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Good for them! Has anyone heard of what’s happeneing to Holly Hobbie? They were under attack as well.
Hobby Lobby
Under attack?! You wackos crack me up.
@AA… Good for who?… The women who now have to pay for their own birth control?….BTW…. 95 % of CATHOLIC women use birth control…. what a crappy crappy thing to have the employees to endure…. To the judges…..”YOU SUCK”.
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Awww, you’re breaking my heart. Hey, I had to pay for my own BC when I was using them ages ago. BC does not server a medical condition and are not “heath care” for most women. Woman who have endometriosis or other HEATH ISSUES should have them paid for! There is a huge differece. And, there are OTC forms of BC too that can be used as well. IF I had to pay for my own BC women out there should have to pay for their own too.
I am confused on why there is a need for 100% coverage for birth control? Every employer I have worked for provided coverage for them like any other drug, co pays and formulary?
Not in my day and they were around $30 a month and I had to pay for them myself. BC is not medicinal. And if Catholic or Christian institutions don’t want to pay for them because of religious reasons, they should not be forced to do so.
I dont want it for financial reasons. I dont get a say cause I’m not a church.
And speaking if the finances, how much is this going to cost Joe & Jane taxpayer in the court fights? How much legal expense to oppose / support this Obama care thinks cost me – Joe small business man – through my taxxes.
I turned off his speach last night when he stated he has made health care more affordable. Guess his thoughs of affordable mean my premiums only went from $2237 monthly to over $2700 a month for three people. More affordable???
I’m with you Tired. I fail to see the need for free birth control. A copay is fine. Granted, I’m past the age I need it, so I’m not really a good source of information. :)
Yes, you are a good source. So, I ask you, is this really free or is the cost just being pushed elsewhere?
There is a cost, and I think the insurance companies have included that cost in their rate planning. Therefore, no it’s not REALLY free.
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Again,the mixing of religious beliefs with logical behaviour. Will Viagra still be covered? I wonder? Another example about a company trying to keep women in “their place”. Disgusting.
I don’t want to start a riot, but when I worked in health care – Viagra was covered by medicaid. I never did understand that one, either.
I’m just curious, does any insurance plan include birth control coverage now? If so, how much does that change the premium?
On my plan, its subject to co pay just like every other RX.
The employer in this article is not opposed to the coverage for BC because of financial reasons, only religious ones. They have set the precedent that their religious reasons outweigh employees rights to choose medical products, drugs or procedures based on their own beliefs. Yes, employees can just pay for this trivial issue now out of pocket, but who wins the next argument over medical rights?
What happens when a Jehovah’s Witness employer refuses to pay for transfusions or certain other medical tests? What if the employer was a snake-handlin’ southern fundie? Using their ‘against my religious beliefs’ they could DEDUCT 10% of an employee’s paycheck for ‘tithing’ purposes.
While do I think every insurer should offer birth control coverage, I really don’t understand the need for it to be free. I just don’t see why having to pay a co-pay is a hardship.
Contraceptives are ‘medicines’. The right, with its urge for stupidity, confuses it with ‘sex’. Deny climate change, deny evolution and by all means, rely on ‘natural’ means of birth control. Big deal – the owners of the business are catholics. If the owners were muslim, and mandated that their employees could not eat…ham sandwiches because it violated THEIR religious principles, the right wing would be picketing. Picketing with concealed weapons, I might add..
And where did concealed weapons come from in this dialog?
I believe the protests would come when the Muslims were forced to provide free ham sandwiches. That’s the issue here.
Brokie, no matter your gender, religion, race, level of education, you know in your head that nothing is free. You know this is going to cost everyone that pays taxxes. There is no denying that. This is pushing that cost to everyone including you forever.
All of this talk only a few bucks here, only a few buck there drove my income last year below the poverty level based on the 7 people I support. First time in my entire life, even when I first got out of High School in 1980 I brought home that little $$. After disecting the financils, one number stick out – the hugh increase in health insurance – a wopping 98.6% increase in that expense. In obamas speach, he stated he made health care more affordable. Must have been using a different definition that I was taught in Grade School. And now he wants to nickle & dime that up even further so a segment of the population dont have to make their co-pays.
And how much are the court fights going to cost everyone?
Was a darn good thing I had staying power. I do look for this to be a bounce back year as my Revenues in Jan, 2013 exceeded my revenues in Jan & Feb 2012.
This is want Obama focus on instead of jobs.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the employer is not fighting this issue for political and financial reasons – but religious ones. However we feel about taxes and the repercussions from this decision, ultimately, do you want to entrust your medical rights to someone else – or do you want to make those decisions yourself? Or, like “Tired of it all” says, we should just roll over and take it by switching jobs…
I agree with your post 100%. I am a member of my group should be able to pick and choose my coverages, copays deds ect… And no, I do not want my medical right sitting in the palm of another person especially the Government.
At the end of the day, I am a business man that needs cost controll measures in place more then I need govt policy that increases cost.
Last I checked there were many employers not offering any health care coveage all? Was that not the reason for Obozo Care in the first place? This is still the USA and if you do not like the benefits you can offer your services to other employers.
so glad….on victory at a time, one day at a time – still praying for the USA