance - Agency Fee Income on financing | Fly on Wall | May 31, 2007, 7:46 pm |
| RE: Contigent Commisions | jim | May 31, 2007, 7:06 pm |
| RE: What's the right way? | RNR_Risk | May 31, 2007, 6:09 pm |
| What's the right way? | Vince | May 31, 2007, 5:53 pm |
| Are you kidding me? | Risk Adverse | May 31, 2007, 3:04 pm |
| RE: Third-Party Audits | RM in NC | May 31, 2007, 2:57 pm |
| RE: RE: If we really wanted to see change... | Whirling | May 31, 2007, 2:50 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION | Risk Manager in Florida | May 31, 2007, 2:35 pm |
| Willis's position | mike | May 31, 2007, 2:07 pm |
| RE: Contingent Commisions | Contingent CEO's | May 31, 2007, 1:47 pm |
| Contingent Commisions | Kevin C. McAdams | May 31, 2007, 1:17 pm |
| RE: RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION | Clark Minton | May 31, 2007, 1:04 pm |
| how risk managers should pay for services | Jim | May 31, 2007, 1:00 pm |
| Semantics | CB | May 31, 2007, 11:26 am |
| Third-Party Audits | Chris at DHH Consulting | May 31, 2007, 11:09 am |
| RE: Lazy Risk Managers | mainemiss | May 31, 2007, 11:08 am |
| CONTINGENT COMPESATION | Bob Meeks | May 31, 2007, 10:22 am |
| RE: RIMS | Peter | May 31, 2007, 9:54 am |
| RE: It is truly amazing | mainemiss | May 31, 2007, 9:52 am |
| It is truly amazing | adjusterjoe | May 31, 2007, 9:14 am |
| What is the REAL issue? | Risk Manager in Florida | May 31, 2007, 6:52 am |
| RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION | Julie | May 30, 2007, 10:10 pm |
| Let;s be honest | Been Around Too Long | May 30, 2007, 9:59 pm |
| RE: Compensation | Ted Kluemper Jr. | May 30, 2007, 9:38 pm |
| RE: How is Regular Commission not a conflict? | Hans | May 30, 2007, 7:48 pm |
| RM's caused this problem- now have lace on their panties? | Mark Hutch | May 30, 2007, 6:50 pm |
| PUBLIC RM'S WERE THE ONES PAID BY BROKERS | PERMANENT JOB RM'S | May 30, 2007, 6:32 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Lazy Risk Managers | Casharoo! | May 30, 2007, 5:52 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Lazy Risk Managers | DLK | May 30, 2007, 5:43 pm |
| RE: RE: Lazy Risk Managers | pinky | May 30, 2007, 5:40 pm |
| Compensation | Michael | May 30, 2007, 5:16 pm |
| Compensation | Michael | May 30, 2007, 5:16 pm |
| RE: This same defective thinking is dumbing down our schools | JAM | May 30, 2007, 4:56 pm |
| Boycott Rims Convention | Joe Neen | May 30, 2007, 4:56 pm |
| RE: If we really wanted to see change... | RNR_Risk | May 30, 2007, 4:54 pm |
| RE: If we really wanted to see change... | Ticked off in WA | May 30, 2007, 4:45 pm |
| If we really wanted to see change... | MD | May 30, 2007, 4:31 pm |
| RE: RE: Not in their best interest | RIMShot | May 30, 2007, 4:27 pm |
| RE: Lazy Risk Managers | Black Angus Corporate Laspe | May 30, 2007, 4:26 pm |
| How is Regular Commission not a conflict? | Buyer | May 30, 2007, 4:25 pm |
| RE: Not in their best interest | An old insurance hand | May 30, 2007, 4:21 pm |
| RE: RE: Not in their best interest | Joe Mach | May 30, 2007, 4:18 pm |
| Lazy Risk Managers | Your Bond Source | May 30, 2007, 4:17 pm |
| RIMS | DLP | May 30, 2007, 4:14 pm |
| RE: RE: Are risk managers that dumb? | Still in Denial of Calif. | May 30, 2007, 4:13 pm |
| RE: This same defective thinking is dumbing down our schools | Paul | May 30, 2007, 4:05 pm |
| federal regulated commission rates too.. | Same | May 30, 2007, 4:04 pm |
| federal regulated commission rates too.. | Same | May 30, 2007, 4:04 pm |
| RE: Are risk managers that dumb? | San Jose's CA. Regional Risk | May 30, 2007, 4:03 pm |
| RE: Not in their best interest | Tom Myers | May 30, 2007, 4:01 pm |
| RE: RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION | RIMShot | May 30, 2007, 4:01 pm |
| Are risk managers that dumb? | Clark | May 30, 2007, 3:57 pm |
| RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION | Kevin M. Ryan | May 30, 2007, 3:55 pm |
| This same defective thinking is dumbing down our schools | Realist | May 30, 2007, 3:50 pm |
| Contigent Commisions | RIMShot | May 30, 2007, 3:47 pm |
| Foxes want control of the hen house | Papa | May 30, 2007, 3:44 pm |
| CONTINGENT COMPENSATION | Fred DiMeo | May 30, 2007, 3:44 pm |
| Not in their best interest | TigerARM | May 30, 2007, 3:38 pm |
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Subject: RE: Not in their best interest
Partnerships? OMG, you may have to get outside of your comfort zone and contact another broker? Heaven forbid. Bottom line...if you don't trust your current vendor to get you the most competitive price for the most comprehensive coverage, then it's time to switch vendors.
I am a small, main-street independent agent and I disagree with the notion that contingencies cause a conflict of interest. The contingencies make sure I don't start placing marginal business (read: overly susceptible to loss) in preferred companies. I don't have the ability, due to competition, to "bid rig" or steer business. Many of my competitors have the same companies as I and the companies give everyone the same quote.
I do not deal with risk managers because the companies I insure are smaller.
While I agree that the bid-rigging/steering scandal that happened is unethical and greedy, I lay much of the blame on the highly paid, highly educated risk managers that allowed them to get away with it simply because they were too lazy/busy to contact another broker/company for alternative quotes. This is what your being paid for RIMS members...if you don't understand the insurance business, then you can't do your job effectively.