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State Regulators Call for More Study of Credit Scoring Use in Insurance
National News May 28, 2008
State regulators recently told Congress that more study of the use of credit scoring by insurance companies is needed to determine if the practice is unfairly discriminatory.
"As state regulators, ...
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| Subject | Posted By | Posted On |
|---|---|---|
| insurance and credit scores | bob demaro | Jun 3, 2008, 11:20 am |
| RE: The practice should be banned... | llcj | Jun 2, 2008, 2:11 pm |
| RE: RE: The Bottom Line | Dustin | Jun 2, 2008, 6:43 am |
| RE: The Bottom Line | Johnny Boy | May 30, 2008, 4:36 pm |
| The Bottom Line | Dr Fill | May 30, 2008, 4:15 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One | NTXCoog | May 29, 2008, 5:55 pm |
| RE: RE: Insurance vs. Loans | Buckeye | May 29, 2008, 4:15 pm |
| RE: Insurance vs. Loans | Peter Donovan | May 29, 2008, 3:40 pm |
| RE: RE: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One | Johnny boy | May 29, 2008, 3:37 pm |
| The practice should be banned... | Peter Donovan | May 29, 2008, 3:37 pm |
| RE: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One | Rachel | May 29, 2008, 1:42 pm |
| RE: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One | Driving While Female & Black | May 29, 2008, 1:36 pm |
| Six Points on Scoring, Plus One | Bill Rempel | May 29, 2008, 1:13 pm |
| RE: RE: To Buckeye - The issue is about compassion for the p | Eb Hales | May 29, 2008, 12:31 pm |
| RE: To Buckeye - The issue is about compassion for the poor | Buckeye | May 29, 2008, 12:23 pm |
| Other Variables utilizing income | NTXCoog | May 29, 2008, 12:22 pm |
| credit scores | Eb Hales | May 29, 2008, 12:09 pm |
| RE: To Buckeye - The issue is about compassion for the poor | jasper | May 29, 2008, 12:04 pm |
| To Buckeye - The issue is about compassion for the poor | Mike | May 29, 2008, 11:08 am |
| Why scores predict: rate it out yourself | Patrick Butler | May 29, 2008, 10:57 am |
| A little honesty would be nice | Buckeye | May 29, 2008, 10:55 am |
| RE: RE: Credit | Gef | May 29, 2008, 10:36 am |
| RE: Credit "among other factors" | Joe B | May 29, 2008, 10:25 am |
| A good point | Mike | May 29, 2008, 9:28 am |
| an interesting point | caffiend | May 29, 2008, 9:09 am |
| RE: WHAT! | Nobody Important | May 29, 2008, 8:21 am |
| McCarty | Sherry | May 29, 2008, 8:21 am |
| Blame Bush for credit checks and towing uninsured cars. | Rochester | May 29, 2008, 8:08 am |
| WHAT! | Darwin | May 29, 2008, 7:43 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work | Dustin | May 29, 2008, 7:08 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work | frustrated | May 29, 2008, 2:08 am |
| RE: RE: RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work | Gill Fin | May 29, 2008, 1:42 am |
| RE: RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work | frustrated | May 29, 2008, 1:15 am |
| RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work | Gill Fin | May 28, 2008, 7:43 pm |
| RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work | Az Agent | May 28, 2008, 5:07 pm |
| Why credit-based insurance scores work | Patrick Butler | May 28, 2008, 4:19 pm |
| RE: RE: Insurance vs. Loans | Big Country | May 28, 2008, 3:22 pm |
| RE: Insurance vs. Loans | NTXCoog | May 28, 2008, 3:13 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: McCarty | matt | May 28, 2008, 2:43 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: McCarty | matt | May 28, 2008, 2:41 pm |
| govt officials | Chad Balaamaba | May 28, 2008, 2:15 pm |
| Credit Scores and Pricing | Fred Revello | May 28, 2008, 2:12 pm |
| Insurance vs. Loans | Confused | May 28, 2008, 1:17 pm |
| RE: RE: McCarty | Big Country | May 28, 2008, 1:03 pm |
| RE: McCarty | SWFL Mark | May 28, 2008, 12:22 pm |
| McCarty | Big Country | May 28, 2008, 11:28 am |
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Subject: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One
1. The credit report contains information that, even after adjusting for proper rating of traditional risk variables, is useful;
2. We in the industry do a lousy job of properly rating on traditional risk variables;
3. The credit scores marketed by FICO et al are biased by age and income, and like it or not, income in this country is biased by ethnicity, so that bias transfers;
4. The credit reports COULD HAVE BEEN USED to develop algorithms that were simpler, easy to understand, and were free of the income and age biases;
5. The credit reports WEREN'T used to develop said simple algorithms, because simple doesn't sell, and FICO et al want to sell their scoring models! An illusion of superior ability at data mining, gained through the "optics" of high complexity, sells better than providing simple models with open disclosure, even if it really isn't an better in rating;
(and YES, I have seen inside the "black box")
6. We as an industry knotted our own noose by telling the regulators and the public that the (OVERLY COMPLEX) credit-scoring models were "black boxes" that just worked, darnit!, and you don't DESERVE to see what's in 'em! Oh, yeah, THAT was a strategy that endeared itself to public support!
Further, I don't care particularly much if any individual state allows, or doesn't allow, credit information, any more than I care if they allow or don't allow rating on age, driving record, or gender. The fact of the matter is that, as long as all carriers have the same rules to play by in any given state, the winner will be the one who blocks and tackles better than the losers block and tackle, and when rules change, the most adaptable companies will win.