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FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowners Insurance Pricing
National News December 23, 2008
U.S. regulators have asked nine major insurance companies, including Allstate Corp. and Travelers Cos. Inc., to provide information about how they set prices for homeowners' coverage, the Federal ...
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| RE: : listen | nobody important | Jan 14, 2009, 2:32 pm |
| : listen | integrity | Jan 14, 2009, 8:54 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: listen to an industry giant! | nobody important | Jan 12, 2009, 1:13 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: listen to an industry giant! | practices ranked worse | Jan 9, 2009, 11:09 am |
| RE: RE: RE: listen to an industry giant! | nobody important | Jan 9, 2009, 9:49 am |
| RE: RE: listen to an industry giant! | U.S. regulators have | Jan 7, 2009, 11:41 pm |
| RE: listen to an industry giant! | Brokette | Jan 7, 2009, 9:55 am |
| listen to an industry giant! | Interesting Brokette! | Jan 6, 2009, 11:27 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | Brokette | Jan 6, 2009, 11:55 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | LOOSE ENDS | Jan 6, 2009, 10:22 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | nobody important | Jan 6, 2009, 10:19 am |
| RE: RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | Brokette | Jan 6, 2009, 10:00 am |
| RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | Run along, now. | Jan 6, 2009, 9:45 am |
| RE: : It doesn't even come close . | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 11:17 pm |
| : It doesn't even come close . | even come close to costing | Jan 5, 2009, 6:57 pm |
| RE: RE: It doesn't even come close to costing what an ad wou | board with the picture. | Jan 5, 2009, 6:54 pm |
| RE: It doesn't even come close to costing what an ad would c | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 6:01 pm |
| It doesn't even come close to costing what an ad would cost | State Farm buys ad time during | Jan 5, 2009, 5:50 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: | nobody important | Jan 5, 2009, 12:49 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 12:42 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: | nobody important | Jan 5, 2009, 12:21 pm |
| RE: RE: | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 11:38 am |
| RE: | nobody important | Jan 5, 2009, 11:18 am |
| "Is it privileged?" | WE ALL WANT TO BELIEVE IN COMP | Jan 5, 2009, 10:37 am |
| RE: RE: RE: new policy forms -1000 feet across the road . | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 9:35 am |
| RE: RE: new policy forms -1000 feet across the road . | State Farm projects | Jan 4, 2009, 10:39 pm |
| RE: new policy forms -1000 feet across the road . | Brokette | Jan 4, 2009, 10:28 pm |
| new policy forms -1000 feet across the road . | Burden of Proof | Jan 4, 2009, 7:54 pm |
| RE: RE: Discover the power of knowledge | knowledge | Jan 4, 2009, 7:23 pm |
| RE: Discover the power of knowledge | does not go high enough. | Jan 4, 2009, 7:21 pm |
| Discover the power of knowledge | would not tell the attorney wh | Jan 4, 2009, 7:14 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: we should all be adults-nation's worst | Brokette | Jan 4, 2009, 3:59 pm |
| RE: RE: we should all be adults-nation's worst | Nobler purpose | Jan 4, 2009, 2:56 pm |
| RE: we should all be adults | Nobler purpose | Jan 4, 2009, 2:48 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: in their investigation of claims. | Brokette | Jan 4, 2009, 1:17 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: in their investigation of claims. | That is just penny wise and po | Jan 4, 2009, 11:47 am |
| RE: RE: in their investigation of claims. | Brokette | Jan 4, 2009, 10:10 am |
| RE: in their investigation of claims. | insurance industry , hard look | Jan 4, 2009, 7:30 am |
| adults.RIGHT. | battled for eight years to | Jan 4, 2009, 6:53 am |
| in their investigation of claims. You might think this is j | investigation of claims | Jan 4, 2009, 6:37 am |
| RE: RE: we should all be adults | Brokette | Jan 3, 2009, 10:33 pm |
| RE: we should all be adults | Pay more attention. | Jan 3, 2009, 9:05 pm |
| RE: choice - EXPERIENCE | Brokette | Jan 3, 2009, 5:38 pm |
| RE: RE: choice - IT,S A MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE EXPERIENCE | - IT,S A MESSAGE | Jan 2, 2009, 9:29 pm |
| RE: choice - IT,S A MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE EXPERIENCE | read one more time | Jan 2, 2009, 9:02 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring and Insurance | completely irritated | Jan 2, 2009, 6:57 pm |
| RE: To: Greg - Dec 29 12:59 PM | FL vs FA | Jan 2, 2009, 6:43 pm |
| choice - EXPERIENCE | IT,S A MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE | Jan 2, 2009, 11:29 am |
| RE: RE: RE: : @companies ask choice point | Brokette | Jan 2, 2009, 9:38 am |
| RE: RE: : @companies ask choice point | I will cast my lot! | Jan 1, 2009, 2:11 pm |
| RE: : @companies ask choice point | Brokette | Jan 1, 2009, 11:21 am |
| : @companies ask choice point | professionals | Jan 1, 2009, 8:10 am |
| RE: about the rights of the policyholders | nobody important | Dec 31, 2008, 9:33 pm |
| : we should > Talkback-government bailout | AND YOU ALL WANTED JOE | Dec 31, 2008, 7:30 pm |
| RE: about the rights of the policyholders | LOUD NOISES | Dec 31, 2008, 4:43 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | Brokette | Dec 31, 2008, 12:38 pm |
| RE: we should all be adults | try cutting and paste this in | Dec 31, 2008, 10:11 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | nobody important Dec 31, 2008, | Dec 31, 2008, 10:05 am |
| about the rights of the policyholders | nobody important | Dec 31, 2008, 10:01 am |
| RE: RE: RE: a tool-WHAT PART TO YOU ALL NOT GET? | SAY I CAN | Dec 31, 2008, 9:58 am |
| RE: RE: a tool-WHAT PART TO YOU ALL NOT GET? | notthing about this HUH!!! | Dec 31, 2008, 9:55 am |
| RE: RE: o-with little federal oversight | Buckeye | Dec 31, 2008, 9:38 am |
| RE: o-with little federal oversight | Brokette | Dec 30, 2008, 9:30 pm |
| o-with little federal oversight | federal oversight. | Dec 30, 2008, 8:29 pm |
| RE: a tool | LOOK IT UP- | Dec 30, 2008, 3:44 pm |
| RE: no right to information about an investigation | class of business.- | Dec 30, 2008, 3:42 pm |
| RE: W -see court records and evidence in a consumer fraud ca | keep secret | Dec 30, 2008, 3:38 pm |
| W -see court records and evidence in a consumer fraud case t | misconduct. | Dec 30, 2008, 3:33 pm |
| RE: To: Greg - Dec 29 12:59 PM | Greg | Dec 30, 2008, 3:03 pm |
| RE: RE: What are predictive models? | Buckeye | Dec 30, 2008, 2:51 pm |
| RE: What are predictive models? | nobody important | Dec 30, 2008, 2:43 pm |
| What are predictive models? | Buckeye | Dec 30, 2008, 2:14 pm |
| RE: To: Greg - Dec 29 12:59 PM | nobody important | Dec 30, 2008, 1:23 pm |
| To: Greg - Dec 29 12:59 PM | Lame Brain | Dec 30, 2008, 12:34 pm |
| Discussion thread? | Buckeye | Dec 30, 2008, 11:39 am |
| RE: haha - illiterate fool - Leave the country | nobody important | Dec 30, 2008, 11:32 am |
| haha - illiterate fool - Leave the country | Mark | Dec 30, 2008, 10:23 am |
| RE: IN SALT-LAKE | nobody important | Dec 30, 2008, 10:22 am |
| IN SALT-LAKE | former in-house | Dec 30, 2008, 10:16 am |
| RE: RE: RE: IQ Chief -WE CAN MAKE LAWS WORK FOR US BECAUSE W | MAKE LAWS WORK FOR | Dec 30, 2008, 10:09 am |
| RE: RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | Brokette | Dec 30, 2008, 10:06 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive - IS THAT SO BILL]. | Don Quixote | Dec 30, 2008, 10:02 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive - IS THAT SO BILL]. | Jake | Dec 30, 2008, 10:01 am |
| RE: IQ Chief Executive - IS THAT SO BILL]. | !A HAVE DONE NOTHING ABOUT ! | Dec 30, 2008, 9:55 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive | on their financial strength | Dec 30, 2008, 9:33 am |
| IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | Bill | Dec 30, 2008, 9:33 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | Two former in-house attorneys | Dec 30, 2008, 9:22 am |
| Loud Noises | Buckeye | Dec 30, 2008, 7:31 am |
| not criminals - just a idiots in the insurance | Dec 29, 2008, 8:56 pm |
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| RE: to: greg | ANGER | Dec 29, 2008, 6:51 pm |
| RE: RE: - Its pretty simple They are not criminals - just a | loco in la cabesa | Dec 29, 2008, 6:35 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: from a great book!! | Dec 29, 2008, 6:16 pm |
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| RE: RE: RE: to: greg | insguru | Dec 29, 2008, 6:05 pm |
| RE: yourself about a subject.-thats the only way | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 3:38 pm |
| yourself about a subject.-thats the only way | Dec 29, 2008, 3:10 pm |
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| RE: you would not known the court has all of this..... | watching these tapes | Dec 29, 2008, 3:07 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Nobody important is nobody smart | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 2:44 pm |
| RE: RE: Nobody important is nobody smart | Delicious Pastries | Dec 29, 2008, 2:32 pm |
| RE: Nobody important is nobody smart | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 1:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: to: greg | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 1:22 pm |
| RE: RE: from a great book!! | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 1:19 pm |
| RE: from a great book!! | privileged?" | Dec 29, 2008, 1:09 pm |
| RE: RE: To: Lame Brain | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 12:59 pm |
| Nobody Important and Lame Brain | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 12:55 pm |
| from a great book!! | Dec 29, 2008, 12:51 pm |
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| to: brokette | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 12:29 pm |
| Nobody important is nobody smart | Darren | Dec 29, 2008, 12:26 pm |
| RE: RE: to: greg | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 12:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: IQ rather than Credit - Correction | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 12:16 pm |
| RE: RE: to: greg | Brokette | Dec 29, 2008, 12:15 pm |
| RE: to: greg | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 12:11 pm |
| RE: RE: IQ rather than Credit | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 12:10 pm |
| RE: To: Lame Brain | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 12:10 pm |
| to: greg | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 11:57 am |
| To: Lame Brain | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 11:48 am |
| RE: IQ rather than Credit | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 11:22 am |
| RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | have them complete IQ tests | Dec 29, 2008, 10:43 am |
| IQ rather than Credit | Interesting Study | Dec 29, 2008, 10:41 am |
| Scoring - Insuranceblame the govt and the banks. | THE BIG CEO$$$ | Dec 29, 2008, 10:39 am |
| RE: Credit Scoring and Insurance | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 10:29 am |
| government to help it remain in business. | loans | Dec 29, 2008, 10:20 am |
| Credit Scoring and Insurance | Average consumer | Dec 29, 2008, 10:15 am |
| no right to information about an investigation | policyholders have no right ,S | Dec 29, 2008, 9:47 am |
| RE: To: National News • December 23, 2 | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 9:39 am |
| RE: a tool | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 9:38 am |
| To: National News • December 23, 2 | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 9:37 am |
| a tool | for Brokette | Dec 29, 2008, 9:32 am |
| Hey Einstein | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 9:28 am |
| Remeber the hey days | One | Dec 29, 2008, 9:23 am |
| repeal insurers anti trust exemption | Fair Game | Dec 29, 2008, 9:18 am |
| RE: RE: Abe 3:06 | Brokette | Dec 29, 2008, 9:17 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Jr. said | Dec 29, 2008, 9:15 am |
| RE: - Its pretty simple They are not criminals - just a lit | Hope | Dec 29, 2008, 8:58 am |
| RE: Abe 3:06 | cheli | Dec 29, 2008, 8:03 am |
| RE: CHELI 2:47 | cheli | Dec 29, 2008, 7:59 am |
| we should all be adults | Pay more attention | Dec 29, 2008, 2:17 am |
| - Its pretty simple They are not criminals - just a little | Here is something I know | Dec 29, 2008, 1:47 am |
| RE: RE: RE: TO Confidence led upright. You believed in honor | experience says - - - | Dec 29, 2008, 1:18 am |
| RE: RE: TO Confidence led upright. You believed in honor, an | Peon Agent | Dec 28, 2008, 9:14 pm |
| RE: TO Confidence led upright. You believed in honor, and th | MELANIE | Dec 28, 2008, 7:56 pm |
| TO BOB KOCHAN. | from ' Randy DOWN | Dec 28, 2008, 7:51 pm |
| RE: Interesting......point | non-regulated world. | Dec 28, 2008, 5:49 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use f | Einstein | Dec 28, 2008, 10:29 am |
| RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specifically | National News • December 23, 2 | Dec 27, 2008, 9:00 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them | On The Fox | Dec 27, 2008, 8:50 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them spec | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 3:47 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 3:46 pm |
| RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specific | nobody important | Dec 27, 2008, 3:24 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for t | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 3:09 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them | Peon Agent | Dec 27, 2008, 1:31 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them spec | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 12:24 pm |
| RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specific | let me help you. | Dec 27, 2008, 10:23 am |
| RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specific | point | Dec 27, 2008, 10:21 am |
| RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specifically | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 9:43 am |
| @companies ask choice point to use for them specifically. | Melanie | Dec 26, 2008, 8:59 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | insguru | Dec 26, 2008, 7:16 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowner | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 2:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 1:54 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowner | SWFL Agent | Dec 26, 2008, 1:50 pm |
| RE: RE: FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowners In | InsIsMyPassion | Dec 26, 2008, 12:00 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | No Way | Dec 26, 2008, 11:36 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 10:29 am |
| RE: FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowners Insura | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 10:25 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | RateAdequacy | Dec 26, 2008, 10:19 am |
| RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 9:36 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Santa Clause | Dec 24, 2008, 2:34 pm |
| RE: RE: To Old Ins Guy & Peon Agent | Brokette | Dec 24, 2008, 11:41 am |
| RE: To Old Ins Guy & Peon Agent | Peon Agent | Dec 24, 2008, 11:30 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Peon Agent | Dec 24, 2008, 11:27 am |
| To Old Ins Guy & Peon Agent | Brokette | Dec 24, 2008, 11:21 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Actuary | Dec 24, 2008, 10:59 am |
| RE: RE: Auto Notification - Mike & Jake | Peon Agent | Dec 24, 2008, 10:35 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | staffman | Dec 24, 2008, 10:31 am |
| RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Mike | Dec 24, 2008, 10:26 am |
| RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | staffman | Dec 24, 2008, 10:19 am |
| RE: RE: Auto Notification - Mike & Jake | Old Ins Guy | Dec 24, 2008, 10:06 am |
| RE: Auto Notification - Mike & Jake | Brokette | Dec 24, 2008, 10:02 am |
| RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple - Idiot!!!! | Ralph | Dec 24, 2008, 9:33 am |
| RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Bob | Dec 24, 2008, 9:25 am |
| staffman - Its pretty simple | Mike | Dec 24, 2008, 9:23 am |
| Income issue | staffman | Dec 24, 2008, 9:14 am |
| RE: Auto Notification | Jake | Dec 24, 2008, 9:13 am |
| Auto Notification | Mike | Dec 24, 2008, 9:12 am |
| RE: RE: RE: Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Juliet | Dec 24, 2008, 9:10 am |
| RE: RE: Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Obama Gurl | Dec 24, 2008, 8:52 am |
| RE: Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Obama Gurl | Dec 24, 2008, 7:54 am |
| Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Democratic Logic | Dec 24, 2008, 7:43 am |
| RE: RE: Why I do not accept the - Dar 6:23 | nobody important | Dec 24, 2008, 7:04 am |
| To please......please!! | Buckeye | Dec 24, 2008, 6:15 am |
| RE: RE: Why I do not accept the - Dar 6:23 | EGoyle | Dec 23, 2008, 9:03 pm |
| RE: Why I do not accept the - Dar 6:23 | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 6:50 pm |
| Why I do not accept the "Credit Scoring" studies | DarNovak | Dec 23, 2008, 6:23 pm |
| RE: Why I do not accept | EGoyle | Dec 23, 2008, 6:08 pm |
| Why I do not accept "Ccredit Scoring" | DarNovak | Dec 23, 2008, 5:53 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me - Mike 3:50 | Seriously | Dec 23, 2008, 5:21 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me - Mark 3:34 | LOL - Right | Dec 23, 2008, 5:15 pm |
| RE: standardized score | EGoyle | Dec 23, 2008, 5:09 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me - Mike 3:50 | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 5:08 pm |
| standardized score | nick | Dec 23, 2008, 4:41 pm |
| RE: RE: Are you kidding me (Rick) | Mark | Dec 23, 2008, 4:06 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me | Mike | Dec 23, 2008, 3:50 pm |
| RE: RE: Are you kidding me | Mark | Dec 23, 2008, 3:44 pm |
| RE: RE: Are you kidding me - Nope | Insurance Man | Dec 23, 2008, 3:43 pm |
| RE: Are you kidding me | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 3:38 pm |
| RE: Are you kidding me - Nope | Abe | Dec 23, 2008, 3:37 pm |
| Are you kidding me | Insurance Man | Dec 23, 2008, 3:31 pm |
| Wow | Peon Agent | Dec 23, 2008, 3:31 pm |
| RE: FDA & The Drug Companies | Matt | Dec 23, 2008, 3:28 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Mike | Dec 23, 2008, 3:22 pm |
| FDA & The Drug Companies | One Who Doesn't Get It | Dec 23, 2008, 3:20 pm |
| In with the new and out with the evil old ones | Waiting on Obama to take over | Dec 23, 2008, 3:19 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 3:17 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Common Sense | joe | Dec 23, 2008, 3:15 pm |
| Abe 3:06 | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 3:14 pm |
| Peon Agent?? I don think so... | Mike | Dec 23, 2008, 3:13 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense | Peon Agent | Dec 23, 2008, 3:09 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Abe | Dec 23, 2008, 3:06 pm |
| RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Doug | Dec 23, 2008, 3:05 pm |
| CHELI 2:47 | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 3:01 pm |
| RE: Vegans vs meat eaters | joe | Dec 23, 2008, 2:51 pm |
| RE: InsMgmt 2:13 | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:47 pm |
| RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:45 pm |
| Vegans vs meat eaters | We try not to write vegans | Dec 23, 2008, 2:44 pm |
| InsMgmt 2:13 | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 2:44 pm |
| RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Doug | Dec 23, 2008, 2:39 pm |
| RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:37 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense | joe | Dec 23, 2008, 2:36 pm |
| RE: RE: Compassion? | Brook | Dec 23, 2008, 2:35 pm |
| Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Mike | Dec 23, 2008, 2:33 pm |
| RE: Compassion? | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:30 pm |
| RE: RE: SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | brad | Dec 23, 2008, 2:28 pm |
| Compassion? | Actuary | Dec 23, 2008, 2:28 pm |
| Rates are like water... | Vlad | Dec 23, 2008, 2:27 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Common Sense - Jake 2:19 | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Common Sense - Rachel 2:11 | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:24 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense - Rachel 2:11 | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:23 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Common Sense | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:21 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense | Jake | Dec 23, 2008, 2:19 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense - Joe | Doug | Dec 23, 2008, 2:16 pm |
| RE: Common Sense | joe | Dec 23, 2008, 2:14 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:14 pm |
| Rick 1:41 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 2:13 pm |
| RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | Stat Guy | Dec 23, 2008, 2:12 pm |
| RE: Common Sense | Rachel | Dec 23, 2008, 2:11 pm |
| RE: RE: SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:10 pm |
| RE: RE: In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Obama | Stat Guy | Dec 23, 2008, 2:06 pm |
| Common Sense | Ralph | Dec 23, 2008, 2:05 pm |
| RE: SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | Porfirio | Dec 23, 2008, 2:01 pm |
| RE: experience says - - - | Mrs Dean Wormer | Dec 23, 2008, 1:58 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Interesting......how it's supposed to work.. | Stat Guy | Dec 23, 2008, 1:57 pm |
| Lets do a study on NASCAR | Ricky Rud | Dec 23, 2008, 1:53 pm |
| RE: SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | brad | Dec 23, 2008, 1:48 pm |
| RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | brad | Dec 23, 2008, 1:45 pm |
| SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | NEVER FEAR THE OBAMA IS HERE | Dec 23, 2008, 1:43 pm |
| InsMgmt 1:15 | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 1:41 pm |
| RE: Pat 11:41 | Pat Beranger | Dec 23, 2008, 1:40 pm |
| RE: Good Posts | Bill | Dec 23, 2008, 1:37 pm |
| RE: Scoring - cd 1:12 | Ratemaker | Dec 23, 2008, 1:32 pm |
| To Please | Bill | Dec 23, 2008, 1:32 pm |
| Bob 12:49 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 1:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | ins product manager | Dec 23, 2008, 1:25 pm |
| FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowners Insurance | RolfNeu | Dec 23, 2008, 1:25 pm |
| to please..... | Bob | Dec 23, 2008, 1:23 pm |
| Sick of race card | Bill | Dec 23, 2008, 1:22 pm |
| Pat 11:41 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 1:17 pm |
| George 11:28 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 1:15 pm |
| Rick 11:32 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 1:13 pm |
| Scoring | cd | Dec 23, 2008, 1:12 pm |
| Curious 12:49 | Hawk | Dec 23, 2008, 1:11 pm |
| RE: RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | staffman | Dec 23, 2008, 1:07 pm |
| Good Posts | Ray | Dec 23, 2008, 1:06 pm |
| fact.... | m & m | Dec 23, 2008, 1:03 pm |
| RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | The Soprano Family | Dec 23, 2008, 12:54 pm |
| sam the claims guy | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 12:52 pm |
| Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | ins product manager | Dec 23, 2008, 12:51 pm |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Curious | Dec 23, 2008, 12:49 pm |
| To InsMgmt | Bob | Dec 23, 2008, 12:49 pm |
| Credit Scoring | Dec 23, 2008, 12:46 pm |
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| RE: Obama is going to fix this. | Hope & Change Be A Coming! | Dec 23, 2008, 12:44 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | Texas | Dec 23, 2008, 12:43 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Ob | Glennie | Dec 23, 2008, 12:32 pm |
| experience says - - - | sam the claims guy | Dec 23, 2008, 12:22 pm |
| RE: RE: In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Obama | please..... | Dec 23, 2008, 12:20 pm |
| RE: In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Obama | Jack J Maniscalco | Dec 23, 2008, 12:18 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | company gal | Dec 23, 2008, 12:16 pm |
| In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Obama | Texas Agent | Dec 23, 2008, 12:03 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | nobody important | Dec 23, 2008, 12:02 pm |
| RE: Law-yer. 11:24 | Ned | Dec 23, 2008, 11:58 am |
| RE: RE: Obama is going to fix this. | Barack Obama | Dec 23, 2008, 11:57 am |
| RE: Obama is going to fix this. | glennie | Dec 23, 2008, 11:56 am |
| Obama is going to fix this. | Obama's gonna fix all this! | Dec 23, 2008, 11:54 am |
| Credit Scoring | John Q. Agent | Dec 23, 2008, 11:49 am |
| RE: Credit Scoring | Kelly | Dec 23, 2008, 11:49 am |
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By Anita Lee, The Sun Herald, Biloxi, Miss.
Nov. 16--As instructed, State Farm catastrophe manager Alexis "Lecky" King refused to answer questions an Oklahoma attorney fired at her for one hour and 10 minutes.
Instead, she repeated the same phrase 87 times: "Because of the ongoing state and federal investigation, on advice of counsel, at this time, I must invoke my constitutional right to remain silent."
[She would not tell the attorney why State Farm ordered a second damage report on property when the first showed a policyholder's losses were covered]. Nor was she willing to discuss why State Farm went with that second report, finding little or no covered damage.
It happened after an Oklahoma tornado and, records show, on the Mississippi Coast after Hurricane Katrina.
"Do you believe as a team manager -- catastrophe team manager -- that you owe any of either the policyholders in Oklahoma who endured their catastrophe of May 1999 or the policyholders who suffered losses in Katrina any type of apology?" asked the Oklahoma policyholders' attorney, Jeff D. Marr.
Same answer.
"Can you tell myself and this jury what it will take, what the next jury in January, or any juries down in the Gulf Coast states need to do in order to ensure that State Farm stops this kind of behavior?" Marr asked.
State Farm's attorney objected to the question.
It didn't matter. King feared answers might incriminate her because she is the target of a state grand jury investigation in Mississippi regarding the insurance industry's claims practices after Katrina. She was even unwilling to say what route she took to reach the Nov. 3 meeting in Pensacola, Fla., where she lives.
The Oklahoma Supreme Court compelled King, along with State Farm executives from Bloomington, Ill., headquarters, to submit under oath to Marr's questions.
An Oklahoma jury in May found that State Farm "recklessly disregarded" its duty to deal fairly with policyholders, doing so "intentionally and with malice" through the use of biased expert opinions after the 1999 tornado. The tornado, one of many to strike May 3, 1999, reached a strength of F5, the most catastrophic on the Fujita scale.
As a result, the first of Marr's tornado clients collected $13 million in damages. Marr hopes to show State Farm's behavior continued in Mississippi. By doing so, he could secure higher damages for 70 more members of his class-action lawsuit in Oklahoma.
State Farm issued a statement Friday in response to Sun Herald questions about the legal activity: "The tornado that struck Oklahoma City in 1999 and Hurricane Katrina are two separate events," the company said. "We handle claims individually and pay what we owe based on the contract with the policyholder."
Marr is sharing information with Mississippi attorneys representing hundreds of State Farm policyholders whose homes Hurricane Katrina damaged or destroyed.
He also is sharing information with the Mississippi attorney general, who has convened the grand jury investigation, and with the U.S. Justice Department, which has launched a probe of its own.
In fact, Marr has announced to the world on his Web site, www.marrlawfirm.com., where to secure court records about State Farm.
State Farm attorneys have fought to keep employee testimony private in Oklahoma and Mississippi. In fact, at State Farm's request, an Oklahoma judge has forbade further discussion of the case by Marr and the other attorneys. State Farm is using court protections and procedures, the company said, available to all parties in a lawsuit.
As cases in both states grind forward, more information comes to light.
Executives for the nation's largest property and casualty insurer deny any intentional misconduct. They said the company worked with nationally recognized engineering firms to help determine what policyholders were owed in less than 2 percent of 84,000 Katrina claims in Mississippi.
In sworn testimony this summer in Oklahoma, company chairman and CEO Edward B. Rust Jr. said: "And that is ultimately my concern, also, is that we want to be fair with our customers. After all, the success of this organization is driven by our ability to retain current customers and to attract new customers. The last thing we want to do is be unfair with our customers."
Rust has not testified in Mississippi, but Lecky King did. Her testimony in a federal lawsuit filed in Gulfport is under wraps on orders from U.S. Magistrate Judge Robert H. Walker. Attorneys can't discuss what she did or did not say.
Two State Farm whistleblowers said, King and assistant Lisa Wachter were the only employees in the Coast office allowed to communicate with engineering firms the company used to help sort out what State Farm owed some policyholders after Katrina. Normally, the whistleblowers have said, State Farm adjusters communicated directly with engineering firms.
When a report blamed the covered peril of wind for damage, the whistleblowers said, King ordered another to show the culprit was water, covered by the federal flood insurance program. The company finally called a halt to the reports altogether, the whistleblowers said, because too many showed wind damage.
Joe Hollomon, once a federal prosecutor himself, said his clients, King and Wachter, had nothing to gain by denying claims and were here to help policyholders. In Oklahoma, King's testimony is a matter of public record, but the attorneys are not allowed to hand it out.
Hollomon told Marr before the questions started: "Obviously, we're, you know, that's a matter of concern to myself and my client. She's going to assert her constitutional privilege and, of course, the dissemination of that could obviously prejudice her if we one day find ourselves in front of a jury somewhere in Mississippi, so, you know, we're very concerned about that."
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State Farm engineering reports
Below are engineering reports recently filed as part of the Oklahoma lawsuit:
Larry Lowe residence, Oklahoma City
May 24, 1999: Strum Engineering, Oklahoma City, hired by State Farm, concluded high winds racked the roof, causing rafters to separate from the ridge, which could lead to leaks from rain and eventually create safety issues. Repairs recommended.
June 11, 1999: State Farm asked Haag Engineering to examine the house. Haag concluded in a report issued July 21: "It is our opinion that the Love (sic) residence was not structurally damaged by wind, and the frame requires no repairs."
Michael and Lisa Pole property, Oklahoma City
July 19, 1999: Strider Associates, hired by the Poles, found tornado damage to roof framing, decking and brick veneer, all requiring replacement.
July 27, 1999: A State Farm claims representative makes note of the Strider report and repairs recommended, then concluded, "I believe we should hire a structural engineer to inspect and provide us with their expert opinion."
Aug. 18, 1999: Inspecting for State Farm,Haag Engineering concluded, "The primary structural system of the Pole residence had not been damaged by wind." Wind damaged only a few roof shingles, the report says.
Terri Mullins property, Kiln, Miss.
Oct. 23, 2005: Forensic Analysis & Engineering Corp., hired by State Farm, concluded "the primary and predominant cause of damage to the subject property was due to hurricane force winds. This is based on the displacement of the house and the absence of water damage to the same."
Jan. 3, 2006: A second Forensic Analysis report says wind caused "tree failures," the cause of interior damage is undetermined and that "movement of the house across the street with "minimal obvious wind damage is consistent with a buoyant force applied to the building by rising water allowing the wind to blow the house northwards until it reached an obstruction." (State Farm interprets its policies to say wind damage is not covered when water contributes.)
Thomas and Pamela McIntosh property, Biloxi
Oct. 12, 2005: Forensic Analysis & Engineering Corp. concluded roof, door, carport and window damage was caused by wind, along with interior damage. The report State Farm ordered included a sticky note on the first page that said, "Put in Wind file -- DO NOT Pay Bill, DO NOT discuss."
Oct. 20, 2005: Forensic concluded wind damaged shingles, along with the second story floor and first floor ceilings, but said "damage to first floor walls and floors appears to be predominately caused by rising water."
State Farm issued the following statement Friday regarding its handling of policyholder claims. It reads, in part:
"The tornado that struck Oklahoma City in 1999 and Hurricane Katrina are two separate events. We handle claims individually and pay what we owe based on the contract with the policyholder.
"State Farm occasionally seeks the help of nationally recognized engineering firms to assist us in determining the cause of loss.
"Following last year's hurricanes, we sought assistance from these firms in less than 2 percent of the 84,000 claims filed in Mississippi. Katrina was an unprecedented event and in a small number of claims there was more than one engineering report due to multiple reasons.
"Our intent was to seek assistance to help us settle claims with our policyholders."
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