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Insurance Producers Start to Move Business from AIG to Competitors

National News • September 22, 2008
Despite assurance from state regulators that the insurance subsidiaries of American International Group (AIG) are financially sound, insurance producers are moving accounts from AIG. A survey by ...

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Subject: RE: RE: What happens if they lose business

Posted On: September 29, 2008, 1:47 pm CDT
Posted By: Barry
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A good stream of opinions on the topic. I have looked at this issue hard on behalf of my business and clients. If you look at AIG's financial statements, you realize AIG is truly a remarkable company with over $1 trillion in assets (good long-term assets) and operating internationally in over 130 countries, well beyond their next largest competitor. They are a unique machine built by Hank with momentum up until recently. AIG parent is short-term cash strapped, not insolvent (FAR from it). Remember, AIG invested in relatively secure mortage-backed derivatives, just like most financial companies. These were not junk bonds. Traders stopped buying these instruments a year ago due to default rates. As such, AIG is having big (paper loss) write downs due to GAAP accounting rules which is finally taking a toll on their short-term cash-position. They may get to write alot of this back into their results if the derivatives market comes back from $0 in the next year or so. US economy (specifically mortgage defaults) are driving this issue. Without the ability to sell these derivatives and the price of stocks/bonds going down, they need short-term cash in a hurry and don't want a fire sale of good assets to get it. AIG is a good company with great underwriting (Commercial ins. at 93 combined ratio). The $85 billion is a line of credit to allow AIG time to properly get the best price for their asset sale (2 years total), so no fire sale needed. If you truly think the government is running and dictating AIG assets for sale (and wants to own/run it), then I can't help your logic. AIG is no typical P&C company (look at their annual statements). If AIG defaults after 2 years, then yes, we own what's left. However, with $1T in good assets and very profitable insurance operations (for the most part), if they can't ante up what they borrow against the $85B, I would be absolutely shocked. Bottomline, I need AIG for what they can do in the marketplace, and AIG needs me to not be reactionary right now. It is far too early to start moving business when there is no immediate need to do so. You have time to see how things turn out and decisions to be made/announced by AIG in the coming month or two. Don't be another knee-jerk reaction to sensational news without a proper understanding of what AIG brings and can bring to the table going-forward. DO your own research from AIG's own filed documents. My opinion.
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RE: I would be careful being so uneducated Fred
Mar 24, 2009, 10:27 am
RE: RE: What happens if they lose business Barry
Sep 29, 2008, 1:47 pm
RE: What happens if they lose business "Biggy" Johnson
Sep 29, 2008, 9:59 am
What happens if they lose business David Johnston
Sep 23, 2008, 6:53 pm
Uncertain Times Concerned
Sep 23, 2008, 7:09 am
RE: The First 6 Comments Must Be AIG Employees milo
Sep 23, 2008, 5:12 am
If you're smart. Get Smart
Sep 22, 2008, 7:27 pm
RE: I would be careful being so loyal Ken
Sep 22, 2008, 6:08 pm
The First 6 Comments Must Be AIG Employees Steve
Sep 22, 2008, 4:53 pm
I would be careful being so loyal AZInsMan
Sep 22, 2008, 4:05 pm
RE: RE: RE: Partner Also Not Asleep
Sep 22, 2008, 3:58 pm
Maybe lowest big won't win Zambendorf
Sep 22, 2008, 3:54 pm
IOUSA Big Fish
Sep 22, 2008, 3:15 pm
RE: RE: Partner Not Asleep
Sep 22, 2008, 2:59 pm
RE: Partner mike
Sep 22, 2008, 2:45 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: Partner Kay
Sep 22, 2008, 2:29 pm
RE: RE: RE: Partner Sticker Shock
Sep 22, 2008, 1:39 pm
RE: RE: Partner Friends
Sep 22, 2008, 12:57 pm
RE: RE: Partner Oprah
Sep 22, 2008, 12:56 pm
RE: Partner IBK
Sep 22, 2008, 12:51 pm
RE: Partner Ted
Sep 22, 2008, 12:41 pm
Partner Client Advocate
Sep 22, 2008, 12:27 pm
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