Obamacare November Enrollment Tops 250,000; Sebelius Seeks Probe of Botched Launch

By Alex Wayne | December 11, 2013

  • December 11, 2013 at 1:35 pm
    Scott R says:
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    She can’t be serious. Neither her nor the President ever once in three years said, “Hey, like me try this thing out, I want to see how it works…”? Want to find out what went wrong, look in the mirror. BTW, we want our money back you miserable failures.

  • December 11, 2013 at 1:39 pm
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    That old sow needs to step aside and let someone that can actually get the job done do it… Dumb bitch…

    • December 11, 2013 at 2:15 pm
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      Hey FFA, did your Producer get his confirmation of coverage yet? Is his doctor in network or does he have to go to Moline for treatment? By all means, let’s have a Blue Ribbon board investigate what went wrong. That should cost several million more and take a year to reach a conclusion. Is Sebelius going to investigate herself or CMS or just the vendors that screwed up? A billion dollars and counting. No problem, it taxpayer money, not the governments.

      • December 11, 2013 at 2:23 pm
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        He did not get anything yet. I am not sure if he has to change docs. My wife has to change one. I wasn’t happy with his treatment anyways. His answer is more steroid shots. Has her scheduling monthly appointments for them. Three more yesterday for a total of 15 in the days 60 days… Did you ever have to deal with Roid Rage??? Becoming part of my normal life.

        What went wrong… what a joke…

        Today I get an email from my GA. For me to sell on exchange, another batch of paper work.. Jump through one set of hoops just to end up jumping through another. Nothing but lies, lies and then more lies.
        I guess its not a lie if your speaking OBama. He don’t trust agents. Well, who can trust him any more…

        head need to roll… Start at the top.

        • December 11, 2013 at 2:24 pm
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          Give a new meaning to Trickle down…

          • December 11, 2013 at 5:47 pm
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            Hi Agent,

            I hope that you wife finds relief in this method of pain treatment. I have a childhood friend who has the same situation going on with her back as well. She is pain 24/7 but she is going to try physical therapy and ultrasound now and if that doesn’t work as a last resort she’ll do the stimulator. I have watched my dear friend suffer for the past 5 years with this and I honestly do not know how she does it. I’m sure you feel the same way about your wife. I had read an article in a medical magazine a while ago that claimed the suicide rate for people in constant pain is very high. I was not a bit surprised to find that out given what they have to endure. Please let me know how this works for her and I wish her the best.

          • December 13, 2013 at 3:42 pm
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            Hi Always. We hope so too. We have done everything from physical therapy to ultrasound to 5 surgeries to cortisone shots and even acupuncture so we have been there, done that. Yes, it is depressing and she has lived in doctors offices for the most part of the past 15 years. It is depressing for me also since I can’t get my wife back to any form of normalcy. We can’t travel more than 120 miles before she has some real problems and she has to stretch often on the highway. She does try to keep her chin up and I do too. Surely, there is an answer to this at some point.

        • December 11, 2013 at 3:31 pm
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          FFA, my wife has had 5 back surgeries and has enough hardware in her to set off alarms at airports. She still has tremendous pain averaging 8-10 on the scale. Last week, the pain management doctor who had been giving her periodic steroid shots which don’t provide much relief recommended that she have a Spinal Electronic Stimulator installed. We read the book on it and viewed the DVD they gave her. Basically, it blocks the pain signals from the spine to the brain and thus provides relief. They say she can put it in as a test and if it works, she can have it installed permanently. We are going to check further on it. I will do anything to get her out of the pain she has been suffering for 15 years.

          • December 11, 2013 at 4:32 pm
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            Who in the hell downthumbed my post when I didn’t even criticize Obama or say anything bad about the ACA? Celtica, is your hatred really that bad or is it you Libby?

          • December 11, 2013 at 7:07 pm
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            Agent, maybe they are thumbing down 5 back surgeries aspect of this. If they have had any experience with the roid shots, that’s worthy of a thumbs down.

            Speaking from the same basic experience, (fibromyalgia) its just a general overall downer what she is going through.

            I keep telling my wife to talk to her doc about the medical marijuana. She has been on the narcotics so long that Liver & Kidney damage is more of a real possibility. Maybe your wife should too???

          • December 12, 2013 at 9:42 am
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            Probably the same ones that thumb me down for saying God Bless America or the sky is blue. I feel your pain, Agent. It hurts, doesn’t it?

          • December 12, 2013 at 9:53 am
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            Thanks Always. We have been through it all and with each successive surgery, we had hope the condition would improve, but to no avail. She really can’t have any more surgeries because after the last one, she had a massive embalism that went to her lungs and our very talented vascular surgeon was able to remove it before it went to her heart and killed her. 17 days in the hospital, extensive treatment with blood thinners and about a year of semi recovery. She is still in as much pain as before so we may just try this stimulator since it is non invasive and simple to install. I am sure I will get some downthumbs on this post just because I am agent.

          • December 12, 2013 at 12:18 pm
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            Geeze Louise! She really has been through the wringer. My mom who is now 84 was just hospitalized last October for a month due to a blood clot in her leg. Those vascular doctors are angels on earth. Not only did my mom have one, but the cardiologist took her off the blood thinners so a pacemaker could be put in and she had another blood clot develop. So once again back in the OR for another vascular surgery. It’s amazing the technology that is out there these days and those vascular doctors really do save lives. I sincerely hope your wife will have her life back with the stimulator. 15 years – my goodness. That’s horrible.

          • December 12, 2013 at 3:15 pm
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            Hi Agent–has your wife tried acupuncture? It isn’t a cure, but perhaps it may alleviate some of her pain? So sorry she (and, you) have to go through this…wishing you both my best!

          • December 13, 2013 at 1:51 pm
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            I have a family member who also had the Spinal Electronic Stimulator and it has changed his life. He tried the test and it worked, then had it surgically implanted. He used to ride a hove-around, but now he can walk. He said it was a God send. Good luck with your wife.

      • December 16, 2013 at 11:33 am
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        Hey FFA, Scott Walker has proposed that people should be able to go on company websites to apply since the government website does not work and is insecure. He says people should still get their subsidies on company sites to lower cost and they are much more secure with personal info. What do you think about that approach?

  • December 11, 2013 at 1:45 pm
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    • December 12, 2013 at 9:14 am
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      Premiums and deductibles are soaring, millions are seeing their policies cancelled, doctors are refusing new patients, hospitals are opting-out, on and on. Lose. Lose. Lose. Lose.

      • December 12, 2013 at 9:27 am
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        Hey wvagt, Do you think Janice R is a sister of Celtica or Libby? The facts you cite are correct, hers is in La La land.

        • December 12, 2013 at 10:28 am
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          Agent, Celtica & Libby have been quiet on this one. Could be reality is sinking in.

          Libby has already come off this thing and Celtica deflects to Bush…

          One fact that wvagt left out is the countless hours to get it done.

    • December 12, 2013 at 9:45 am
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      Janice, I have yet to hear of any one I have talked to that states the web site works. My personal experience, I need to go through the producer portal to get apps in and paid for.

      • December 16, 2013 at 2:53 pm
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        Hey FFA, did you see the bulletin from Blue Cross on Understanding Affordable Care Act Fees? This law has so many fees and taxes it is a joke.
        1. Annual Fee on Health Insurers – An annual fee on the value of health insurance premiums that will be paid by Health Insurers on a pro rata basis. You can guess who will get stuck for these fees on their premiums.
        2. Transitional Reinsurance Program Contribution Fee – Isn’t that a fancy name? A temporary fee assessed on insureds and self funded plans, on a national per capita or per covered life basis. Supposedly helps fund temporary reinsurance programs under ACA in each state.
        3. Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute Trust Fund Fee – Another fancy name. The fee to help fund comparative clinical effectiveness research.

        Of course the cost of these extras are built into the double whammy of rate increases that have been issued for 12-1 and 1-1 for the customers. The companies like Blue Cross will make sure the customer feels this in their premiums. The rep said it was all about Obamacare requirements. Hmm! The Affordable Care Act strikes again.

      • December 17, 2013 at 12:24 pm
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        Not to worry FFA. Obama is having a summit at the White House with executives from Google, Amazon, Yahoo, Microsoft among others to see if they have any ideas to save his precious website. I would like to be a fly on the wall for that meeting. If they are talking candidly, they would say to dump the POS website and do it right, but they may just be polite and tell him it will all work out.

      • December 17, 2013 at 6:08 pm
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        Hey FFA, I just got an email from Blue Cross. They have been having big issues from heavy call volume from the ACA mess. They are extended their call acceptance time to 8PM CT and put on another 500 employees to receive calls. They also had incorrectly canceled some policies which are being re-instated and changed the number to call instead of the Membership Services dept which has been close to impossible to get into. My customer had to wait around 4 hours to make a payment by phone and I guess they are recognizing they have a problem now. This is only going to get worse and I imagine all the various Blue Cross centers are having similar issues.

        • December 18, 2013 at 5:32 pm
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          They new it all along…. They have established a new 800 number just for payments. This is just a mess!!!

    • December 12, 2013 at 1:44 pm
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      The numbers are up!! woohoo!! Oregon has 44 people signed up at a cost to taxpayers of only 300 MILLION! It’s working alright Janice R. Is that really what you call working? How about SD and ND with numbers only in the hundreds? Not a single state is near what is needed, it is drop in the bucket. If you count success as being better than a month ago, then yes, it is success, but better than a total failure is not what I call a triumph. I do like the adult children part, other than that, this is a big loss for all . wvagt has it right.

      • December 13, 2013 at 3:25 pm
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        I understand Oregon is using a 19 page paper app for their sign up since their site is also dysfunctional. Can you imagine the bureaucrats poring over those stacks of paper apps up there? I am sure they will all have coverage effective 1-1.

    • December 12, 2013 at 3:18 pm
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      for the LIFE of me, I can’t figure out if Janice R is being facetious….let’s hope she is, but my gut feeling is, she isn’t. She drank the Koolaid, didn’t she…..

    • December 13, 2013 at 11:45 am
      Patti Cake in the East says:
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      …”adult children can get covered”.

      Adult children is an oxy-moron, is it not, Celtica? Are they children? If so, then they need to be on mommy and daddy’s policy. If they are adults, they need to LAUNCH and get their own damn insurance! How the hell long are ADULTS supposed to be dependent on mommy and daddy?!

      • December 13, 2013 at 1:18 pm
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        I guess that’s up to the Mommy and Daddy, PC. Especially if they’re still in school.

      • December 13, 2013 at 1:39 pm
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        No, not an oxy-moron. Do you have kids? Are they adult-aged? Are they still your children? Adult children.

        Happy to help!

      • December 16, 2013 at 11:28 am
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        Patti Cake, I think the adult up to age 26 crowd were accounted for by Obama. These are the professional students who stay in school on Mom & Dad’s dime because they can’t get a job and they like the benefits the parents provide. These people don’t think like we do when we were that age and are part of the gimmee, gimmee, gimmee crowd. When they are over 26, they figure out how to get more government assistance.

        • December 17, 2013 at 8:04 am
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          Um, Agent, kids up to age 26 don’t have to be in school to be covered by their parents. They can be employed at a job that doesn’t provide insurance.

          • December 17, 2013 at 3:40 pm
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            Haven’t you heard yet jw? There are very few jobs out there for the young people unless they want to flip burgers at McDonalds with their fancy degrees. The job market is really dry now even in major areas. Companies are just not hiring due to Obamacare among other things like an anemic economy. Why do you think the latest poll on the Millinials show such a bad result for Obama? There is no work, Obama wants them to enroll and they have no money or no inclination to enroll.

    • December 13, 2013 at 2:45 pm
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      And not enough young paying customers (rather than 26 and under free-loaders) are signing up. I understand that the far left doesn’t understand basic economics or basic business. But this is unsustainable much like Social Security and Medicare are with $80 trillion in unfunded liabilities are. I know you far lefties think Social Security and Medicare are great successful programs because of the great benefits, but are too dumb to understand the basic economics of how they are unsustainable or don’t care at all about your kids who you are leaving bankrupt systems to. And Obamacare will just be yet another one. I can tell from your post you have no clue about the other side of the balance sheet or even know what a balance sheet is.

      • December 13, 2013 at 3:28 pm
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        Actually Dave, had the Feds kept their hands off Social Security & Medicare, they would have been allright. LBJ put the Trust Fund into the General Fund to pay for his War on Poverty. Medicare was robbed by Obama to fund Obamacare. What a system.

    • December 13, 2013 at 3:23 pm
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      Thanks Patti Cake. Yes, she has tried it all, including Acupuncture, all without results. She had severe scoliosis (curvature of the spine)and the surgeries have straightened it some, but there was nerve damage and pain shoots up her back so she lives on pain pills, cortisone injections which only gives temporary relief. I think this Electronic Spine Stimulator shows some promise and we have read a lot of testimonials about it. If we can block the pain signals from the brain, it might not cure the condition, but it may reduce the pain some.

    • December 13, 2013 at 3:35 pm
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      Thanks uncclem. We are going to check this out thoroughly before trying it. We have been dealing with her very bad back for many years and have had our hopes dashed after every surgery/procedure. She can’t have any more surgeries because she throws embalisms now and the last one almost killed her. The testimonials are looking promising, but it is not for everyone. She even has to get a Mental Health evaluation before it is done to make sure she can handle the control they will give her so she can monitor her pain level and not use it improperly. Modern technology and it is tricky.

  • December 11, 2013 at 1:51 pm
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    No need to waste more tax payer money. SHE went wrong.

  • December 11, 2013 at 2:30 pm
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    More bureacracy, more wasted money. What went wrong? Start with the administration at the top of HHS. Secretary Sebielus is a joke and if Obama wants even the tiniest bit of credibility out of this, he should have fired her, but no, he did not.
    There is no excuse for what has happened. This investigation is an attempt to save face. Far too late for that.

  • December 11, 2013 at 2:34 pm
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    Great, only a little over 6,600,000 to go to meet their goal. Should be a piece of cake.

    • December 11, 2013 at 2:36 pm
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      Soon as the site works (defined by Webster – Not Obama) they will.

    • December 11, 2013 at 4:18 pm
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      dave – Give it some Viagra. Should last 4 hours.

      • December 11, 2013 at 4:23 pm
        Agent says:
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        But FFA, the ad says if the erection lasts over 4 hours, you should see a doctor. Good luck finding one in the new network.

        • December 11, 2013 at 6:31 pm
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          It needs to man up and power through it.

  • December 11, 2013 at 2:47 pm
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    Mike “i am smoking Hash” says it is working. The federal program will NOT get 1 million people enrolled. As an agent I expect my association to sue the federal government for lost commission and mental anguish this has caused licensed agents. The last straw will be Obama blames the Insurance industry for the failure.

    • December 12, 2013 at 9:32 am
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      NHguy, I am afraid we can blame not only the government, but the Health Insurance Industry as well since they bought into the scheme and they will be bailed out when it implodes. The problem they have is trying to restore policies they sent cancellations out on. When they recoup the policies, they all have substantial rate increases attached. I had a customer this happened to with Blue Cross who got one of these 1-1-14 increases and they said it was to pay the subsidy. Wow! What a Christmas present the customer got.

    • December 12, 2013 at 9:46 am
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      Nh, Can I join your assn.?

  • December 11, 2013 at 3:04 pm
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    This is all a farce. The site can sign up all the millions it wants, but without a back end system, which has yet to be developed and tested, it’s just an exercise in futility. If they had problems with the implementation of the front end, just wait until they try to reconcile the back end where the money gets transferred.

    • December 11, 2013 at 3:33 pm
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      You are right Paul. The back end is the payment mechanism and if payment is not received for insurance, no insurance will be there. A lot of these people will be surprised to find after the first of the year, they don’t have insurance when the doctor’s office says sorry, I can’t find you in the system. For this to work, a card must be issued and it has to be in the system and if premium is not there, it will show nothing.

      • December 11, 2013 at 3:48 pm
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        My producer could not get his payment entered. when I did mine, it took my payment. I signed up for electronic wd but it did not bring up an electronic payment form.

        I have been trying to enter in another ap today. Its been hit or miss on how far I get. She want to pay full annual by check.

        So, shake the dice. Odds better in Vegas.

  • December 11, 2013 at 3:31 pm
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    FFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  • December 11, 2013 at 3:34 pm
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    ffa- such language, I never!

    Tell it like it is brother or sister or transsexual…whatever. You get the point.

  • December 11, 2013 at 3:46 pm
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    Jack, I like women. I am a lesbian in a mans body.

    • December 11, 2013 at 3:55 pm
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      Me too FFA. Can we go to therapy for it? I feel I was born this way.

      • December 11, 2013 at 4:17 pm
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        Depends, would my new health insurance cover it?

    • December 11, 2013 at 4:30 pm
      Agent says:
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      Lesbians can be creative when they get started. Transsexuals are the worst. They can’t figure out what they are. I have seen guys who grew up, got married, had kids and then in their 40′s decide to bat from the other side of the plate. I can’t imagine how the wife feels to lose her husband to a guy. Pretty sad and disgusting.

      • December 11, 2013 at 4:47 pm
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        One of my step sons lost a G friend in High School to that exact situation. He was head over heels in love and got dumped for another woman. Started his downward spiral….

      • December 11, 2013 at 7:35 pm
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        What goes on behind closed doors should stay there.

        Conservatives like you love to advocate this philosophy except when it comes to issues like adultery, sex, etc.

        A bit hypocritical…don’t you think?

        How is the relationship going with Sarge?

        • December 12, 2013 at 8:14 am
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          Ins 102- if it stayed behind closed doors we wouldn’t give a damn. But now it’s thrown in our face in public. All over the TV. Forcing business and church to accept it as normal. ITS NOT! ITS SICK AND DISGUSTING!

          Think i’ll do Chick-fil-A today for lunch. yummy chicken!

          • December 12, 2013 at 9:36 am
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            Yes Jack, when the gay crowd said they would boycott Chick-Fil-A, there were record numbers of straight people lined up to get their sandwiches. I know the owner of the franchise in my town who operates 3 stores, and he said business has never been better.

          • December 12, 2013 at 9:37 am
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          • December 12, 2013 at 11:55 am
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            Libby, let me flas you back to NYPD Blue when they were showing Jimmy Smitts naked rear end & Sipowhitxza bare butt.

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            FFA, those butt shots were to attract women viewers.

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          • December 13, 2013 at 6:53 pm
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            WTF Libby. You really aim to state that media does not support gay couple / lifestyles?

            Now unlike Jack, I don’t care if someone is gay, however you want to state it doesn’t?

            Comcast webpage description of on demand: “Your premier gay and lesbian entertainment center”

            Comcast: Mindy Project commercial. Google it.
            EA Games: Mass Effect, Dragon Age. Google it.

            Glee. Watch it. Get back to me.
            Will & Grace
            Friends

            American Horror Story Season 2.
            Criminal Minds, the episode about religious fanatics being forced to go through a program where they are all forced to be the same, then one goes insane and starts killing his gay partners. The whole thing was basically going over how gay people are so discriminated against by a powerful religion of people who are all exactly the same (bigotry) that they are killing people.

            Or you know what, why don’t you just research an entire list.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT_characters_in_television_and_radio

            I do not tolerate someone who is so delusional they make up things as they go along.

            The country is pro gay anti church. End of story.

            Now you list to me any television shows that show it as being immoral. There are none.

            No then, let’s go back to my criminal minds example and to the countless assaults on religions on tv. How many are there of those?

            American Horror Story does it a lot. Insulting churches and the corruption is fairly common practice.

            And that is what is sick. We have an anti church crowd now, and a force going on to dominate from the gay activist groups.

            “What kind of television are you watching, Jack??? Mine doesn’t show the kind of shows you’re talking about. And who’s forcing churches to accept anything?? You are the sick and disgusting one here.”

          • December 16, 2013 at 8:37 am
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            3 words for you Bob and Jack. CHANGE THE CHANNEL.

          • December 16, 2013 at 2:21 pm
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            So Kjw, for our guys on this site, why are women so fascinated with men’s butts? That seems a little odd to me.

          • December 16, 2013 at 3:27 pm
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            That’s cuz you’re not a woman. It’s just like your fascination with our boobs.

          • December 17, 2013 at 8:09 am
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            Agent, I’ll answer that one. In my opinion, a good pair of glutes imply power and stamina (especially nice when combined with quads of steel). For thrusting. That work for ya?

        • December 12, 2013 at 9:48 am
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          102, just flapping my gums. Don’t mean nothing. Besides, if we ever met face to face, you would never know it.

          • December 12, 2013 at 11:25 am
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          • December 12, 2013 at 11:50 am
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            My comprehension skills are off today. Does any one understand what this Obamanite is trying to say?

            If he trying to say that the Humana site is down and not working, I already know that. Only Blue Cross working today.

          • December 12, 2013 at 12:05 pm
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            Yes FFA, the Blue Cross site works great. You can go in there and quote all the Bronze, Silver & Platinum plans you want and up pops the quotes at 30% above what the Blue Cross customer has currently that they like.

          • December 12, 2013 at 12:52 pm
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            Yes Agent…. That’s affordable. Just got another one in done and over with. Producer working on another as we speak…

            Only Blue Cross is working.

          • December 12, 2013 at 12:55 pm
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            Don’t worry about 102 FFA. He is just a Progressive troll who shows up from time to time to spout off. As I recall, he is from NYC and was a Wiener, the peter tweeter voter.

          • December 12, 2013 at 1:06 pm
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            Agent, I’m not worried about 102. He is not even American first.

          • December 16, 2013 at 4:57 pm
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            Hey FFA, the AP came out with a new poll today. 69% of Americans now believe their premiums will be going up in 2014 and 59% think their deductibles and out of pocket expenses will increase. I think America has awakened from their slumber of the past 5 years and all the lies are coming home to roost.

          • December 17, 2013 at 11:47 am
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            Good answer jw. Libby tends to get caustic with her replies. You do have to be careful judging a man by his butt. Some of those steroid weightlifters are impotent due to that use and cannot perform.

          • December 18, 2013 at 11:26 am
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            Sad, but true, I agree. Steriod use is an issue. Sometimes, you just have to take a chance.

          • December 18, 2013 at 11:36 am
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            That’s why you test drive the car before buying it.

  • December 11, 2013 at 6:50 pm
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    ‘Individuals Who Have Selected a Marketplace plan’ is Newspeak for “not very many”.

    While Obummercare may be great for insurance companies, it is an absolute, no holds barred, disaster for Americans.

    Everything points to the fact that things will get much worse for middle America – the ones that have to pay for Dear Leader’s fiasco.

    If group plans follow the same path that individual plans have, this year will seem like a cakewalk for Obama and his lackeys.

    • December 18, 2013 at 4:08 pm
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      Any you Libby, might be disappointed if you picked one of those muscle bound steroid boys to mess with. I have seen a few reports that privates actually shrink with roid use and many of these “guys” have roid rage and hurt people.

      • December 18, 2013 at 4:20 pm
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        Agent – not that it’s any of your business, but the “muscle bound steroid boys” are NOT my type. I just like a nice, firm, little ass on a man. It’s sexy. Again, you wouldn’t understand because you’re not a woman. I wasn’t being “caustic.” I was just trying to explain what you said you didn’t understand.

      • December 19, 2013 at 7:35 am
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        I’m the vain one, here. I like the muscles and all they imply. But, I just look. I don’t think my husband would approve of me testing the merchandise.

        • December 19, 2013 at 9:48 am
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          KY – just because you’re on a diet doesn’t mean you can’t look at the menu! :-)

  • December 11, 2013 at 7:32 pm
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    I’m a supporter of President Obama and voted for him twice.

    However, if anyone would have performed so inadequately in their job responsibilities as Sebelius did with this rollout, they would be relieved of their responsibilities.

    I think it is time to let Sebelius go and bring in a department head who can execute more proficiently.

    • December 12, 2013 at 8:16 am
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      Obuma is a failure. He will go down as the worst ever and Jimmy set the bar pretty low.

      • December 12, 2013 at 9:43 am
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        Yes Jack, the peanut farmer was pretty much an imbecile while in office. That was a very long 4 years for the country. His solution to the energy crisis he had was to turn the thermostat down in your house and wear a sweater. The current President is more creative. He said to air up your tires and get a tune up and to make gas from switch grass and cow dung.

      • December 12, 2013 at 9:55 am
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        Jack, YEP YEP and more YEP. 102, hop your not telling your client that. I spent over half an hour on the phone with an average joe. He was just ripping on Obama and all I could say is yes. Oh, I know. Your not telling me anything new. You think it hard on your end, come on in and work a day here.

        On a sports note, he though McCowen should have the qb spot for the rest of the year.

        • December 16, 2013 at 11:14 am
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          Well FFA, Congrats to your Bears with Cutler back. I only saw a few highlights and it looked like he struggled, but came through with the help of his two big receivers and Forte. The lowly Cowgirls tried to help the Bears out in the standings against Green Bay, but managed to blow a 23 point halftime lead and lose with two late interceptions by the interception prone Romo. Lots of people need to be fired in that organization starting with the General Manager (Jones)for putting this team together, Garrett, the non head coach, Offensive Coordinator for play selection late in the game, Defensive Coordinator for playing soft in the second half. The only team in the NFL to blow a larger lead this year has been Libby’s favorite team against Brady and the Pats. This is a dysfunctional team and they keep doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result, much like our government.

      • December 12, 2013 at 10:01 am
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        Hey Jack, did you catch any of the Mendela funeral? It seems they hired a guy to do signing for the deaf, but it turns out the guy is a looney tune and was just up there waving his arms around and not interpreting anything. I think he went to the Nancy Pelosi school of signing which doesn’t say anything intelligent.

        • December 12, 2013 at 1:52 pm
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          Agent- I watched it and the guy made more sense than Obuma…LOL.

          • December 18, 2013 at 4:10 pm
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            I think the fake signer makes more sense than Jay Carney with all his serial lying done daily.

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        • December 12, 2013 at 1:54 pm
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          Ins 102- tell that to the unemployed black population, they will buy it…..again.

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          • December 12, 2013 at 4:01 pm
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            The unemployment is a direct result of 30+ years of Reaganomics which has also resulted in the greatest wealth gap in the history of the world. What we have in this country is a demand problem largely in part due to that ever growing gap. But, those that believe in Supply Side Jesus and Saint Reagan will never admit that. Even though some on Reagan’s own advisory board have admitted it. Time to roll back the Reagan tax cuts and his failing version of capitalism before we completely lose this country. Thanks alot, Raygun.

    • December 12, 2013 at 9:20 am
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      Says a lot about Obama’s managerial expertise that she’s still around doesn’t it? All that community organizing BS has served him well in his current role.

    • December 12, 2013 at 9:40 am
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      Not to worry 102, the administration is bringing in Podesta to save the day. He is head of the Center for American Progress, one of the most left wing organizations in the country. I am sure he will clean up the mess from Sebelius and CMS and all the website vendors still collecting on the taxpayer dime. By the way, Sebelius said yesterday they should have the payment thing on the backend fixed by mid January. Hmm! what will the people do that have expirations on 1-1? Have they followed through on anything to date?

      • December 12, 2013 at 2:18 pm
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        • December 13, 2013 at 4:41 pm
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          Are you that far gone 102? Are you drowning in Kool Aid? Please prove that Bill Frist supported and voted for Obamacare. The last time I checked, not one Republican voted for it in the House or Senate. You threw out Howard Dean, the screamer candidate who had to withdraw from running for President. He was as goofy as could be. I am not sure he is any goofier that the current DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz who said recently that Democrats should run on the merits of Obamacare for the mid terms. I certainly hope they do. We want to see their selling points and compare them to reality.

          • December 16, 2013 at 8:19 am
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          • December 16, 2013 at 10:45 am
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            Ron, your selective reading skills are about third grade level. Read the second and third paragraphs of his post and see if your pea size brain can comprehend his post on Frist. How dare either you or 102 post nonsense about Bill Frist with no proof he ever supported the law?

          • December 16, 2013 at 11:28 am
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          • December 20, 2013 at 12:34 pm
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            Agent,
            Frist has been out of the Senate for five plus years. I never said he voted for the loa, but he was strongly supportive of it.
            Yes, Dean won’t be President. But his medical knowledge (Albert Einstein Medical School graduate and board certified internist) combined with his 30+ years as a practicing doctor, make him someone who can provide insight on health care delivery.
            Isn’t it ironic that Bill Frist and Howard Dean do not agree on many issues, but they both support the ACA!
            Time to read up agent! We can chip in to give you a course in Wharton in their healthcare management program!
            It will be much more useful than Michael Savage, Rush and Glenn Beck.

      • December 12, 2013 at 3:23 pm
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      • December 18, 2013 at 4:14 pm
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        Well, it didn’t take Podesta long to get into trouble. He came out and said Republicans are like a cult and compared them to the KKK. Oops! He had to issue an apology the second day on the job. Good going Podesta the troll. By the way, the only certifiable KKK member ever in Congress was the late Robert Byrd (D) from WV. In his heyday, he rode the ponies with a sheet over his head and was proud of it. Only when he was near death did he apologize and ask forgiveness.

    • December 16, 2013 at 2:15 pm
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      So are you one of those low information voters that voted for a slogan 102? Are you one of those “redistribute the wealth guys”? Do you like a leader that leads from behind like this guy has done for 5 years? A true leader would have had her on the carpet the day after the website blew up. The meeting might go – Have your letter of resignation on my desk by lunch. Have a nice retirement in Kansas.

  • December 12, 2013 at 8:40 am
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    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/11/70-of-ObamaCare-Enrollees-Are-For-Medicaid

    70% of Obumacareless enrollees are signed up for Medicaid

    Imagine that!

    • December 12, 2013 at 9:41 am
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      • December 12, 2013 at 9:52 am
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        Ok Libby, I am confused – are those dollar figures of premium collected or is that the head count?

        • December 12, 2013 at 9:57 am
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          Hey FFA, if Libby is using dollar figures instead of a head count, that doesn’t represent many policies as high as the premiums are. By the way, Healthcare.gov only enrolled a little more than 100,000 including your producer. Please advise when they send him a card and confirmation of coverage and summary of coverage.

          • December 12, 2013 at 11:02 am
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          • December 12, 2013 at 11:21 am
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            My ap count in my agency is up to three. Mine, my producers and one consumer.

            Just had to tell a female that she would have to change her lady parts doc. “But he said we could keep our doctors” she said… She has yet to figure out the difference between the English language as we were taught as kids and into our adult life – in my case my 50′s – to what OBamas interpretation of it is.

            Her hubby understands.

          • December 12, 2013 at 12:11 pm
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            Libby, wrong again. The State Exchanges enrolled twice as many as Healthcare.gov and most went to Medicaid, not the vaunted Obamacare plans. Apparently your reading skills are very suspect if you think Healtcare.gov enrolled 364,000. I wonder if they will have insurance come 1-1. No payment, no coverage. We should thank Sebelius since she said they were working on the payment issue and it may be fixed by mid January. Oops! Can you say lapse of coverage?

          • December 12, 2013 at 2:03 pm
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            Libby- sucks when you bitch about someone’s reading comprehension skills and you post dollars instead of head count doesn’t it!

          • December 12, 2013 at 2:30 pm
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            Heard a new twist today. Someone who wanted to purchase insurance was put on medicaid. She is retired (w/o health benefits), is under 65 and has a part time job. Since she qualifies for medicaid, she can’t buy insurance with a subsidy. She doesn’t want medicaid. She would have to pay for her insurance and then request the tax break on the back end. Obviously, if she could afford insurance, she would already have it. So, she took the medicaid. *smh*

          • December 12, 2013 at 3:41 pm
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            JW, had two of them this week. Don’t want medicaide, want to take care of them selves, but cant…

          • December 13, 2013 at 10:02 am
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      • December 12, 2013 at 2:06 pm
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        So Breitbart was right then…..hmmm. Maybe you should read it more often and turn off MSNBC ?

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  • December 12, 2013 at 10:52 am
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    For those of you still supporting the President, following is a short list of lies he has told and many are just in the last year. It is impossible to post them all for 5 years.
    1.If you like your plan, you can keep your plan, PERIOD!
    2.If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, PERIOD!
    3.Obamacare will reduce premiums.
    4.The average family will save $2,500
    5.Obamacare will not add one dime to the deficit.
    6.The Private Sector is doing just fine.
    7.You didn’t build that!
    8.Benghazi was caused by a Youtube video.
    9.I didn’t set a Red Line on Syria.
    10.This is the most transparent administration in history.
    11.I never said “if you like your plan you can keep your plan”.
    12.We will create shovel ready jobs.
    13.I will cut the deficit in half in my first term.
    14.I will close Guantanamo Bay.
    15.I didn’t know the IRS was targeting Conservative Groups.
    16.I didn’t know about the NSA spying.
    17.Bill Ayers was just a guy in the neighborhood.
    18.I had no idea about the AP phone tapping.
    19.Shopping for Health Insurance will be as easy as going on Amazon.com.

    These are some of my favorites. I am sure Sargeant & FFA can remember some of the other gems uttered by this President.

    • December 12, 2013 at 12:36 pm
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      And: I don’t even know my uncle in Boston – I’ve never even met him. I have an uncle in Boston?

      I’m just paraphrasing on the new lie added to the ever popular growing list of lies.

      • December 12, 2013 at 2:58 pm
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        Yes Always, this uncle in Boston has been fighting extradition for being illegal for many years. He has also been arrested for DUI more than once. I also think there is a mystery Aunt that is also here as an illegal and getting her government assistance.

    • December 14, 2013 at 12:51 am
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      Very good Agent- I can add a couple. How about;
      * I said Benghazi was a terrorist attack all along!
      * We are not supplying Syrian rebels with aid or weapons
      * we have got back every dime we spent on the financial crisis
      * My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
      *I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever- In fact Obama- Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya – Weapons pour into Gaza.
      *USA producing more oil than ever before
      *My Jobs Bill is Paid for
      * We need immigration reform as the Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”- maybe 5% complete
      *We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
      *Obama says he’ll save average family $8,000 a year in gas.
      *Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
      * I will Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
      * There is not one Earmark in the $787 Billion Stimulus
      *I won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
      *ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
      *Obama’s mother spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
      *I have visited all 57 states. Let’s just say he is stupid on this one
      *I’ll get rid of earmarks, if elected.
      *When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
      *My father served in World War II.- Blatant lie
      *Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
      *I Barely Know Rezko
      *My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
      One of my favorites- Rich doesn’t pay their fair share. Oh yeah? Check this out you idiot– http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

      • December 16, 2013 at 10:38 am
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        Hey Sargeant, How about following?
        I will not make the White House welcome for Special Interests and lobbyists.
        I am willing to listen to anyone on the other side of the aisle that has ideas on how to fix this law.

      • December 16, 2013 at 2:05 pm
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        I also heard him say that the US has only 3% of the reserves in the world and consumes 25% of the energy. Hmm! I guess he hasn’t read any of the industry info about the huge proven reserves in the US, much of it on Federal Land. We could actually be a net exporter of energy so why are we still importing so much and telling Brazil we will be their best customer?

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        He did utter one truth Sargeant. He said “Under my energy plan, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket”.

  • December 12, 2013 at 11:23 am
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    Was the $10 Bill hit the tax payers took on the chin for the auto industry on him too?

    Other then that, I think you got the doozies covered.

    • December 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm
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      I think the Cash for Clunkers program was closer to $20 Billion FFA. I don’t know how they came out on GM & Chrysler. I think they sold the stock for below market so we probably got hosed for that as well.

      • December 12, 2013 at 12:56 pm
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        $10 Bill was the figure as reported by ABC 7 news this week. That was the hit we took on poorly managed companies in the auto trades. and Detroit is getting empty.

        • December 12, 2013 at 1:54 pm
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          Interestingly enough, Ford reorganized on it’s own a few years prior to the GM Chrysler debacle and is doing just fine. Not a penny of government money was used.

          • December 12, 2013 at 3:01 pm
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            GM is also making the majority of their vehicles in China now. The US GM is still making the Volt that doesn’t run, blows up in a crash and they can’t give them away due to the cost despite huge rebates. Give me my American made Toyota built in Tennessee.

  • December 12, 2013 at 1:07 pm
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    Does any one know what it means when I go into my producer portal and on the Status it says “Rule Exception”? No need to advise a call because they are not taking calls…

    • December 12, 2013 at 3:02 pm
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      Sounds like a mystery to me. Perhaps you can ask your Rep. I have a meeting with our Blue Cross rep today to see what can be done for our Groups!

      • December 12, 2013 at 3:44 pm
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        I have a house rep that is unreachable. Can u ask yours?

        One of my group health reps committed suicide earlier this week. I know he was very stressed out over this as well as sweating his job. I find it hard to believe the ACA was the driving force behind it, but it may have pushed him over the edge… Then again, it may have had nothing to do with it. I just don’t know…

        • December 13, 2013 at 4:53 pm
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          My Group rep is one of those young confident guys, but even he is scratching his head and wondering whether he will have a job next year or not. He showed up an hour late for our appointment and we asked him if the other agent had bloodied him any. He laughed about it, but when we talked, he said the government was doing a number on the carriers with all these regulations, backing out the cancelled policies to reinstate, changing the enrollment deadlines and of course the customers are calling constantly jumping up and down. This is reaching critical mass now ready for a big explosion. Maybe it would die down some if Impeachment Proceedings were to begin in DC. Sorry to hear about your Group Rep. One never knows what is going on with another person. By the way, my customer who had the billing snafu had to wait over 4 hours to talk to someone about straightening out his bill. He would listen to music, be transferred and then get cut off and have to call back. He was not a happy camper. I said they must be getting very heavy call volume from equally dissatisfied customers. They may have to open new lines and hire more people to handle the volume.

          • December 16, 2013 at 8:41 am
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  • December 12, 2013 at 5:02 pm
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    Well if this isn’t a kick in the pants. Last week someone called me frustrated as all get out. I spent over 1.5 hours on the phone with her last night and then another 1.5 hours researching her doctors. Found the right network for her to have a minimal impact (she has 5 docts). Was only gonna have to change the kids doc.
    Just a short time ago, she calls and says that she finally got through to the 800 number and got the ap completed with the subsidy on the front end. The she says she called her doc after the call and she was told that all of the docs are pulling out of the network when the pin head on the phone told her all docs are in network. Now, she has the ap in and wants to know what I can do for her. Well, I did everything I could do and then she went and did something else AFTER SHE ENGAGED ME FOR HELP.

    Needless to say, she is not a fan of oBamas… The lie that getting her the worst is “you can keep your doctors”.

    Me, just a waste of time when I could have been helping someone that’s going to let me do my job instead of calling an 800 number that calls who knows where….

  • December 13, 2013 at 10:26 am
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    So lets analyze this case – how good of a deal she is getting…
    docs in Il charge at least $100 for records transfers x 5 doct = $500.00. This includes her Lady Parts Doctor, the specialist she sees and the kids doctors.
    Next closest docs are at least 15 more miles away so add on the cost of the trip to the docs. She is at the docs once a month.
    If she want to keep her docs, there are no out of network penalties listed. So, I can only assume there is no out of network coverage.
    Nice job min wage pin head on the 800 number. Way to go Ofnbama! As she stated to me, its going to be devastating to her to have to switch the one specialist in particular. Good thing she picks up psych coverage, she going to need it.
    And Agents are not to be trusted????
    I am sure its all Bushes fault..

    • December 13, 2013 at 11:44 am
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      Doctors charge to transfer records? That’s rude. I haven’t changed doctors for years, so I have no idea how much (if anything) doctors here charge. It’s still rude. Wow. Even without the charge, this patient is getting a crap deal. Wrong on so many levels.

  • December 13, 2013 at 12:10 pm
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    Record Transfer fees been the norm in IL for years…

    • December 13, 2013 at 4:57 pm
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      Can you just imagine how many millions of records will have to be transferred from doctor to doctor with the skinnied down networks? I don’t envy the doctors in this nonsense either. Patients they have treated for years are no longer theirs. Many may have to get into a different line of work. What else can they do, but practice medicine. Maybe Obama will set them up in a free clinic and they can get their Medicaid pittance for treating patients.

    • December 16, 2013 at 1:59 pm
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      FFA, record transfer fees may be the new cottage industry in Illinois in the coming months and years since so many will have to be done. Fedex and UPS should be very busy.

  • December 14, 2013 at 12:05 am
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    Well Insurance 102 I don’t care what to like kind gender do to eat other as long as they don’t flaunt their orientation in my face or try to make me or my family believe that what they are doing and campaigning for is just good old American behavior. So stay out of my face and do what you want. Also, if you are in the military stay out of my LZ. Now puffer go do what you like

    • December 16, 2013 at 11:37 am
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      Sargeant, It sounds like you are saying that if 102 is in your LZ, he might have a problem with friendly fire.

      By the way, I don’t watch much of the lamestream media shows because they are laced with sexual inuendo, gay approval, immoral behavior. The channel changer is quickly used. Cable offers a lot of variety in programming. I think ABC and NBC are the worst offenders, CBS seems to have slightly better series on.

  • December 14, 2013 at 12:06 am
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    each other- Ha

    • December 16, 2013 at 1:11 pm
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      Hey Sargeant, I saw a good one on the net this morning.

      Barack Obama should try to emulate Nelson Mandela as a leader. He can start by spending 27 years in jail.

      • December 16, 2013 at 1:35 pm
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        • December 16, 2013 at 1:57 pm
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          Ron, I am not going to apologize to you or 102 since your reading skills are so bad. The first statement he made was that the law was good. A lie just like his President first made. The second whopper is that he “bet” that the Republican party disowned Frist for his support of ACA. Can either of you offer evidence that Frist ever supported ACA or do you propose to continue the lies that got Obama in so much trouble?

    • December 17, 2013 at 4:39 pm
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      So Sargeant, I just saw the latest ABC/Washington Post poll on Obama’s approval ratings. He is now the proud owner of his lowest rating at 43% approval, 55% disapproval. I think the air has gone out of the balloon, don’t you? On every major category of how to judge a President’s job performance, he is plummeting. Obviously, the disaster of Obamacare is leading the pack, but just about everything else he does and touches brings it down. I wonder how low it would be if he didn’t have the complicit media to prop him up. GW’s approval was bad when the media was piling on at every opportunity. The article also mentioned that this was the worst approval by a second term President since Nixon and he was in the middle of Watergate and the media was calling for his head 24/7.

  • December 16, 2013 at 2:27 pm
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    Ron, you are a pathetic troll of the left. I would like to shake the hand of your father in law for being entirely correct about your character flaws and political views. You had the gall to defend another Progressive troll, the now infamous 102 that leads everyone in dislikes for his garbage. Your remarks put you in the same league as him, the bush leagues. I wasn’t wrong about either one of you.

    • December 16, 2013 at 2:55 pm
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      Libby, I would like to see an article which is more current rather than 2 years old on Frist. Do you think he would accept Medicaid or one of the Obamacare plans if he were still operating? Most doctors these days say they will not due to low re-imbursement. I lost track of Frist when he left the Senate, but he wasn’t there to vote on the merits since not one Republican voted for it. He would have been labeled a turncoat had he been there and voted for it.

      • December 17, 2013 at 11:23 am
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          I did google him and there are no newer articles I can find. Perhaps he just dropped off the grid and maybe he has realized the error of his ways considering how this law has imploded and wasn’t as advertised in any way. By the way, your buddy Jay Carney just said in a news conference yesterday that “millions” are signing up and they like what they are seeing. Typical Progressive spin which flies in the face of reality.

          • December 17, 2013 at 11:50 am
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            Who is Jay Carney and why is he my buddy?

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            Well, Agent, that just confirms your total lack of reading skills. The second link listed is dated 12/2/13. Is that new enough for you? What a putz.

  • December 16, 2013 at 8:22 pm
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    FFA said- “$10 Bill was the figure as reported by ABC 7 news this week. That was the hit we took on poorly managed companies in the auto trades. and Detroit is getting empty.”

    Actually FFA I think the Federal government got all their money and more from the Chrysler deal, especially when Fiat bought controlling interest of Chrysler. What is now humorous is that Chrysler is keeping Fiat afloat as Fiat is having problems in Europe.
    I also think that the Fed could have gotten all their money on the GM deal if they had waited a little longer. I am not sure why they sold the stock but it is not like they had to. Kinda dumb to me.

    • December 17, 2013 at 11:10 am
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      Sargeant said Fiat was having trouble in Europe. They aren’t the only ones. Italy is one of those countries having big issues like Spain, Greece, Portugal, Great Britain, Ireland, France with the unaffordability of big government largesse. It has to be affecting their business and ability to compete. Fiat is advertising in the US for their dinky little cars hoping they will catch on. Perhaps Planet or Libby will buy one and save the day.

    • December 18, 2013 at 3:45 pm
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      Sargeant, Libby doesn’t seem to know who Jay Carney is and he is the Liar in Chief’s mouthpiece who said only a few days ago that millions are signing up and they like what they see. Add that to the list of whoppers these people continue to say to try to change public opinion of them. 43% approval and going down, down, down.

  • December 16, 2013 at 8:30 pm
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    The sad thing? Yes, Detroit is continue to empty out. 40 plus years of thievery, corruption, incompetence and just plain indifference to the citizens who lived there and paid the bills was to much. They have finally put the last mayor in prison for the next 28 years, a Democrat, John Conyers (D) Detroit wife Monica was sent to prison for taking bribes etc, etc. They now have a new Mayor and a new city council thanks to the new Emergency manager appointed by the Governor. I think it will get better, it already is. That said people will not move back into the city unless they broom out the thugs, reduce crime, vastly improve the city school system and improve city services. Right now they don’t have the tax base and people to do that.

    • December 17, 2013 at 9:50 am
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      Hey Sargeant, How about those Lions? They had the opportunity to do something at home and they pulled a Cowboy’s act. Before the game, the commentators were all saying that the Lions had the awesome offense and defense and would hand the Ravens their head. Someone forgot to tell the Ravens. Three interceptions will generally do the trick to lose a game. Perhaps your quarterback had been studying too much Romo. Some of those interceptions were pretty ugly. Perhaps they will recover and still make the playoffs. It is extremely unlikely the Cowboys will. Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett & Romo are under big heat in Dallas.

      • December 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm
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        As a Bears Fan – Thanks Lions!!!

        And agent, that loss is on Garretts shoulders. I call it Wannyism. Something works – the run – so lets not do it any more. Oops, game is getting away from us so lets start running it again. oops. We are two far behind so lets ask our QB to go outside his limits so we can come back..

        Trust is Cowboys keep running at Chicago & Green Bay, they win easily….

        • December 17, 2013 at 2:52 pm
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          FFA, I went on the Cowboys website and boy were the fans letting Jones, Garrett and Romo have it. By the way, Romo changed the play on the last pass that was intercepted. They told him to run the ball and he disobeyed, killed the play and then threw the ball right into the hands of the DB. He has done that repeatedly. I have listened to him bark out the plays for a long time and when he says kill, kill, kill and changes the play at the line of scrimmage, you can bet it will be a negative play. Quarterbacks are supposed to be the smartest players on the field, but Romo takes the cake and is goofy as a liberal on this blog.

          • December 17, 2013 at 3:32 pm
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            I would not doubt it Agent… When Cutler threw his first pick, I am sure every sports talk show was gearing up for a Cutler bashing and Trashing…

            I am sure all your guys deserve it. What are they saying about Bryant leaving the field with time on the clock? Cant be good. I heard his response last night. He would have been better off says he had to go bathroom…

        • December 17, 2013 at 5:58 pm
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          FFA, Jones hired Garrett because he thought Garrett was smart, being a Princeton graduate. We have a little experience with Princeton graduates since the President’s current economic advisor is one as well and designed the Cash for Clunkers program which cost the taxpayers upwards of $20 billion. Garrett is also a yes man with Jones which is what he likes. The last real coach was Jimmy Johnson who was not a yes man, knew how to coach, how to draft and sign players and rewarded Jones with 2 Super Bowl rings. Aikman, Smith & Irvin were the triplets and they delivered. Eventually, the relationship went south and Johnson said bye bye Jerry. He seems to be happy being on TV and not having to deal with the Narcissist ego maniac owner who thinks he knows football.

  • December 17, 2013 at 12:44 pm
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    Funny how when Sarge shows up, all liberals are silenced in one fell swoop. Nice work!

    • December 17, 2013 at 1:14 pm
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      Perhaps they don’t want to land in his LZ Libby. By the way, he supplemented my Obama lies post nicely. He had more than I did. The book must be pretty thick now. Too bad you don’t take the lies more seriously Libby.

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        • December 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm
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          So did you get all this useful info off Huffington Post or Media Matters or maybe Moveon.org? Are you also disputing that there were 17 UN resolutions condemning Iraq, demanding inspections that were promptly denied by Sadam and supporting the position that Saddam had WMD’s? Are you disputing every Intelligence Agency of the free world coming to the same conclusion and joining the coalition to go after Saddam since he used WMD’s on his own people and also against Iran in their bloody war? By the way, your President declared that Afghanistan was the right war for the right reasons. Why is he still in there using drones to kill many innocents as collateral damage? We have lost many more US soldiers there than we ever did in Iraq.

          • December 17, 2013 at 2:51 pm
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            It wouldn’t matter where I got it, Agent, you wouldn’t believe it. Just like I don’t believe the drivel you dredge up on Drudge, FoxNews, and the plethora of other right-wing rags you read.

          • December 17, 2013 at 3:45 pm
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            So this is just your personal log where you have monitored everything that GW, Cheney said in 8 years. It is too bad you haven’t been keeping up with Obama’s lies for the past 5 years. How come you haven’t been monitoring him? I guess you wouldn’t hear it by watching MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS because they have been giving him a pass for so long. A few years ago, they had a press conference and the toughest question asked was, What do you like best about being President?

          • December 17, 2013 at 4:28 pm
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            I’ll leave that up to you and Sarge, Agent.

        • December 17, 2013 at 5:54 pm
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          Libby- Nice cut and paste. That must have taken all of 15 seconds.

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            And you point is?

            I stated in the post that it was a reply from another thread. Of course I cut and pasted it.

    • December 17, 2013 at 3:53 pm
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      FFA. Bryant is a gifted receiver and a tough competitor. He did have a number of catches and 153 yards receiving, mostly in the first half when they were actually playing football. He also has the maturity of a 12 year old and has anger management issues. They have to grab him every time he comes off the field when the play breaks down, a negative play like an interception or the team has to punt. He would argue with the person manning the Gatorade cups. He was really ticked about that last play and said he didn’t want fans to see him cry while Green Bay kneeled down to run out the clock. I understand the young man wants to win and he is stuck on a team of losers. He just has a tough time handling it.

  • December 17, 2013 at 5:52 pm
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    FFA said- “As a Bears Fan – Thanks Lions!!!”

    Well, I won’t say your welcome as I was up late last night hoping the Lions would beat the Ravens and not get put in a position of outside looking in, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, It is the same old Lions, Get your hopes up, do a nice job, look to be playoff bound and fizzle out of the picture. Same old Lions.
    Baseball season is only 3 and 1/2 months away!

    • December 18, 2013 at 3:56 pm
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      Sargeant, the announcers said Stafford was guaranteed $94 million on his contract. Do you think he is worth that kind of money? Jones signed Romo to a $108 million contract extension, but only $55 million is guaranteed. It seems both of these quarterbacks aren’t providing much bang for the bucks. They also said more points were scored last weekend than in many years, so defenses seem to be the thing of the past. The NFL stands for “Not For Long” and appears to be true. The game seems to be like picking a horse in a race. It is wise to bet on the jockey, not the horse.

      • December 18, 2013 at 6:31 pm
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        I heard someone say the “hit zone” for a defender to hit a ball carrier has shrunk to a point where it is becoming a challenge to not draw a flag much less a fine. As a result you have more going for the pick instead of getting into position for a tackle.

        Playing the ball instead of the player is leading to more long distance strikes. Gruden was talking about all the blown calls. There was a obvious blown “non” call in the Detroit where the DB had the receivers arm so he could not reach for the ball. That blown call could have blown the game for the Lions…

    • December 18, 2013 at 5:36 pm
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      Sargeant, the good news is that you have the Cy Young winner, the Most Valuable Player and now one of the premier relievers of the past 10 years. I hope your Tigers get over the hump next time unless the Rangers do.

      The lowly Cowboys had a chance to control their destiny and fell flat on their face. What a bunch of losers from ownership all the way down to the players on the field.

  • December 18, 2013 at 7:11 pm
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    As reported by letterman the other day, Santa has moved his workshop to China.



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