Lawsuits Challenging Obamacare Cite Religion, Tax Issues

By Andrew Zajac and Andrew Harris | December 5, 2013
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  • December 5, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    Sheryl Frieman says:
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    Unfortunately, just another attempt at making the AFCA “bad”.
    Are they going to make sure Viagra is unavailable as well? With respects to “religious reasons” to make the program “bad”. Covering Birth control makes logical sense. Why bring additional children into an impoverished environment with people who do not know when to quit.
    Another attempt by the church to “keep woman in their place”.
    The AFCA is working just fine in all the states that put together their own exchange. The only problem is IT. I do not know of any program out there that was bug free upon its first release.

  • December 5, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    PM says:
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    Interesting that to obtain the subsidy, you have to show proof of id, but you do not have to show proof of ID to vote. I heard those poeple that thought proof of ID was a good thing were racist.

    What is the Democratic party that requires proof of ID for promised handouts from those non-Id carrying individuals that elected them?

    • December 5, 2013 at 4:26 pm
      Agent says:
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      PM, you must have read the same article I did in Freedom Outpost. Title was Obama is a Racist for Promoting Obamacare. He accuses Republicans of being racist for requiring a photo ID to vote since the poor people may not be able to do that. When these poor people try to get on Medicaid, they have to furnish 1. Birth Certificate or passport or 2. Power of light bill showing their address or 3. Something that shows their Social Security number or 4. recent pay check stub or tax return. Hmm! Obama must be a racist for all this.

  • December 5, 2013 at 3:34 pm
    FFA says:
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    I wonder if OBama factored in the cost of all this litigation when he did his cost estimates on this thing?
    When is he going to realize this is a bad law and scrap it?

    • December 5, 2013 at 4:21 pm
      Agent says:
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      FFA, The attorney’s in today’s society are operating in the most litegious society in the history of the world. Plaintiff’s, defendants, government all on retainder or salaried. They love it whether they win or lose because they will be paid. I really don’t think Obama counted on all this. He thought it would just sail through and everyone would be happy about it. Just dictate to the American people the Socialist Dream and they will love it once they find out what is in it or so he and minion Nancy thought.

    • December 6, 2013 at 12:24 pm
      Ned says:
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      Since when do liberals consider cost?!

      • December 6, 2013 at 3:20 pm
        txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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        Let’s see, how about the cost consideration for the jobs program military we have. The wars on terror and drugs.

      • December 6, 2013 at 6:54 pm
        County Line says:
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        Those on the political Left never consider cost, as long as they think they’re not paying for whatever the latest government give-away is.

        It is no surprise that the Millenials, who most often lean Left through youthful idealism, supported Obamacare becoming law. Now they’re running away from the Left in droves when waking up to the fact they are the target bearing the most disproportionate cost of the (Un)Affordable Care Act. They’re now discovering self interest, realizing that conserving one’s hard-earned assets isn’t evil as the Left always taught them.

  • December 6, 2013 at 11:03 am
    FarmerJohn says:
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    There should be no religious exemptions for anything. If you’re going to make stuff up that’s OK, just keep it within your own chosen cult.

    • December 6, 2013 at 11:28 am
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      Especially in the tax code. Those evangelical ministers rely heavily on the tithes from their flock so they can buy expensive suits, cars, and jewelry for their stay at home wives and their prostitute girlfriends.

      • December 9, 2013 at 7:40 pm
        bob says:
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        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

        • December 10, 2013 at 9:45 am
          Libby says:
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          Bob – there you go flying off the handle again without actually comprehending what’s being said. He wasn’t talking about he Catholic Church. He specifically said “Evangelical Ministers.” You know the ones; Jimmy Swaggart, Jim & Tammy Faye, Ted Haggard, James Dobson, etc.

          • December 10, 2013 at 9:59 am
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            Libby, for every Jimmy Swaggart that has been on the scene, there are 10,000 ministers and churches that do extremely good work without wasting money like the government does. Just in my church, we have planted several churches with the farthest being in Alaska. We assist the homeless, provided shelter to the victims of Katrina and volunteer for Meals on Wheels to the shut ins. What have Atheists done for the betterment of man?

          • December 10, 2013 at 11:34 am
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            Agent – I will not debate the merits of who does more charitable work. I was only responding to Bob’s tirade against txmouthbreatherboogereatertx’s post. He was talking about Evangelical Ministers, period.

          • December 10, 2013 at 11:57 am
            BS says:
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            Hi Agent,

            I’m not going to wade into the argument about tax exemptions for religious entities, but your comment made me curious about what kind of Atheist charities actually exist. A google search showed that a there are a number of Atheist charities doing a lot of good work. This site lists some of them: http://kylyssa.squidoo.com/Atheist-Charities. They provide similar assistance as the religious charities: soup kitchens, aid to victims of natural disasters (Katrina, Sri Lanka Tsunami, Haitian earthquake,) blood drives and toys drives for needy children.

            Your church has done a lot to help people in need, and that’s wonderful. But you don’t have to be religious or believe in God to be charitable and care about your fellow man.

          • December 11, 2013 at 10:52 am
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            Excellent article, BS. But I doubt Agent even clicked on the link. He’ll be posting his ignorant “What have Atheists done for the betterment of man?” comment again in a couple of days.

  • December 6, 2013 at 1:15 pm
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    No one can argue that ND is a Johnny Come Lately for a legit religious entity. If any organization should get a win on this issue, it would be ND.

    The damn web site don’t work so no one would be getting the coverage.

    • December 6, 2013 at 2:10 pm
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      In proper English we would say “doesn’t work” not “don’t work”. Press 1 for English. Go Irish!!!

      • December 6, 2013 at 3:34 pm
        FFA says:
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        Sorry, Im just a dum ass C student in college. No alphabet soup after my name.
        In proper English Affordable means I can write a check to cover the bill. So, I guess I took a page out of the OBama Dictionary. Of Course, he may have changed that since last night. He probably changes that more then his undies….

  • December 6, 2013 at 2:56 pm
    Sargeant Major says:
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    When you make the “Fighting Irish” mad over healthcare, you got a problem.

    GO IRISH!!!!!

    • December 6, 2013 at 3:35 pm
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      Lot of ND grads out there…

  • December 7, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Silence DoGood says:
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    A look at the cost structure of the ACA, for those who are interested. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Good luck.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Y-5rjsaJY&list=TLz23cR0tZZkbEhgY3yYkmUhYwd6-NM7gg



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