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FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowners Insurance Pricing
National News December 23, 2008
U.S. regulators have asked nine major insurance companies, including Allstate Corp. and Travelers Cos. Inc., to provide information about how they set prices for homeowners' coverage, the Federal ...
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| RE: : listen | nobody important | Jan 14, 2009, 2:32 pm |
| : listen | integrity | Jan 14, 2009, 8:54 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: listen to an industry giant! | nobody important | Jan 12, 2009, 1:13 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: listen to an industry giant! | practices ranked worse | Jan 9, 2009, 11:09 am |
| RE: RE: RE: listen to an industry giant! | nobody important | Jan 9, 2009, 9:49 am |
| RE: RE: listen to an industry giant! | U.S. regulators have | Jan 7, 2009, 11:41 pm |
| RE: listen to an industry giant! | Brokette | Jan 7, 2009, 9:55 am |
| listen to an industry giant! | Interesting Brokette! | Jan 6, 2009, 11:27 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | Brokette | Jan 6, 2009, 11:55 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | LOOSE ENDS | Jan 6, 2009, 10:22 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | nobody important | Jan 6, 2009, 10:19 am |
| RE: RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | Brokette | Jan 6, 2009, 10:00 am |
| RE: RE: : It doesn't even come close . | Run along, now. | Jan 6, 2009, 9:45 am |
| RE: : It doesn't even come close . | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 11:17 pm |
| : It doesn't even come close . | even come close to costing | Jan 5, 2009, 6:57 pm |
| RE: RE: It doesn't even come close to costing what an ad wou | board with the picture. | Jan 5, 2009, 6:54 pm |
| RE: It doesn't even come close to costing what an ad would c | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 6:01 pm |
| It doesn't even come close to costing what an ad would cost | State Farm buys ad time during | Jan 5, 2009, 5:50 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: | nobody important | Jan 5, 2009, 12:49 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 12:42 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: | nobody important | Jan 5, 2009, 12:21 pm |
| RE: RE: | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 11:38 am |
| RE: | nobody important | Jan 5, 2009, 11:18 am |
| "Is it privileged?" | WE ALL WANT TO BELIEVE IN COMP | Jan 5, 2009, 10:37 am |
| RE: RE: RE: new policy forms -1000 feet across the road . | Brokette | Jan 5, 2009, 9:35 am |
| RE: RE: new policy forms -1000 feet across the road . | State Farm projects | Jan 4, 2009, 10:39 pm |
| RE: new policy forms -1000 feet across the road . | Brokette | Jan 4, 2009, 10:28 pm |
| new policy forms -1000 feet across the road . | Burden of Proof | Jan 4, 2009, 7:54 pm |
| RE: RE: Discover the power of knowledge | knowledge | Jan 4, 2009, 7:23 pm |
| RE: Discover the power of knowledge | does not go high enough. | Jan 4, 2009, 7:21 pm |
| Discover the power of knowledge | would not tell the attorney wh | Jan 4, 2009, 7:14 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: we should all be adults-nation's worst | Brokette | Jan 4, 2009, 3:59 pm |
| RE: RE: we should all be adults-nation's worst | Nobler purpose | Jan 4, 2009, 2:56 pm |
| RE: we should all be adults | Nobler purpose | Jan 4, 2009, 2:48 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: in their investigation of claims. | Brokette | Jan 4, 2009, 1:17 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: in their investigation of claims. | That is just penny wise and po | Jan 4, 2009, 11:47 am |
| RE: RE: in their investigation of claims. | Brokette | Jan 4, 2009, 10:10 am |
| RE: in their investigation of claims. | insurance industry , hard look | Jan 4, 2009, 7:30 am |
| adults.RIGHT. | battled for eight years to | Jan 4, 2009, 6:53 am |
| in their investigation of claims. You might think this is j | investigation of claims | Jan 4, 2009, 6:37 am |
| RE: RE: we should all be adults | Brokette | Jan 3, 2009, 10:33 pm |
| RE: we should all be adults | Pay more attention. | Jan 3, 2009, 9:05 pm |
| RE: choice - EXPERIENCE | Brokette | Jan 3, 2009, 5:38 pm |
| RE: RE: choice - IT,S A MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE EXPERIENCE | - IT,S A MESSAGE | Jan 2, 2009, 9:29 pm |
| RE: choice - IT,S A MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE EXPERIENCE | read one more time | Jan 2, 2009, 9:02 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring and Insurance | completely irritated | Jan 2, 2009, 6:57 pm |
| RE: To: Greg - Dec 29 12:59 PM | FL vs FA | Jan 2, 2009, 6:43 pm |
| choice - EXPERIENCE | IT,S A MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE | Jan 2, 2009, 11:29 am |
| RE: RE: RE: : @companies ask choice point | Brokette | Jan 2, 2009, 9:38 am |
| RE: RE: : @companies ask choice point | I will cast my lot! | Jan 1, 2009, 2:11 pm |
| RE: : @companies ask choice point | Brokette | Jan 1, 2009, 11:21 am |
| : @companies ask choice point | professionals | Jan 1, 2009, 8:10 am |
| RE: about the rights of the policyholders | nobody important | Dec 31, 2008, 9:33 pm |
| : we should > Talkback-government bailout | AND YOU ALL WANTED JOE | Dec 31, 2008, 7:30 pm |
| RE: about the rights of the policyholders | LOUD NOISES | Dec 31, 2008, 4:43 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | Brokette | Dec 31, 2008, 12:38 pm |
| RE: we should all be adults | try cutting and paste this in | Dec 31, 2008, 10:11 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | nobody important Dec 31, 2008, | Dec 31, 2008, 10:05 am |
| about the rights of the policyholders | nobody important | Dec 31, 2008, 10:01 am |
| RE: RE: RE: a tool-WHAT PART TO YOU ALL NOT GET? | SAY I CAN | Dec 31, 2008, 9:58 am |
| RE: RE: a tool-WHAT PART TO YOU ALL NOT GET? | notthing about this HUH!!! | Dec 31, 2008, 9:55 am |
| RE: RE: o-with little federal oversight | Buckeye | Dec 31, 2008, 9:38 am |
| RE: o-with little federal oversight | Brokette | Dec 30, 2008, 9:30 pm |
| o-with little federal oversight | federal oversight. | Dec 30, 2008, 8:29 pm |
| RE: a tool | LOOK IT UP- | Dec 30, 2008, 3:44 pm |
| RE: no right to information about an investigation | class of business.- | Dec 30, 2008, 3:42 pm |
| RE: W -see court records and evidence in a consumer fraud ca | keep secret | Dec 30, 2008, 3:38 pm |
| W -see court records and evidence in a consumer fraud case t | misconduct. | Dec 30, 2008, 3:33 pm |
| RE: To: Greg - Dec 29 12:59 PM | Greg | Dec 30, 2008, 3:03 pm |
| RE: RE: What are predictive models? | Buckeye | Dec 30, 2008, 2:51 pm |
| RE: What are predictive models? | nobody important | Dec 30, 2008, 2:43 pm |
| What are predictive models? | Buckeye | Dec 30, 2008, 2:14 pm |
| RE: To: Greg - Dec 29 12:59 PM | nobody important | Dec 30, 2008, 1:23 pm |
| To: Greg - Dec 29 12:59 PM | Lame Brain | Dec 30, 2008, 12:34 pm |
| Discussion thread? | Buckeye | Dec 30, 2008, 11:39 am |
| RE: haha - illiterate fool - Leave the country | nobody important | Dec 30, 2008, 11:32 am |
| haha - illiterate fool - Leave the country | Mark | Dec 30, 2008, 10:23 am |
| RE: IN SALT-LAKE | nobody important | Dec 30, 2008, 10:22 am |
| IN SALT-LAKE | former in-house | Dec 30, 2008, 10:16 am |
| RE: RE: RE: IQ Chief -WE CAN MAKE LAWS WORK FOR US BECAUSE W | MAKE LAWS WORK FOR | Dec 30, 2008, 10:09 am |
| RE: RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | Brokette | Dec 30, 2008, 10:06 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive - IS THAT SO BILL]. | Don Quixote | Dec 30, 2008, 10:02 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive - IS THAT SO BILL]. | Jake | Dec 30, 2008, 10:01 am |
| RE: IQ Chief Executive - IS THAT SO BILL]. | !A HAVE DONE NOTHING ABOUT ! | Dec 30, 2008, 9:55 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive | on their financial strength | Dec 30, 2008, 9:33 am |
| IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | Bill | Dec 30, 2008, 9:33 am |
| RE: RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | Two former in-house attorneys | Dec 30, 2008, 9:22 am |
| Loud Noises | Buckeye | Dec 30, 2008, 7:31 am |
| not criminals - just a idiots in the insurance | Dec 29, 2008, 8:56 pm |
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| RE: to: greg | ANGER | Dec 29, 2008, 6:51 pm |
| RE: RE: - Its pretty simple They are not criminals - just a | loco in la cabesa | Dec 29, 2008, 6:35 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: from a great book!! | Dec 29, 2008, 6:16 pm |
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| RE: RE: RE: to: greg | insguru | Dec 29, 2008, 6:05 pm |
| RE: yourself about a subject.-thats the only way | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 3:38 pm |
| yourself about a subject.-thats the only way | Dec 29, 2008, 3:10 pm |
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| RE: you would not known the court has all of this..... | watching these tapes | Dec 29, 2008, 3:07 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Nobody important is nobody smart | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 2:44 pm |
| RE: RE: Nobody important is nobody smart | Delicious Pastries | Dec 29, 2008, 2:32 pm |
| RE: Nobody important is nobody smart | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 1:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: to: greg | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 1:22 pm |
| RE: RE: from a great book!! | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 1:19 pm |
| RE: from a great book!! | privileged?" | Dec 29, 2008, 1:09 pm |
| RE: RE: To: Lame Brain | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 12:59 pm |
| Nobody Important and Lame Brain | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 12:55 pm |
| from a great book!! | Dec 29, 2008, 12:51 pm |
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| to: brokette | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 12:29 pm |
| Nobody important is nobody smart | Darren | Dec 29, 2008, 12:26 pm |
| RE: RE: to: greg | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 12:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: IQ rather than Credit - Correction | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 12:16 pm |
| RE: RE: to: greg | Brokette | Dec 29, 2008, 12:15 pm |
| RE: to: greg | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 12:11 pm |
| RE: RE: IQ rather than Credit | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 12:10 pm |
| RE: To: Lame Brain | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 12:10 pm |
| to: greg | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 11:57 am |
| To: Lame Brain | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 11:48 am |
| RE: IQ rather than Credit | Lame Brain | Dec 29, 2008, 11:22 am |
| RE: IQ Chief Executive Officer of State Fa | have them complete IQ tests | Dec 29, 2008, 10:43 am |
| IQ rather than Credit | Interesting Study | Dec 29, 2008, 10:41 am |
| Scoring - Insuranceblame the govt and the banks. | THE BIG CEO$$$ | Dec 29, 2008, 10:39 am |
| RE: Credit Scoring and Insurance | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 10:29 am |
| government to help it remain in business. | loans | Dec 29, 2008, 10:20 am |
| Credit Scoring and Insurance | Average consumer | Dec 29, 2008, 10:15 am |
| no right to information about an investigation | policyholders have no right ,S | Dec 29, 2008, 9:47 am |
| RE: To: National News • December 23, 2 | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 9:39 am |
| RE: a tool | nobody important | Dec 29, 2008, 9:38 am |
| To: National News • December 23, 2 | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 9:37 am |
| a tool | for Brokette | Dec 29, 2008, 9:32 am |
| Hey Einstein | Greg | Dec 29, 2008, 9:28 am |
| Remeber the hey days | One | Dec 29, 2008, 9:23 am |
| repeal insurers anti trust exemption | Fair Game | Dec 29, 2008, 9:18 am |
| RE: RE: Abe 3:06 | Brokette | Dec 29, 2008, 9:17 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Jr. said | Dec 29, 2008, 9:15 am |
| RE: - Its pretty simple They are not criminals - just a lit | Hope | Dec 29, 2008, 8:58 am |
| RE: Abe 3:06 | cheli | Dec 29, 2008, 8:03 am |
| RE: CHELI 2:47 | cheli | Dec 29, 2008, 7:59 am |
| we should all be adults | Pay more attention | Dec 29, 2008, 2:17 am |
| - Its pretty simple They are not criminals - just a little | Here is something I know | Dec 29, 2008, 1:47 am |
| RE: RE: RE: TO Confidence led upright. You believed in honor | experience says - - - | Dec 29, 2008, 1:18 am |
| RE: RE: TO Confidence led upright. You believed in honor, an | Peon Agent | Dec 28, 2008, 9:14 pm |
| RE: TO Confidence led upright. You believed in honor, and th | MELANIE | Dec 28, 2008, 7:56 pm |
| TO BOB KOCHAN. | from ' Randy DOWN | Dec 28, 2008, 7:51 pm |
| RE: Interesting......point | non-regulated world. | Dec 28, 2008, 5:49 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use f | Einstein | Dec 28, 2008, 10:29 am |
| RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specifically | National News • December 23, 2 | Dec 27, 2008, 9:00 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them | On The Fox | Dec 27, 2008, 8:50 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them spec | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 3:47 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 3:46 pm |
| RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specific | nobody important | Dec 27, 2008, 3:24 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for t | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 3:09 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them | Peon Agent | Dec 27, 2008, 1:31 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them spec | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 12:24 pm |
| RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specific | let me help you. | Dec 27, 2008, 10:23 am |
| RE: RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specific | point | Dec 27, 2008, 10:21 am |
| RE: @companies ask choice point to use for them specifically | insguru | Dec 27, 2008, 9:43 am |
| @companies ask choice point to use for them specifically. | Melanie | Dec 26, 2008, 8:59 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | insguru | Dec 26, 2008, 7:16 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowner | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 2:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 1:54 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowner | SWFL Agent | Dec 26, 2008, 1:50 pm |
| RE: RE: FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowners In | InsIsMyPassion | Dec 26, 2008, 12:00 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | No Way | Dec 26, 2008, 11:36 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 10:29 am |
| RE: FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowners Insura | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 10:25 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | RateAdequacy | Dec 26, 2008, 10:19 am |
| RE: RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Greg | Dec 26, 2008, 9:36 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Santa Clause | Dec 24, 2008, 2:34 pm |
| RE: RE: To Old Ins Guy & Peon Agent | Brokette | Dec 24, 2008, 11:41 am |
| RE: To Old Ins Guy & Peon Agent | Peon Agent | Dec 24, 2008, 11:30 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Peon Agent | Dec 24, 2008, 11:27 am |
| To Old Ins Guy & Peon Agent | Brokette | Dec 24, 2008, 11:21 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Actuary | Dec 24, 2008, 10:59 am |
| RE: RE: Auto Notification - Mike & Jake | Peon Agent | Dec 24, 2008, 10:35 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | staffman | Dec 24, 2008, 10:31 am |
| RE: RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Mike | Dec 24, 2008, 10:26 am |
| RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | staffman | Dec 24, 2008, 10:19 am |
| RE: RE: Auto Notification - Mike & Jake | Old Ins Guy | Dec 24, 2008, 10:06 am |
| RE: Auto Notification - Mike & Jake | Brokette | Dec 24, 2008, 10:02 am |
| RE: RE: staffman - Its pretty simple - Idiot!!!! | Ralph | Dec 24, 2008, 9:33 am |
| RE: staffman - Its pretty simple | Bob | Dec 24, 2008, 9:25 am |
| staffman - Its pretty simple | Mike | Dec 24, 2008, 9:23 am |
| Income issue | staffman | Dec 24, 2008, 9:14 am |
| RE: Auto Notification | Jake | Dec 24, 2008, 9:13 am |
| Auto Notification | Mike | Dec 24, 2008, 9:12 am |
| RE: RE: RE: Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Juliet | Dec 24, 2008, 9:10 am |
| RE: RE: Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Obama Gurl | Dec 24, 2008, 8:52 am |
| RE: Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Obama Gurl | Dec 24, 2008, 7:54 am |
| Let's use some logic in deciding the rules. | Democratic Logic | Dec 24, 2008, 7:43 am |
| RE: RE: Why I do not accept the - Dar 6:23 | nobody important | Dec 24, 2008, 7:04 am |
| To please......please!! | Buckeye | Dec 24, 2008, 6:15 am |
| RE: RE: Why I do not accept the - Dar 6:23 | EGoyle | Dec 23, 2008, 9:03 pm |
| RE: Why I do not accept the - Dar 6:23 | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 6:50 pm |
| Why I do not accept the "Credit Scoring" studies | DarNovak | Dec 23, 2008, 6:23 pm |
| RE: Why I do not accept | EGoyle | Dec 23, 2008, 6:08 pm |
| Why I do not accept "Ccredit Scoring" | DarNovak | Dec 23, 2008, 5:53 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me - Mike 3:50 | Seriously | Dec 23, 2008, 5:21 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me - Mark 3:34 | LOL - Right | Dec 23, 2008, 5:15 pm |
| RE: standardized score | EGoyle | Dec 23, 2008, 5:09 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me - Mike 3:50 | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 5:08 pm |
| standardized score | nick | Dec 23, 2008, 4:41 pm |
| RE: RE: Are you kidding me (Rick) | Mark | Dec 23, 2008, 4:06 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Are you kidding me | Mike | Dec 23, 2008, 3:50 pm |
| RE: RE: Are you kidding me | Mark | Dec 23, 2008, 3:44 pm |
| RE: RE: Are you kidding me - Nope | Insurance Man | Dec 23, 2008, 3:43 pm |
| RE: Are you kidding me | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 3:38 pm |
| RE: Are you kidding me - Nope | Abe | Dec 23, 2008, 3:37 pm |
| Are you kidding me | Insurance Man | Dec 23, 2008, 3:31 pm |
| Wow | Peon Agent | Dec 23, 2008, 3:31 pm |
| RE: FDA & The Drug Companies | Matt | Dec 23, 2008, 3:28 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Mike | Dec 23, 2008, 3:22 pm |
| FDA & The Drug Companies | One Who Doesn't Get It | Dec 23, 2008, 3:20 pm |
| In with the new and out with the evil old ones | Waiting on Obama to take over | Dec 23, 2008, 3:19 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 3:17 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Common Sense | joe | Dec 23, 2008, 3:15 pm |
| Abe 3:06 | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 3:14 pm |
| Peon Agent?? I don think so... | Mike | Dec 23, 2008, 3:13 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense | Peon Agent | Dec 23, 2008, 3:09 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Abe | Dec 23, 2008, 3:06 pm |
| RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Doug | Dec 23, 2008, 3:05 pm |
| CHELI 2:47 | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 3:01 pm |
| RE: Vegans vs meat eaters | joe | Dec 23, 2008, 2:51 pm |
| RE: InsMgmt 2:13 | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:47 pm |
| RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:45 pm |
| Vegans vs meat eaters | We try not to write vegans | Dec 23, 2008, 2:44 pm |
| InsMgmt 2:13 | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 2:44 pm |
| RE: RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Doug | Dec 23, 2008, 2:39 pm |
| RE: Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:37 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense | joe | Dec 23, 2008, 2:36 pm |
| RE: RE: Compassion? | Brook | Dec 23, 2008, 2:35 pm |
| Hey Brook? Will you take this bet? | Mike | Dec 23, 2008, 2:33 pm |
| RE: Compassion? | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:30 pm |
| RE: RE: SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | brad | Dec 23, 2008, 2:28 pm |
| Compassion? | Actuary | Dec 23, 2008, 2:28 pm |
| Rates are like water... | Vlad | Dec 23, 2008, 2:27 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Common Sense - Jake 2:19 | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Common Sense - Rachel 2:11 | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:24 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense - Rachel 2:11 | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:23 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Common Sense | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:21 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense | Jake | Dec 23, 2008, 2:19 pm |
| RE: RE: Common Sense - Joe | Doug | Dec 23, 2008, 2:16 pm |
| RE: Common Sense | joe | Dec 23, 2008, 2:14 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | CHELI | Dec 23, 2008, 2:14 pm |
| Rick 1:41 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 2:13 pm |
| RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | Stat Guy | Dec 23, 2008, 2:12 pm |
| RE: Common Sense | Rachel | Dec 23, 2008, 2:11 pm |
| RE: RE: SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | Brokette | Dec 23, 2008, 2:10 pm |
| RE: RE: In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Obama | Stat Guy | Dec 23, 2008, 2:06 pm |
| Common Sense | Ralph | Dec 23, 2008, 2:05 pm |
| RE: SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | Porfirio | Dec 23, 2008, 2:01 pm |
| RE: experience says - - - | Mrs Dean Wormer | Dec 23, 2008, 1:58 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Interesting......how it's supposed to work.. | Stat Guy | Dec 23, 2008, 1:57 pm |
| Lets do a study on NASCAR | Ricky Rud | Dec 23, 2008, 1:53 pm |
| RE: SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | brad | Dec 23, 2008, 1:48 pm |
| RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | brad | Dec 23, 2008, 1:45 pm |
| SOCIALIZED INSURANCE | NEVER FEAR THE OBAMA IS HERE | Dec 23, 2008, 1:43 pm |
| InsMgmt 1:15 | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 1:41 pm |
| RE: Pat 11:41 | Pat Beranger | Dec 23, 2008, 1:40 pm |
| RE: Good Posts | Bill | Dec 23, 2008, 1:37 pm |
| RE: Scoring - cd 1:12 | Ratemaker | Dec 23, 2008, 1:32 pm |
| To Please | Bill | Dec 23, 2008, 1:32 pm |
| Bob 12:49 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 1:26 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | ins product manager | Dec 23, 2008, 1:25 pm |
| FTC Probing Insurers Over Credit-based Homeowners Insurance | RolfNeu | Dec 23, 2008, 1:25 pm |
| to please..... | Bob | Dec 23, 2008, 1:23 pm |
| Sick of race card | Bill | Dec 23, 2008, 1:22 pm |
| Pat 11:41 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 1:17 pm |
| George 11:28 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 1:15 pm |
| Rick 11:32 | InsMgmt | Dec 23, 2008, 1:13 pm |
| Scoring | cd | Dec 23, 2008, 1:12 pm |
| Curious 12:49 | Hawk | Dec 23, 2008, 1:11 pm |
| RE: RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | staffman | Dec 23, 2008, 1:07 pm |
| Good Posts | Ray | Dec 23, 2008, 1:06 pm |
| fact.... | m & m | Dec 23, 2008, 1:03 pm |
| RE: Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | The Soprano Family | Dec 23, 2008, 12:54 pm |
| sam the claims guy | Rick | Dec 23, 2008, 12:52 pm |
| Govt Assessable Mutual Insurance | ins product manager | Dec 23, 2008, 12:51 pm |
| RE: RE: Credit Scoring | Curious | Dec 23, 2008, 12:49 pm |
| To InsMgmt | Bob | Dec 23, 2008, 12:49 pm |
| Credit Scoring | Dec 23, 2008, 12:46 pm |
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| RE: Obama is going to fix this. | Hope & Change Be A Coming! | Dec 23, 2008, 12:44 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | Texas | Dec 23, 2008, 12:43 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Ob | Glennie | Dec 23, 2008, 12:32 pm |
| experience says - - - | sam the claims guy | Dec 23, 2008, 12:22 pm |
| RE: RE: In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Obama | please..... | Dec 23, 2008, 12:20 pm |
| RE: In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Obama | Jack J Maniscalco | Dec 23, 2008, 12:18 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | company gal | Dec 23, 2008, 12:16 pm |
| In Texas Whitey pays same as others including Obama | Texas Agent | Dec 23, 2008, 12:03 pm |
| RE: Credit Scoring | nobody important | Dec 23, 2008, 12:02 pm |
| RE: Law-yer. 11:24 | Ned | Dec 23, 2008, 11:58 am |
| RE: RE: Obama is going to fix this. | Barack Obama | Dec 23, 2008, 11:57 am |
| RE: Obama is going to fix this. | glennie | Dec 23, 2008, 11:56 am |
| Obama is going to fix this. | Obama's gonna fix all this! | Dec 23, 2008, 11:54 am |
| Credit Scoring | John Q. Agent | Dec 23, 2008, 11:49 am |
| RE: Credit Scoring | Kelly | Dec 23, 2008, 11:49 am |
| Law-yer. 11:24 | Hawk | Dec 23, 2008, 11:45 am |
| Credit Scoring | Ned | Dec 23, 2008, 11:41 am |
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Subject: RE: RE: new policy forms -1000 feet across the road .
on numerous State Farm projects, as well as for many other companies.
All with varying degrees of profit potential. What you're about to read
is worth your time ... trust me. It may save you from making a big
mistake.
We've all heard the horror stories which have been circulating for years
now, about how bad State Farm often treats it's independent adjusters,
as well as their policy holders. To date, however, I've been mostly
spared the bad trips many other adjusters have experienced. I've made
money working for State Farm in the past, but it's getting more and more
difficult, especially on a large CAT.
Now I have my own nightmare to add to the stories you've heard. By the
way, it's true ... they do behave like Nazi's toward independents on
most of their projects, and care about as little for the independent
adjuster, as they do for their policy holders. For those who have worked
for what's come to be known as Hitler's "SF," you know what I'm talking
about. The latest term I've heard to describe them in south Mississippi
is, "The Great Satan." This is how angry people have become here.
This year I was begged, I mean literally begged by a certain
independent, to come and help them out on their hurricane Georges
operation in south Mississippi, because the adjuster before me had
ditched the storm. Fool that I was, I went to try and help out, only to
get the worst screwing I've gotten in a very long time.
To begin with, at least a third of the flood files I was given, required
underwriting reformation before a scope could be agreed to, or any
advances issued. This process was taking up to 30 days when I left. Keep
in mind, in many cases these are people out of their homes without
additional living expenses. Many were so upset, that they were either in
tears when I arrived, or furious that they couldn't get any advance
money. Add to this the problem of closing these files. You can't close a
flood claim that is being corrected for underwriting errors. You can't
bill it either. We couldn't even close our no claims, until what has
come to be known as "The Reformation" is completed on the policy.
When I asked one of their wealthy agents, who's home I just happened to
be handling for minor flood damage, what an elevated structure was, the
agent admitted to me that she had no clue. And that she had not even
been to a seminar or workshop on the subject, because they were
inconveniently held out of town. Far from being an isolated case, there
are hundreds, possibly thousands of State Farm policy holders all across
the southern Gulf Coast, who are getting screwed more than they usually
do by State Farm, all because the company failed to properly school
and(or) test their agents on how to accurately file the underwriting on
a dwelling flood policy.
But the nightmare doesn't end there, the poor people in many cases will
owe money when the underwriting errors are corrected, because they were
being undercharged on their coverage, for in some cases YEARS! Try
handling a claim where, because of the hurricane, the policy holder owes
the insurance company money!!! It's the most negligent situation I've
ever encountered since I started adjusting. It wouldn't surprise me to
see a class action lawsuit against them for this, if their isn't one
already.
And get this, the policy holders all say that after they purchased their
policies, someone came out and inspected their homes in order to verify
the application. Makes you wonder who's watching the store here.
Amazing how these hypocritical bastards will nickel and dime the poor
people to death, meticulously handling their disaster claims to
undeniable lean accuracy. Only to handle the underwriting with such a
disregard for correctness, as to cause a second catastrophe in the poor
people's lives.
It's as if someone owned a grocery store, who didn't care to manage the
receipts for his wholesale inventory, but managed to death, the check
out clerks, the bagboys, and the customers for shoplifting concerns.
Going so far as to do body cavity searches of everyone who dares leave
the store with any merchandise, even though the goods are already paid
for.
What's worse, when I arrived at the CAT two weeks after the storm, no
one informed me how bad things were, because all they were looking for
at that point were warm bodies to help control the dam break of
underwriting errors. Many of the adjusters before me had already fled
the situation.
Little did I know that the underwriting problems had created an
apparently dire legal or political situation, whereby we were told that
the storm office had to be closed by Thanksgiving. This created an extra
element of stress during the operation, that became a nightmare for me
personally. I have a hard time dealing with people who are angry for
good reason. It's hard to put a value on your labor under those kinds of
circumstances, because you have to spend so much of your time hand
holding. Work like this should be billed at time and expense, or a daily
rate, it's that simple.
Rumor is that the Mississippi State insurance commissioner has caught
wind of the big mishap, and is coming down hard on State Farm, forcing
them to rush their claims to completion. Keep in mind that you will
probably not be paid for the time and effort you put into the files you
cannot close before they are reassigned. This is common practice with
State Farm, stealing labor, and don't kid yourself, the adjusting firms
you are working for don't give a damn about you or your money, because
they will get theirs, regardless.
When I received my files, many of the insured's were complaining that we
were the third and fourth adjuster who had contacted them. This was only
two weeks into the storm! Why, because it's getting hard to find good
adjuster's willing to be a part of the "SF." They simply don't pay
enough for the garbage you have to put up with, and it creates
underlying resentment throughout the whole operation. They seem to take
pride in denying people all the they can, and that includes denying the
independent adjuster a fair return on their investment of time and
labor. I swear, working in one of their offices, is often like working
in a maximum security prison. You have no freedom to do anything, except
kiss the guards asses continually, while they strip you of every bit of
pride you ever had in your work. Their arrogance is unequaled in the
industry, and as I have said, I have worked for just about everybody at
one time or another.
My advice. Never ever work for a State Farm catastrophe operation,
unless it's minor wind or hail, or you get lucky and are working in an
independent's branch completely separated from their offices. Otherwise,
you will have to put up with 10 times more crap than working for anyone
else, and if you're lucky, you'll make even less money.
One of the reasons I've always liked adjusting property claims in a
disaster situation, was because I felt like I was helping people.
Working for State Farm, I rarely have that feeling. Instead, I have the
feeling that I'm screwing people, and it's awful. You go home tired at
night, after spending all day on your inspections, and you think about
all the people you screwed that day, because by the time you get done
with withholding their roof tear-off, and their depreciation, and their
hurricane deductible, they are left with nothing, except a premium
notice that just keeps on coming, year after year. This business has
gone down hill precipitously since I got into it ten years ago, and I'm
seriously thinking of leaving the industry. I just don't get that good
feeling I used to, especially working for the Great Satan.
Which brings to mind something that just bugs the crap out of me. One of
the worst things State Farm does, in my opinion, is consider partial
roof replacement a betterment. I wish someone would challenge this in
court, again and again if necessary, because if I was sitting on a jury,
I would throw Holy Water all over them on this issue. It's insane to
call slope replacement a betterment, and we all know it. In the mind of
the average Joe it's a repair, because in most people's minds the word
"roof" is singular.
If any independent adjusters are interested in joining me for a possible
class action lawsuit against State Farm, and the temporary employment
agencies they utilize; for unfair and deceptive labor practices, and
whatever else we can come up with, please contact me at my E-mail
address, or watch for future bulletins on this web page.
I have been told that there is a famed attorney who might be willing to
make our case, due to some common interest in another action he's
undertaken, and which is currently pending against State Farm, by the
policy the holders in the state of Mississippi. Let's face it, our
testimony could be devastating to State Farm, if we spoke on behalf of
the policy holders in any courtroom in the land. It could be the
greatest bombshell ever to hit the industry, and one well deserved. Much
bigger than the Allstate fury currently brewing in California.
What do we have to lose? Most of us don't care if we ever work for them
again anyway. If State Farm disappeared tomorrow, most independents
would jump for joy.