Insurers, Regulators Question Obama’s Healthcare Promise ‘Fix’

By Caroline Humer and Lewis Krauskopf | November 14, 2013

  • November 15, 2013 at 1:04 pm
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    What’s not to like? I’m sure he recruited a bunch of experts from the insurance industry and got their opinions on the feasibility of this “fix”, just like he did 3 years ago when he decided the ACA was the best way to fix the healthcare system, right? It’s unlike him to just implement something without a ton of research first.

    Oh, wait…Bush / Cheney lied about WMD’s in Iraq and Republicans Are Evil, so this is ok.

    • November 15, 2013 at 1:25 pm
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      • November 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm
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        didn’t they surface in Syria???

    • November 15, 2013 at 1:47 pm
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      Republicans are not evil, just selfish and misguided.

      • November 15, 2013 at 2:13 pm
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        Why, because they refused to support this mess? Looks like about 40 Dems just voted to amend it. The whole time during the shutdown, the Republicans kept asking Obama to at least delay the ACA. Obama put his fingers in his ears, refused to listen, and kept on harping about “The Republican Shutdown”.

        Mr. President: The time has come to throw this garbage out and hit the RESET button. Keep the parts of it that make sense (if any) and actually WORK ACROSS THE AISLE to come up with an actual SOLUTION. Stop the endless campaigning about how great you are, stop blaming your predecessors for any of your difficulties, stop taking credit for anything good which can even remotely be traced back to you while at the same time denying any knowledge of anything negative, and FIX THIS MESS.

        • November 26, 2013 at 9:22 am
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          Amending and repealing are two entirely different things…

  • November 15, 2013 at 1:27 pm
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    Hey, Barry!
    When are you going to tell me I have to turn in my serviceable Chevy and buy a Cadillac?

    • November 15, 2013 at 1:34 pm
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      No, Sue, you have that wrong. You have to buy a Chevy but pay for a Cadillac. In fact, you have to help everyone else buy their Chevy, too.

      • November 15, 2013 at 2:37 pm
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        How is Manchin doing up there in West Virginia? Is he up in 14 as well? I think Patty Murray of Washington is in a bit of hurt now that 290,000 have lost their healthcare in that very liberal state. Wow, 39 Democratic House members voted for a Republican bill today. Where have we seen such bi-partisan support for a Republican bill in the past 5 years? I wonder if Obama will veto it if it makes it past the Reid unpenetrable wall. If the Senate doesn’t do anything as usual, they should ride him out of town on a rail with a generous layer of tar and feathers.

    • November 15, 2013 at 2:31 pm
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      Acually, You will be required to buy 4 wheel drive, tow pkg & a sun roof- but your car wont have those features (because you will never use them anyway) The money the manufacturer saves (not needing to provide the features you wont use or didn’t want) goes to pay for other people’s needs.

  • November 15, 2013 at 1:47 pm
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    “The government said on Thursday that it would use a risk adjustment pool created in the law to help offset the costs that could come as the mix of participants changes.”
    Carl Rove, on the tube last night, read from the law which says these funds cannot be used on “unqualified” plans – so it looks like yet another law is going to be pushed aside by President Mr Fix-it.

    • November 15, 2013 at 1:50 pm
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      Well if it’s anything sneaky or underhanded, Karl Rove would know about it.

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        • November 15, 2013 at 3:18 pm
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          He does alot more than research, Agent. Try plot, scheme, manipulate, lie (yes, lie) and a whole lot more. But I would expect you to defend him since he’s on your side.

          And I am not referring to him speaking about the Risk Adjustment Pool. I’m talking about his Bush campaign years. Ancient history, so there’s no need for you to respond. Just thumb me down and move on.

          • November 15, 2013 at 3:24 pm
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            gotta agree with Libby on this one…Rove’s a bit of a scumbag. He and Rahm Emmanuel were probably separated at birth.

            That being said, THIS IS OBAMA’S PROBLEM.

          • November 15, 2013 at 3:47 pm
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            Agreed.

          • November 15, 2013 at 3:51 pm
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            You don’t move on so I don’t either. I’m no big fan of Rove since he and Dick Morris were badly wrong on the last election. When it comes to lying, he can’t hold a candle to your guy and his minions. It isn’t even a contest. In fact, you could have 39 Roves in a room and not lie like your President did for 3 years.

          • November 15, 2013 at 4:09 pm
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            Just because Rove is a better liar doesn’t mean he hasn’t lied as much or more than Obama. He just doesn’t get caught.

            And I am moving on because you will not stop your harrassment and unfair characterization of me and I’m tired of it.

            Let’s just shake hands and part ways.

          • November 15, 2013 at 4:18 pm
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            Ralph agrees with me and gets 5 thumbs up. I get 6 thumbs down. What is with you people?

          • November 15, 2013 at 4:55 pm
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  • November 17, 2013 at 10:59 am
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    The President has about as much authority to change the plain text of a law passed by Congress as I do.

    So he gets up there on his bully pulpit and “permits” (nay, encourages) 3rd parties to violate the law that Congress passed. There is no other way to put it. When (and if, a big if) insurers would violate the law by issuing insurance contracts that do not meet the plain text of the law, and they get sued by insureds (whom Obama cannot bully around) for higher benefits as required by the law, will Obama pay for it?

    This, from former “law professor” Barry, at a March 2007 fundraiser: “I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution.”

    • November 18, 2013 at 10:18 am
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      FFA, I hope you are ok up there in Chicago land after the rough weather this past weekend. Congrats to your Bears. After they had to wait, they pulled it out over the Ravens who just don’t have it this year.

      • November 18, 2013 at 1:51 pm
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        I was in FLA from Wednesday on through Sunday. Was supposed to take off at 03:55 and did not till 06:40. Back in Ohare about 09:30pm. WHAT A MESS. Most storm missed my local area. Waiting on a call from one of my carriers to see if they need help at the Cat Bus…

        Nasty stuff….

  • November 17, 2013 at 11:16 am
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    The mention of Dick Morris is interesting. He is probably one of the top turncoats in history. From a 100 on the 1 to 100 scale of Clinton supporters to a 1.

  • November 17, 2013 at 4:02 pm
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    Well, at least Libby agrees that Rahm Emmanual is a scumbag. But before they got of point the issue is that Obama has no authority to change the law that he put in place (ACA). Therefore he can’t make insurers violate the law. Thus, his press conference was political fodder or those Democrats which are at risk come election time. Had Obama’s press conference had any substance the 39 Dems that voted with the house bill, presented by Fred Upton (R) Michigan would not have voted for the bill and against Obama

    • November 21, 2013 at 10:45 am
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      Sarge, jury still out on Rahm…
      He seems to have got the murder rate under “control”. Lowest annual number of people shot in quite a while.
      Need a full school year to see what happens with his education plan. Have had no innocents killed in the safe passage routes yet.
      He got the parking meter issued hammered out as much as he could. Its that 75 year lease to a Canadian Contractor that’s a big bug a boo right now.
      Also drawing business in to Chicago from the Burbs. Don’t know how he is doing it, but he is.
      Next issue to tackle is the Union Thugs at McCormack place as they are driving event after event out to FLA & Vegas. WOW has relocated to Rosemont Convention Center. That place will be a vacant structure if he don’t get that one worked out.

  • November 18, 2013 at 8:03 am
    jw says:
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    The D.C. insurance commissioner was fired for saying (out loud & publicly) what the experts (and the rest of us at IJ) said about this fix.

    Rule 1, if you’re in politics or an appointed position, keep your opinions to yourself. Doesn’t matter if you’re right or not.

    • November 26, 2013 at 9:26 am
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      Same in the business world, jw.

  • November 18, 2013 at 1:53 pm
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    He is the only on fired over this mess????

    Any one catch Face the Nation yesterday morn? Pelosi toting the company line. Looking like OBama may use her as the anchor.



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