And if Global Warming was real it would be a real problem too! (Don’t say climate change, everyone knows it changes, only those arrogant enough to believe they can project it call it Climate Change!)
We have had a number of discussions on this subject over the years. We have the Al Gore side who said the polar ice caps would be gone by 2014 using failed scientist figures and the other side who say they are all “hot air” with their projections. A recent article said the caps are actually thickening which really flies in their face.
Agent – for the umpteenth time, please remember there are two polar ice caps on this planet and we must look at the levels of both the Antarctic and Arctic ice caps before accurately saying if the earth’s ice caps are either increasing or decreasing. Hint – they are decreasing.
The ice caps aren’t thickening. At some times in year they have been wider than expected, but significantly thinner, meaning there is less volume and less ice. Climate change conspiracy theorists grab onto every study confirming their predetermined beliefs, and explain away the other 99% of studies, e.g. the recent study showing less loss in the Antarctic, which was done with old data, and satellites that cannot do 3d measurements.
Some of the posters on this site must be working for the EPA on the side. Some actually voted for the current President twice. We know all about him with his agenda. I am sure glad he is on the way out.
Bulletin for all those left leaning Progressives on this site:
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’s initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
Abraham Lincoln – A Republican President
Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him had better take a closer look at the American Indian – Henry Ford
agent, do you ever get tired of being wrong? Lincoln said NONE of those things. zero. nada. bupkis. as rosenblatt has said to you many times, stop lying and spreading misinformation.
If you think Lincoln would be a Republican now you are nuts. The Republican Party he was in ceased to exist when they embraced racism, and changed even more when the Southern Democrats, aka the Dixiecrats switched parties to join the GOP, largely due to their disagreement on integration and equal rights for Blacks.
I am sick of reading all this nonsense.
When they start using real, live data as opposed to manipulated computer modeling, I will start listening.
They can’t even predict the weather for tomorrow correctly, notwithstanding all the modern equipment they have available.
I laugh when they say things like ” this is the hottest day on record…….since 1932″….well I guess if it happened in 1932 then man must have been really, really bad then too!!
The data is “real, live” data, whatever …that means. You know by definition all time-series data is not “live”, because it is looking at something over a period of time, right?
They are very good at predicting weather tomorrow, the problem is that dolts like you and Agent don’t understand statistics, or what a 50% chance of rain means.
“I laugh when they say things like ” this is the hottest day on record…….since 1932″….well I guess if it happened in 1932 then man must have been really, really bad then too!!”
Yeah, but it wasn’t warmer every day for decades, and continuing to warm. That is the difference between variance and an outlier.
1. Climate has been changing since time immemorial and will go on changing forever no matter what, mainly in line with solar influences.
2. Scientific evidence abounds that beyond a certain level of carbon in the atmosphere, there is no increased warming. Water vapour in the atmosphere has a warming effect many times greater than that of carbon.
3. To suggest that climate change is anthropogenic is codswallop. To suggest that arthropods have the power to stop the change is even more ludicrous!
SW, why don’t you travel down to Mexico to the new Ford plant they are building and tell them not to dump chemicals? I am sure you will make a good impression assuming you make it back alive.
Ayanda, I don’t know where you are from, but I like the way you talk. As I predicted some weeks ago, the Progressive trolls are going ballistic when I disregard them and don’t answer their insults and garbage posts.
Ayanda, I don’t know where you are from, but I like how you think and how you put things. Clear eyes is a blessing in lieu of the clouded eyes of the Progressive dimwits.
You do realize that when the industrial revolution started, we were in a mini ice age. A mini ice age is defined as having temperatures 3 degrees below global norms. So you are saying since that time, we have only gone up 1 degree. That means we are still 2 degrees below global norms.
While I laughed and agree with Ron’s reply, I also agree with Agent here – that comment Obama made about climate change being one of the most serious national security threats we’re currently facing was asinine.
Our President is about as right on Climate Change as he is on radical Islam. He said he had the “B” team contained and they still managed to pull of the worst attack since 9/11 in Paris. The other leaders in the world seem to be getting it now, just not him.
Many new scientists are now predicting the start of a new mini ice age around 2030 due to sun activities. Any volcanic activity seems to negate anything man does to limit C02. These climate change people are really dufuses and the President is the worst of the lot.
that’s fine agent, we all think you are a dufus too. after all, i can ENSURE you that we work to INSURE our clients’ risks, even though you claimed ensure was not a real word. dufus
He still hasn’t replied to that, or any post making any coherent point anywhere on this site. I think the only excuse for people like him to be as uninformed as they are is what many call functional illiteracy.
And if Global Warming was real it would be a real problem too! (Don’t say climate change, everyone knows it changes, only those arrogant enough to believe they can project it call it Climate Change!)
We have had a number of discussions on this subject over the years. We have the Al Gore side who said the polar ice caps would be gone by 2014 using failed scientist figures and the other side who say they are all “hot air” with their projections. A recent article said the caps are actually thickening which really flies in their face.
Agent – for the umpteenth time, please remember there are two polar ice caps on this planet and we must look at the levels of both the Antarctic and Arctic ice caps before accurately saying if the earth’s ice caps are either increasing or decreasing. Hint – they are decreasing.
The ice caps aren’t thickening. At some times in year they have been wider than expected, but significantly thinner, meaning there is less volume and less ice. Climate change conspiracy theorists grab onto every study confirming their predetermined beliefs, and explain away the other 99% of studies, e.g. the recent study showing less loss in the Antarctic, which was done with old data, and satellites that cannot do 3d measurements.
Some of the posters on this site must be working for the EPA on the side. Some actually voted for the current President twice. We know all about him with his agenda. I am sure glad he is on the way out.
Bulletin for all those left leaning Progressives on this site:
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’s initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
Abraham Lincoln – A Republican President
Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him had better take a closer look at the American Indian – Henry Ford
agent, do you ever get tired of being wrong? Lincoln said NONE of those things. zero. nada. bupkis. as rosenblatt has said to you many times, stop lying and spreading misinformation.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln/prosperity.asp
If you think Lincoln would be a Republican now you are nuts. The Republican Party he was in ceased to exist when they embraced racism, and changed even more when the Southern Democrats, aka the Dixiecrats switched parties to join the GOP, largely due to their disagreement on integration and equal rights for Blacks.
I am sick of reading all this nonsense.
When they start using real, live data as opposed to manipulated computer modeling, I will start listening.
They can’t even predict the weather for tomorrow correctly, notwithstanding all the modern equipment they have available.
I laugh when they say things like ” this is the hottest day on record…….since 1932″….well I guess if it happened in 1932 then man must have been really, really bad then too!!
The data is “real, live” data, whatever …that means. You know by definition all time-series data is not “live”, because it is looking at something over a period of time, right?
They are very good at predicting weather tomorrow, the problem is that dolts like you and Agent don’t understand statistics, or what a 50% chance of rain means.
“I laugh when they say things like ” this is the hottest day on record…….since 1932″….well I guess if it happened in 1932 then man must have been really, really bad then too!!”
Yeah, but it wasn’t warmer every day for decades, and continuing to warm. That is the difference between variance and an outlier.
1. Climate has been changing since time immemorial and will go on changing forever no matter what, mainly in line with solar influences.
2. Scientific evidence abounds that beyond a certain level of carbon in the atmosphere, there is no increased warming. Water vapour in the atmosphere has a warming effect many times greater than that of carbon.
3. To suggest that climate change is anthropogenic is codswallop. To suggest that arthropods have the power to stop the change is even more ludicrous!
Sometimes I think IJ is on the payroll of the Al Gore Foundation for Global Warming. It is just about every week’s business.
SW, why don’t you travel down to Mexico to the new Ford plant they are building and tell them not to dump chemicals? I am sure you will make a good impression assuming you make it back alive.
why are you replying to yourself?
Henry Ford to his plant managers – “Just dump the chemicals in the Detroit river. Any suggestion that it pollutes the water is codswallop”.
Ayanda, I don’t know where you are from, but I like the way you talk. As I predicted some weeks ago, the Progressive trolls are going ballistic when I disregard them and don’t answer their insults and garbage posts.
Ayanda, I don’t know where you are from, but I like how you think and how you put things. Clear eyes is a blessing in lieu of the clouded eyes of the Progressive dimwits.
agent – “free advice: get facts straight, accept legit criticism, develop thick skin, drop childish insults.”
Why are you calling our founding fathers dimwits?
You do realize that when the industrial revolution started, we were in a mini ice age. A mini ice age is defined as having temperatures 3 degrees below global norms. So you are saying since that time, we have only gone up 1 degree. That means we are still 2 degrees below global norms.
Our President has declared that the most serious national security threat is Climate Change. That is about as asinine as it gets.
And then we read your posts and realize there is someone making even more asinine statements.
While I laughed and agree with Ron’s reply, I also agree with Agent here – that comment Obama made about climate change being one of the most serious national security threats we’re currently facing was asinine.
Our President is about as right on Climate Change as he is on radical Islam. He said he had the “B” team contained and they still managed to pull of the worst attack since 9/11 in Paris. The other leaders in the world seem to be getting it now, just not him.
Many new scientists are now predicting the start of a new mini ice age around 2030 due to sun activities. Any volcanic activity seems to negate anything man does to limit C02. These climate change people are really dufuses and the President is the worst of the lot.
that’s fine agent, we all think you are a dufus too. after all, i can ENSURE you that we work to INSURE our clients’ risks, even though you claimed ensure was not a real word. dufus
He still hasn’t replied to that, or any post making any coherent point anywhere on this site. I think the only excuse for people like him to be as uninformed as they are is what many call functional illiteracy.