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Agencies Underpay CSRs, Overpay Producers, Argues Consultant Bates at 1752 Club Meeting

The reason independent agencies struggle to attract customer service representatives (CSRs) is that agencies just do not pay them enough. Instead,agencies overpay their producers.

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Consultant Virginia Bates thought she would be jeered after expressing this opinion at a recent meeting in Framingham, Mass. Fortunately, the meeting was the New England 1752 Club, the industry's oldest continuously operated trade association comprised mainly of field representatives for insurance companies, although some agencies were represented.

Bates of VMB Associates, Inc. in Melrose, Mass. spoke to the field representatives and guests on the widespread industry problem of "Why We Cannot Find CSRs Out There" and offered possible solutions.

"The people are out there. There are good people graduating and working to whom insurance would be a step up," Bates maintained.

Why aren't they lined up to work at insurance agencies? "Because we don't pay enough," she answered.

Bates noted that good CSRs must have a combination of traits and skills that can be difficult to find in one person For example, they must have some math ability but also be empathetic; they must be able to deal with complex isuses yet explain them in simple terms.

"In other industries they can do much better," maintained Bates.

Bates anticipated the logical question of where agencies are supposed to get the money to pay CSRs more. "There's plenty of money in most agencies," she said. "but it's put in the wrong places. They're paying producers too much."

She added that agents have a "natural empathy" with producers.

She advised that agencies must "change the dynamics" to find ways to pay CSRs more and stop rewarding producers so much for renewals that are really handled by CSRs.

"CSRs are seething over producers getting four or five times what they are getting. Why would someone want that? We lose people who 'get it,'" said Bates, who acknowledged that her recipe amounted to "deep surgery" for the agency system.

But for agencies that have made the change, "It's heaven," she maintained..

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RE: RE: HOW MUCH TO PAY THE PRODUCER???-Response to Kathy kok
Apr 26, 2004, 2:47 pm
To "Been There Done That" Mark
Apr 22, 2004, 7:54 am
Response to Tracy
Apr 22, 2004, 6:53 am
Response to "Been there done that", unrelated to article Tracy
Apr 21, 2004, 4:10 pm
Been There Done That
Apr 21, 2004, 2:25 pm
RE: article Been there done that
Apr 21, 2004, 1:00 pm
CSR's Underpaid
Apr 20, 2004, 10:28 pm
Service Sells Not Just A CSR
Apr 20, 2004, 10:08 pm
Compensation Worries DMC
Apr 20, 2004, 6:19 pm
To Carolyn Jan Jesberger
Apr 20, 2004, 2:26 pm
RE: RE: V.Bates article Carolyn
Apr 20, 2004, 1:34 pm
Response to "Wayne" Theresa
Apr 20, 2004, 1:12 pm
RE: RE: RE: V.Bates article Marsha McLaurin, CPCU
Apr 20, 2004, 11:07 am
RE: To: Lisa Golden Jan Jesberger
Apr 20, 2004, 10:25 am
To: Lisa Golden & Matt Karen
Apr 20, 2004, 8:59 am
V Bates Producer Compensation/CSR Compensation Karen
Apr 20, 2004, 8:52 am
CSR's Underpaid by Agency Mary
Apr 20, 2004, 8:48 am
To: Lisa Golden Matt
Apr 20, 2004, 1:53 am
RE: this is to faye abdul
Apr 19, 2004, 9:10 pm
CSR's VS Producers Robert
Apr 19, 2004, 8:44 pm
RE: Underpaid CSR'S abdul
Apr 19, 2004, 8:43 pm
RE: RE: RE: HOW MUCH TO PAY THE PRODUCER??? jay-sims
Apr 19, 2004, 8:04 pm
RE: RE: HOW MUCH TO PAY THE PRODUCER??? Jay sims
Apr 19, 2004, 8:02 pm
RE: V.Bates article Faye
Apr 19, 2004, 5:17 pm
RE: V.Bates article Thomas Wright
Apr 19, 2004, 5:03 pm
RE: RE: V.Bates article Jack J Maniscalco
Apr 19, 2004, 4:14 pm
RE: RE: V.Bates article Julius
Apr 19, 2004, 4:07 pm
RE: HOW MUCH TO PAY THE PRODUCER??? Kathy
Apr 19, 2004, 3:46 pm
RE: RE: RE: V.Bates article - by the Robin
Apr 19, 2004, 2:58 pm
RE: V.Bates article Wayne
Apr 19, 2004, 2:55 pm
RE: Underpaid CSR'S Rodger
Apr 19, 2004, 2:52 pm
Underpaid CSR'S Lisa Golden
Apr 19, 2004, 2:39 pm
RE: Compensation Bob
Apr 19, 2004, 2:38 pm
overpaid cobbs nixon
Apr 19, 2004, 8:15 am
Producer vs. CSR Compensation Mark
Apr 19, 2004, 7:57 am
Compensation Matt
Apr 19, 2004, 3:16 am
RE: RE: V.Bates article - by the "producer" CSR
Apr 16, 2004, 3:43 pm
RE: V.Bates article Producer
Apr 16, 2004, 3:25 pm
Producers Over Paid Producer
Apr 16, 2004, 3:20 pm
Producers are overpaid! SALVATORE LUNDY
Apr 16, 2004, 3:05 pm
RE: V.Bates article --right on! Ann
Apr 16, 2004, 2:44 pm
HOW MUCH TO PAY THE PRODUCER??? KEVIN
Apr 16, 2004, 2:35 pm
RE: RE: More to this Theresa
Apr 16, 2004, 1:43 pm
Equal pay for important jobs Jessica Lee
Apr 16, 2004, 1:39 pm
RE: RE: More to this Matt
Apr 16, 2004, 1:37 pm
RE: More to this Robert
Apr 16, 2004, 1:27 pm
More to this Bob
Apr 16, 2004, 1:08 pm
RE: V.Bates article Theresa
Apr 16, 2004, 1:01 pm
Underpaid CSRs Beth
Apr 16, 2004, 12:55 pm
RE: RE: V.Bates article Kelsey Wood
Apr 16, 2004, 12:43 pm
CSR's Underpaid / Producers Overpaid Laura
Apr 16, 2004, 12:35 pm
RE: V.Bates article K Grimsley
Apr 16, 2004, 8:51 am
V.Bates article "Underpay CSR's,Overpay Producers" Louise D. Neigel
Apr 16, 2004, 7:04 am