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State Regulators Call for More Study of Credit Scoring Use in Insurance

National News • May 28, 2008
State regulators recently told Congress that more study of the use of credit scoring by insurance companies is needed to determine if the practice is unfairly discriminatory. "As state regulators, ...

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Subject: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One

Posted On: May 29, 2008, 1:13 pm CDT
Posted By: Bill Rempel
Comment:
There is no doubt in my mind of the following:

1. The credit report contains information that, even after adjusting for proper rating of traditional risk variables, is useful;

2. We in the industry do a lousy job of properly rating on traditional risk variables;

3. The credit scores marketed by FICO et al are biased by age and income, and like it or not, income in this country is biased by ethnicity, so that bias transfers;

4. The credit reports COULD HAVE BEEN USED to develop algorithms that were simpler, easy to understand, and were free of the income and age biases;

5. The credit reports WEREN'T used to develop said simple algorithms, because simple doesn't sell, and FICO et al want to sell their scoring models! An illusion of superior ability at data mining, gained through the "optics" of high complexity, sells better than providing simple models with open disclosure, even if it really isn't an better in rating;

(and YES, I have seen inside the "black box")

6. We as an industry knotted our own noose by telling the regulators and the public that the (OVERLY COMPLEX) credit-scoring models were "black boxes" that just worked, darnit!, and you don't DESERVE to see what's in 'em! Oh, yeah, THAT was a strategy that endeared itself to public support!

Further, I don't care particularly much if any individual state allows, or doesn't allow, credit information, any more than I care if they allow or don't allow rating on age, driving record, or gender. The fact of the matter is that, as long as all carriers have the same rules to play by in any given state, the winner will be the one who blocks and tackles better than the losers block and tackle, and when rules change, the most adaptable companies will win.
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insurance and credit scores bob demaro
Jun 3, 2008, 11:20 am
RE: The practice should be banned... llcj
Jun 2, 2008, 2:11 pm
RE: RE: The Bottom Line Dustin
Jun 2, 2008, 6:43 am
RE: The Bottom Line Johnny Boy
May 30, 2008, 4:36 pm
The Bottom Line Dr Fill
May 30, 2008, 4:15 pm
RE: RE: RE: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One NTXCoog
May 29, 2008, 5:55 pm
RE: RE: Insurance vs. Loans Buckeye
May 29, 2008, 4:15 pm
RE: Insurance vs. Loans Peter Donovan
May 29, 2008, 3:40 pm
RE: RE: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One Johnny boy
May 29, 2008, 3:37 pm
The practice should be banned... Peter Donovan
May 29, 2008, 3:37 pm
RE: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One Rachel
May 29, 2008, 1:42 pm
RE: Six Points on Scoring, Plus One Driving While Female & Black
May 29, 2008, 1:36 pm
Six Points on Scoring, Plus One Bill Rempel
May 29, 2008, 1:13 pm
RE: RE: To Buckeye - The issue is about compassion for the p Eb Hales
May 29, 2008, 12:31 pm
RE: To Buckeye - The issue is about compassion for the poor Buckeye
May 29, 2008, 12:23 pm
Other Variables utilizing income NTXCoog
May 29, 2008, 12:22 pm
credit scores Eb Hales
May 29, 2008, 12:09 pm
RE: To Buckeye - The issue is about compassion for the poor jasper
May 29, 2008, 12:04 pm
To Buckeye - The issue is about compassion for the poor Mike
May 29, 2008, 11:08 am
Why scores predict: rate it out yourself Patrick Butler
May 29, 2008, 10:57 am
A little honesty would be nice Buckeye
May 29, 2008, 10:55 am
RE: RE: Credit Gef
May 29, 2008, 10:36 am
RE: Credit "among other factors" Joe B
May 29, 2008, 10:25 am
A good point Mike
May 29, 2008, 9:28 am
an interesting point caffiend
May 29, 2008, 9:09 am
RE: WHAT! Nobody Important
May 29, 2008, 8:21 am
McCarty Sherry
May 29, 2008, 8:21 am
Blame Bush for credit checks and towing uninsured cars. Rochester
May 29, 2008, 8:08 am
WHAT! Darwin
May 29, 2008, 7:43 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work Dustin
May 29, 2008, 7:08 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work frustrated
May 29, 2008, 2:08 am
RE: RE: RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work Gill Fin
May 29, 2008, 1:42 am
RE: RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work frustrated
May 29, 2008, 1:15 am
RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work Gill Fin
May 28, 2008, 7:43 pm
RE: Why credit-based insurance scores work Az Agent
May 28, 2008, 5:07 pm
Why credit-based insurance scores work Patrick Butler
May 28, 2008, 4:19 pm
RE: RE: Insurance vs. Loans Big Country
May 28, 2008, 3:22 pm
RE: Insurance vs. Loans NTXCoog
May 28, 2008, 3:13 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: McCarty matt
May 28, 2008, 2:43 pm
RE: RE: RE: McCarty matt
May 28, 2008, 2:41 pm
govt officials Chad Balaamaba
May 28, 2008, 2:15 pm
Credit Scores and Pricing Fred Revello
May 28, 2008, 2:12 pm
Insurance vs. Loans Confused
May 28, 2008, 1:17 pm
RE: RE: McCarty Big Country
May 28, 2008, 1:03 pm
RE: McCarty SWFL Mark
May 28, 2008, 12:22 pm
McCarty Big Country
May 28, 2008, 11:28 am
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