National Agents Alliance? Legit or Keep Away?

[naafan]

NATIONAL AGENTS ALLIANCE IS WONDERFUL. I have been withhtis compabny for 4 months and could not be happier. I follow the system and am on track to make $100+ this year on only 10 months. I love this company. They have the best managers and support team in the world. They have a heart of gold and share it with everyone. Anyone wanting to make a living and make a difference should look very hard at this company. They have it all.

[boxerdog]

Drafted money for leads not purchased??? That's never happened to me. What are the details? Or is this another one of those lies from drinking the Loser Kool-Aid?

Do this...Investigate those charges, and post the details of them. (Remember, you don't always get charged the very instant that you buy something...LOL) How about a straight answer for once? I still haven't gotten one.

(And you all know, when there's no straight answers to my questions, it means they can't back up what they say...which most likely means it's not true. Stay away from the Loser Kool-Aid everone.)

How has it been going Pontiac?

[Man from McKavett]

Sounds a lot of folks compare business opportunities to "Scams," "Pyramids," or "MLMs." And, they speak of most MLMs as a
scam or a pyramid, and none of the above seem to ever work out for anybody, and everybody looses money. Look, a job is a job-You go to work, clock in, perform your daily tasks/assignments/duties, what ever you call 'em. These are the things your employer requires of you in order for you to earn your check. Nothing wrong with any of that-it works very well for millions of Americans every day ! However, there are those Americans that have the entrepenuer spirit & want more than a job-they want an opportunity to create a little better life style for them & the family than what the "job" will ever offer them. So they enroll & invest in an MLM/Networking Business-Both the person working a job, and the entrepenuer have a responsibility in order for the job or the MLM to work - They have to work the job or the MLM - Business is business is business - Makes no diference if the business you're in is a job or an MLM, you gotta work 'em or they fail-If I gave you a brick and mortar business selling shoes in the mall-If, key word here, IF, you don't treat that business as a business and work it like a business requires in order to produce a living for you, then that business is going to fail !!!! Same goes for MLMs/Networking opportunities !! And I could almost guarantee that a majority, not all, but a majority of the people complaining that MLMs are scams, rip offs, pyramids, etc., failed simply because they did not work the MLM in the same manner they would work at a regular job !!! Even in an MLM, you HAVE to work it everyday same as you do a job, only difference is, you're your own boss & you don't have to commute back and forth to work every day. You still gotta put in the time and effort or it fails, regardles if it's a job or an MLM !!!

[Man from McKavett]

In my previous message regarding NAA Legit or Keep Away, I talked about jobs vs. MLMs and how so many folks think MLMs are scams, ripoffs, pyramids, etc, and nobody makes money except those at the top-I have a very good friend that's been an Amway distributor for many many years and he makes an excellent living at it ! However, there are people that still say Amway is a scam, ripoff, pyramid, etc. Amway has been in business over 50 years, generates 8 billion in revenues a year, is debt free and has 100s of thousands of distributors worldwide. They paved the way for all the MLMs of today-They did so by spending a lot of money and a lot of time in court PROVING they are NOT a pyramid, and proving their system of recruiting & compensation works. Does it work for everybody that joins ? No, absolutely not. Why not? Because many of the folks that join, hardly ever, if ever, treat it like you're supposed to treat a business-you gotta work it every day same as you do a regular job.

[cecnjohn]

Hi,

I was with NAA for about 2 years. I did learn a lot about sales but at a cost. I never did make any real money and I did consistently complete their weekly success formula. The biggest part I did not like was the ethical issue. Their product is marketed as mortgage protection insurance. I found after a while that people actually believed they were required to have this as part of their mortgage. I lost several policies after writing due to this fact. Clients would say I already have life insurance. The ironic part is, that's exactly what I was writing but couldn't tell them. Just wish I figured this out before I spent thousands of dollars on leads. This company is for some, but my conscience couldn't handle it.

[Cassie]

Hi guys,

Is it possible to switch downlines with NAA? I was hired by someone in another city, but their team is disorganized, and it is confusing and frustrating. I love the people in my town.

I probably shouldn't even be asking this. But thanks if you know anything about this.

[Presl70]

Dallas Viper should go to work for Farmers Ins. They sell the same load of c--p too. Since he believes in Fairy Tales he would fit right in to their organization until he grows up. Wake up boy. This is the realworld not make believe.

[objective guy]

Don't Do It wrote:

andy albright owns another company :
http://www.customercareunit.com/contact.php
this company calls all your clients to replace the insurance after the first year. andy is in it for himself and that is it. chase a fake dream to make his come true. believe what you want, defend it but you can try it out for a year or two and then you will be posting on this site.


This makes is sound like Albright has created another "pyramid" scheme to suck off of his other "pyramid" scheme, right? I invited you to click on the link that Don't Do It posted. It will indeed take you to a site called CCU whose stated objective is to help people file for claims they didn't know they had. Now click the home tab and where does it lead you? To the NAA website. CCU is nothing more than a support arm of the National Agents Alliance.

I'm just starting in NAA, but I've done my research. There's some negative stuff out there, but there's plenty of positive stuff too. Most of the negative is about having to purchase leads and making managers rich of the work of those below them. Those objections are nonsense. Every corporation in America does that. But with NAA, you don't have to wait until someone else decides you should move up the ladder. You do that on your own, through your own efforts. The other objection that I've seen is over-priced policies and deceptive marketing practices. I quit being a lawyer because of things I was required to do that did not sit well with me morally. I left car sales because of the deceptive marketing prices and if I ever find that NAA uses them I'll leave them too. Too early to tell on that one because I'm so new, but from the brief training I've had, it is a purely "no-pressure" presentation of options....not a sales pitch.

[helenanana]

I have read literally every single post on this forum plus dozens of other comments on sites regarding NAA and the big question about if it's a scam or legit.

I am left completely confused.
There has been a lot of consistency with the complaints and warnings. And definitely a lot more cons than pros. It also seems that the people who do talk highly of the company either seem brainwashed or screaming SCAM.

Did anyone notice how sweet and humble 'Pontiac' started and then completely changed after his four month glorified experience as an NAA member!? I found that strange. Even though I enjoyed reading up on his progress. I was sad to see him turn into such a drone and a very vague one for that matter.

Anyway, I applied to an an add on craigslist and got a call about a week later about the job. The man on the phone was very nice and personable. We met in person to talk more about the position. Still very nice, professional, and dedicated to mentoring me. I have a good feeling about his company that he is trying to build.

I am a 23 year old female, full time student looking for a part time job to pay bills and save a litte. I like money, but I am not trying to make 100k or build my own business. I rather just get my feet wet, make a nice amount of money and keep away from the 'kool-aid' and the 'friends' I might make along the way.

I feel that this could be a good starter opportunity because of the free leads in the beginning and the help from someone above me. Can that be all it is? Can I take it like that and come out with a positive experience?

I hate that the people trying to save NAA's a$$ with positive comments refer to the negative ones as the 'losers' or the people who didn't work hard.... but on the other hand, I have worked in the restaurant business since I was 14 and I can say from experience that the majority of the people who go out of their way to leave terrible comments are the ones who are either miserable or just completely picky about unnecessary things.

I am trying to stay in the middle. I have been to the Amway meetings, and I absolutely hated it. I actually hate sales jobs. I am only semi-interested because people have supposedly already inquired about a protection plan before I call. So it seems like more of a benefit for everyone than a way for me to make quick sales. There might be some scamming involved (call me heartless) but that's not my biggest concern. Let's be honest, there is some scam in everything these days. So the guy at the top makes more than me. So I am selling something that someone showed interest in. I am a genuine and nice person. I am trying to make some money. I don't care about the guy above me making more and I can only care so much about the person who is interested in a protection plan, but didn't do their research for a better opportunity and in return will be paying a little more. In my opinion, that's like anything in life. I am though concerned about making people feel secure. So another good thing about this job is helping cover people incase of a crisis.

Anyway,

I would really love some feedback on a person who joined recently, and has been taking it in with a leveled head.

I haven't gotten licensed yet. I am actually going to a meeting tomorrow night and based on that I will see what my next move is. I have written down a bunch of questions I want to ask the manager. I am persuaded so easily though, and I believe that he will justify any concern that I have. It's scary to have to make a decision with all of this controversy. But how else will I really find out.

I just can't trust all that I am reading. Most of it is biased from what I have read. I do appreciate the ones that stay focused on the matter, stick to the facts and tell it like it is. Thank you. You kept me wondering.

Let's keep this forum going!
Or, if you want to speak more or give some personal advice my email: Stefmusto@gmail.com

PS - I am looking for the nontypical 9-5 desk job. I love that NAA offers that opportunity. If NAA SUCKS then what is out there that is better? Any advice is appreciated...

EDIT: Just so you know- I will keep updating my personal experience. We need more of those to get a more accurate reading on this hazy company.

[jackwehoca]

You answered all your concerns in two sentences: "I actually hate sales jobs. I am only semi-interested because people have supposedly already inquired about a protection plan before I call".

[MarcMeyers]

I would not recommend NAA.

Best to do your homework and find a broker that offers 100% + in commissions and renewals.

[MarcMeyers]

NATIONAL AGENTS ALLIANCE IS WONDERFUL. I have been withhtis compabny for 4 months and could not be happier. I follow the system and am on track to make $100+ this year on only 10 months. I love this company. They have the best managers and support team in the world. They have a heart of gold and share it with everyone. Anyone wanting to make a living and make a difference should look very hard at this company. They have it all.

Sounds like a sales pitch from NAA. I've never heard any agent be positive about their experience with them.

[dont do it]

This company is a bunch of scumbags and here is some good proof. Michael Bettencourt is one of NAA's best producers. Rising Star ... all that BS. He is direct to Shawn Meaike who is direct to Andy Albright himself. They train you to be extremely aggressive, they forge signatures on delivery requirements and amendments etc... they look out for themselves.
Here is a report from the NH Government website detailing how much of a dirtbag these NAA agents are and some of their sales tactics.....
http://www.nh.gov/insurance/legal/enfor ... 008-ap.pdf

[shawninnebraska]

I work with NAA. With no recruiting and only selling I made $50,000 net my first year. And will make about $85,000 this year. I do not have a team selling, this is all personal production. I live in Nebraska, where there is not huge premiums like on some areas on the coast. So there is no reason you shouldn't be able to make good money here. I work about 25-30 hours a week (but I do work, which is where I believe most people fall short in this business). I do not know how people think it is a scacm. I have been in it for over 2 years now. I have made money, nobody has taken money from me. I really enjoy it and the company. If it doesn't work, or is a scam, why does it work for me and I have not been scammed?

I also want to clarify something I read in soe of the posts. When a chargback occurs, NAA does not get that money. It goes to the insurance carrier that you wrote the policy with. I have charge backs. They are not a big deal. Sone money is taken out of my commission check to pay it off whe it does happen. It is not something that happens that often.

[surestart12345]

After reading a number of these posts does any decently smart insurance person think that this is the answer to more income? OMG...it doesn't take a genius to figure out exactly what is going on here. Expensive leads, a 'system' and sales funnel that is more of a Mary Kay program than anything else and really more of a MLM than a professional IMO or General Agency. There's enough top of the line professional sources out there with good programs for agents. Real declining payout/declining premium mortgage term insurance policies are a thing of the past because the rates for term insurance have gone way down in recent years. I'M REALLY GLAD THERE ARE INSURANCE BLOGS LIKE THIS...cause i would've taken so much of my valuable time figuring out this NAA thing...and within 5 minutes of reading a few blogs, it gave me the basic 'flavor' of what this opportunity is all about.
I would say a big "KEEP AWAY!"