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AIG Rescue at Hand: Government to Take 80% Stake in Exchange for $85 Billion

National News • September 16, 2008
An $85 billion government rescue of insurer American International Group Inc. looked increasingly likely Tuesday to stave off a bankruptcy that would have thrown world markets back into ...

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Subject: Let's get real - - -OK

Posted On: September 17, 2008, 3:58 pm CDT
Posted By: Mike
Comment:
The financial meltdown on Wall Street is more than a cyclic correction brought on by a mismanaged business cycle. It is emblematic of a problem at the very foundation of the right wing economic philosophy that became conventional wisdom during the Bush years -- and would be continued in a McCain presidency.

The zealots of unfettered "free markets" cast aside the critical lesson that the world learned during the Great Depression: left to their own devices, unregulated financial markets do not necessarily function to benefit the society as a whole -- or, in the end, even many individual market participants.

The fundamental premise of right-wing economics is the incorrect view that if every market actor pursues his own economic interest, the "invisible hand" of the market place will assure that the "common good" results. But of course, common sense tells us that is not always true. Two quick examples:

The first is referred to as the "tragedy of the commons." Suppose an island nation depends on the fishing harvests from the surrounding sea for its livelihood. It would obviously be in the interest of the community never to take more fish from the sea than can be replenished through the reproduction of fish. That way, everyone on the island will continue to have fish for the long haul.

But it is in the interest of each individual fisherman to catch as many fish as he can. This is especially true if the fish stocks grow scarcer. To continue to have enough fish for himself and his family, each fisherman competes more and more vigorously for the remaining fish. In the end, this behavior will assure that the fish supply is depleted, and that no one has any fish.

In this situation, if everyone pursues his own individual interest, the common good is not served. But if everyone looks out for each other, and recognizes that all have a common group interest, they will manage the fish resource to assure a self-sustaining fish supply that can feed everyone for years to come.

The other example is the classic case of economic recession. In a recession, it is in each economic actor's self-interest to increase his savings and cut spending, since the recession threatens his income. But by each pursuing his own individual interest, all of the actors together reduce the economy's overall spending. And that deepens the recession. If, on the other hand, the entire group of economic actors works through its government to increase national spending and reduce overall savings, it will stimulate the economy and the recession will end -- benefiting everyone.

The American mortgage market now provides us with another clear example of how this fundamental premise of right-wing economic thought is dead wrong.
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To Mike, we are in agreement... Free Market
Sep 22, 2008, 11:08 am
The REAL WORLD.........To Free Market Mike
Sep 22, 2008, 9:18 am
RE: The REAL WORLD......... Free Market
Sep 19, 2008, 4:27 pm
RE: The REAL WORLD......... Free Market
Sep 19, 2008, 3:52 pm
RE: RE: RE: The REAL WORLD......... Peon...
Sep 18, 2008, 9:37 pm
RE: RE: The REAL WORLD......... Sorry Peon...
Sep 18, 2008, 7:00 pm
RE: RE: RE: The REAL WORLD......... Peon...
Sep 18, 2008, 5:30 pm
RE: RE: The REAL WORLD......... Mike
Sep 18, 2008, 3:57 pm
RE: The REAL WORLD......... Peon...
Sep 18, 2008, 3:46 pm
RE: The REAL WORLD......... Joe Mama
Sep 18, 2008, 12:40 pm
The REAL WORLD......... Mike
Sep 18, 2008, 10:57 am
RE: Who Is to Blame? - Amen Peon Agent
Sep 18, 2008, 10:50 am
RE: RE: RE: The REAL WORLD......... Peon Agent
Sep 18, 2008, 10:47 am
Who Is to Blame? FOWIF
Sep 18, 2008, 9:39 am
RE: RE: RE: The REAL WORLD......... Joe Mama
Sep 18, 2008, 8:25 am
RE: RE: The REAL WORLD......... Mike
Sep 18, 2008, 8:09 am
RE: The REAL WORLD......... Joe Mama
Sep 18, 2008, 8:00 am
The REAL WORLD......... Mike
Sep 18, 2008, 7:46 am
RE: Let's get real - - -OK Free Market
Sep 17, 2008, 7:55 pm
RE: RE: Let's get real - - -OK Peon Agent - Again
Sep 17, 2008, 6:44 pm
RE: RE: Let's get real - - -OK Peon Agent - Smiling
Sep 17, 2008, 6:42 pm
RE: Let's get optimistic Peon Agent
Sep 17, 2008, 6:27 pm
RE: It's a 24 month loan... Peon Agent
Sep 17, 2008, 6:21 pm
RE: QBE & IAG Cincy Agent
Sep 17, 2008, 5:34 pm
Fed Gov't and Forced Regulation... Vlad
Sep 17, 2008, 5:11 pm
RE: RE: Let's get real - - -OK Pirlk Pigler
Sep 17, 2008, 4:57 pm
RE: Let's get real - - -OK Pirk Pigler
Sep 17, 2008, 4:54 pm
RE: Let's get real - - -OK DDD
Sep 17, 2008, 4:41 pm
RE: Let's get real - - -OK Pirk Pigler
Sep 17, 2008, 4:29 pm
Let's get real - - -OK Mike
Sep 17, 2008, 3:58 pm
RE: RE: RE: Let's get real Peon Agent
Sep 17, 2008, 3:34 pm
Mongoose Reply RayGunZap
Sep 17, 2008, 3:14 pm
RE: Senseless Rants Joe Mama
Sep 17, 2008, 3:02 pm
Look on the bright side case
Sep 17, 2008, 2:53 pm
RE: Senseless Rants susp
Sep 17, 2008, 2:48 pm
Senseless Rants Pirk Pigler
Sep 17, 2008, 2:32 pm
RE: RE: Republicans beginning to see the light Liberal
Sep 17, 2008, 2:19 pm
Illuminati Plan...... .....
Sep 17, 2008, 1:54 pm
QBE & IAG Aussies are safe
Sep 17, 2008, 1:52 pm
BOD Bang
Sep 17, 2008, 12:44 pm
RE: Let's get optimistic Jones
Sep 17, 2008, 12:32 pm
Old AIG employee Mongoose
Sep 17, 2008, 12:32 pm
Let's get optimistic SFOInsuranceLady
Sep 17, 2008, 12:25 pm
It's a 24 month loan... Tom Harvey
Sep 17, 2008, 12:21 pm
RE: RE: RE: Let's get real an old AIG employee
Sep 17, 2008, 12:14 pm
RE: RE: Blame Bush - Ok I will glenn
Sep 17, 2008, 12:08 pm
RE: Who's out at AIG Mongoose
Sep 17, 2008, 12:03 pm
Who's out at AIG Curious
Sep 17, 2008, 12:00 pm
RE: RE: Let's get real Mongoose
Sep 17, 2008, 11:53 am
RE: RE: Republicans beginning to see the light Sanford Plumlee
Sep 17, 2008, 11:43 am
RE: Republicans beginning to see the light Dwolf
Sep 17, 2008, 11:23 am
RE: Let's get real Johnny O.
Sep 17, 2008, 11:22 am
Republicans beginning to see the light No More Bush
Sep 17, 2008, 11:19 am
RE:Sorry this is so long but.... Dwolf
Sep 17, 2008, 10:55 am
Blue Ribbon Commission Disgusted American
Sep 17, 2008, 10:54 am
Ron Paul was right case
Sep 17, 2008, 10:53 am
RE: Let's get real Peon Agent
Sep 17, 2008, 10:49 am
an old quote an old AIG employee
Sep 17, 2008, 10:49 am
Just A While Ago... RayGunZap
Sep 17, 2008, 10:44 am
RE: RE: Just Remember Gut45
Sep 17, 2008, 10:43 am
RE: Just Remember Olstallcleaner
Sep 17, 2008, 10:33 am
Bush's MBA Scoobeedoobeedo
Sep 17, 2008, 10:26 am
I'm So Glad Some Ol' Hick
Sep 17, 2008, 10:12 am
RE: RE: who profits Joe Mama
Sep 17, 2008, 10:05 am
RE: RE: Blame Bush - Ok I will Capitalist
Sep 17, 2008, 10:03 am
RE: Blame Bush - Ok I will Mike
Sep 17, 2008, 9:50 am
RE: Blame Bush cletus
Sep 17, 2008, 9:48 am
Blame Bush FOWIF
Sep 17, 2008, 9:43 am
Suspend New Biz Writing Katherine
Sep 17, 2008, 9:42 am
RE: RE: AIG Bailout Capitalist
Sep 17, 2008, 9:35 am
RE: Who makes the decision? The Answer Man
Sep 17, 2008, 9:19 am
RE: Who makes the decision? Henry
Sep 17, 2008, 9:19 am
Who makes the decision? Wants to know
Sep 17, 2008, 9:17 am
RE: who profits Average Man on the Street
Sep 17, 2008, 9:07 am
RE: who profits All Powerful Zeus
Sep 17, 2008, 8:58 am
RE: who profits matt
Sep 17, 2008, 8:54 am
who profits LG
Sep 17, 2008, 8:51 am
RE: B.S. is Right! Jean
Sep 17, 2008, 8:09 am
RE: RE: Let's get real Bob
Sep 17, 2008, 8:09 am
RE: Let's get real Bob
Sep 17, 2008, 8:07 am
AIG- this is not a simple fender bender issue.. VA
Sep 17, 2008, 7:50 am
Mongoose Mark
Sep 17, 2008, 7:20 am
Still an "A" Rated carrier David
Sep 17, 2008, 7:16 am
RE: Let's get real an old AIG employee
Sep 17, 2008, 7:13 am
RE: RE: RE: B.S. is Right! an old AIG Employee
Sep 17, 2008, 7:09 am
Greed wins the day....and again general lee
Sep 17, 2008, 7:05 am
RE: RE: B.S. is Right! Chuck
Sep 17, 2008, 6:56 am
RE: B.S. is Right! an old AIG employee
Sep 17, 2008, 6:53 am
Let's get real Mongoose
Sep 17, 2008, 6:51 am
Hank Greenberg looks like the Grinch Jane Logan
Sep 17, 2008, 6:21 am
RE: AIG rescue. Eddie
Sep 17, 2008, 5:14 am
B.S. is Right! 2lanelover
Sep 17, 2008, 4:58 am
RE: Insurance makes or breaks the economy Bob
Sep 17, 2008, 4:37 am
Insurance makes or breaks the economy Jane
Sep 17, 2008, 4:29 am
This is such B.S. Mark
Sep 17, 2008, 2:23 am
What about P&C Ops? gabe
Sep 16, 2008, 8:48 pm
Wow. Ed
Sep 16, 2008, 8:41 pm
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