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Insiders Say AIG Slashing Prices to Win Business in Moves That May Burn Rivals, Taxpayers

National News • December 11, 2008
American International Group Inc. is cutting prices to win new business and boost market share, competitors and others in the industry say, but taxpayers could again be stuck with the tab. Since a ...

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Subject: AIG Liquidation Pricing triggers the fall of Capitalism

Posted On: December 13, 2008, 7:57 am CST
Posted By: A I Gone
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Virtually everyone in an agency or company that competes against AIG can give concrete examples of accounts that AIG priced below the competition in the last 90 days. Yes, they are protecting their renewals with pricing well below the market, but even worse, they are pricing new business well below common sense pricing. They win very little of this business. They just force the incumbent agent to convince the incumbent carrier or a new carrier to price the business at close to the same level as AIG and then sell their client on why it wouldn't be prudent to go with AIG. So AIG starts the death spiral with ridiculous pricing void of any actuarial validity and the lemmings in the market follow to protect their in force book. It's a beautiful thing. This should hastent the next hard market in a time when our economy cannot handle it. Historians, at least insurance historians, will look at the AIG debacle of 2008 as one of the triggers that led to the fall of capitalism as we knew it. I start Chinese lessons tomorrow. I want to be able to say "yes sir" in the language of the new owners of our country.
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RE: Takin it again Ratemaker
Dec 15, 2008, 1:27 pm
Takin it again JOE Tax payer
Dec 15, 2008, 9:51 am
RE: I'm with Propaganda on this one Opserver
Dec 14, 2008, 5:57 am
Capitalism-common sense economy cannot handle it
Dec 13, 2008, 3:59 pm
AIG Liquidation Pricing triggers the fall of Capitalism A I Gone
Dec 13, 2008, 7:57 am
RE: I'm with Propaganda on this one Mary
Dec 12, 2008, 4:37 pm
RE: LEX actuary
Dec 12, 2008, 4:18 pm
RE: RE: LEX ...Pistol Pete actuary
Dec 12, 2008, 4:14 pm
RE: LEX David Larson
Dec 12, 2008, 2:21 pm
RE: RE: Insurance Industy is Corrupt! Ralph
Dec 12, 2008, 2:19 pm
RE: Insurance Industy is Corrupt! A Broker
Dec 12, 2008, 2:06 pm
RE: LEX JD
Dec 12, 2008, 1:41 pm
LEX Peter Polstein
Dec 12, 2008, 12:43 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: AIG Quote Publius
Dec 12, 2008, 12:11 pm
And who's getting the commision bonus this time? anon the mouse
Dec 12, 2008, 12:07 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: AIG Quote Disappointed
Dec 12, 2008, 11:05 am
Insurance industry = corruption Chicago Politician
Dec 12, 2008, 10:56 am
RE: RE: Lex actuary
Dec 12, 2008, 10:36 am
RE: RE: Ins depts...A.M.BEST...Auditors Ratemaker
Dec 12, 2008, 9:41 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: AIG Quote nobody important
Dec 12, 2008, 9:24 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: AIG Quote JD
Dec 12, 2008, 8:45 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: AIG Quote matt
Dec 12, 2008, 8:19 am
Shameful Amazed
Dec 12, 2008, 8:13 am
RE: RE: Lex WCAgent
Dec 12, 2008, 8:03 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: AIG Quote John
Dec 12, 2008, 8:03 am
RE: RE: RE: AIG Quote A REAL Underwriter
Dec 12, 2008, 7:50 am
RE: Lex Peter Polstein
Dec 12, 2008, 6:49 am
Lex actuary
Dec 11, 2008, 6:29 pm
RE: Insurance Industy is Corrupt! An underwriter
Dec 11, 2008, 6:00 pm
RE: RE: AIG Quote An underwriter
Dec 11, 2008, 5:44 pm
Insurance Industy is Corrupt! Chicago Politician
Dec 11, 2008, 5:27 pm
I'm with Propaganda on this one Chicago Risk Manager
Dec 11, 2008, 4:31 pm
RE: RE: AIG Quote IJ Staff
Dec 11, 2008, 3:54 pm
RE: AIG Quote an underwriter
Dec 11, 2008, 3:44 pm
AIG Quote Mark S
Dec 11, 2008, 3:39 pm
RE: Liberty Rating Downgrade JD
Dec 11, 2008, 3:38 pm
Liberty Rating Downgrade Industry Observer
Dec 11, 2008, 3:35 pm
No more Bailouts Kent
Dec 11, 2008, 3:22 pm
RE: RE: RE: Liberty is the worst at giving away accounts on New York Agent
Dec 11, 2008, 3:16 pm
RE: Ins depts...A.M.BEST...Auditors Vanessa
Dec 11, 2008, 3:05 pm
RE: RE: AIG Pricing JD
Dec 11, 2008, 2:21 pm
RE: RE: Liberty is the worst at giving away accounts on pric Validator
Dec 11, 2008, 2:20 pm
RE: AIG Pricing DJS
Dec 11, 2008, 2:02 pm
Ins depts...A.M.BEST...Auditors I want to know
Dec 11, 2008, 1:36 pm
RE: Oh, a model. I feel better then. Stats Person
Dec 11, 2008, 1:24 pm
To the few that said we should bail out AIG Baxtor
Dec 11, 2008, 1:22 pm
An answer to 'Question' David
Dec 11, 2008, 1:16 pm
Who are the Reponsible Insurers? Curious George
Dec 11, 2008, 1:16 pm
RE: Liberty is the worst at giving away accounts on price Mike
Dec 11, 2008, 1:15 pm
Liberty is the worst at giving away accounts on price New York Agent
Dec 11, 2008, 1:11 pm
RE: Propaganda Peter Polstein
Dec 11, 2008, 12:59 pm
Buying Decisions David
Dec 11, 2008, 12:52 pm
Oh, a model. I feel better then. Pat Beranger
Dec 11, 2008, 12:50 pm
who else was slashing prices? susan salas
Dec 11, 2008, 12:47 pm
RE: RE: Propaganda from Liberty (of all people) Donna Towson
Dec 11, 2008, 12:35 pm
The Truth Hurts Indy
Dec 11, 2008, 12:33 pm
RE: Stale. Vanessa
Dec 11, 2008, 12:28 pm
Propaganda Long Time Broker
Dec 11, 2008, 12:28 pm
Question American Taxpayor
Dec 11, 2008, 12:25 pm
Competition Seen It
Dec 11, 2008, 11:39 am
RE: Propaganda Cassandra
Dec 11, 2008, 11:37 am
RE: Propaganda Left around to the Right
Dec 11, 2008, 11:22 am
Stale. Eric B
Dec 11, 2008, 11:22 am
Propaganda John W.
Dec 11, 2008, 9:56 am
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