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Katrina at Two Years: $40.6 Billion Paid on 1.7 Million Insurance Claims

National News • August 7, 2007
Two years later, the "overwhelming majority of claims" in Gulf Coast states from Hurricane Katrina have been settled in what has been the single largest loss — $40.6 billion — in the history of ...

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Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important]

Posted On: August 9, 2007, 8:38 am CDT
Posted By: Sam
Comment:
Joe, Nationwide's concurrent causation language is the subject of an appeal in MS (Leonard v. Nationwide). Concurrent causation language has not been struck down everywhere, as your post seems to infer. Do you know for a fact that this language/issue has been tried in every jurisdiction? This is not a sarcastic question. I'm curious to know what you know about this subject in states other than OK, MS & LA.

Using your example of wind damage followed the next day by a sinkhole. If a non-covered event follows that closely to a covered event (wind), the home is still a total loss. How can ANY adjuster determine how much wind damage there was? (Again, no sarcasm here.) How can the policyholder be indemnified for the wind loss when they themselves cannot prove the damages that arose from the wind damage? Situations such as this are the basis for concurrent causation language, isn't it?

This leads into the recent 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling on VPL (Valued Policy Laws), which attorneys and policyholders have been using to rape carriers (ALL carriers) when there are concurrent causation issues. Is it OK for policyholders to get full value of the policy/property when the a portion of the loss was caused by a non-covered event even if the covered event did not total the property?

I'm not going to debate bonuses, pay, profits, etc. I am just trying to understand your position on why it is OK for policyholders and attorneys to interpret the policy way beyond what was ever intended, but it is not OK for carriers to rely on the approved wording in a policy to deny a claim.
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To: adjusterjoe RE: Nationwide v. Leonard Mark
Aug 31, 2007, 8:50 am
RE: Pay What is Owed adjusterjoe
Aug 10, 2007, 8:36 am
Pay What is Owed Sam
Aug 10, 2007, 8:05 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 10, 2007, 7:59 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW Mark
Aug 10, 2007, 7:44 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW OMG adjusterjoe's back
Aug 9, 2007, 5:37 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 4:59 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW Mary B.
Aug 9, 2007, 4:32 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW chrome
Aug 9, 2007, 4:16 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 2:17 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 2:06 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW Nobody Important
Aug 9, 2007, 1:33 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 1:30 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 12:52 pm
RE: RE: RE: BTW Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 12:32 pm
RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 12:02 pm
RE: BTW Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 11:50 am
BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 11:08 am
RE: Adjusterjoe adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 10:59 am
re: Adjuster Joe Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 10:31 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 9:43 am
[To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 9:11 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 8:38 am
RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Nobody Important
Aug 9, 2007, 6:58 am
RE: RE: [To Nobody important][Appraiserjoe] chrome
Aug 8, 2007, 11:18 pm
RE: [To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 10:20 pm
[To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 10:16 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Continuation Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 8:38 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 8:34 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Continuation chrome
Aug 8, 2007, 6:32 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 4:25 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 3:45 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 3:40 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 3:11 pm
Glad for concurrent causation State Farm Policyholder
Aug 8, 2007, 2:34 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] chrome
Aug 8, 2007, 2:10 pm
RE: RE: RE: kathy - good work Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 1:48 pm
RE: kathy - good work chrome
Aug 8, 2007, 12:30 pm
RE: RE: kathy - good work adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 12:17 pm
RE: kathy - good work Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 12:00 pm
kathy - good work kathys mom
Aug 8, 2007, 10:35 am
RE: RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? Tapper
Aug 8, 2007, 8:57 am
RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? Anon
Aug 8, 2007, 12:43 am
Where's the news about how terrible we are? Tired like every chrome
Aug 7, 2007, 9:10 pm
RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? chrome
Aug 7, 2007, 9:05 pm
I care, but I am tired! Tired like everyone else
Aug 7, 2007, 6:40 pm
RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? g
Aug 7, 2007, 4:59 pm
RE: RE: RE: Does AnyoneCARE???? Kathy
Aug 7, 2007, 4:53 pm
RE: RE: Re: adjusterjoe adjusterjoe
Aug 7, 2007, 4:31 pm
RE: RE: Re: adjusterjoe Anon
Aug 7, 2007, 4:04 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Where's[In Joe's corner] chrome
Aug 7, 2007, 3:05 pm
RE: Re: adjusterjoe ClaimsGuy
Aug 7, 2007, 3:03 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we a chrome
Aug 7, 2007, 3:01 pm
Wait... no wait... Joe's right. Anon
Aug 7, 2007, 2:51 pm
Re: adjusterjoe concerned agent
Aug 7, 2007, 2:24 pm
RE: RE: Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. Wondering
Aug 7, 2007, 2:00 pm
RE: Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. Mary B.
Aug 7, 2007, 1:44 pm
RE: Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. adjusterjoe
Aug 7, 2007, 1:22 pm
RE: Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. Mark
Aug 7, 2007, 1:17 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? Mark
Aug 7, 2007, 1:14 pm
Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. Been there
Aug 7, 2007, 1:09 pm
RE: RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? adjusterjoe
Aug 7, 2007, 12:10 pm
RE: RE: Does AnyoneCARE???? DWT
Aug 7, 2007, 11:35 am
RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are?
Aug 7, 2007, 11:27 am
RE: Does AnyoneCARE????
Aug 7, 2007, 11:23 am
RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? Anon
Aug 7, 2007, 10:29 am
Does Anyone Know? DWT
Aug 7, 2007, 9:33 am
RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? adjusterjoe
Aug 7, 2007, 8:59 am
Where's the news about how terrible we are? Anon
Aug 7, 2007, 7:51 am
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