Family Sues Company Over Minnesota Office Attack

By Amy Forliti | February 5, 2013

  • February 5, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    sandman says:
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    Another attorney trying to make a name for himself with a tragic situation. He also would probably stepped up to sue if the sign company had armed guards there because they thought he was dangerous.
    Its a no win situation but it still isn’t the guns fault.

  • February 5, 2013 at 2:04 pm
    DS says:
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    “…contend that Accent Signage should have known Engeldinger had violent tendencies, was mentally ill and could hurt or even kill others. They say the company also should have known he owned guns, and that the shooting could have been foreseen…”

    How on earth is an employer supposed to know all of that?

    It is tragic. It seems the employer did not go about firing the employee in the best manner, but I don’t think they could have known this would happen.

  • February 5, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    Reagan says:
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    Here is another idiot who blames the gun.

    But yet, what have here is ANOTHER known mentally ill, violent person.

    Why atre the mentally ill not being targeted and only the guns??

    Guns cannot walk into a place and work for 13 yrs because the owner is afraid of them, or because the ridiculous laws that protect guys like him in the first place from being fired stop them, and then open fire by themselves.

    This idiot attroney would be suing on behalf of the shooter for wrongful termination if he had been fired without incident!

  • February 5, 2013 at 2:39 pm
    Insurance is my name says:
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    Why would it be the employers’ responsibility to know whether or not the employee had guns? It’s none of their damn business.

    Just like it is none of your doctor’s damn business to know whether or not you have guns. They only reason why they supposedly need to know now is to tattle to our dear leader. And another thing, your doctor does NOT need to know your social security number or have a copy of your drivers’ license number (which my kids’ pediatrician was trying to get out of me last week. I just laughed at them and told them HELL NO.)

    • February 6, 2013 at 9:58 am
      M. Prankster says:
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      I had to go to an oral surgeon years ago. I was in agony at the time. I left blank my social security number on the patient info. sheet. The doc. would not treat me unless I filled it in.

    • February 7, 2013 at 11:27 am
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      SSN is on the HCFA 1500 – what doctors use to file claims with the health insurance company. Most insurers use SSN to differentiate insureds.

  • February 5, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    Suze says:
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    I feel very sorry for the family for their loss, but this law suit is ridiculous. I know many “bad employees” and I would not figure any of them to be violent. Someone please tell me how to tell someone is going to be violent… that way every victim has someone to sue.
    “They say the company also should have known he owned guns, and that the shooting could have been foreseen.” — owning guns does not make you violent!! Nor should anyone have the right to limit my freedom based on the unlawful actions of someone else!

  • February 5, 2013 at 3:34 pm
    Scott says:
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    Ahhh, yes…..the OTHER side of the Americans With Disability Act (ADA). If this obviously mentally ill person WASN’T hired because of his illness, there would’ve been another lawsuit.

    • February 5, 2013 at 3:39 pm
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      Or here’s another thought: If they had known or suspected he was mentally ill wouldn’t they have had a duty to provide him with medical help before proceeding with termination. That’s been my experience with employees. While I do not agree, I suspect the employer may lose this one.

      • February 5, 2013 at 6:42 pm
        InsGuy says:
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        Come on, really? So the employer has a “duty”, but the family doesn’t? they offered assistance, but he “refused”?

        If anybody had prior alleged knowledge it was them. Did they warn anybody?

        This about finding a pocket to dig into, pure & simple, as always.

        • February 6, 2013 at 3:57 pm
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          I’m sorry Ins Guy, I didn’t intend to imply I agreed with the “duty” issue. I do not. And your point is well taken. My point was that it’s already been established that employers are required to assist employees if a “medical” issue prevents the employee from performing their job.

  • February 5, 2013 at 8:02 pm
    LP says:
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    I agree InsGuy, the family that knew there was a problem is more to blame than the employer.

    And Personally I am sick of everything going back to gun control and the Connecticut shooting. I am heart broken at the circumstances around the school shooting, but jumping on that band wagon and waving that banner over a shooting that occurred months ago is ridiculous. I don’t even remember this case when it happened.

    I just hope that justice will prevail. Either way the ones going to the bank will be the attorneys.

  • February 6, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    DS says:
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    You know, all you people who say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” — would this man have been able to kill 6 people in that amount of time with his bare hands? No. The guns killed the people.

    And I’m sorry, how do you all not care about healthcare and mental health until situations like this and Sandy Hook? Now all of a sudden mental health is SO IMPORTANT to you?? With your desire to shrink government, lower taxes, and abolish the Affordable Care Act, how on earth do you propose solving the mental health crisis in the country?

    Puh-lease.

    • February 7, 2013 at 12:31 pm
      Bob says:
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      One thought that comes to mind is that we used to warehouse these folks in this country to protect the rest of us from them. Now we treat them with extremely strong medications on an out patient basis.

      I read recently tha the one common link between the vast majority of these killers was use of these medications.

      I liked the odds far better when I was a kid and there was no such thing as a mas shooting.

      • February 7, 2013 at 6:22 pm
        Don't Call Me Shirley says:
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        The problem is, if you want to “warehouse these people”. that costs money, but no one wants to pay for it. We have to CUT spending, remember? Unfortunately, the cuts don’t come from oil companies or wealthy individuals getting “subsidies”. The cuts come from mental facilities, and they are turning dangerous people out onto the street. I personally know of someone who should have been kept longer, but wasn’t, because facilities can only afford to keep them for a short time. My wife and I lived in constant fear because of it.

      • February 13, 2013 at 2:04 pm
        WHere did the old days go? says:
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        Bob – i agree with you and your comment about the odds being far better when you were a kid… I also know that Parenting and family has much less importance on them, God is out of Schools, Porn is rampant, and the top two movies in the country just a week ago were TX Chainsaw Massacre and Django… what should we expect?

  • February 13, 2013 at 12:46 pm
    m & m says:
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    I am sorry “DS”, but the gun did not kill. The person using the gun did.

  • February 13, 2013 at 4:23 pm
    Texkraut says:
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    I have owned many guns for many years. Not one of them has ever harmed anyone.



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