How many of the people that signed the petition got tickets? Sorry, If she hadn’t been going 66 in a 45 she wouldn’t be in this mess. Guess if it costs her a small fortune she won’t do it again.
I’m all for it. Bring it to Fla. If the 100mph club membership cost $5000 instead of $700 there’d be a lot less people trying to join it. (and yes, they call it that because so many people are going over 100 now down here)
Well, i think u need to rethink that option of it’s ok for the fees to be raised for VA only…..what if those fees you have were for FL only residents? i used to live in fl, and all applicable fees were fair to everyone…did not matter what state ur license is in…
now, back to VA, many of our residents don’t actually come fm VA…there are major military installations, where most of the military and spouses don’t have a VA lic, but a different state…why shud they be treated any differently? equality is the real component here….the legistlature knew that if they raised taxes, the residents of the state would have voted it down…it’s becoming a bad issue that when things need to be fixed, they think that the people of money…many of us just make it from payday to payday…so they decided to make the committed offenses to pay, but increasing the fines and then make the fines heavier for the folks that have va resident… WHOA! how many folks drive our roads? how many miles are driven by the truckers (i used to be one of those OTR’s)? there is one town i know, that even if you go 1 mile over the speed limit, u’ll get a ticket…in most cases, they know that folks will pay the fine since the town sits on the border of VA/NC (Emporia, Va)…my problem is not just the equity of the law, but what makes it ok for the policeman to enforce it when they don’t follow the law themselves!! here’s the farce in the situation — those that are supposed to enforce the laws, break them at will w/o regard to proper use of their vehicle to prevent incidences. i have driven on many occassion behind a state trooper w/o lights whom is traveling 80 miles plus, when the speed limit is only 55 or even 65. they are no better at breaking the law. can we give them a ticket? can we have them pay a higher fee because they are supposed to enforce the proper law?
again: equalilty under the law for all citizens and not based on what state you live in…ensure that the money spent is spent correctly on a hwy project and not have to be redone, because the engineers made a mistake costing the state more money or the taxpayers in this case because both the state engineers and company engineers made mistakes…state needs to ensure that money is spent correctly…let’s not give it away…not like the federal government does when it sends relief funding to other nations. and you wonder why the government has a red balance book/DEFECIT. we forgive nations of their debt, but we still are in the negative.
so back to the issue, instead of the taxes, the decided on fines to cover the same items. but instead higher fines for those residents of VA…NOT VERY COOL IDEA!
IMHO, the issue is that if the penalty were severe enough, less people would be more inclined to risk it. In OK if you’re stopped with no insurance, your car belongs to the state to be sold at auction. That would take appx 30% of the vehicles off the roads in Fla. $5000 for going over 100 would make at least a portion of the people in the 100 club slow down. Down here, no ins is only a $500 fine as opposed to $2500 ins premium. You can guess how many people down here go without.
Driving w/out a license? Since it’s apparently ‘cruel and inhumane’ to send them to jail until they kill someone, fine them $10,000.
Do I believe it should be across the board? Yes. Will that ever happen? I doubt it. But since I’ve been hit twice while sitting still and one driver had no insurance and one wasn’t even given a ticket, I’m all for seeing the fees make it NOT worth the risk down here.
If you’re not speeding, running a red light, driving with no ins or license, you’re not going to pay the fines. And if it meant my taxes went down? Sign me up!
I Signed the petition and have not been pulled over in a little over 4 years now. I believe that the petition and tendency to violate the regulations of the road is not a sound reason to argue for the fees. As a now more experienced driver I leave earlier don’t drive as fast, pay closer attention, etc. But the arguements made in VA for the repeal of this law that I also signed the petition for listed in the article are plain, the economical implications of this law in a state like VA will end up being disasterous for some lower income families/individuals. Property tax, registration fees, car payment, insurance(most companies in VA use a credit based insurance score) and if you happend to get pulled over a ridiculous fine awaits you. Driving in the state of VA is a priviledge and for most a necessity. Not to sound Marxist on purpose, this is another tool that will serve to divide the classes. This would most probably be supported judicially if the law is not repealed, the individual that is affluent will get a lawyer, and most probably beat the rap on this, a person of lower income will have to debate, go into debt by hiring a lawyer to defend and risk losing or pay the fine in the 3 years. The state will place a lien on the car if the fine is not paid, and it just gets worse for these individuals. That just shows how the fine can hurt an individual, then you look at the raise in insurance, for those that state the fines are a deterrent, what are rising insurancance costs, chopped liver? I disagree with the fines because of the overall damage that they can do to this commonwealths’ residents.
However, if the state needs to raise funds through fining for traffic violations increase the current fines in the state and charge everyone, we are all equal in the eyes of the law. I feel this way especially because of DC and MD who complain about VA roads, but both these states have issues with their own, if they want to complain about our roads and speed on them, drive recklessly on them or drive while suspended in their home state and they get caught in VA they can help to pay for the roads they complain about. I could go on, but I have work to do
Driving is a priviledge in all 50 STATES! It is not a right. Problem we have is like Dawn was saying, many folks will rather drive w/o insurance or license for that matter. Major issue, is what to do w/folks who keep getting in trouble; either no insurance or abiding by the law. But when we deal with the issue, it has to be equal to all drivers not to any particular state. Let me give you an example of this: In the trucking industry (I used to be an OTR Driver Trainer), road taxes are paid to each state we drive in based on the amount of miles drive (usually, based on the amount of fuel). That money is share between states accordingly. Well, now, if i happen to reside in VA, but i get a ticket in another state – would that affect that higher premium I need to have when I renew my license? I thought the law stated if it was a VA ticket. UM…..many issues are coming to light because those folks driving from a different state, they don’t face those issues. Now, when it comes to insurance — rates will go up pending on the amount of tickets/type and accidents. I do agree that VA roads are in terrible shape and that the functionality of the roads within a certain area (HAMPTON ROADS for example) are terrible. HRBT (Hampto Roads Bridge Tunnel) has caused so many major issues its pathetic. People are so much in a hurry to drive (way over the speed limit) but yet, come upon the tunnel and they slow down to 25-35 vs speed limit 55. You get to the other side of the tunnel and wala, nobody there. It’s because of the slow down in the tunnel we get accidents and the time extended driving increase from 30 mins to even over 2.5 hrs. We do need better roads and functionality of them but at what costs? I think fines are great way to establish that, even increase them. But, let’s be fair that all drivers are treated the same. I like the idea that in North Carolina that just to get a DRIVER’S LICENSE OR PERMIT, they need to show insurance whether they have a vehicle or not. So where do we go from here? Question of the Century! I think it’s right to increase fines to an extent but too far out there that it exceeds the crime that was committed. Make the fine even across the board, not just make increases in certain areas because they live in VA vs anywhere else. Secondly, when they design a roadway system, no more loopholes in getting projects done or missing items that costs taxpayers more money. Either take it out of the construction company if they are not ontime. Or find another way within the state budget for the error they costs the drivers to live with a burdening situation.
How many of the people that signed the petition got tickets? Sorry, If she hadn’t been going 66 in a 45 she wouldn’t be in this mess. Guess if it costs her a small fortune she won’t do it again.
I’m all for it. Bring it to Fla. If the 100mph club membership cost $5000 instead of $700 there’d be a lot less people trying to join it. (and yes, they call it that because so many people are going over 100 now down here)
Well, i think u need to rethink that option of it’s ok for the fees to be raised for VA only…..what if those fees you have were for FL only residents? i used to live in fl, and all applicable fees were fair to everyone…did not matter what state ur license is in…
now, back to VA, many of our residents don’t actually come fm VA…there are major military installations, where most of the military and spouses don’t have a VA lic, but a different state…why shud they be treated any differently? equality is the real component here….the legistlature knew that if they raised taxes, the residents of the state would have voted it down…it’s becoming a bad issue that when things need to be fixed, they think that the people of money…many of us just make it from payday to payday…so they decided to make the committed offenses to pay, but increasing the fines and then make the fines heavier for the folks that have va resident… WHOA! how many folks drive our roads? how many miles are driven by the truckers (i used to be one of those OTR’s)? there is one town i know, that even if you go 1 mile over the speed limit, u’ll get a ticket…in most cases, they know that folks will pay the fine since the town sits on the border of VA/NC (Emporia, Va)…my problem is not just the equity of the law, but what makes it ok for the policeman to enforce it when they don’t follow the law themselves!! here’s the farce in the situation — those that are supposed to enforce the laws, break them at will w/o regard to proper use of their vehicle to prevent incidences. i have driven on many occassion behind a state trooper w/o lights whom is traveling 80 miles plus, when the speed limit is only 55 or even 65. they are no better at breaking the law. can we give them a ticket? can we have them pay a higher fee because they are supposed to enforce the proper law?
again: equalilty under the law for all citizens and not based on what state you live in…ensure that the money spent is spent correctly on a hwy project and not have to be redone, because the engineers made a mistake costing the state more money or the taxpayers in this case because both the state engineers and company engineers made mistakes…state needs to ensure that money is spent correctly…let’s not give it away…not like the federal government does when it sends relief funding to other nations. and you wonder why the government has a red balance book/DEFECIT. we forgive nations of their debt, but we still are in the negative.
so back to the issue, instead of the taxes, the decided on fines to cover the same items. but instead higher fines for those residents of VA…NOT VERY COOL IDEA!
IMHO, the issue is that if the penalty were severe enough, less people would be more inclined to risk it. In OK if you’re stopped with no insurance, your car belongs to the state to be sold at auction. That would take appx 30% of the vehicles off the roads in Fla. $5000 for going over 100 would make at least a portion of the people in the 100 club slow down. Down here, no ins is only a $500 fine as opposed to $2500 ins premium. You can guess how many people down here go without.
Driving w/out a license? Since it’s apparently ‘cruel and inhumane’ to send them to jail until they kill someone, fine them $10,000.
Do I believe it should be across the board? Yes. Will that ever happen? I doubt it. But since I’ve been hit twice while sitting still and one driver had no insurance and one wasn’t even given a ticket, I’m all for seeing the fees make it NOT worth the risk down here.
If you’re not speeding, running a red light, driving with no ins or license, you’re not going to pay the fines. And if it meant my taxes went down? Sign me up!
I Signed the petition and have not been pulled over in a little over 4 years now. I believe that the petition and tendency to violate the regulations of the road is not a sound reason to argue for the fees. As a now more experienced driver I leave earlier don’t drive as fast, pay closer attention, etc. But the arguements made in VA for the repeal of this law that I also signed the petition for listed in the article are plain, the economical implications of this law in a state like VA will end up being disasterous for some lower income families/individuals. Property tax, registration fees, car payment, insurance(most companies in VA use a credit based insurance score) and if you happend to get pulled over a ridiculous fine awaits you. Driving in the state of VA is a priviledge and for most a necessity. Not to sound Marxist on purpose, this is another tool that will serve to divide the classes. This would most probably be supported judicially if the law is not repealed, the individual that is affluent will get a lawyer, and most probably beat the rap on this, a person of lower income will have to debate, go into debt by hiring a lawyer to defend and risk losing or pay the fine in the 3 years. The state will place a lien on the car if the fine is not paid, and it just gets worse for these individuals. That just shows how the fine can hurt an individual, then you look at the raise in insurance, for those that state the fines are a deterrent, what are rising insurancance costs, chopped liver? I disagree with the fines because of the overall damage that they can do to this commonwealths’ residents.
However, if the state needs to raise funds through fining for traffic violations increase the current fines in the state and charge everyone, we are all equal in the eyes of the law. I feel this way especially because of DC and MD who complain about VA roads, but both these states have issues with their own, if they want to complain about our roads and speed on them, drive recklessly on them or drive while suspended in their home state and they get caught in VA they can help to pay for the roads they complain about. I could go on, but I have work to do
Driving is a priviledge in all 50 STATES! It is not a right. Problem we have is like Dawn was saying, many folks will rather drive w/o insurance or license for that matter. Major issue, is what to do w/folks who keep getting in trouble; either no insurance or abiding by the law. But when we deal with the issue, it has to be equal to all drivers not to any particular state. Let me give you an example of this: In the trucking industry (I used to be an OTR Driver Trainer), road taxes are paid to each state we drive in based on the amount of miles drive (usually, based on the amount of fuel). That money is share between states accordingly. Well, now, if i happen to reside in VA, but i get a ticket in another state – would that affect that higher premium I need to have when I renew my license? I thought the law stated if it was a VA ticket. UM…..many issues are coming to light because those folks driving from a different state, they don’t face those issues. Now, when it comes to insurance — rates will go up pending on the amount of tickets/type and accidents. I do agree that VA roads are in terrible shape and that the functionality of the roads within a certain area (HAMPTON ROADS for example) are terrible. HRBT (Hampto Roads Bridge Tunnel) has caused so many major issues its pathetic. People are so much in a hurry to drive (way over the speed limit) but yet, come upon the tunnel and they slow down to 25-35 vs speed limit 55. You get to the other side of the tunnel and wala, nobody there. It’s because of the slow down in the tunnel we get accidents and the time extended driving increase from 30 mins to even over 2.5 hrs. We do need better roads and functionality of them but at what costs? I think fines are great way to establish that, even increase them. But, let’s be fair that all drivers are treated the same. I like the idea that in North Carolina that just to get a DRIVER’S LICENSE OR PERMIT, they need to show insurance whether they have a vehicle or not. So where do we go from here? Question of the Century! I think it’s right to increase fines to an extent but too far out there that it exceeds the crime that was committed. Make the fine even across the board, not just make increases in certain areas because they live in VA vs anywhere else. Secondly, when they design a roadway system, no more loopholes in getting projects done or missing items that costs taxpayers more money. Either take it out of the construction company if they are not ontime. Or find another way within the state budget for the error they costs the drivers to live with a burdening situation.