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Florida Subpoenas Allstate Over Home Insurance Rate Increases, Industry Ties
Southeast News October 16, 2007
Florida officials have subpoenaed Allstate Insurance and its subsidiaries to get the insurer to explain why it is not lowering homeowners insurance rates in the state and to defend its dealings ...
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| Truth? | Oct 22, 2007, 5:37 pm |
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| RE: RE: RE: Karen | Kent | Oct 19, 2007, 11:44 pm |
| RE: RE: Karen | really | Oct 19, 2007, 2:20 pm |
| RE: Karen | Kent | Oct 19, 2007, 12:15 pm |
| Outsider - handle | Outsider | Oct 19, 2007, 11:56 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: again to Karen | andrew | Oct 19, 2007, 10:35 am |
| RE: Observation | Outsider (not anymore!) | Oct 19, 2007, 10:22 am |
| RE: Response to WalMart and Insurance - Excess Profits Law | BE | Oct 19, 2007, 9:54 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: again to Karen | TB | Oct 19, 2007, 9:46 am |
| RE: RE: RE: again to Karen | Karen | Oct 19, 2007, 8:40 am |
| RE: RE: RE: again to Karen, here is one story..more to come | Karen | Oct 19, 2007, 8:34 am |
| RE: RE: again to Karen | Karen, you stink of BS | Oct 18, 2007, 9:48 pm |
| RE: again to Karen | Karen | Oct 18, 2007, 9:00 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: again to Karen | fireworks | Oct 18, 2007, 5:33 pm |
| RE: RE: again to Karen | Oct 18, 2007, 4:34 pm |
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| RE: again to Karen | fireworks! | Oct 18, 2007, 4:15 pm |
| again to Karen | caffiend | Oct 18, 2007, 2:08 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Andy writing HO policies-PLEASE DISCOUNT? | James Collinger | Oct 18, 2007, 12:29 pm |
| RE: RE: Andy writing HO policies-PLEASE DISCOUNT? | Karen | Oct 18, 2007, 11:09 am |
| RE: RE: Observation | Karl Marx | Oct 18, 2007, 9:11 am |
| RE: Observation | Mr. Notsoobvious | Oct 18, 2007, 8:55 am |
| Observation | Outside looking in | Oct 18, 2007, 8:35 am |
| RE: Andy writing HO policies | youpeoplearedumb | Oct 18, 2007, 8:17 am |
| RE: RE: to Karen and Caffiend | sock | Oct 17, 2007, 7:35 pm |
| Chuck.... | ME | Oct 17, 2007, 3:37 pm |
| RE: Replies to BigD and Pat Beranger | BigD | Oct 17, 2007, 3:35 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Obvious solution | chuck | Oct 17, 2007, 3:24 pm |
| RE: RE: Obvious solution | Mr Obvious | Oct 17, 2007, 3:11 pm |
| RE: Replies to BigD and Pat Beranger | Pat Beranger | Oct 17, 2007, 3:08 pm |
| RE: Obvious solution | Chuck | Oct 17, 2007, 3:04 pm |
| Obvious solution | Mr Obvious | Oct 17, 2007, 2:38 pm |
| To - Pat Beranger and Ratemaker | FL Native / Insurance Broker | Oct 17, 2007, 2:38 pm |
| Replies to BigD and Pat Beranger | TKG | Oct 17, 2007, 2:35 pm |
| RE: My roots... | blondie | Oct 17, 2007, 2:33 pm |
| RE: Response to WalMart and Insurance | Pat Beranger | Oct 17, 2007, 2:16 pm |
| My roots... | blondie | Oct 17, 2007, 2:07 pm |
| Hey Charlie...how about a subpoena for this guy? | BigD | Oct 17, 2007, 2:04 pm |
| Chumps . | Bozo | Oct 17, 2007, 1:45 pm |
| RE: Response to WalMart and Insurance | Ratemaker | Oct 17, 2007, 1:42 pm |
| Two Corrections | Pat Beranger | Oct 17, 2007, 1:39 pm |
| realistic assessment | Rufus | Oct 17, 2007, 1:22 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: Be the Consumer... reply to Karen | MMC | Oct 17, 2007, 1:13 pm |
| Response to WalMart and Insurance | TKG | Oct 17, 2007, 1:07 pm |
| KAREN | TB | Oct 17, 2007, 12:59 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: to Karen | Walmart and Insurance | Oct 17, 2007, 12:45 pm |
| RE: RE: to Karen and Caffiend | ME | Oct 17, 2007, 12:28 pm |
| Reinsurance | Outsider | Oct 17, 2007, 12:16 pm |
| RE: to Karen and Caffiend | TKG | Oct 17, 2007, 11:57 am |
| RE: RE: Be the Consumer... reply to Karen | ME | Oct 17, 2007, 11:38 am |
| RE: Be the Consumer... | Karen | Oct 17, 2007, 11:32 am |
| RE: RE: RE: to Karen | Karen | Oct 17, 2007, 11:30 am |
| RE: Be the Consumer... | Transplanted to Florida | Oct 17, 2007, 11:26 am |
| Be the Consumer... | ME | Oct 17, 2007, 11:19 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: to caffiend | Transplanted to Florida | Oct 17, 2007, 11:16 am |
| A Novel Idea.. | Bill | Oct 17, 2007, 11:11 am |
| regarding those assessments | caffiend | Oct 17, 2007, 11:06 am |
| RE: RE: to Karen | caffiend | Oct 17, 2007, 10:57 am |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: to caffiend | Karen | Oct 17, 2007, 10:54 am |
| RE: RE: RE: to caffiend | Transplanted to Florida | Oct 17, 2007, 10:26 am |
| RE: blondie, you roots are showing! | Transplanted to Florida | Oct 17, 2007, 10:23 am |
| RE: RE: to caffiend | Mark | Oct 17, 2007, 10:03 am |
| blondie, you roots are showing! | Karen | Oct 17, 2007, 9:57 am |
| RE: Snake Farm | Mark | Oct 17, 2007, 9:48 am |
| RE: to caffiend | Karen | Oct 17, 2007, 9:46 am |
| RE: It has to be said... | J | Oct 17, 2007, 9:35 am |
| It has to be said... | blondie | Oct 17, 2007, 8:56 am |
| to Karen | caffiend | Oct 17, 2007, 8:35 am |
| Allstate | Mark | Oct 17, 2007, 8:01 am |
| ALLSTATE | TB | Oct 17, 2007, 7:19 am |
| RE: RE: RE: Already waving goodbye to Allstate | SWFL Mark | Oct 17, 2007, 7:04 am |
| RE: RE: Allstate's rates | TFH | Oct 17, 2007, 6:45 am |
| Snake Farm | Scott | Oct 16, 2007, 8:49 pm |
| Respond to Karen - making or losing billions | Kent | Oct 16, 2007, 8:21 pm |
| RE: RE: respond to Kathy | Karen | Oct 16, 2007, 7:05 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: This is a good thing- government needs t | Karen | Oct 16, 2007, 7:01 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: This is a good thing- government needs t | Karen | Oct 16, 2007, 7:00 pm |
| RE: Availability vs. Price | AL | Oct 16, 2007, 6:46 pm |
| RE: respond to Kathy | Kent | Oct 16, 2007, 6:06 pm |
| RE: Don't worry about this. | sara | Oct 16, 2007, 5:48 pm |
| Don't worry about this. | Hillary | Oct 16, 2007, 5:36 pm |
| RE: Allstate vs Florida | really | Oct 16, 2007, 5:33 pm |
| Andy writing HO policies | foo foo fighter | Oct 16, 2007, 5:19 pm |
| Allstate vs Florida | Gary B | Oct 16, 2007, 4:56 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: This is a good thing- government needs to be | caffiend | Oct 16, 2007, 4:27 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: RE: This is a good thing- government needs to be | Andy | Oct 16, 2007, 4:22 pm |
| RE: RE: RE: This is a good thing- government needs to be edu | Kathy | Oct 16, 2007, 4:16 pm |
| RE: Already waving goodbye to Allstate | Karen | Oct 16, 2007, 4:08 pm |
| RE: RE: This is a good thing- government needs to be educate | Kent | Oct 16, 2007, 4:04 pm |
| RE: RE: Already waving goodbye to Allstate | caffiend | Oct 16, 2007, 4:00 pm |
| RE: RE: This is a good thing | Karen | Oct 16, 2007, 3:58 pm |
| RE: Allstate's rates | TKG | Oct 16, 2007, 3:19 pm |
| Already waving goodbye to Allstate | caffiend | Oct 16, 2007, 3:15 pm |
| RE: RE: This is a good thing | Concerned Citizens | Oct 16, 2007, 3:15 pm |
| Allstate's rates | SJM | Oct 16, 2007, 3:14 pm |
| RE: This is a good thing | Percy | Oct 16, 2007, 3:11 pm |
| RE: Do you smell that? | WooWooWoo | Oct 16, 2007, 3:08 pm |
| RE: This is a good thing | SLMPT | Oct 16, 2007, 3:07 pm |
| Mmm... | CLR | Oct 16, 2007, 3:04 pm |
| RE: Do you smell that? | Pat Beranger | Oct 16, 2007, 2:58 pm |
| Do you smell that? | JR | Oct 16, 2007, 2:54 pm |
| This is a good thing | LLCJ | Oct 16, 2007, 2:44 pm |
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Subject: RE: to Karen and Caffiend
First of all, we all know that Insurance Premiums increase with increased risk. Car insurance premiums are higher based on the geographical area you live in, the type of car you drive, how many miles you commute daily, your driving record, etc. The higher the risk, the higher the premium. So, consequently we have to figure those premiums into our budget based on the choices we make. For example if you get a DUI, then chances are your premiums increase. You drive a $60K car and your premiums are higher. As homeowners in Florida we expect the premiums to be based on the risk and we figure that into our overall budget. However, the problem in Florida is that the premiums have increased so much and at such a rapid rate that families can't keep up with the increases. You have to look at the profits of insurance companies over a period of time. There were many many years that their losses were low which gave them the opportunity to build their reserves in the event of large losses. The issue as it relates to the original news release is that the Insurance Companies have continued to raise their rates without adjusting for reinsurance. They have also not decreased premiums for those homeowners that made repairs/upgrades to make their homes less vulnerable to losses. Hurricane clips, new roofs, shutters, etc. They have also continued to carve out losses by increasing hurricane deductibles based on a percentage of the policy limits. You share the risk - if you live in a $500K home, your hurricane deductible is higher than if you live in a $100K home. That seems fair enough. Overall the homeowner is now paying more premium for less coverage. On top of that, all of the hurricane related claims have not been paid. I personally am still fighting to be paid for a new roof that was damaged in the 3 Hurricanes of 2004.
Here are a few thoughts to add to the conversation. If premiums are based on risk, should a person that is higher risk be charged more for their health insurance premium? If a person chooses to overeat, abuse alcohol or smoke be charged more? We know that the loss ratio on these people will be higher due to more medical claims. If a person has a family history of diabetes, heart disease or an inherited disorder, should their health insurance premium be higher? In the past, insurance companies looked at the group of insured as a whole and not the individual. Should my health insurance premium be higher because someone else smokes, drinks, over eats? I think we need to look at Homeowners coverage in the same way. You have to look at the loss ratio as a whole and not the individual market.