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Risk Managers Take Strong Stand Against Contingent Commissions

National News • May 30, 2007
The largest association of commercial insurance buyers has stepped-up its opposition to the acceptance of contingent compensation by any agent or broker, calling such compensation "an inherent ...

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Subject: Let;s be honest

Posted On: May 30, 2007, 9:59 pm CDT
Posted By: Been Around Too Long
Comment:
Why can't the RIMS boys and girls be honest about contingent commissions. It's no secret the big three public brokers have realized between 1/3 and 1/2 of their revenues from contingent commissions. To give this up without an adjustment in their compensation means a real hit for their stockholders. The truth of the matter is the RIMS crowd wants to capture the savings at the expense of the brokers and not pay them additional compensation to make up a single cent of their reduction in income. This greed on their part is justified by claiming that contingencies are in conflict with agents and brokers in looking out for their client's best interest. Following the Spitzer witch hunt and the brokers and employees involved in bid rigging, any agent or broker would be lunatic to engage in bid rigging in the future. Rewarding businesses for performance is as American as "Apple Pie". There is nothing in and of itself wrong with rewarding performance. Bid rigging is illegal without question. One would have to assume as a result of the Spitzer investigations and criminal charges that this activity is over. If RIMS is opposed to Contingencies, then they should agree to make up a substantial portion of the lost income with flat fees for service so that no broker has to suffer a 50% reduction in income for the same level of service. If rewarding business for performance is inherently a conflict of interest, then every AG in the US needs to go after every business in existance that pays bonuses or incentives to their sales staff. After all, the argument should apply to all businesses that receive incentive rewards. Any rewards paid make any product or service cost more to the comsumer.
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Letter to Risk Managers Roscoe
Jun 1, 2007, 4:46 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? Risk Manager in Florida
Jun 1, 2007, 1:28 pm
Let's step back and take a look at this... James S.
Jun 1, 2007, 11:56 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? RNR_Risk
Jun 1, 2007, 11:30 am
RIMS should stay out of compensation debate Seeman Waranch
Jun 1, 2007, 10:55 am
Risk Mgrs heads are in the sand Eric Bolding
Jun 1, 2007, 8:47 am
RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION merrill keller
Jun 1, 2007, 7:57 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? Risk Manager in Florida
Jun 1, 2007, 6:16 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? PLJ
Jun 1, 2007, 3:49 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? TX
Jun 1, 2007, 2:20 am
RE: RE: RE: What's the right way? RNR_Risk
Jun 1, 2007, 12:40 am
RE: RE: RE: Third-Party Audits(tell me no) PLJ
Jun 1, 2007, 12:27 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: Contingent Commisions(tell me no) PLJ
Jun 1, 2007, 12:24 am
RE: RE: Third-Party Audits In Favor of Audits
May 31, 2007, 9:17 pm
RE: RE: RE: Contingent Commisions Please Tell Me, No
May 31, 2007, 9:07 pm
RE: RE: Contingent Commisions PLJ
May 31, 2007, 9:03 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION TX
May 31, 2007, 8:25 pm
RE: RE: What's the right way? TX
May 31, 2007, 7:52 pm
Premium Finance - Agency Fee Income on financing Fly on Wall
May 31, 2007, 7:46 pm
RE: Contigent Commisions jim
May 31, 2007, 7:06 pm
RE: What's the right way? RNR_Risk
May 31, 2007, 6:09 pm
What's the right way? Vince
May 31, 2007, 5:53 pm
Are you kidding me? Risk Adverse
May 31, 2007, 3:04 pm
RE: Third-Party Audits RM in NC
May 31, 2007, 2:57 pm
RE: RE: If we really wanted to see change... Whirling
May 31, 2007, 2:50 pm
RE: RE: RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION Risk Manager in Florida
May 31, 2007, 2:35 pm
Willis's position mike
May 31, 2007, 2:07 pm
RE: Contingent Commisions Contingent CEO's
May 31, 2007, 1:47 pm
Contingent Commisions Kevin C. McAdams
May 31, 2007, 1:17 pm
RE: RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION Clark Minton
May 31, 2007, 1:04 pm
how risk managers should pay for services Jim
May 31, 2007, 1:00 pm
Semantics CB
May 31, 2007, 11:26 am
Third-Party Audits Chris at DHH Consulting
May 31, 2007, 11:09 am
RE: Lazy Risk Managers mainemiss
May 31, 2007, 11:08 am
CONTINGENT COMPESATION Bob Meeks
May 31, 2007, 10:22 am
RE: RIMS Peter
May 31, 2007, 9:54 am
RE: It is truly amazing mainemiss
May 31, 2007, 9:52 am
It is truly amazing adjusterjoe
May 31, 2007, 9:14 am
What is the REAL issue? Risk Manager in Florida
May 31, 2007, 6:52 am
RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION Julie
May 30, 2007, 10:10 pm
Let;s be honest Been Around Too Long
May 30, 2007, 9:59 pm
RE: Compensation Ted Kluemper Jr.
May 30, 2007, 9:38 pm
RE: How is Regular Commission not a conflict? Hans
May 30, 2007, 7:48 pm
RM's caused this problem- now have lace on their panties? Mark Hutch
May 30, 2007, 6:50 pm
PUBLIC RM'S WERE THE ONES PAID BY BROKERS PERMANENT JOB RM'S
May 30, 2007, 6:32 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: Lazy Risk Managers Casharoo!
May 30, 2007, 5:52 pm
RE: RE: RE: Lazy Risk Managers DLK
May 30, 2007, 5:43 pm
RE: RE: Lazy Risk Managers pinky
May 30, 2007, 5:40 pm
Compensation Michael
May 30, 2007, 5:16 pm
Compensation Michael
May 30, 2007, 5:16 pm
RE: This same defective thinking is dumbing down our schools JAM
May 30, 2007, 4:56 pm
Boycott Rims Convention Joe Neen
May 30, 2007, 4:56 pm
RE: If we really wanted to see change... RNR_Risk
May 30, 2007, 4:54 pm
RE: If we really wanted to see change... Ticked off in WA
May 30, 2007, 4:45 pm
If we really wanted to see change... MD
May 30, 2007, 4:31 pm
RE: RE: Not in their best interest RIMShot
May 30, 2007, 4:27 pm
RE: Lazy Risk Managers Black Angus Corporate Laspe
May 30, 2007, 4:26 pm
How is Regular Commission not a conflict? Buyer
May 30, 2007, 4:25 pm
RE: Not in their best interest An old insurance hand
May 30, 2007, 4:21 pm
RE: RE: Not in their best interest Joe Mach
May 30, 2007, 4:18 pm
Lazy Risk Managers Your Bond Source
May 30, 2007, 4:17 pm
RIMS DLP
May 30, 2007, 4:14 pm
RE: RE: Are risk managers that dumb? Still in Denial of Calif.
May 30, 2007, 4:13 pm
RE: This same defective thinking is dumbing down our schools Paul
May 30, 2007, 4:05 pm
federal regulated commission rates too.. Same
May 30, 2007, 4:04 pm
federal regulated commission rates too.. Same
May 30, 2007, 4:04 pm
RE: Are risk managers that dumb? San Jose's CA. Regional Risk
May 30, 2007, 4:03 pm
RE: Not in their best interest Tom Myers
May 30, 2007, 4:01 pm
RE: RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION RIMShot
May 30, 2007, 4:01 pm
Are risk managers that dumb? Clark
May 30, 2007, 3:57 pm
RE: CONTINGENT COMPENSATION Kevin M. Ryan
May 30, 2007, 3:55 pm
This same defective thinking is dumbing down our schools Realist
May 30, 2007, 3:50 pm
Contigent Commisions RIMShot
May 30, 2007, 3:47 pm
Foxes want control of the hen house Papa
May 30, 2007, 3:44 pm
CONTINGENT COMPENSATION Fred DiMeo
May 30, 2007, 3:44 pm
Not in their best interest TigerARM
May 30, 2007, 3:38 pm
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