Healthcare.gov Attracts 800,000 Visitors As Operation Improves

By Alex Wayne | December 3, 2013
Health Overhaul

  • December 3, 2013 at 2:43 pm
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    Lean forward America. The website is only part of the problem. Millions will lose their coverage,millions will lose their doctors, premiums are going to double and triple, your taxes are going up to pay the bills sent to the government by the insurance carriers. And when the system implodes you will get the same healthcare out Vets get at the VA hospitals.

    • December 3, 2013 at 2:45 pm
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    • December 3, 2013 at 3:42 pm
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      Hey Jack, I saw where Obama is preparing a bailout package for the Insurance Industry since they will be picking up all the PreX people that manages to get coverage at some point. The website also has not been made secure so the hackers out there will have a field day on ID theft. We have a bunch of crooks in charge right now.

      • December 3, 2013 at 4:23 pm
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        Agent- I’ve seen reports of an 80% payback but that will not suffice. Do you know of an industry that can take a 20% loss every year and stay in business? And that’s 20% on the most costly customers. The whole thing is a sham. The healthy customer and the tax payer getting hosed again.

        Single payer system here we come!

        The carriers got played by a con artist from Chicago.

        • December 3, 2013 at 10:38 pm
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          • December 4, 2013 at 12:31 pm
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            Planet, you deserve Medicaid which may be where you end up. Hope you like it.

  • December 3, 2013 at 4:27 pm
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    • December 3, 2013 at 4:42 pm
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      How would you know with your head shoved up your ?

      • December 3, 2013 at 4:50 pm
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        Don’t pussyfoot around it, jack. Just say it.

      • December 3, 2013 at 5:23 pm
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        Dear Jack: you seem very, very touchy on the subject.
        A word of advice: get better candidates.

        PS: If you need to resort to nastiness, you already lost the argument.

        • December 4, 2013 at 7:03 am
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          And we shall. Obamacouldcareless is a disaster that will go down in history. And he’s pissed off a lot of people who do not easily forget.

          And here is another link of interest:

          http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/03/Gallup-more-you-know-about-obamacare-more%20you-oppose

          Read it and weep!

          • December 4, 2013 at 9:12 am
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            The phrase is actually:

            **could NOT care less**

            As in, I could not care any less than I already do.

          • December 4, 2013 at 9:42 am
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          • December 4, 2013 at 12:48 pm
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            Hey Always, did you hear him brag that now 500,000 will have access to Healthcare coverage? He seemed to forget that 5.5 million have just lost their Healthcare coverage. I think he is about 5 million behind right now and next year, up to 80 million will lose their Healthcare. I know Liberals don’t like math and they are in denial about these facts, but it doesn’t seem to matter to the true believers.

        • December 4, 2013 at 9:17 am
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          Just stating the facts Celtica, you should try it every now and then.

          • December 4, 2013 at 9:22 am
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            jack,

            You are making projections, not stating facts. You may turn out to be right, but we do not know for a fact, yet.

          • December 4, 2013 at 10:14 am
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            Ron- anyone that actually understands risk pools and profits knows that it’s going to sink the carriers and the middle class. That is a fact. Numbers don’t lie!

          • December 4, 2013 at 10:18 am
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            Yes, as useless as our governments new an improved healthcare system.

          • December 4, 2013 at 10:35 am
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          • December 4, 2013 at 11:35 am
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            Libby,

            Again, I’m not going to stoop to your level of ignorance. Obama doesn’t give a rats a$$ about anything but trying to make himself look good and that’s been going down the hopper quite nicely and on his own merit. And when you show a liberal the truth – they start the with the insults and name calling. No, I’m not 12, dear. The links I’ve posted show the truth and show exactly what we’ve been talking about all along. The website isn’t working and everyone from Obama on down knew it wouldn’t work but someone in a high level of government- gee I wonder who that could be – wanted it rolled out anyway. And viola! Disaster. Libby, Obama has pissed a lot of people off and now he’s trying to back peddle. He’s gone against his own IT’S THE LAW and now he is letting BC/BS rescind all the cancellations that were sent out and offer insureds the same plan that they had before but probably at a much higher premium but, but, for only one year and then whamo back to the inflated premiums so those at the top of the food chain can pay for those on the subsides. Ah, so nice of Obama to do that – what a swell guy! The man is despicable.

          • December 4, 2013 at 12:10 pm
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            Celtica- it’s math you twit and you are correct the left considers math an opinion.

          • December 4, 2013 at 12:42 pm
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          • December 4, 2013 at 2:23 pm
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            My producer got all the way through his own application and then got stuck come time to punch in the payment. For 45 minutes he tried to put in his payment and then gave up..

            that’s how good the web site is currently working.

            And Jack, the carriers wont go under. They are guaranteed some profit on the backs of you, me, agent, Libby, Celtica, Sarge, DCMS, and everyone else you know.
            Imagine this – Before Obama Care – they fail, they fail. After, a guaranteed profit. So much for proper management, huh? Why bother with Fraud Control?

          • December 4, 2013 at 3:09 pm
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            FFA- I would agree with you if the union was in the health ins companies like GM, but this plan was designed to get a single payer system. Obuma said he wanted single payer.

          • December 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm
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          • December 4, 2013 at 4:57 pm
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            Ron- It’s still Obumacare. He sold it to the American people 100% and signed it into law. He owns it! I use the word law very loosely because he changes it everyday without the approval of congress. It will be forever his and his alone. I know a lot of libs want to disassociate him and themselves from it, and I would too if I were them. It’s a failure.

            He doesn’t get to take his name off of it because he didn’t have the balls to tell the American people the truth about wanting single payer.

            This is his plan to get single payer. I’ve said it 100 times on here. He just lied about it…..again.

          • December 5, 2013 at 1:46 pm
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            Jack writes, “He doesn’t get to take his name off of it because he didn’t have the balls to tell the American people the truth about wanting single payer.”

            I’m so old I remember that in 2008, President Obama said in a town hall meeting and reported by The Wall Street Journal (in case you want a source), “If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single payer system. A single payer system would eliminate private insurance companies and put a Medicare-like system into place where the government pays all healthcare bills with tax dollars.”

            So, Jack, again, you’re wrong. He did tell the American people. But, advisors to both candidate Obama and candidate H. Clinton said not to push such a platform, so both parties agreed to go so far as to even move away from a public option. Don’t let those facts get in the way of your narrative, though. And, sign me up for the Medicare for all if we do indeed get there. This Heritage Foundation idea known as the PPACA is a step in the right direction, but it fails to even offer that public option I mentioned above. Thanks a lot Democratic advisors!

          • December 5, 2013 at 4:34 pm
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            Cap planet- so saying something in a town hall meeting and an article in the WJ is telling the American people. You going to hang your hat on that? LOL

            Here’s what I would define as telling the American people. ” If you like your plan, you can keep it” 37 times!

            Go get your Kool-Aid.

          • December 6, 2013 at 1:18 pm
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            Libs, sounds like to me your undies are in a bunch again. Relax, take a xanax for goodness sakes it’s Friday after all.

          • December 6, 2013 at 2:00 pm
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            I’ve already told you I don’t wear panties. And I don’t do drugs.

        • December 5, 2013 at 3:03 pm
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          A single payer system would be horrific. You think Obamacare is bad. This is what has been happening in Greece. They have socialized healthcare. It isn’t pretty and I’m sure Spain isn’t doing much better.

          http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/02/greece-economy/3805059/

          • December 5, 2013 at 3:59 pm
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            We are not Spain or Greece. We are the greatest country in the world.

          • December 5, 2013 at 4:40 pm
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            Obuma has driven the country off into the ditch and his brothers are stealing the rims off as we speak.

          • December 5, 2013 at 4:51 pm
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            More racist BS from jack.

          • December 5, 2013 at 5:25 pm
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          • December 6, 2013 at 10:58 am
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            Not me, Always. I vote one and done. But I’m glad they thumbed you down. If it’s so bad here, why don’t you leave? We might be better off.

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  • December 3, 2013 at 6:02 pm
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    If the ACA is so great, then why that the first family and all elected officials and staff are not enrolled in it. Per HHS Secretary quote “we are not allowed to enroll”. If the government members did enroll they would lose their great coverage.

    • December 4, 2013 at 11:04 am
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      Dear Fred: I agree. They all should.

      • December 4, 2013 at 4:02 pm
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        Celtica, even I agree with you there.

    • December 4, 2013 at 10:38 pm
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      Don’t forget Dirty Harry Reid, he has exempted himself and all of his staff.

      • December 5, 2013 at 12:28 pm
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        Yes, I saw that. Tell me why Harry Reid even needs either a legislative staff or leadership staff since he has done nothing but trash all bills sent by the House for 5 years. We are paying all these staffers for playing on the internet, going out to lunch at the Senate lunchroom and sending out form letters to Nevada. Sounds like a cushy job to me. I saw where the government picks up about 80% of the cost of their gold plated, low deductible insurance.

        • December 5, 2013 at 12:37 pm
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          Agent,

          I agree with you regarding Senator Reid, but we have to include Speaker Boehner and his staff. I do give Speaker Boehner credit for signing up for coverage on Healthcare.gov.

          • December 5, 2013 at 4:53 pm
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            Yes, Boehner was real happy with his premium doubling on him with higher deductibles and much higher out of pocket. Did they call this the Affordable Care Act? Affordable for who? I wonder if he will have insurance on 1-1 if he hasn’t paid a premium. I hope he doesn’t have to go to the doctor anytime soon.

    • December 6, 2013 at 12:48 pm
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      Always, don’t sweat the dislikes from the liberal crowd on this blog. They certainly don’t like hearing the truth about their agenda and their Messiah. We must all be racists for disliking his policies and lack of governing skills and calling for his Impeachment for lying dozens of times about Obamacare and about every other issue he is involved in like Fast & Furious, IRS, NSA, Benghazi, Iran. You name it, he has lied about it.

      • December 6, 2013 at 5:47 pm
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        Hi Agent,

        Believe me I don’t sweat them. I was being a little sarcastic with that post. And you are spot on, they do not like any negative statements being made about their Messiah. Some one posted a picture of the Obama’s getting off of air force one with a caption that read: The bitch and blameless on FB. I had to laugh at that one. And I’ve seen a lot of pictures of Obama with Pinocchio’s nose. That one would be funny if it weren’t true.

        • December 9, 2013 at 10:29 am
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          Hey Always, in going through the new posts this morning, I see the left wing side of the blog are really busy hiding your posts as well as some of mine. We must have really hit a nerve, right? Can’t stand criticism of their Messiah, so just keep on with the dislikes.

          • December 9, 2013 at 10:39 am
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            It seems to me, most people don’t like you both comparing the greatest country in the world to Greece and Spain.

  • December 4, 2013 at 6:58 am
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    Yes, “attracts” is the key word. How many actually “sign” up.

    http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/68951840065/with-no-payment-system-obama-admin-will-guess-how-much

    What a colossal joke.

    • December 4, 2013 at 4:05 pm
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      Always, since the website is still incomplete, they don’t have a method of payment. In order to have insurance, a premium payment needs to be made. To whom is the premium paid to? You know what, even Hollywood cannot dream this stuff up. I agree, it is a colossal joke and the joke is on us who will be picking up the tab.

    • December 10, 2013 at 12:38 pm
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      Actually Libby, we were pointing out the errors of Progressive Socialism in many of the European countries and the path this country is on currently. We are not far behind them now and if Obamacare survives, we will be joining them in the bankruptcy line.

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        Agent – you would argue with a fence post. Your comment was “the left wing side of the blog are really busy hiding your posts as well as some of mine. We must have really hit a nerve, right? Can’t stand criticism of their Messiah, so just keep on with the dislikes.”

        Since there aren’t enough of us on the left side to be able to hide your comments, even if we wanted to, it is apparant the right AND the left do not like you comparing the greatest country in the world to Greece and Spain.

        • December 11, 2013 at 4:44 pm
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          Libby, you are like the pot calling the kettle black. No one can post a Conservative idea without you railing against it. I hope you enjoy your Christmas Party since you will obviously be the center of attention since you are so funny etc. We are having ours tonight and will enjoy our insured’s steak and seafood restaurant and the employees will get their bonus checks they have been looking forward to.

          • December 12, 2013 at 9:21 am
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            Sounds like a real fun party, Agent. On a Wednesday night! LOL!!!

  • December 4, 2013 at 8:10 am
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    Geeze, I could do this all day:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/03/obama-admin-admits-126000-obamacare-enrollments-might-not-be-real/

    Read it and weep – the site is working my a$$.

    And by the way – has anyone taken a look at Detroit lately? Coming to a state near you,

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      • December 4, 2013 at 1:37 pm
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        With Obama ship sinking fast I’d think you’d be a little humbled. Guess I was wrong. The 20 year old aren’t even trying to sign up for the 3 crap plans that are being offered. I think the young progressives have finally woken up. Yes, I am on the right side of the isle. You and your bleeding hear liberals always trying to spin us on the right is such a negative way. We try to protect the unborn – you scream bloody murder – no pun intended. My sources are credible. Didn’t you just post something from Wikipedia? Or might have that been Libby. You both seem to blend into one after a while – Wikipedia – that’s your source? A site that anyone can manipulate? Good source – speaks volumes.

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            Don’t you “attack the source” if someone happens to quote Fox News or Breitbart? Can’t have it both ways, Libby!

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          • December 4, 2013 at 4:18 pm
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            If the 20-year-olds aren’t signing up, aren’t they supposed to be a major source of financing this debacle? If only the old and/or sick are signing up, it’s going to crash under its own weight. Duh. And just because Obama is president for the next 3 years doesn’t mean his ship isn’t sinking. If the American people are starting to lose faith in his credibility (not that he ever had any), and if the Democrats start abandoning him (which they already seem to be doing) he’s going to be the lamest of lame ducks.

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          • December 4, 2013 at 5:10 pm
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            Libby, This is all on Obama’s watch. Bush has been out of office for 5 years now. It’s time to give credit where credit is due – right to the king of lies, Obama. You libs love to keep beating a dead horse. It’s Obama’s fault and all those shovel ready jobs he promised us when he was running that weren’t there. You do remember Obama laughing, mind you, on national television of how those shovel ready jobs weren’t really there. Your loyalty is amazing. Lie, after lie aftet lie and still you and Celt love him. Why?

          • December 5, 2013 at 9:01 am
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            I don’t love him. I have many issues with the job he’s been doing. I just don’t demonize him or think he is inherently evil. I beleive in many of the same ideals he does.

            * Healthcare for all Americans
            * Gay rights
            * Women’s rights
            * Racial equality
            * Immigation reform
            * Getting our troops out of Iraq
            * Wealth inequity
            * Equal pay for equal work
            * Lowering the deficit

            - He has not presented a balanced budget, for which I blame him.
            - The ACA is not working as promised, for which I blame him.
            - Gitmo was not shut down, for which I blame him.
            - He has not attacked welfare reform, for which I blame him.

            As far as Benghazi, IRS, and Fast & Furious, I have not seen enough evidence to say definitivly those things reached his desk or that he had personal knowledge. If that comes to light, I will be happy to blame him for those things as well.

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          • December 5, 2013 at 12:32 pm
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            Now that the polling has been done on the 18-29 crowd that have loved Obama up until now, the polls say they don’t like him so much. They will also not like it when their parents policy is canceled with them on it and then face the higher premiums the parents are going to have to pay assuming they can ever get covered. The parents might just say son, go get your own coverage through the site. Good luck.

          • December 5, 2013 at 1:21 pm
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            Amazed – I respect your opinions and will not argue with you about your post.

            However, I stated I believed in those same ideals. I did not state Obama had accomplished them all. However, I know how many were addressed under the previous adminstration. None.

            You can call me delusional if you want to. It makes no never mind to me. Once you have the evidence, then we’ll talk.

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          • December 5, 2013 at 2:10 pm
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            Seek and ye shall find – it is true.

            http://aconservativeedge.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/confirmed-obama-wh-turned-down-ibm-offer-to-build-o-care-website-for-free-tgp/

            Now go on and call me a right wing fanatic but I highly doubt that any of your liberal sites would want to fess up to something such as this. Obama is a joke.

          • December 5, 2013 at 4:33 pm
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            You and Agent believe anything you find on the internet. Sorry to burst your bubble (but I could do it all day!) but it’s just not true.

            http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=70746

            IBM offered to help on Medicare fraud, not the healthcare exchange.

          • December 5, 2013 at 5:27 pm
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            Snoopes is a leftie website. Not everything they post on that rag is ture either. Are you still using Wikipedia for your sources? Or have you given that one up?

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            Actually, per the note on the above post it was, indeed, IBM who made the offer. Obama is a idiot to have passed up such a great comapany as IBM. We get stuck with some Canadian company that doesn’t know what the blazes it’s doing.

            So, Libby, snopes.com was WRONG!

          • December 6, 2013 at 7:29 am
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            Watch the interview for yourself and decide who’s right:

            http://online.wsj.com/ad/article/viewpoints-palmisano.html

          • December 6, 2013 at 10:02 am
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            Amazed – IBM offered help on medicare & medicaid fraud. Not healthcare.gov. Period. End of story.

            Agent – attack my source. If that’s all you got, you might as well stay home. Libby – 1,021 Agent – 0

          • December 6, 2013 at 11:01 am
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            You keep living in la la land, Libby.

          • December 6, 2013 at 11:27 am
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            Thanks for the link, ky jw. It proves my point. When the IBM CEO is talking about “healthcare” he’s talking about Medicare &/or Medicaid. If you’ll notice, the interview was in 2010. Next time do some research before spreading lies and gossip. Honestly, you people are like old fish wives.

          • December 6, 2013 at 12:11 pm
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            I guess your listening skills aren’t any better than your reading skills. You’re the one in la-la land sister.

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          • December 6, 2013 at 1:40 pm
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            That last line should have read: The dope AND change.
            I know how critical Libby can be.

          • December 6, 2013 at 2:15 pm
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            You guys are so delusional and crazy, it’s actually scary. To think you are out there voting when you get your “facts” off right-wing rags and swallow it all hook, line, and sinker. None of you think for yourself or you would see that IBM offering to build the website for free is absolute nonsense. I’m just glad the Dems out number you so we can keep crazy out of the White House.

          • December 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm
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            Right, the good old Democrats. They have been taking care of Detroit for decades. Nice job you’ve all been doing. Have you heard lately that they have finally filed for bankruptcy? Even when Obama said in one of his many useless, filled with lies, speeches that he would NOT let Detroit go bankrupt – just another lie and broken promise to the people of Detroit. However, they can have all have subsidized healthcare if the government could ever get their website built. Good old Democrats, you should be very proud of the city of Detroit. You guys built that.

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          • December 6, 2013 at 4:21 pm
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            I couldn’t care less what happens to Detroit. It’s a scum-filled cesspool. I take no responsibility for anything that happened there. Crooks are crooks, whether democrat or republican.

          • December 6, 2013 at 5:41 pm
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            Funny you should mention crooked politicians. Chicago has been known for being a breeding ground for them. Need I say more?

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            Since you mentioned crooked politicians – Chicago has been known to be a breeding ground for them. Need I say more?

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      • December 4, 2013 at 1:58 pm
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        Agent,

        What is your evidence that “Libby & Ron are all in complete denial on this fiasco”? We have both posted multilpe times that we against the PPACA as it is current written.

        You can disagree with us, but at least have your facts straight. Does it bother you that we are against this law?

        • December 4, 2013 at 4:12 pm
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          Ron, if you are against the law, why do you continue to post leftist or government websites arguing the other way? Why aren’t you equally enraged as Conservatives are? Try to use your brain instead of a website for a change. Are you against the multiple mandates built into this law as it is currently written or not? By the way, I was castigated by you, Planet and others for calling it a bill. As I was driving home for lunch, they were interviewing your hero Bill Clinton on his famous remarks of a few weeks ago that he was only trying to help when he said Obama should honor the keep the policy pledge. Clinton called it a “bill” in his interview.

          • December 5, 2013 at 7:55 am
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            Agent,

            I am going to assume that you do not have any actual evidence that Libby and/or I support the PPACA. SHOCKING!!

            List 1 website article that I posted that supports the law? Just 1!!

            Why don’t you try to do some real research and actually cite any of your sources. If your only source is your brain, that would explain the plethora of innacuracies you regularly post that are debunked by simple fact-checking. You are simple Conservative minion who can only forward talking points and rhetoric.

            Since when are Fox, GOP.gov, Forbes, and the Ludwig von Mises Institute leftist? I have cited those sites on multiple times also. It is call real balance.

            Why do you think I am not outraged? Because I post respectfully citing facts and do not sling insults? I am an analytical thinker, not emotional. Facts and data sway my opinion, not feelings, opinions and spin.

            I will state this once again, my father is and will always be my ONLY hero. I expect you to respect that fact.

            President Clinton was incorrect in referring to the law as a bill. Does that mean it is OK for you to be wrong in referring to the law as a bill because he was?

          • December 5, 2013 at 1:07 pm
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            Agent, I am positive you noticed that Libby and Ron have both said they are disappointed with how the ACA has rolled out and what it is doing to various people. Libby recently suggested options to the mandate, which I think you even commented on. So why ask about mandates again?

            Just because they don’t use every post to rail against this law doesn’t mean they are for it. Not everyone feels the need to preach to the choir or beat a dead horse.

          • December 5, 2013 at 5:53 pm
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            So Ron, why do you have a nasty habit of using government or leftist websites to try to sway people? Is that your way to be fair and balanced quoting articles from Paul Krugman? It seems to me you should be using sites that support a Conservative view of the situation. By the way, you didn’t answer my question about all the mandates. Consult with your website and get back to me.

          • December 5, 2013 at 6:13 pm
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            Agent,

            Are you referring to Fox, GOP.gov, Forbes and the Ludwig von Mises Institute? Those leftist sites?

            I am not going to answer any of your questions until you start answering mine.

          • December 6, 2013 at 10:04 am
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            Agent – why do you have a nasty habit of using NO websites to sway people? You are so incredible, we don’t even take you seriously anymore. Libby – 1022 / Agent – 0

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        • December 5, 2013 at 5:49 pm
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          Yes KYjw, they say they are now against it and then muse about single payer being a better approach. Planet prays for it daily. He wants the government to take care of him from cradle to grave just like the other entitlement people in this country. I am from self sufficient stock and my daddy taught me the work ethic. I am not asking for a free ride and it is not what the country was founded on.

          • December 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm
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            Agent,

            When did I EVER muse about a single payer system? I have defended Republican approaches to health care reform (tort reform, selling across state lines, increased competition, etc.). My complaint is that republicans talk a good game, but won’t put form the effort to get their ideas implemented into laws. However, they sure are good at blaming others.

          • December 6, 2013 at 10:07 am
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            Agent – single payer is hardly a free ride. I pay my taxes, just like you. I’d rather have them go to providing me healthcare than killing people, sending it overseas, or supporting corporate farmers. It’s called a redistribution of revenue. Take the money we’re already paying and allocate it towards things that will help Americans rather than the rest of the world.

    • December 4, 2013 at 12:49 pm
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      So Breitbart, Drudge Report, NewsMax, Poor Richards, Weasal Zipper, and Rush Limbaugh are more credible sources?

      • December 4, 2013 at 10:57 pm
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        Libby, Didn’t you post a Newsmax article above? So use it when you want and criticize it when you don’t want to use it. Typical Democrat. Wow

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          • December 9, 2013 at 12:38 pm
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            Ron, If you are accusing Sargeant for being a righty, then you must fit the category of a lefty. Your father in law was right no matter how you try to defend your belief system.

          • December 9, 2013 at 1:56 pm
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            Agent,

            You said, “Ron, If you are accusing Sargeant for being a righty, then you must fit the category of a lefty”. How do come to such a conclusion? Is your world so black and white that you have to be either a Conservative or Liberal? Most people have some Conservative and Liberal beliefs depending on the issue.

            You had previously requested that I refrain from referring to you as a Republican and I have honored that request. I will, again, respectfully request that you do not refer to me as anything, but an Independent.

            What do you expect to gain by referring to me as a Liberal, Progressive, Socialist, and/or Democrat?

          • December 9, 2013 at 2:30 pm
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            A response. He’s a troll…

        • December 5, 2013 at 10:01 am
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          Sarge – I did that to prove that, unlike most righties on this site, I do read other sources other than just “leftist” sites.

          • December 9, 2013 at 1:53 pm
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            Wow. Thumbed down for reading. You guys are hilarious.

        • December 5, 2013 at 12:38 pm
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          Sargeant, Ron and Libby criticize us if we post sources on Newsmax or Fox or any other Conservative site and when they do it, it is ok if it fits the agenda. Ron posted an article on Paul Krugman, the leftist former Princeton professor who now writes for the now infamous going broke NY Times and then complains and feigns outrage when I call him on it. Leftists and Government sites are notorious for lying, slanting the issue to their cause and Ron & Libby both fall for it.

          • December 5, 2013 at 1:48 pm
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            Agent,

            I will ask you again, are Fox, GOP.gov, Forbes, and the Ludwig von Mises Institute leftists? I have cited all of those as sources I use. Your friend Hayek is praised on the same Ludwig von Mises Institute site that criticizes President Reagan. Did you even read the following article?

            http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=488

            I would love to hear you defend President Reagan to true libertarians and real economists.

            Until you can debunk the facts that I present and provide a source, you have zero credibility to criticize mine.

          • December 5, 2013 at 2:03 pm
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            Agent,

            It just dawned on me. I feel like the jerk that tells the 7 year old who still believes that Santa is not real.

            If you want to still believe that President Reagan was a Conservative, then go ahead. You don’t usually let facts stand in the way of your beliefs anyway.

          • December 5, 2013 at 5:44 pm
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            Ron, there is a good reason why you feel like a jerk because you are one. Your father in law had you pegged just right when he called you a Progressive Socialist for your beliefs. Don’t give me that nonsense about him collecting Social Security and Medicare. Those are not entitlements. He paid into them all his working life and by the way, Social Security benefits are taxed and Medicare premiums are deducted from his check.

          • December 5, 2013 at 6:18 pm
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            Agent,

            If you had any reading comprehension skills at all you would realize that I was not criticizing him for collecting benefits. He is the one who is against Social Security, Medicare and union pensions.

            If I am a Progressive Socialist, then why have I called for the PERMANENT end to that philosophy?

            What is your response to the article about President Reagan from the Ludwig von Mises Institute? The same institute that praises your friend Hayek. Was it above your 1st grade reading comprehension level?

          • December 11, 2013 at 4:07 pm
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            Ron,

            You aren’t balanced, and your reading and interpretation skills are not superior than Agent’s. They usually contain more source quoting, but they contradict.

            So let me get this straight: Liberal ideals and plans that don’t work (PPACA) are not Obama’s or left leaning,

            Conservative ideals that work (Reagan) aren’t conservative ideals, they are liberal.

            Are there any liberal programs you believe are bad, without attempting to attribute them to the left? Are there any conservative programs you believe are good without attributing them to the left?

            Reagan was not a liberal. I don’t care about your source, I care about common sense. I note that you didn’t explain yourself the factors that you agreed made him a liberal, because you were perfectly willing to accept it, as long as a source said it.

            Want to take up the debate, factor by factor? Obama and Reagan couldn’t be more different in how they handled their recessions, and the numbers before and after hand couldn’t be more different as well.

            I’m rather sick of your attempts to back up the fact that you are a moderate, when it is in fact clear, that you vote democrat more than republican, and you back up democrats more than republican. You may be on the switch to balancing that out, but to date, you are not balanced in your research.

          • December 11, 2013 at 4:09 pm
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            Ron,

            Fix “Are there any liberal programs you believe are bad, without attempting to attribute them to the left? Are there any conservative programs you believe are good without attributing them to the left?”

            To are there any liberal programs you believe are bad, without attempting to attribute them to the right?”

            The PPACA Obama can lie all he wants and say he wanted single payer but couldn’t get it, not a single republicans wanted Obama’s plan, and he knew it. Therefore, him and democrats wanted it. Was it Snow that was the only republican that voted for the PPACA?

            Remind me, because I can’t remember, and you clearly paid so little attention that you honestly don’t know. So go look it up.

          • December 11, 2013 at 4:15 pm
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            There you go again, Bob.

            1. Ron did not call Reagan a liberal, Agent did that. Ron said Reagan used some Keynesian ideas during his term.

            2. Ron has never said he was a moderate. He said he was an independent with liberal social views.

            3. Ron is against the ACA and has always spoken out against it.

            4. Ron doesn’t “back up” liberals more than Republicans. He only points out (mostly to Agent) that all points aren’t black and white and there are two sides to every story. He does this because Agent has tunnel vision and is unable to think outside his own programmed rhetoric.

            5. You need to get some therapy.

      • December 6, 2013 at 10:26 am
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        You forgot Michelle Malkin and Political Outcast Libby. All of the ones you mentioned above are far more reliable than government websites or far left sites like MSNBC, Moveon.org, Media Matters that you like so well.

        • December 6, 2013 at 10:32 am
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          Whatever, Agent. I guess you are now the expert on journalism, too. Just like economics. LOL!!!

        • December 11, 2013 at 4:55 pm
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          Libby, congratulations. You used a favorite line from Reagan. “There you go again” against Walter Mondale I believe as he destroyed him in their debate. You have your facts wrong. I have never called Reagan a liberal, just Ron and Planet who chimes in once a month. Ron calls himself an Independent and then slants everything to the left and tries to make Conservatives look bad with his unending website trash including the now infamous Paul Krugman who is as Progressive left as they come.

          • December 12, 2013 at 9:24 am
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            Nobody has to try to make Conservatives look bad. You guys do that all by yourself.

        • December 11, 2013 at 5:00 pm
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          Bob, you did a good job against Ron, the liberal Independent who slants everything left that he posts. By the way, the latest poll has Independents 70-30 against Obama and his policies. Too bad Ron is out there on the fringe. He may as well go ahead and make his donation to Hillary for the 2016 election since his belief system is close to hers.

          He admitted his father in law thinks he is a Progressive Socialist. Gee, I wonder where he got that idea.

      • December 6, 2013 at 10:30 am
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        Libby, the only thing I agree with you on is sending our money overseas to aid people that don’t like us very well. I would think you might have a problem by now with government trying to provide Healthcare for this country. How do you think Single Payer will be run any better than Obamacare? They can’t even build a website that works. I guess they could do a TV ad and have the theme – “Got Insurance”? Oops! Nothing available due to website malfunction.

        • December 6, 2013 at 10:33 am
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          All I can say is Single Payer Here We Come!

    • December 4, 2013 at 12:56 pm
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      Always Amazed,

      Truth I can handle.
      Fiction disguised as truth or fact — not so much.

    • December 4, 2013 at 5:23 pm
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      Hey Always and Connie, did you see the new poll done by the Harvard Institute of Politics? They were polling the Millenial crowd of 18-29 year olds that Obama needs to sign up. The younger ones under 25 wanted to throw him out of office by a big majority. The older ones from 25-29 cut him a little more slack since they believed the Hope & Change slogan, but even they disapprove of his policies and on top of that, can’t get a job. They went overwhelmingly to Obama in the past 2 elections and their hopes have been dashed. I would like to see the enrollment numbers on these young people. I think it is very few if these polls are correct.

      • December 4, 2013 at 5:49 pm
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        Hi Agent,

        No I did not see this poll done by Harvard thank you for sharing. The younger ones wanted to throw him out of office. Wow – that speaks volumes. The bloom has fallen of their rose colored glasses. Hopes have been dashed. So sad to have believed in the community planner and all the hot air he spewed while running for both terms. He’s nothing but an a glorified orator. But according to Celtcia, the 20-26 year olds must all be on their parents plans and that’s why the numbers are going to be so low. Right – and I have a bridge I can sell you in Brooklyn too.

        • December 5, 2013 at 12:41 pm
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          They will be on the parents policy until the cancellation notice arrives and then not. Maybe they can help the parents navigate the dysfunctional site. Maybe they can get coverage sometime next year only at 50% higher rates. How will they pay for it? Sorry, the site is still under construction. No premium, no coverage.

        • December 5, 2013 at 5:59 pm
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          Hey Always, Did you see the political operative Plouffe’s comment that Obamacare will be operating great by 2017? Hmm! He may be from a different planet just like our own Captain Planet.

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      Always, the only explanation I can think of for the government to turn down the IBM offer was they wanted to spend a lot of money on 15 vendors and the main one had a VP who was a gal pal of Michelle in college. That was a huge mistake, but not as huge as writing a law that will ruin the country if it is fully implemented.

      • December 6, 2013 at 10:09 am
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        You’re an idiot.

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          • December 6, 2013 at 10:30 am
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            When did I say I’m not a name-caller? I most definitely am sarcastic and snarky and am not above name calling. I’m not proud of it and have tried to curtail it, but it’s in my nature and I kind of like it. Especially on a day like today when all of you are getting on my last nerve.

          • December 6, 2013 at 12:12 pm
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            Oh, no. A little tussle with you is what I need. I can’t take it out on my co-workers, but I have no problem letting loose on all you idiots.

        • December 6, 2013 at 11:46 am
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          Simple solution to us ‘getting on your last nerve’, Libby…Get off the freaking blog, you idiot. ROFL!!!

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            My co-workers love me because I’m funny as hell and love to laugh. I do not resent my boss. He is a really great guy and very smart. And I seriously doubt he is a 1%er. He’s wealthy, but no where near the 1%.

      • December 6, 2013 at 2:08 pm
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        There she goes again, name calling again. I could not agree with you more. Doesn’t like to hear the truth. I just posted this in response to something else but just think about it. IF Michelle didn’t have an old friend working at the Canadian company what are the chances that the website would have been built here and worked? And I agree with you whole heartedly, when it is fully implemented it’s going to be worse then anyone imagined. We’ll loose our doctors and hospitals. I’ve heard this from a friend who goes to a podiatrist that the only people coved for podiatry will be people who have diabetes. This came from her podiatrist. She also heard from her eye doctor that any elective procedure also won’t be covered. One of her eye lids is starting to lower and she’ll need to have it surgically lifted. He doctor told her she better have that done before Obamascare kicks in because it’s going to be considered elective and it won’t be covered. The doctor actually posted this in the waiting room so his patients would be made aware. Goodbye good healthcare and welcome some very crappy plans.

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          Well, if you heard it from a friend who heard it from her podiatrist, it HAS to be true. LMFAO!!!

          Newsflash Always, elective surgery has NEVER been covered. Moron.

          • December 6, 2013 at 2:21 pm
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            I guess I’d better hurry down before 1/1/14 to get my boob job. Otherwise, it won’t be covered by Obamacare. You guys would crack me up if you weren’t so scary.

            Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another you been messin’ around. Hahahahahahahahaha.

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          • December 6, 2013 at 4:38 pm
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            They do, but gotta run. We’re off to our office Christmas party and everyone wants to sit at my table. And, no, I don’t believe your friend or her so-called podiatrist. SHOW me that only diabetics will have podiatry coverage. Then I’ll believe you.

          • December 6, 2013 at 6:03 pm
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            REO coming to the Rosemont theater. They used to go to the UC or some other venue in Chicago…. But now, two nights in the Rosemont Theater gets them more in their pocket then one night at the UC…
            Mr Rickets… Are you paying attention?

        • December 9, 2013 at 12:43 pm
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          So Libby, your co-workers love you because you are funny as hell and love to laugh. You should try to use more humor in your posts and people may “like” you more. The only evidence I see of humor is your occasional flirting with FFA. Name calling will not win many friends or influence people on this blog.

          • December 9, 2013 at 1:55 pm
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            Agent – you don’t get my humor because you have none yourself. Besides I gave up on being friends with you, Sarge, and all of the other mean-spirited folks on here. You guys dished it out first. Now you can’t take it. Typical.

  • December 4, 2013 at 11:43 am
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      • December 4, 2013 at 5:13 pm
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        Right.

        • December 4, 2013 at 5:13 pm
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          Is that why thier ratings have been falling so?

          • December 4, 2013 at 5:28 pm
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            Always, CNN is a mere shell of its former self back in the salad days of Ted Turner. When Fox came on the scene, they started going down and have been in freefall since. Several top management people were let go and replaced, but CNN continues to do poorly. Soon, they will be at MSNBC levels which has a national audience of Celtica and Libby and not much more. By the way, that evil commentator (Bashir?) who made all the nasty remarks about Sarah quit MSNBC today. I am sure that will really disappoint Libby and Celtica and probably Planet as well.

          • December 4, 2013 at 5:52 pm
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            Hi Agent,

            Exactly! Their numbers are terrible these days but Fox, however, seems to be doing just fine. I’m sure they’ll have plenty to say about that last statement. The truth hurts.

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  • December 4, 2013 at 2:46 pm
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    After Further review, the web site still sucks. Even Mikie don’t like it.

    Want proof, go to http://www.healthcare.gov (or what ever the heck it is) and see first hand. Let me know if its taking payments today. Wonder if its even up to speed to take a payment by mail…

    This guy has no business being in the web business, the insurance business or the white house. I am gathering that most of the country don’t like Illinois politics. On the upside, its not Detroit. At least they got the lions in control of their destiny!

    • December 4, 2013 at 3:23 pm
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      The most worrisome part of the entire “website issue” is that there is no security built in. We are going to be made by law to use something that is so flawed that only criminals are going to benefit from it. Not many are talking about the lack of security and it seems to be a huge issue.

      • December 4, 2013 at 3:29 pm
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        My producer just tried to pull all his info up and attempt to finish the application. Guess what happened???? Hint – it still sucks.

        Answer, He could not even pull his already entered info up. He is still lying about this.

        • December 4, 2013 at 3:48 pm
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          • December 4, 2013 at 5:29 pm
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            He meant Obama dummy! Obama, the serial liar.

          • December 4, 2013 at 11:02 pm
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            Nice Celtica ” And why you call your producer a liar”

            Seriously, are you of Asian ancestry? first generation?

          • December 5, 2013 at 3:47 pm
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            We all make typos from time to time but thanks for the laugh Sarge.

      • December 4, 2013 at 3:48 pm
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        • December 4, 2013 at 4:10 pm
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          Celtica- Sorry – OBama is still Lying about the web site. Thought it was understood my typing skills aren’t the best. Besides, if it don’t work for him, what on earth would lead you to believe it would work for me? Think I have some magical work around?

          Libby, He would qualify for subsidy. That why he is attempting to go through the exchange. I would too given all the members of my HH (7). So, I am kicking my group policy to the curb which means I by law can not contribute to his personal health insurance forcing the entire burden on his shoulders. The Corp will also be losing the tax deduction. So, Obama has screwed him with higher premiums and the corp forcing less deductions and therefore higher Corp Taxes with this law.

          But you know, its the Illinois way! Screw average Joe for the ego sake! To hell with the small business man.

          • December 4, 2013 at 4:18 pm
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            Hey FFA. What do you think will happen when all those applicants show up for a doctor’s appointment after 1-1 and the office says, sorry we can’t find that you have insurance. The patient said, I signed up and I am supposed to be covered now. The office says, where is your card? The patient says Obama said I was covered. They didn’t ask for a premium to be paid on the site. Oops! No premium paid, no insurance.

          • December 5, 2013 at 10:47 am
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            FFA – I was teasing you about who was lying. Naturally, this didn’t stop Agent or Sarg Major from not being able to distingush between the difference. Or even from Sarg Major having hurling a racist insult when given an unsolicted opportunity.

        • December 6, 2013 at 10:18 am
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          Actually Libby, there is a law called Obamacare that says you must use Healthcare.gov in order to get subsidies to lower costs. The only problem I see is that it doesn’t work and has no security for it. Yes, you can go on company websites and get some coverage if you want to pay the exhorbitant premiums.

          • December 6, 2013 at 10:27 am
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            Agent – unlike you, I actually understand the law. Not everyone qualifies for subsidies.

      • December 4, 2013 at 4:20 pm
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        Perplexxed, why bother with security when it just don’t work???

        • December 6, 2013 at 3:19 pm
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          Libby, if you understood the law, you wouldn’t be for it. You might have understood it was designed to cancel existing coverage for millions of Americans. How can that possibly be a good thing? What would have been wrong with making the law a completely voluntary situation, create some Pools for the PreX crowd so they could get coverage? Your perspective of this train wreck is appalling.

          • December 6, 2013 at 3:38 pm
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            I’m not for it.

    • December 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm
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      • December 4, 2013 at 4:12 pm
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        Celtica, your a better candidate then OBama. Besides from what I read in here, I am more independent then anything… Tea party type as I do believe that we are taxes enough already.

        • December 4, 2013 at 4:24 pm
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          I wouldn’t quite go that far with Celtica FFA. She is a true believer and thinks this law is the best thing since sliced bread. By the way, we need to hold some people accountable and roll some heads. Following is a short list.
          1. The Progressive Minion lawyers that wrote it.
          2. Every Democrat who voted for it without reading it.
          3. Kathleen Sebelius who has been in charge of the implementation and rollout.
          4. The Website vendors who had the gall to design the worst website in modern history and collect nearly a billion of our tax dollars.
          5. The CMS head who worked hand in hand with Sebelius to screw it up.
          6. President Obama who championed the worst law ever conceived and rammed it down our throats.

          • December 4, 2013 at 4:44 pm
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            Agent – 1) Yep. 2) Yep. 3) Yep. 4) Yep. 5) Yep. 6) Yep.

            On the Celtica / Jed Bush comment, I was just trying to point out that any Bush is better then the piece of crap in there now. Celtica don’t even defend him anymore, She just bashes Bush…

            In a nut shell, I believe we have 100% agreement that Obama Sucks.

          • December 4, 2013 at 4:50 pm
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          • December 4, 2013 at 5:01 pm
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            Agent- nailed it again!

            But you know what? It’s really Bush’s fault and you are a racist….lol

          • December 4, 2013 at 5:08 pm
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            Libby, what would be the east Coast word you would use for him?

          • December 4, 2013 at 5:11 pm
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            Celtica, I did know that. Sorry to bash your messiah.
            For what its worth, I still think you would do a better job then this _______…

          • December 4, 2013 at 5:28 pm
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            FFA- I’m east coast and we say loooooooooooooooser. And he sucks!

          • December 4, 2013 at 5:42 pm
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          • December 4, 2013 at 6:00 pm
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            Jack, I knew what you would say. If I were in vegas, I would have won some cash on that one….
            So, off to Ho Chunk!!!
            The American Indians know how to keep their gamblers happy!

          • December 5, 2013 at 9:03 am
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            Reps have had better candidates for some time – what we need are smarter voters.

          • December 5, 2013 at 9:19 am
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            wvagt,

            RNC: “How can we attract voters?”

            Right wing lemming (ex. wvagt, bob, Agent, Sarge, Patti, Always Amazed, etc.): “Let’s insult them. Then they will like us and vote for our candidates.”

            Brilliant strategy!

            If the Republicans keep thinking that, they will keep on losing.

          • December 6, 2013 at 1:45 pm
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            wvagt wrote, “Reps have had better candidates for some time – what we need are smarter voters.”

            999; there are 3 things and they are umm, ummm; Sarah Palin; Michelle Bachmann; We had portfolios of women and I can’t have an illegal working at my house I’m running for office for Pete’s sake; Rick “Don’t Google my last name” Santorum; I’ll stop.

            The best candidate you had in the last 2 elections, John Huntsman, wasn’t even given a chance because he’s not base-worthy of the evangelicrazy right who is currently running the GOP (with the help of the Koch Bros). I may have voted for Huntsman had I been given the opportunity.

        • December 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm
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          Dear FFA:

          Never have I bashed Jeb Bush (who does have a slim chance if he can get that George Bush baggage off his back). Stop making things up as you go along.

          • December 4, 2013 at 7:07 pm
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            One of the Sunday Am Political shows was talking about Political Dynasties. Jeb was in the conversation along with Bill & Billary. They stated the Kennedys were the tops when it comes to that. Remember – “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”.

            My, how the dem philosophy as changed…

            BTW, good mood today. Set three more closes for Thurs & Friday. Bringing in about $16K in new premium money all while I was in IJ on the 20% contract. hmmmm. So, you have till late tomorrow afternoon to come up with your responses to my late day posts. May be past Libbys working time as the bigger of the two is a bit of a road trip…

            I honesty do luve my job…

          • December 6, 2013 at 3:13 pm
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            Planet, I hate to disappoint you, but Huntsman wasn’t the chosen one for a good reason. No good ideas and much too much RINO in him to appeal to voters. He faded very fast as I recall.

          • December 6, 2013 at 3:36 pm
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            Agent,
            So you go with Romney who has the same healthcare reform in his state that President Obama has for the country. The guy who uses every tax loophole he can and won’t show us his tax filings for the previous ten years unlike his OWN FATHER did (and started as a trend, by the way). The guy who has an elevator for his car in one of his several homes, but is “in touch” with the middle class and those lower than him. The guy who blurts, “who let the dogs out” to a group of African Americans. The 47% guy. The guy who has portfolios of women. The guy who ran Bain Capital, which ruined countless lives with layoffs and pension cuts. I can go on, but I’d just like to say, thank you to all the conservatives who helped Mitt Romney receive the nomination. President Obama even fell asleep during a debate and still won in a landslide. When the GOP comes back to reality, I’ll start considering their candidates again. Until then, I’m either looking at the Democrat or the Independent. And, I am praying Bernie Sanders chooses to run. He would be a great Independent and may actually have an outside shot (but not as good as Obama’s outside shot – dude’s got a mean southpaw jumper).

          • December 6, 2013 at 3:44 pm
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            Yup. That’s his guy!

        • December 4, 2013 at 11:05 pm
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          FFA, I would not go that far-

          • December 5, 2013 at 5:28 pm
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            Sargeant, I have been meaning to ask you about what is going on with the Detroit bankruptcy situation. I understand all those legacy city employee pensions are in jeopardy and will be at least renegotiated since they are about $20 Billion in the hole. What do you think will happen?

          • December 5, 2013 at 5:33 pm
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            FFA, do you know that JFK would be considered a Conservative in today’s world? He actually had some common sense and was for tax cuts to stimulate the economy and jobs. I would call him more of a Truman Democrat. We haven’t seen much of them in many years. Of course, he would have been caught with his extra curricular activities in today’s world just like Slick Willy was. The media tended to look the other way back then when he was slipping Marilyn in the back door when Jackie was out of town. That was the Kennedy way and the way they were all wired.

          • December 5, 2013 at 5:54 pm
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            Sarge, I didn’t. I think it was Face the Nation that did.

          • December 5, 2013 at 6:22 pm
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            Agent,

            Do you know that President Reagan would be considered a Liberal in today’s world? Just read the Ludwig von Mises Institute article.

    • December 5, 2013 at 12:54 pm
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      Yes Always, I wonder how he is going to get Obamacare funded with only 22% participation of the young and healthy. Where are those 7 million enrollees coming from? How can the 5.5 million cancelled obtain affordable coverage to beat a 1-1-14 deadline? Are they concerned about security of their personal information? They should be since there is no security.

      • December 6, 2013 at 10:12 am
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        Ron, did you know that JFK would be considered a Conservative in today’s world? He was the last of the Truman Democrats that had some common sense. Now, they are almost all Progressive Socialist Democrats of the worst order.

        • December 6, 2013 at 11:35 am
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          Agent,

          Why are you telling me this?

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          • December 6, 2013 at 1:47 pm
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            Saint Reagan has done more to ruin this country with “trickle down” than all the other Presidents combined. Saint Reagan sucks arse!

  • December 4, 2013 at 4:23 pm
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    Agent, I am guessing the Bank Ruptcy attorneys are going to get busy.

    What do you think about Jed Bush for President? We can go for 8 more years of Bush in office… He would be better then OfnBama.

    • December 4, 2013 at 4:30 pm
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      Bankruptcy attorneys? Haven’t you heard about the bailout package that Obama is doing for the insurance industry since no money is coming in and they will have to pay the PreX claims sure to follow? This will make AIG & the banks look like childs play.

      I don’t know about Jeb Bush. The Bush name has been tarnished. He would be better as an appointee if the Republicans take back the White House in 16. I do agree that almost anyone is better than what Obama has been. Of course, they tout Hillary, but she has a lot of baggage and just think what she will look like in 3 more years. I think Scott Walker has a shot if he is interested. I don’t like Christie since his RINO leanings are a bit much. That guy Lee in Utah is also looking good and Ted Cruz would be great.

      • December 4, 2013 at 6:45 pm
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        • December 4, 2013 at 6:59 pm
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          Caltica, you better rethink Walker. He balanced the budget. Got the unions on the “Be Reasonable” Program, creating jobs, got the Badger Care fixed, lowered unemployment rate, did exactly what he said he would do with out the political lies, he balanced the budget, he balanced the budget…. Not to mention was the first politician ever in the history of the US to fight off recall.
          He has done a lot of good for a lot of people.
          You can not argue against him with that track record. The guy is solid. And reasonable.
          How has DC – anyone Dem or Rep – done with the budget? Even if he was a dem, I would vote him in. He is a do’er, not a talker.

          • December 5, 2013 at 8:22 am
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            I had forgotten about Walker. I do remember, now that you mention it, his successes. Do you think he has what it takes to run the country?

            While it’s likely he wants to move up to the national stage, being a good govenor doesn’t mean he wants to run for president. I guess we’ll see.

          • December 5, 2013 at 9:25 am
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            From what I have seen so far, I like Governor Walker also. Representative Ryan would also be a good candidate from the Republicans for whom I could see myself voting.

            I will be very interested to see the Republican nominating process. I hope they can finally provide a fiscally conservative candidate who stays away from social issues.

          • December 5, 2013 at 10:44 am
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            FFA: As a centrist, I do consider moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats. The Tea Party is not moderate, so voting for Walker as a Tea Party candidate is a no go.

          • December 5, 2013 at 1:02 pm
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            FFA, too bad your guy Quinn doesn’t learn a little about what Walker has done to straighten up Wisconsin. Of course I understand that there are forces of evil in Illinois that like it just like it is since prohibition was repealed and the bootleggers became legitimate. The Daley empire has been around a long time and they still control that state. Corruption and thugs and not one Republican among them.

          • December 5, 2013 at 3:47 pm
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            Celtica I have no idea what centrist means. Keep in mind, I was just a C Student through College. So, in the future, dumb it down for me.

            I don’t know if Walker calls him self a Tea Party guy or not. What I do know is that he gets the job done.

          • December 5, 2013 at 5:23 pm
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            Wow Ron, you are sounding lucid on your comment on Walker. He is a good man who makes sense and doesn’t lie about his intentions. He is following through on his promises and is showing real leadership which we haven’t had in a very long time. Ryan is a good man, but I don’t think he is strong enough and he is a House member and they generally don’t make good Presidential candidates just like Senators don’t. The candidate has to come from the 30 Republican Governors and someone will emerge in the next year or so.

          • December 5, 2013 at 6:55 pm
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            Agent says “too bad your guy Quinn doesn’t learn a little about what Walker has done to straighten up Wisconsin”

            FFA says, you cant teach a coconut.

          • December 6, 2013 at 10:12 am
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            Agent – so Ron’s a jerk when he disagrees with you, but he’s “lucid” when he does? You’re a piece of work.

        • December 5, 2013 at 5:25 pm
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          And Celtica, no thank you for providing a community organizer Socialist with no experience to screw this country over.

          • December 6, 2013 at 3:06 pm
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            Hey Libby, I was in total shock when Ron actually said something that made sense and then didn’t start ranting about Republicans needing better candidates or citing another leftist article written by far left Paul Krugman.

          • December 6, 2013 at 3:13 pm
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            Ron always makes sense, Agent. You’re just too dense to know it.

  • December 4, 2013 at 4:39 pm
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    Agent, I meant for the individual people that need med attention that think they have coverage because “OBama said so”…. what Homer Say???
    Yep, the carriers will be just fine.
    I agree on Walker. He is the man getting things done.

    • December 4, 2013 at 5:35 pm
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      I agree about the individual bankruptcies when there is no coverage and the medical bills pile up. Doctor’s practices and hospitals are going to be on the hook for a lot of unpaid bills. Some may fold their tents as well. This is like looking down into a deep abyss that has no bottom.

    • December 5, 2013 at 5:18 pm
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      FFA, Celtica doesn’t know what a Centrist/Moderate is either. These are the people that like it both ways. They say they are for fiscal responsibility but don’t mind the government running up a trillion dollar deficit each year and a total debt of $17 Trillion. By the way, there are very few Centrist/Moderates in Congress anymore. The Blue Dogs were close, but they were defeated in 2010 after being coerced to voting for Obamacare by Ms Pelosi of “We have to pass it to see what is in it” fame. She gave them a swell going away party.

  • December 4, 2013 at 6:15 pm
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    Agent, If not Uncle Jed Bush, how about Jethro??? He don gragaetaed the 5th grade. He may be too stupid to lie. Plus he was a dubble naut spy!

    • December 4, 2013 at 6:18 pm
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      Hey, Jethro Bodine could not possibly do worse. He might even go swimming in the cement pond in front of the White House. I am sure the visitors would get a kick out of that. Convert the 18 ton limousine into the jalopy they used to drive.

      • December 5, 2013 at 4:14 pm
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        JED!!! GIT MY GUN!!!! I loved Granny!!

        • December 6, 2013 at 10:06 am
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          Let Ellie May be Secretary of State. She wouldn’t have let our Americans die in Benghazi without helping them.

  • December 4, 2013 at 10:27 pm
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    Libby said-” I guess we could have a battle of the polls, but it seems pointless, as they are useless.
    No need to weep after reading.”

    Well Libby I would not brag about a 45% approval rating. That means the majority of the people in the USA disapprove of him. I am weeping with laughter.

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      • December 5, 2013 at 12:30 pm
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        No Libby, I can do simple math and he is a loser, not to mention the worst lying President in history. The only time he lies is when his lips move. As far as the article, whenever the article appears to be in your favor you use it and when not you forget it. If you replaced Obozo with George Bush, you would be raving. As far as a right wing rag- You used it, not me- Hahaha

        • December 5, 2013 at 1:27 pm
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          That’s the stupidest argument I’ve ever heard. Who would cite a source that doesn’t support their position except an idiot?

  • December 4, 2013 at 10:36 pm
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    Here is a Newsmax story for you Libby. Seems like Toronto’s Mayor is more popular than Obama and he is a crackhead-LOL

    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rob-ford-popularity-obama/2013/11/22/id/538242?ns_mail_uid=40666815&ns_mail_job=1547292_11232013&promo_code=15B64-1

    Of course I have thought for a long time that maybe Obama was on crack, so who knows!

    • December 5, 2013 at 2:42 pm
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      Good one Sarge. There are those old photos of Obama smoking weed so we know he at least indulged in that. Crack, well, I wouldn’t put it past him.

      • December 5, 2013 at 5:11 pm
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        Always, the crack mayor of Toronto has higher approval ratings than Obama right now. They have stripped him of official duties and he is still has a higher approval rating. Perhaps we should strip Obama of his official duties and let him go golfing where he won’t do any more damage.

      • December 5, 2013 at 8:05 pm
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        Seems the GOP Congress has a little crack problem itself. You really need to clean your own house glass first before you throw stones. So much for getting better candidates.

        http://www.wbko.com/home/headlines/Florida-Congressman-Admits-to-Cocaine-Use-232778781.h

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          I wonder if Obama still uses? If he does, that would explain a lot.

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      Sar Maj — you must be on crack to think being a crack smoking, drink driving pig like Ford is to be admired. If that is your ideal candidate, bring on 2014 and 2016. You deserve everything poor candidate you get.

  • December 4, 2013 at 11:21 pm
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    According to CNN today at the noon hour, 5.9 million Americans have lost their insurance and about 250K have purchased insurance through the exchange. That is 250,000 for you Celtica so try to follow along. So Obama needs 7 Million sign ups at a minimum which means- 7 Mill plus 5.9 mill that lost their insurance is 12.9 mill sign ups needed to get Obama to the net number he wanted in the first forecast (wich no one believes anyway). Take off the 250K who signed up (mostly adverse risk) and he is now short 12.65 million. Great

    • December 5, 2013 at 1:09 pm
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      Sargeant, I am not sure the 250K really have purchased insurance since there is no payment mechanism on the still unfinished site. We have all been around long enough in the insurance business to know that the premium is the consideration to have insurance coverage. Just being put in a line waiting for issuance will do no good when 1-1-14 rolls around in a few short weeks. Is that what they mean by free insurance? See how many doctors will take it. Many don’t take Medicaid either and a lot of people have been sent to that for coverage.

      • December 6, 2013 at 11:33 am
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        Agent, you are right but the numbers are so ridiculous that I thought I would give them the benefit of the doubt-Ha. It even gets worse when you start looking at the break even numbers needed to make it work. The 7 mill was the first pass.

        • December 6, 2013 at 3:01 pm
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          Sargeant, I was watching O’Reilly last night and he made a valid point. He said the real end to Obamacare will be when all the doctors won’t accept it to treat someone. We have already seen the shrinking networks. They cited on populous county, I think in Florida who has 7 doctors to treat 250,000 residents. Hmm. I wonder what the waiting time will be to see patients. Can we say rationed care or no care at all?

  • December 5, 2013 at 2:36 pm
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    OMG – you can’t make this stuff up!

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-calls-on-bartenders-to-host-happy-hours-for-obamacare/article/2540165

    Yes, let’s have a happy hour to get the younger crowd signed up for Obama care. What a joke indeed. Sure seems like he’s grasping for straws to me.

    • December 5, 2013 at 3:49 pm
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      Well Amazed, if you look at the Colo site, it does promote promiscuity and drunkenness…

    • December 5, 2013 at 5:08 pm
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      Yes, he is dangling those carrots in front of the young crowd, but recent polls suggest they are rejecting the message. Only 22% in one poll were thinking about applying.

  • December 5, 2013 at 3:51 pm
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    as of 11:30pm Chicago time, the web site was not working. We are trying at all different hours of the day and getting the same results – NOTHING BUT A WASTE OF TIME. victimized by yet another OBama LIE.

  • December 5, 2013 at 4:00 pm
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    jw says regarding Walker – “Do you think he has what it takes to run the country?”

    Me personally, I think he does not have enough experience at this time.

    He knows how to run an election – he has won two including a recall. I know he can make the hard decisions that need to be made and make them stick. He has lived up to his campaign hype. He has not hit his Unemployment Rate Goal yet. That’s largely due to Milwaukee run by a Democrat that is doing nothing to protect jobs from moving away. Back out Milwaukee, and he has exceeded his Election Promise on his Unemployment Goal. It is widely thought the knuckle head in Mil let the jobs leave so as to dis credit Walker during the recall.

    I would look at other candidates before I voted for him. If he shakes put to be the best man given his inexperience, I would vote for him.

    • December 5, 2013 at 4:49 pm
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      FFA- I think Walker needs to spend 6-8 years community organizing to get some real experience….LOL.

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        Jack so long as he don’t get his training in Illinois….

      • December 5, 2013 at 5:01 pm
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        Jack, I don’t think the country has that long to find a leader.

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          So Jack, did you see the latest revelation on Obamacare. It is on the Fox site today. They are bringing in John Podesta as part of a shake up. Podesta was a former aid to Clinton back in the day and then left to found the Center for American Progress, a democratic think tank. Yes, he is a sweetheart just like Zeke Emanuel. I wonder if Sebelius head will finally roll after they shake it all up.

    • December 5, 2013 at 4:50 pm
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      FFA- Maybe join,get married in and go to a church where it’s preached that black men have caused all the problems in the world too….lol.

    • December 5, 2013 at 4:54 pm
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      FFA- maybe even convert to Islam, rape a couple of white women,stone a few adulterers,burn a few Christian churches down and behead some children. ooops….that would be his cabinet appointments…nevermind.

      • December 5, 2013 at 5:14 pm
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        Jack, your on a roll today!

    • December 5, 2013 at 5:06 pm
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      FFA, did the country elect a man with experience in 08 and 12? I think Walker has gotten plenty of experience in the past few years dealing with the thugs on the left. In three more years, he should have enough executive experience to do the job. Please, no more House or Senate candidates should run or minions in the Administration. We need it to come from the Governor ranks who can manage budgets and will appoint good people for a change to do whatever is necessary to recover the country.

      • December 5, 2013 at 5:14 pm
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        All good points Agent.

  • December 5, 2013 at 4:05 pm
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    BTW, at 11:30 last night, the web sit was not working.

    • December 5, 2013 at 4:59 pm
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      Interesting that you mentioned the site FFA. I got an email today from a friend with a link you could click to bring up Healthcare.gov. You click on it and up pops the site with the cute gal that was on it, but not anymore. If you click on “Apply Now”, the apply button jumps all over the Home page and you can’t put a cursor on it. I laughed a while on that one. It must be almost as frustrating for the average consumer to try to apply for this debacle. They are now queing people to wait in line for coverage and their is still no payment mechanism so no insurance on 1-1. Should the consumer that thinks they have Healthcare just send their medical bills to Obama after 1-1 and he can cut a check for them?

  • December 5, 2013 at 4:11 pm
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    • December 6, 2013 at 10:25 am
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      PC – Typical Republican bull . Start off sounding all genuine and end with insulting us. Take your condescending post and shove it.

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        PC – in case you hadn’t noticed, I am not defending the ACA. I agree it’s a fiasco. I do, however, support our President and the fact that he is trying to do something about healthcare reform. Alot more than any Republican president has done.

        And my skin is plenty tough. Bring it on bitch. I already told you I’m in a foul mood today, so I’d love to spar with you.

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          Libby said:

          “I do, however, support our President…”. And, that’s where she lost me.

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            You didn’t put me in a foul mood. I woke up that way. Letting loose on all you fools actually helps to improve my mood.

        • December 6, 2013 at 4:48 pm
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          Trying to do something about healthcare reform. Well, perhaps he could have joined forces with the Republicans who also had ideas on how to reform it. This reach across the isle he was pandering when he was running was nothing but a slew of deceit. Now his a$$ is in a stir and that’s just where it belongs. You can support the king of lies if you want to, Libby. A lot of Americans have woken up and his popularity is falling, especially with the younger voters which caught us all by surprise. Obama only wants to do what HE wants to do and look where it has gotten us.

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            If all you Republicans weren’t so dense, you would realize he DID reach across the aisle and based the ACA on not only the Heritage Foundation plan (a right-wing rag) but also the plan implemented by your own Mitt Romney in MA. How much more bi-partisan can you get? He should have done what he initially wanted and gone with a single payer option. But you’d bitch about that, too. It doesn’t matter what he does or did. You would be against it.

    • December 6, 2013 at 10:57 am
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      Patti,

      I will be happy to answer all of your questions if you can answer this one:

      When have I ever expressed support of this law, Representative Pelosi or Senator Reid?

      Agent has not been able to answer that question, but maybe you can.

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        Ron–you show support for it each and every time you defend the Loser in Charge.

        • December 6, 2013 at 11:49 am
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          Patti,

          I do not defend President Obama across the board. I only provide facts when people make inaccurate statements. If you have read all of my posts I have criticized him for this law, Benghazi and the handling afterward, lack of transparency, his inexperience, etc. I am more upset that the republicans cannot nominate a better candidate.

          If you do not know the difference, then you are hopeless.

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          • December 6, 2013 at 3:10 pm
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            That’s right, Agent. Blame the media for your sorry-ass candidates. That’s what Republicans do. They play the blame game but do nothing to actually effect change. Just a bunch of whiney complainers. Would you like a little cheese with your whine?

      • December 9, 2013 at 6:18 pm
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        Libby, if you weren’t so dense, you would have remembered the Blair House meeting back at the start. Obama said no thanks to all Republican ideas and said to get on the back of the bus. The Omnipresent One thought he could pull it off with his minions like Pelosi & Reid and having Sebelius in charge of the implementation. What a colossal mistake. He also thought the country was ready for the radical transformation he thought he could impose. He will probably set the Democratic Party back at least 20 years after the next landslide/shellacking. Can you name one Democrat other that Pelosi & Reid who still think this was a good idea? They are running, but they can’t hide.

  • December 5, 2013 at 5:12 pm
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    When in FLA, I saw a piece on CNN about that gal. She wasn’t even a citizen, but working on a Visa (I think is term). She stated it has ruined her reputation and the practice she was in.
    The great job killer strikes again! It was in the same segment they were showing the Colo ads. Wish I could remember the other web site with that fat guy on it. It was promoting the don’t worry about morbid obesity theme. Why? Because its covered.

    But don’t worry about coverage, we can always borrow more $$ from China.

    • December 6, 2013 at 10:45 am
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      Hey FFA, how about the gal from Washington State who wrote the President saying how much she loved Obamacare and it was so affordable etc? Oops! Wrong rates were quoted, no subsidies since she made too much and all of a sudden, it became the Unaffordable Care Act so she will not buy and will pay the fine. She is totally embarassed that he read her letter on air and is now disenchanted with the law and the process.

    • December 6, 2013 at 10:46 am
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      She also has not signed up for Obamacare and she was the poster child on the site.

    • December 6, 2013 at 3:54 pm
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      Well Libby, we may get our wish in 2014 because the polls have Democrats who voted for this travesty are polling badly so the shellacking of 2010 will be child’s play. All we need are candidates who are taking in oxygen, giving off carbon dioxide and don’t comment on social issues and we will be fine. The next election is going to be about the economy, taxes and health care, not abortion, birth control or gay marriage.

      • December 6, 2013 at 4:04 pm
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        Bring it on. It won’t happen, though. Republicans can’t help
        proselytizing.

        • December 6, 2013 at 4:23 pm
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          Progressives can’t stop talking about Social Issues when the country’s economy is going in the toilet Libby. Republicans need to stop talking about those things and concentrate on hammering home all the economic issues we face and how to correct them. It starts with a total house cleaning of government, dismantling several departments and agencies and sending a couple million federal workers to the unemployment line.

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          I don’t disagree, Agent. But it won’t happen because of the evangelical nutjobs on your ticket.

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    If you can get PBS out of Chicago, tune in at 07:00pm for a run down on the pension issue in IL. Been reading some of the comments posted on his FB page. Guess who don’t like him????

    He is another make the hard decisions kind of guy. Should be running for Gov, but he aint got the $$$$. I think any average Joe that cant afford the TV ads would better a Gov then one of the fat cat dems… I single out dems because I cant remember the last rep in the Gov Mansion.

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      Got the date wrong on the PBS broadcast… Missed it.

  • December 6, 2013 at 11:17 am
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    hmmmm….I wonder if Sarah Fluke has signed up for (ummmm…I mean….has TRIED to sign up for) Obamacare?

  • December 6, 2013 at 12:16 pm
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    Agent, on the Detroit bankruptcy, it is going to happen and the last lawsuit was tossed out. So they are moving forward. It looks like this will be the model bankruptcy for other broke cities to follow.
    The pension issues have been compounding for years. The pension and healthcare benefits account for at least 12 of the 18.5 billion in debt. Defined benefit pension plans and free healthcare benefits, underfunded by the thugs who ran the city. It seems the city took from the pension fund and mismanaged the assets or stole the money. Then when they needed to find pension money they borrowed the money and continued to borrow. (Sounds like the current federal government. Borrow from Social Security and give them an IOU). In the meantime the Democrat thugs that ran the city did things like put all of their family on city and school payroll even though they never reported for work or even had a job assignment. They just collected a check every week and collected benefits including a pension. When the emergency manager took over they found (through an audit) that there were 367 people drawing a paycheck and benefits from the Detroit City School system that never worked there.
    PS- 97% of the people who voted in the last 2 federal elections were Democrat and voted for Obama.

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      • December 6, 2013 at 12:37 pm
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        Hey Libby, he lives there and pays attention to what is going on instead of trying to find a website to do his thinking for him.

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      • December 6, 2013 at 3:47 pm
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        Libby-
        Here you go, here is my source, The Detroit Free Press Newspaper and I quote- “In the 2012 election, 97% of Detroit’s voters and 95% of African Americans nationwide cast ballots for President Barack Obama.”

        Here is the entire article

        http://www.freep.com/article/20131206/NEWS06/312060079/Rand-Paul-Detroit-economic-club-presidential-hopeful

        So what is your saying? “Read it and weep”- HAHAHAHAHA! You moron

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            Why use moron? Because it is one of your favorite terms. Read your post above mine to Agent.- Wow.

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            I call Agent a moron for making a moronic statement, so you call me a moron? Real mature, Sarge. LOL!

  • December 6, 2013 at 12:20 pm
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    Agent,
    Thanks for taking Fielder and sending us Joe Nathan. Not sure I have it figured out but thanks. I know it cost the Tigers 30 mill to send you Prince but I think Nathan will make the Tigers a good closer and that is what cost us the WS

    • December 6, 2013 at 12:42 pm
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      Well Sargeant, if Nathan’s arm holds up, he will save some games for the Tigers. He will be 39 next year so you never know about veteran relievers and how long they will last. If he is not overworked, he will probably do ok. I am not sure what the Rangers will do for a closer. Feliz wasn’t bad, but could be wild, then they tried to make a starter out of him, but he hurt his arm and now he will probably be on the DL more than active. They may try to trade for a closer. Daniels seems to be active this off season. By the way, Kinsler will be a good second baseman for you.

      • December 6, 2013 at 4:51 pm
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        Agent, I agree Nathan has a some age on him but we have not had a closer in 3 years and it has killed us. I think that the Tigers recognized that when they signed him. 2 year deal. As far as Kinsler, yes I think he will do well and he likes the Tigers. Also, we now have 3 second basemen and we can shed at least 1 of them although I like Omar Infante. I can’t wait to see the Tigers/Rangers match up next season. Should be fun to watch

        • December 6, 2013 at 5:13 pm
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          Well Sargeant, You have the Cy Young winner, the Most Valuable player and now one of the premier relievers. I am sure the Yankees have taken note and will be spending big time to compete. I am glad the Tigers and Rangers are not in the same division although we do need help in beating the “Moneyball” Athletics. They do more with less payroll than any team in baseball. They have a very sharp General Manager and he is good at pulling the wool over the other teams General Managers.

    • December 6, 2013 at 4:57 pm
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      Yes Sargeant, Libby often resorts to name calling when she doesn’t have a leg to stand on. If you remember a couple of years ago, she got into it with Bob and when she couldn’t win the argument, she started the name calling and told him to get lost. That is what Libby the liberal is famous for. By the way, anyone who believes in the Progressive cause is a total moron. Their theories of how to govern have never worked in the history of the world and the present government is the most recent example.

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      Yes, I saw that too. I wonder how big the deficit will be next year after they pile on the regulations. This should be grounds for Impeachment and dismantling many federal agencies.

  • December 6, 2013 at 1:07 pm
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    Is there a democrat on here that can admit Obama has a habit of lying to the American people without making reference to past presidents?

    We are adults here….right? We do tell our children that just because your friend does something wrong it doesn’t make it right for you to do it too.

    • December 6, 2013 at 4:17 pm
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      Jack, they really don’t have anything positive to say about the agenda, so they just keep on blaming Bush and the Republicans for the failure of the agenda.

  • December 6, 2013 at 1:25 pm
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    I don’t hear anyone defending Obama any more. Blaming Bush yes, defending Obama – Anyone left???

    • December 6, 2013 at 5:18 pm
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      Well FFA, looks like your Bears are going to tangle with my Cowgirls Monday night on the frozen tundra of Soldier Field. That ought to be interesting. I wonder if it will be snowing so hard the players will be hard to see. Both teams are pretty average this year so maybe it is an even match up. I am assuming you still won’t have your number 1 quarterback, but I could be wrong. It may come down to how many turnovers a team has to decide the outcome. Anyway, if we lose to the Bears, I will still be your friend.

      • December 6, 2013 at 5:30 pm
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        Caught sports this AM. Jay practiced yesterday full speed. Trestman would be a fool to put him on the field. Its gonna be cold and windy on Monday Night. Predicting 3″ of snow in Chi Town on Sunday, so crank up the running game. Murry should post 150 yards as we got no L backers with experience. The kids are gonna be good, but they are kids. Look for Forte to be running hard right down your throats with Jeffries in the flat.
        Hard to predict the out come of this one. We have no defense this year and you got a hard runner coming right down our throats…

        • December 6, 2013 at 5:46 pm
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          Well, we had this kid Dunbar that ran so hard the last game and had more yards than Murray. Then, he got hurt and is on IR the rest of the year. Murray is a good all purpose back, but he has always been injury prone as well. Forte & Jeffrey may have a big game in frozen conditions since our defense is suspect as well. I give the edge to the Bears just because of conditions and being used to it since the Cowgirls play in a domed stadium and never have those conditions to play at home in. By the way, we are getting some of that Chicago weather this weekend. 23 for a high tomorrow with sleet mixed with snow. Must be Global Warming!

        • December 9, 2013 at 10:01 am
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          So FFA, I saw in the paper this morning that the Bears had signed Jay Ratliff to augment their defensive line. He played several years for the Cowboys and was a stalwart in the line for them, then he got hurt. He never played another down and they ended up cutting him before this season. I suppose his salary was part of it and they thought he wouldn’t come back to the level he was at before getting hurt. It will be interesting to see how he plays tonight and if he can stop Murray from running.

          • December 9, 2013 at 1:03 pm
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            D Line is in need. Line Backers are worse off… Departure of Roach is showing big time. Urlacher days were over. Briggs injured is what it is. Roach would have been shining. Instead he is buried in the mucky waters of Oakland…

          • December 9, 2013 at 2:50 pm
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            FFA, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ratliff plays like a wild man tonight. Players tend to do that when they have been cut by the team they are playing. I am sure he would like to get in a lick on Romo and meet Murray in the hole on runs.

          • December 10, 2013 at 10:15 am
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            Well FFA, the game turned out about like I thought. The defenseless Cowgirls were scored on the first 8 times the Bears had the ball. 17 different defensive linemen used this year and none of them can rush the passer or stop the run and the linebackers and defensive backs cannot cover anyone. Wonderful Jerry Jones, the owner and general manager has done the worst job of putting a team together in the past 20 years. The Bears looked good, but Dallas makes other teams look very good. I like that Jeffery and he has great hands, even when the temperature is almost 0. They should be at least 9-4 instead of 7-6. Hope they follow through and win their division. I also think McCown is a very good quarterback and should continue to start.

          • December 10, 2013 at 10:17 am
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            Jeremiah Ratliff? When he was in Dallas, he called himself Jay Ratliff. Hmm, new name, re-start his career?

          • December 10, 2013 at 11:13 am
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            Jeffrey is a beast. Step aside Megatron (Sorry Sarge). I don’t know why Cowboys didn’t keep running full steam ahead. I have to blame the coach on that one. They could have powered it right down the Bears throats all night long like they did in the 1st & 4th quarters.

            You guys have got hit hard by the injury bug this year. Gruden was saying that your whole D Line was sitting on the couch at the beginning of the season. We see that aspect of a unit getting decimated by injury in Chicago – its the Line Backers… We need Briggs back quick.

  • December 6, 2013 at 1:31 pm
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    Just talked to my friend coming out of I Chip. He spent countless hours on the Web trying to get it done. Finally gave up and called the 800 number. He was told to call back several time as the web site was down. On his last call, it went for over an hour, he talked to several different people and – as he put it – the next one was dumber then the person that transferred him. He finally got someone that knew how to get a payment in.

    At this point, it just needs to be shut down completely. If I see OBama on TV lying about how great this is again, I may just kick in my tv screen.

    How any one can defend this guy or this law is beyond my comprehension. He has made a complete mess out of Health insurance.

    • December 6, 2013 at 2:38 pm
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      Hey FFA, the title of this article is 800,000 visitors attracted to Healthcare.gov as operation improved. I wonder if they used one of Ron’s websites to get that information. Judging from your comments and your friend’s experiences, I hardly think anything has improved. He might have gotten some help if he had talked to Earline. Remember her? She was fired from Obamacare for talking to Sean Hannity. She was very nice and I hope she likes her new job that Hannity and friends got for her. He also gave her the equivalent of her annual salary to get her off to a good start.

    • December 10, 2013 at 12:34 pm
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      Yes, FFA. We also don’t have coaches who can adjust to different conditions or what the other team is doing. Garrett was a Princeton graduate so Jones thinks he is smart. He is as smart as some of those Ivy Leaguer professors who are in DC setting policy. The current economic advisor is from Princeton and designed the Cash for Clunkers program that cost the taxpayers several billion when they were trying to save GM.

      Regarding the Cowboys, they cut Ratliff and have not signed any quality linemen this year. Jones should fire himself as GM. I am not sure his son would do much better. He is a yes daddy man with a cushy job, but apparently no influence on daddy.

  • December 6, 2013 at 3:07 pm
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    Well Finally, my producer got his ap in. Took over 40 hours of his time. Gave up on getting the subsidy up front so he will take it on the back end. Then I , as the agent of record got 8 emails notifying that he signed up. YEAA!!! All that time and one ap!

    • December 6, 2013 at 3:46 pm
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      So FFA, do you think he will have insurance by 1-1? Will he get a coverage confirmation by email? Will he get an ID card from the issuing carrier? Will he have his primary care doctor in the network? Curious minds want to know.

      40 hours of time when the President said it was as easy as shopping on Amazon.com. This may be the equivalent of going on Amazon about a hundred times.

      By the way, I want to try some new names for this signature law and you pick which one you like the best.
      1. Obamachaos
      2. Obamacaid
      3. Obombacare
      4. Nobamacare
      5. Bummercare
      6. Democare
      7. Progressivecare
      8. Liarcare
      9. Brokencare
      10. Barackcare

      • December 6, 2013 at 3:58 pm
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        Agent, How about

        *Rationcare

        *Obozocare

        *Unaffordablecare

        *Wescrewedyoucare

        *Youtrusteduscare

        *Chumpcare

        *Ubelievedthatshitcare

        *taxamillioncare

        *Suckercare

        • December 10, 2013 at 10:09 am
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          I have a new one this morning. How about Absurdcare?

      • December 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm
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        Sargeant, I must say you are creative with your names. Surely between these 19 names, we can pick a favorite. I am waiting for FFA to chime in.

        • December 6, 2013 at 5:18 pm
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          • December 6, 2013 at 5:50 pm
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            Go play in the snow Planet if you can’t stay on subject.

          • December 6, 2013 at 5:58 pm
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            I think Planet is still shell shocked over D Rose… He made his first press conference yesterday on crutches (of course) If a tear is a tear regardless of how big it is (mine was about 1.5 inches) he should be back 6-8 weeks… My wifes’ limp is diminishing. MRI shows Displaced Meniscus. That’s the magical number of three. So, for me no more meniscus issues…. I hope…

          • December 9, 2013 at 2:12 pm
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            would’nt be so good planet. From what I am reading in the IJ Viagra is covered. So how about Stand up & Salute care???

        • December 6, 2013 at 5:34 pm
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          Cutler care cause its broken???
          odummer care.
          obamacrap.
          dummercrap care..
          ofnbama care
          I have some more but would not want to post some of the words…

          • December 6, 2013 at 5:53 pm
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            Good one FFA. Planet may have inadvertently given us a new one: Trickledowncare. With the website still giving people fits, it is certainly slowed down to a trickle with the sign up process.

  • December 6, 2013 at 3:50 pm
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    Libby said- “Sarge – please cite a source for your last comment.

    Just in case you did not see my response libby, Here you go- Again

    Libby-
    Here you go, here is my source, The Detroit Free Press Newspaper and I quote- “In the 2012 election, 97% of Detroit’s voters and 95% of African Americans nationwide cast ballots for President Barack Obama.”

    Here is the entire article

    http://www.freep.com/article/20131206/NEWS06/312060079/Rand-Paul-Detroit-economic-club-presidential-hopeful

    So what is your saying? “Read it and weep”- HAHAHAHAHA! You moron

    LOL

    • December 6, 2013 at 4:14 pm
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      Well, I read the article too Sargeant. Rand Paul has some good ideas for Detroit, but there is a malignancy that needs to be cut out of that city which is corrupt Progressive Democrats in power. Could they all be recalled like the lawmakers in Colorado were? Unless they get some good leadership in that city, there will be no recovery in the economy or rebuilding the blighted crime ridden core of the city.

    • December 9, 2013 at 12:34 pm
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      Hey Sargeant, I saw an interesting article reported by the Daily Caller. A researcher named Keith Hall of the free market Mercatus Center researched and found that 41 states have seen their private sectors shrink from 2007-2012. Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Idaho and Nevada have seen the largest contractions. Nevada, home of Harry Reid has shrunk 13% below 2007 levels. Only three states have seen growth in the private sector by more than 2%. North Dakota has seen growth of 25%, mainly due to their oil and gas boom. Alaska also grew by 7%. Texas is the only state that ranks in the top 5 for both current economic climate and growth prospects. as it ranks 1st and 2nd respectively. There are 116 of the 1,000 largest companies headquartered in Texas including giants like AT&T, Exxon Mobil and Dell. The Texas economy is expected to expand 4.2% annually over the next 5 years. This is hard to do given the economic climate in the country and the policies of an anti business government. No wonder people are moving to Texas in great numbers to get away from blue states with their heavy taxation and over regulation.

      • December 9, 2013 at 1:00 pm
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        I am sure your govs arms are open wide welcoming the arrival of St Farm…

        • December 9, 2013 at 2:47 pm
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          They already have a significant presence FFA, they will just be getting bigger with the office in the Metroplex which may eventually dwarf their HO, assuming they even stay in Illinois. The libs like to say Texas is only creating low paying jobs. The last time I checked, insurance jobs were better than average. By the way, GEICO is putting in a big claims office in Katy, suburb of Houston. Creating 1,000 new jobs there. There must be something to this state with no state income tax, favorable environment for business, ready work force etc.

          • December 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm
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            They have to do something to lure people there. Nobody in their right mind would come of their own accord.

          • December 9, 2013 at 3:18 pm
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            Actually Libby, the ones in their right mind are the ones realizing there must be something to it. The ones in their left minds think the blue states are wonderful and like their high taxes and mediocre business climate. Gee, I wonder why the N/E is losing population and it is going south.

          • December 9, 2013 at 3:41 pm
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            Agent – I have never chosen my place of residence based on the political climate or tax rate. I think most normal people are the same. However, if my employer relocates there, I may have to follow for my career.

          • December 9, 2013 at 3:42 pm
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            Agent,

            GEICO has created over 2500 new jobs in New York. So what?

          • December 10, 2013 at 11:09 am
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            Libby says – ” I have never chosen my place of residence based on the political climate or tax rate”

            FFA Says – See Illinois….

          • December 10, 2013 at 11:29 am
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            FFA – if my loved ones were in IL, that’s where I’d be.

          • December 10, 2013 at 5:23 pm
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            Libby, I doubt it. You would go the closest state line and take one step. Its bad here and loved ones are moving away. I gone, one on his way out and a third looking to have his wife transfer out of state. Leaves me & my sister and I have the itch. I am refocusing on Delevan WI. I have not ruled out Keonsha or Racine. Beloit is off the table. Clinton is also another possibility of I can convince my wife that small town living is better.

        • December 10, 2013 at 11:12 am
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          FFA, I saw on the Daily Caller this morning that South Carolina is ready to pass a bill nullifying Obamacare for that state. If the bill passes, they will be the first state to exempt citizens and businesses from all participation in the Affordable Care Act. The bill’s main component prohibits agencies, officers and employees of the state from implementing any provisions of the Affordable Care Act, leaving implementation entirely in the hands of the Federal Government which lacks the resources to carry out the programs it mandates. The Supreme Court in Printz v United States said that states are not mere political subdivisions of the Federal Government, to carry out what the Federal Government does; they are sovereign entities. Congress can pass laws, but it cannot compel states to utilize either their treasury or personnel to implement those federal laws. I am sure Eric Holder will do his suing thing with them after this bill is passed.

          • December 10, 2013 at 11:30 am
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            And he’ll probably win…

          • December 10, 2013 at 6:14 pm
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            Perhaps not Libby. It is Constitutional. This could end up in the Supreme Court. They may rectify their earlier mistake.

          • December 10, 2013 at 6:16 pm
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            FFA, at least you are considering Wisconsin which has to look like paradise compared to Illinois. Walker has done good work there and the business climate has to be better.

    • December 9, 2013 at 4:49 pm
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      Sorry about your Lions Sargeant. I imagine if they played in decent conditions instead of a blizzard, they might have had a better chance of winning. I didn’t see much of it, but it looked like the snow was at least 6 inches deep and it was snowing so hard, one could hardly make out the players. Philly obviously liked it that way.

      • December 9, 2013 at 5:23 pm
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        Libby, I suppose I was lucky to be born in Oklahoma, raised there and moved to Texas for my career. Both states are conservative, have a great business climate and much better cost of living and lower taxation. People can’t help where they are born and where they make their living. However, in a free society, we can move around to better ourselves. I bet if you asked FFA or Sargeant, they would prefer to live and work down here rather than the cess pools of Chicago & Detroit.

        • December 10, 2013 at 9:07 am
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          If that were true, they would move there.

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    • December 9, 2013 at 4:45 pm
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      Hey Ron, I wonder how much the jobs in NY cost GEICO per person compared to the Texas jobs per person. I would imagine they have to allow more in NY due to the cost of living, taxation burden etc. Uncle Warren is nobody’s fool. He could have located a 1,000 employee office in a blue state and yet he chose Texas.

      • December 10, 2013 at 8:08 am
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        Agent,

        Uncle Warren is the same person who chose to locate a 2500 employee office in a blue state.

        NY – 2500 GEICO jobs
        TX – 1000 GEICO jobs

        NY wins

        • December 10, 2013 at 10:06 am
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          Texas just got these jobs idiot. Why didn’t he just make it 3,500 NY jobs? NY is losing jobs and people. I wonder why that is.

          • December 10, 2013 at 10:58 am
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            Agent,

            Please cite your source showing NY is losing jobs and people. Last I checked our population and net jobs have been increasing. If you have a source to dispute that, please provide.

          • December 10, 2013 at 10:59 am
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            New York just got their jobs, Agent.

            http://www.geico.com/about/pressreleases/2013/20130619/

            Hmmmmm. Can’t be all that bad in NY. TX remains now, and always, the loser.

          • December 10, 2013 at 11:02 am
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            Ron – he has no source. The U.S. census is only current to 2012 and it shows an increase in population in both states. New York has a higher median income, more businesses per capita, less people below poverty level, and they have more education. Texas sucks. Everyone knows that.

          • December 11, 2013 at 5:21 pm
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            Ron, just so you will know the source, Property Casualty 360 has reported today that our formerly bailed out AIG is investing $5 million+ in a new technology center in North Carolina and will hire about 300 workers. I wonder why this NY based giant is sending jobs to the south instead of keeping them in NY state.

          • December 12, 2013 at 9:25 am
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            Maybe because the Research Triange (Raleigh/Durham/Winston Salem) is a hotbed of IT professionals???

  • December 6, 2013 at 5:53 pm
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      Yes, I saw that. They were heavily in favor of Obama in the last election because they thought he would give them instant amnesty, Social Security and Healthcare. I think they are disenchanted now. I wonder what a ticket of Cruz/Rubio would do in the next election. Both these guys can speak the language.

    • December 10, 2013 at 8:12 am
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      Too bad President Obama can no longer depend on the Latino vote in future elections.

      You righties really need to spend more time selling your future Republican candidates than focusing on the approval numbers of someone who cannot run for re-election.

      • December 10, 2013 at 11:01 am
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        And you lefties, Ron should be waking up that people are rejecting the Progressive message. Make no mistake, Hilary is as big a Progressive as Obama and will still be doing the same things he has so she should be held accountable. I only hope she is eventually held accountable for Benghazi as well.

        • December 10, 2013 at 11:27 am
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          Agent – Just what is the “Progressive Message?” I have liberal social views, but no-one has clued me in any progressive message. Since you seem to think there is some widespread progressive conspiracy, can you let me know what it is?

          • December 10, 2013 at 12:24 pm
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            Libby, review the record of the past 5 years if you want to see Progressivism in action. Oh, I am sorry. True believers don’t think there has been anything going on. We must be racists for opposing Progressive Socialist policies of this President and his minions.

          • December 10, 2013 at 1:52 pm
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            Agent,

            Considering that governemnt spending, federal employment, federal budget to GDP, and the federal deficit have all been decreasing, and net jobs, stock market, and consumer confidence increasing since 2009, I would have to disagree that Progressive Socialist policies are in place.

            http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/

            I am not calling you racist, just ignorant of the facts. If you have different data, please cite your source.

          • December 10, 2013 at 3:28 pm
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            Just as I thought, you don’t know what the hell it is either. It’s just a rhetorical label you post on here for anyone that doesn’t think the same as you do. I’m no more a progressive socialist than I am a 6’2″ college basketball player.

  • December 6, 2013 at 6:21 pm
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    Cap, In a post a few hundred above this one, you blasted Romney for taking advantage of loop holes.
    Look into the Cook County deeds transfer when OBama bought his house with Rezco – a convicted felon – involved in the purchase.
    You will see with your own two eyes what a con job Obama and the con man ran.

    From what I have seen and read, Romney did not use any convicted felons to use his loop holes.

    I know things end up coming full circle. I cant wait for Ofnbama to get on the witness stand and be questioned about his involvement with the likes of Rezco & Levine. Matter of time when he cant hide behind executive privilege any more… I am sure mr fitzgerald is waiting.

    • December 10, 2013 at 6:11 pm
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      I truly feel sorry for you Ron that you don’t have a brain that can think and have to resort to websites to try to make a point. Your father in law had you pegged right. I can see your conversation with him. He makes a statement and you say “prove it” with some website evidence. He then tells you to go home, end of conversation with no pumpkin pie after Thanksgiving dinner.

      • December 11, 2013 at 7:59 am
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        Agent,

        I truly feel embarassed for your Economics professors. So, in your mind, it is OK to say whatever you want without having ANY evidence to support your position?

        I do not resort to websites any more than you do. You have cited Drudge, Fox, Newsmax and some other assorted right wing websites. The difference is that I provide data and cite my source.

        I am still waiting for your response to the article from the Ludwig von Mises Institute (not a leftist site) about President Reagan and his less than Friedman-like approach. Here is the link in case you lost it.

        http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=488

        • December 11, 2013 at 1:22 pm
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          Ron, you will never convince me that Ronny was a liberal and added to the economic woes of the country no matter how many bogus websites you use. I lived through that era and apparently you didn’t. Reagan inherited an economy from Carter that was almost as ugly as what Obama inherited. Instead of instituting Progressive ideas like the Stimulous which wasn’t a stimulous costing taxpayers several hundred billion, Cash for Clunkers which cost several billion more, hiring Progressive college professors who have made things worse, he rolled up his sleeves to recover the economy. Your President has done more to ruin this economy than any President in history all the while adding $6 Trillion to the debt and more to come with Obamacare and the cost of regulation by his pet agency EPA among others. It takes a little common sense to be a good leader and he lacks it.

          • December 11, 2013 at 1:42 pm
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            Agent,

            Did you even read the article? Do you know what the Ludwig von Mises Institute is? Hint: It is no where near Liberal, Progressive, or Socialist. Do you honestly believe that Friedman or Hayek would approve of the increased government spending and debt that occurred during President Reagan’s term?

            Please provide some DATA showing that the economy has gotten worse let alone giong into ruins. Do you not recall the Great Depression? I think you were still in college.

            Have you renounced your citizenship and moved out of the country yet? Until then, he is your President too.

  • December 9, 2013 at 8:27 am
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    You guys see Zeke Emanuel finally tell everyone you could keep your doctor on the news this weekend with Chris Wallace. ” And if you want to keep your doctor, you can pay for it”

    It’s math for you people still in denial about this thing blowing up. 2+2=4…..seriously it really does!

    • December 9, 2013 at 4:41 pm
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      Zeke is Rahm’s brother so I am sure he is a real sweetheart Jack. Wallace caught him in the big “lie” and he didn’t like it much. He and many others in this administration should be occupying a cell next to Bernie since they passed this scheme.

    • December 9, 2013 at 6:06 pm
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      Jack, did you see the article on Newsmax that the leading hospitals in the country won’t be in network under Obamacare? They listed Sloan Kettering in NY, MD Anderson in Houston and Cedars Sinai in California. The replacement might be a triage tent in K Mart parking lot. Good luck if a patient needs assistance on a very serious condition. They better have a lot of disposable income to get treatment.

    • December 10, 2013 at 12:21 pm
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      Wonderful Zeke is now the Marie Antoinette of Obamacare. Let them eat the higher premiums, deductibles, out of pocket expenses. We all know what happened to poor Marie.



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