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Katrina at Two Years: $40.6 Billion Paid on 1.7 Million Insurance Claims

National News • August 7, 2007
Two years later, the "overwhelming majority of claims" in Gulf Coast states from Hurricane Katrina have been settled in what has been the single largest loss — $40.6 billion — in the history of ...

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Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important]

Posted On: August 9, 2007, 9:43 am CDT
Posted By: adjusterjoe
Comment:
Sam:

As far as concurrent causation, I have worked claims all over the US and the only times I have ever run across it was in hurricanes and as far back as 1994 in Hurricane Opal, concurrent causation was not applied. The courts sometimes do use good sense. I repeat from my earlier post; Why should a legitimately owed claim be able to be denied in its entirity just because another loss occurs? I paid losses in FLA in Opal with "CONCURRENT CAUSATION." The courts look at the past and what has been universally accepted, ie "public policy" and use it in their rulings. If it has been a common practice in the past, why should State Farm now be able to unilaterally remove coverage?

The engineers tell us that they can "GUARANTEE" (and SF accepts this as gospel) that all of the damages were from flood to allow State Farm to escape from any exposure, so why can't they determine a reaonable wind damage from examining adjacent property? How can they guarantee the dwelling was destroyed by flood and not wind? Was there a wind meter at the dwelling where the loss occurred? Was ther a measuring device at the dwelling for flood levels? Just think about it; why are engineers infalable when their answers are on the side of the carrier and not questioned? The allegations, apparently borne out by actual engineer reports in this instance, are that when the reports support the insured, the carrier has them changed. I have read some of the actual reports and understand why the carriers are being questioned in court. The engineer's work in Katrina was very shoddy. When it helps the carrier the engineer is a hero and makes good money, but when it favors the insured, it is a different story. He is not called back again.

The only place where I ever heard of the valued plicy being wrongly applied was in FLA. It was quickly corrected by the legislature. You should check the valued policy statute in MS and LA as neither has wind as a covered peril for valued policy to kick in. Alabam has no valued policy statute. As far as a recent ruling on Valued Policy on the 5th Circuit, I am not familiar, but I would suggest that if that is the case, it is due to the carrier not proving their case, ie SHODDY ENGINEER REPORTS. If this case originated from Louisiana, they have some strange jurispurdence such as direct action, no full spousal immunity, assumed negligance if the loss eminates from your property and many others.
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To: adjusterjoe RE: Nationwide v. Leonard Mark
Aug 31, 2007, 8:50 am
RE: Pay What is Owed adjusterjoe
Aug 10, 2007, 8:36 am
Pay What is Owed Sam
Aug 10, 2007, 8:05 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 10, 2007, 7:59 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW Mark
Aug 10, 2007, 7:44 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW OMG adjusterjoe's back
Aug 9, 2007, 5:37 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 4:59 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW Mary B.
Aug 9, 2007, 4:32 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW chrome
Aug 9, 2007, 4:16 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 2:17 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 2:06 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW Nobody Important
Aug 9, 2007, 1:33 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 1:30 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 12:52 pm
RE: RE: RE: BTW Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 12:32 pm
RE: RE: BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 12:02 pm
RE: BTW Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 11:50 am
BTW adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 11:08 am
RE: Adjusterjoe adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 10:59 am
re: Adjuster Joe Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 10:31 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 9:43 am
[To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 9, 2007, 9:11 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Sam
Aug 9, 2007, 8:38 am
RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Nobody Important
Aug 9, 2007, 6:58 am
RE: RE: [To Nobody important][Appraiserjoe] chrome
Aug 8, 2007, 11:18 pm
RE: [To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 10:20 pm
[To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 10:16 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Continuation Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 8:38 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 8:34 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Continuation chrome
Aug 8, 2007, 6:32 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 4:25 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 3:45 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 3:40 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 3:11 pm
Glad for concurrent causation State Farm Policyholder
Aug 8, 2007, 2:34 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: [To Nobody important] chrome
Aug 8, 2007, 2:10 pm
RE: RE: RE: kathy - good work Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 1:48 pm
RE: kathy - good work chrome
Aug 8, 2007, 12:30 pm
RE: RE: kathy - good work adjusterjoe
Aug 8, 2007, 12:17 pm
RE: kathy - good work Nobody Important
Aug 8, 2007, 12:00 pm
kathy - good work kathys mom
Aug 8, 2007, 10:35 am
RE: RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? Tapper
Aug 8, 2007, 8:57 am
RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? Anon
Aug 8, 2007, 12:43 am
Where's the news about how terrible we are? Tired like every chrome
Aug 7, 2007, 9:10 pm
RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? chrome
Aug 7, 2007, 9:05 pm
I care, but I am tired! Tired like everyone else
Aug 7, 2007, 6:40 pm
RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? g
Aug 7, 2007, 4:59 pm
RE: RE: RE: Does AnyoneCARE???? Kathy
Aug 7, 2007, 4:53 pm
RE: RE: Re: adjusterjoe adjusterjoe
Aug 7, 2007, 4:31 pm
RE: RE: Re: adjusterjoe Anon
Aug 7, 2007, 4:04 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Where's[In Joe's corner] chrome
Aug 7, 2007, 3:05 pm
RE: Re: adjusterjoe ClaimsGuy
Aug 7, 2007, 3:03 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we a chrome
Aug 7, 2007, 3:01 pm
Wait... no wait... Joe's right. Anon
Aug 7, 2007, 2:51 pm
Re: adjusterjoe concerned agent
Aug 7, 2007, 2:24 pm
RE: RE: Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. Wondering
Aug 7, 2007, 2:00 pm
RE: Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. Mary B.
Aug 7, 2007, 1:44 pm
RE: Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. adjusterjoe
Aug 7, 2007, 1:22 pm
RE: Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. Mark
Aug 7, 2007, 1:17 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? Mark
Aug 7, 2007, 1:14 pm
Adjuster Joe, a legend in his own mind. Been there
Aug 7, 2007, 1:09 pm
RE: RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? adjusterjoe
Aug 7, 2007, 12:10 pm
RE: RE: Does AnyoneCARE???? DWT
Aug 7, 2007, 11:35 am
RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are?
Aug 7, 2007, 11:27 am
RE: Does AnyoneCARE????
Aug 7, 2007, 11:23 am
RE: RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? Anon
Aug 7, 2007, 10:29 am
Does Anyone Know? DWT
Aug 7, 2007, 9:33 am
RE: Where's the news about how terrible we are? adjusterjoe
Aug 7, 2007, 8:59 am
Where's the news about how terrible we are? Anon
Aug 7, 2007, 7:51 am
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