Republicans Vow to Develop Alternative to Obamacare

By Susan Cornwell | January 24, 2014
Obamacare

  • January 24, 2014 at 9:00 am
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    Didn’t they already vow to do this with, “Repeal and Replace”? And, further, in essence they are vowing to have an alternative to what was originally their plan and alternative to Hillarycare as developed by the Right Wing think tank The Heritage Foundation. This version of the Republican Party is as comical as a Tarantino ‘Tragedy’. I wonder when Quentin will make his cameo.

    • January 24, 2014 at 1:25 pm
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      Well, I finally figured out why you are such a fan of obama. Say an article on AOL that describe Des moines as the wealthiest cities in the nation. he has done well by you Cap…

      • January 24, 2014 at 1:59 pm
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        • January 24, 2014 at 2:24 pm
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          Agreed. Welfare & Food Stamp Recipients too as well as any one on any Govt Assistance and Unemployment too. If the Unemployed are sitting around smokin dope, how are they going to pass a drug test to get a job?

          How are the Corporate Tax Rates in IA?

    • January 26, 2014 at 1:58 am
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  • January 24, 2014 at 10:10 am
    cafenitro says:
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    They should be able to, considering they came up with Obamacare.

    • January 24, 2014 at 2:57 pm
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      Does oBama Care cover masking agents too?

      • January 24, 2014 at 3:46 pm
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        Huh?

        • January 24, 2014 at 3:51 pm
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          Masking Agent is something that hides the drugs in the system so as to beat the drug test. It can be taken orally or um, well somewhere above the Hammys.

          Ive seen people pay for clean urin. Back fires when they pluck a hair…

          • January 24, 2014 at 3:56 pm
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            Oh. I had no idea. Haven’t needed a masking agent since the 70′s. LOL!

          • January 24, 2014 at 4:19 pm
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            Notice not too many GNC’s left? that was their bread and butter.

            Did they drug test in the 70′s???

          • January 24, 2014 at 4:20 pm
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            Alex Rodrigure and Lance Armstrong had that down. Not a single positive test. Not even a hair tested positive..

          • January 24, 2014 at 4:23 pm
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            I don’t know if they did drug testing in the 70′s or not. But IF I were to need a masking agent, it would have been then. Haven’t had a need for one since then unless you count alcohol.

          • January 24, 2014 at 4:52 pm
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            If I remember the 70′s correctly, if you didnt have pot in your system, you didnt get the job. I worked in a Van Conversion shop back then. The owners were not shy about their Cocaine…

          • January 28, 2014 at 4:57 pm
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            FFA, Athletes are always trying to beat the system to gain an edge. I remember long distance runners in the Olympics that did blood doping to increase their endurance. The idea was to draw blood rich in red blood cells out and save it and then transfuse it back in right before they were to race. No trace of any chemicals, but it did help their times. In professional golf, we had the pro Vijay Singh try Antler spray which had small amounts of HGH in it to gain an edge. He spent $14,000 on that stuff and then got caught. By the way, he hasn’t won a tournament either since he can’t putt a lick. He appealed his suspension and I don’t think his case will go anywhere. His fellow pros don’t think much of him either.

  • January 24, 2014 at 11:03 am
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    The Modern GOP’s core platform:

    –Repeal the Obamacare bill they wrote and replace it with…something totally great, you’ll see, just trust ‘em.

    –Make it more difficult to vote, especially for voters that skew Democrat

    –Teach our kids that Earth is 3,000 years old, Jesus rode dinosaurs, and scientists are Communist Deceivers,

    –Close all womens’ health clinics, overturn Roe V Wade and give poor women free coat hangers

    –Eliminate communist programs like food stamps and public education

    –Enact freedom-loving programs like tax holidays for corporations with historical record-setting profits, eliminate estate taxes and make the income tax code fully regressive

    –Eliminate social security and send seniors coupons for discounted cat food. Try it, it’s really not that bad!

    –Bomb some new places, like Iran

    –Turn the borders into fully militarized zones, you know, like the Berlin Wall used to be like back in the Good Ole Days.

    –Exhume Nelson Mandela’s body and put it in Guantanamo Bay

    • January 24, 2014 at 11:43 am
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      Hilarious! A resounding thumbs-up from me!

    • January 24, 2014 at 11:50 am
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      Absoutely fantastic post ExciteBiker. You are the smartest in the room and get a star for the day! I can’t decide which of their platforms I find to be the most amusing and at the same time, consumingly depressing.

      • January 24, 2014 at 11:57 am
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        It’s a tie between Jesus, dinosaurs and catfood for me! But you’re right Captain. They’re ALL great. And depressing.

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    • January 24, 2014 at 12:32 pm
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      Fantastic post ExciteBiker!!! So glad they didn’t censor this like they have done with my posts recently. Especially if you write any anti-freedom fighter truth. Stay Classy in San Diego IJ, stay classy.

    • January 24, 2014 at 1:42 pm
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      Lets disect this:
      –Repeal the Obamacare bill they wrote and replace it with…something totally great, you’ll see, just trust ‘em.

      Biden pleaded with Americans during the VP Debate to trust him even though he knew at the time Millions would lose their Health insurance and end up pay lots more for a higher deductible.

      –Make it more difficult to vote, especially for voters that skew Democrat
      By asking for ID at a polling place? I need to flash my ID to get a beer, why not to vote?

      –Teach our kids that Earth is 3,000 years old, Jesus rode dinosaurs, and scientists are Communist Deceivers,
      Religious freedom. Believe what you want to. Or can we under OBama?

      –Close all womens’ health clinics, overturn Roe V Wade and give poor women free coat hangers

      Poor women can get free birth control from the local County Health Department. If not, there are no unwanted babies. When you meet your maker, square up with him.
      –Eliminate communist programs like food stamps and public education

      First eliminate foreign aide to our sworn enemies.
      –Enact freedom-loving programs like tax holidays for corporations with historical record-setting profits, eliminate estate taxes and make the income tax code fully regressive

      Anything to give them SOBs less of my money – your too.

      –Eliminate social security and send seniors coupons for discounted cat food. Try it, it’s really not that bad!
      At the current pace, SS will be bank rupt by the time I get there.

      –Bomb some new places, like Iran
      Before they drop a nuke on us, yes indeed!

      –Turn the borders into fully militarized zones, you know, like the Berlin Wall used to be like back in the Good Ole Days.
      Yes, keep the illegals out. After all, they are Illegal.

      –Exhume Nelson Mandela’s body and put it in Guantanamo Bay
      Is Gitmo still open? I thought Obama promised to close that place?

      Trust in an Ill Politician is the wrong thing to do…

      • January 24, 2014 at 1:54 pm
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        I’m with you Benito !

        • January 24, 2014 at 1:59 pm
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          He was my moms G Father. My Uncle was named after him too. Surprising, Uncle Ben is almost 100.

        • January 24, 2014 at 2:38 pm
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          BTW, Flatlander would be the proper term…. Cheese Grater is also acceptable (even though the Bears just blew the game against them)…

      • January 24, 2014 at 2:19 pm
        Don't Call Me Shirley says:
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        “Religious freedom. Believe what you want to.”

        It’s not religious freedom if it’s put into the public school curriculum, and kids are required to follow it. You can still believe whatever you want to believe without forcing it into the schools, but brainwashing children is child abuse.

        • January 24, 2014 at 2:27 pm
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          They dont teach religion in Public Schools in Illinois. Not sure about your neck of the woods. But not in IL.
          I thought the ACLU took care of that.

      • January 24, 2014 at 2:49 pm
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        Now let’s dissect this. I’ll use English. You know, all those letters that make up words that make up sentences, that make up paragraphs, that make up articles and stories, and novels and such:

        Lets disect this:
        (dissect, could be typo, although probably not)

        –Repeal the Obamacare bill…Trust us

        (just like Dubya EM Dees. Trust us, they are there. And when we find them, we’ll be on them like a Texican on his cousin)

        Voter ID – Maybe we should just gerrymander our districts, we can’t win without it….oh wait.

        Jesus and the dinosaurs – you can believe in whatever you want. But if Red States can’t read, write, or comprehend advanced math and science and the Blue State have to pick up the tab, don’t cry to us when you are forced to move to Texico and all you can do for work is taste test rocks.

        Poor women and coat hangers – What if you cousin or sister looks really hot one night after flashing your ID for beer and she flashes her you know what and you don’t have a rain coat? This happens all the time in the Red States.

        Elimination of Communist Programs – That’s fine, just remember Capitalism is about Gain and Loss. The Capitalization of your gains and your losses. Capitalism doesn’t account for tax write offs. That’s called Capitalization of Gains and Socialization of Losses (Corporate Welfare). Read “Wealth of Nations” by Adam Smith. One of those bunches of papers with them there words on them.

        SS and Bankruptcy – It will only be bankrupt if you let a conservative manage it. (But they are good at managing money. Just ask them)

        Bombing new places – Even better, make sure you aren’t putting booger sugar on your Cheerios in the morning. That causes paranoia and it will rot your brain from the nose up.

        -Militarized Boarders – Exactly. Put one north of Oklahoma unless they want to be part of the axis of evil too.

        - Gitmo – How about shutting down tons of prisons that contain non violent offenders, or replace them with prisons for Hedge Fund and Private Equity managers that eliminated the jobs in this country as well as offshore tax evaders.

        Trusting ill politicians – Don’t trust ANY Politician.

        • January 24, 2014 at 3:10 pm
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          “Trusting ill politicians – Don’t trust ANY Politician.”
          Born and raised in Il, were ya?

          Your Git Mo Comment – see club Fed in Brooks Wi. Home to many Il politicians… Probably where Obamas pals are at.

          • January 24, 2014 at 3:28 pm
            txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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            Yeah, like where Scooter Libby would have gone but he was pardoned. Go figure. What kind of 60 year old still goes by the name Scooter? I guess Ethan, Tag, Trip, and Niles were all taken.

          • January 24, 2014 at 3:33 pm
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            Who is Scooter Libby?

          • January 24, 2014 at 3:43 pm
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            He’s was Cheney’s Chief of Staff and was convicted for leaking that female CIA agents information to the media putting her life in danger. He lied about it on the stand and was convicted of 30 months in prison.

            That is until ole Dubya commuted his sentence. He spent less than one month in jail. 12 days actually.

            See FFA? Two can play that game. Not just Democrats.

          • January 24, 2014 at 4:05 pm
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            Not sure Pardons are the way to go. Do the crime, do the time.
            George Ryan commuted all Death Row inmates to Life in Prison before he was released. He failed the justice system and got a Nobel Prize for it. One of them I know for certain deserves to die but yet he lives. In my opinion, that one should have been a slow painful public death. He deserves to feel the pain he inflicted on his victims as well as the survivors of what he did. Drunk and on drugs does not excuse his actions. Not in my book…

          • January 24, 2014 at 4:22 pm
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            Well, FFA, I don’t think anyone but God has the right to kill people. I think life in prison (if it really IS life in prison) is a much crueller punishment than putting them out of their misery.

          • January 24, 2014 at 5:04 pm
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            This one in particular hit hard close to home. Affected people I am directly associated with.

          • January 26, 2014 at 9:22 pm
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            Yet another bogus leftist confused and gibberish argument by Libby:

            “Well, FFA, I don’t think anyone but God has the right to kill people. I think life in prison (if it really IS life in prison) is a much crueller punishment than putting them out of their misery.”

            Well gee Libby, if nobody but God has the right to kill people, than what person has the right to inflict a crueler punishment by putting them away for life. I always felt that those on the left had a mental disease. You are incontrovertible proof.

          • January 26, 2014 at 9:25 pm
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            Put Valerie Plame’s life in danger? She was a desk worker. More BS lefty talking points which are really bad. This from the person who wants to assassinate George Bush. Consider the source. Libby is nuts.

          • January 27, 2014 at 2:38 pm
            txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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            We need to reach a common denominator here. I thought that if you served your country you were a hero no matter what your job title. Broom pusher in a hangar at an Air Force base in Kansas that would never see any action, front line soldier in Afghanistan, or how about a diplomat in Benghazi. So she isn’t a hero then just because she had a desk job, or is this the latest talking point from Lard Limbaugh and Sean Insanity?

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            Put Valerie Plame’s life in danger? She was a desk worker. More BS lefty talking points which are really bad. This from the person who wants to assassinate George Bush. Consider the source. Libby is nuts.

          • January 28, 2014 at 12:48 pm
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            Dave – you’re a silly man. Of course we have the right to remove killers from society that are a danger to others. But we don’t have the right to kill them any more than they had the right to kill. What is hard to understand about that?

          • January 29, 2014 at 12:45 pm
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            Libby says:

            “Well, FFA, I don’t think anyone but God has the right to kill people….”

            What about the millions of babies that are killed by abortion every year, Libby?? God isn’t doing that!! You apparently support a man who supports abortion, which is murder. And, to make it worse, that man is making me, and others like me, pay for it. That is despicable, and so is he and anyone who supports him.

          • January 29, 2014 at 1:10 pm
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            Not a Liberal – that’s where you and I disagree but science and I agree. A fetus is not a baby. It can not survive outside the womb and is not a viable human being. Therefore, abortion is not murder.

          • January 29, 2014 at 1:25 pm
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            Libby says: “Not a Liberal – that’s where you and I disagree but science and I agree. A fetus is not a baby. It can not survive outside the womb and is not a viable human being. Therefore, abortion is not murder”. Nice try, Libby, really nice try. The POS in the WH also supports, and makes me pay for, LATE TERM ABORTIONS. They are no longer, as you put it, not viable. I thank GOD everyday that I am not a hypocrite liberal. How do you people sleep at night?!?

          • January 29, 2014 at 1:42 pm
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            **I meant to say that late term abortions ARE killing viable fetus’s, which, IMO, makes them BABIES!!!

      • January 24, 2014 at 7:22 pm
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        Teaching Creationism in schools is not “religious freedom.” It’s forcing something very private, religion, on children in a state-run institution. It violates the separation of church and state. This is a fact.

        Creationism is not science. Creationism has no place in any conversation regarding science. Bill Nye looks upon you with malcontent, sir/madam.

        • January 27, 2014 at 10:00 am
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          I dont have children of school age so I am not sure exactly what is or is not taught in school these days.

          You are correct. We must not teach our your alternative ways of thinking. We must teach them that thinking out side the box is wrong and should never happen. we should listen to all govt officials and trust they are out for our better interest. Afterall, they would never lie to us.

          • January 27, 2014 at 11:20 am
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            Creationism is not “thinking outside the box”. On the contrary, it’s backward thinking, based on ancient Middle-Eastern folklore.

            Most government officials believe in the magical sky-wizard. You’re right, FFA; we shouldn’t trust people like that.

          • January 27, 2014 at 11:51 am
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            How could you compare outside the box thinking with conservative ideas? Conservative ideology is about as outside the box as a high and tight hair cut. Seen one seen them all. Now get in formation soldier and no one is at ease until the new issue of Ronnie Reagan Weekly comes out with the new pictorial of him riding horses and wearing various cowboy hats. All in All it’s just another brick in the wall

          • January 27, 2014 at 12:05 pm
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            Especially the Muslim ones. They think that after murdering innocent people they will be rewarded with 72 virgins. Or is it Obamas end game to eliminate all the virgins? Maybe Obamas a non believer in all religion. Thou Shall Not Lie is not his motto.

          • January 28, 2014 at 8:28 am
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            FFA, sarcasm? Nice! Good job.

          • January 29, 2014 at 6:06 pm
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            FFA, on the Capital Punishment issue, Texas just executed an illegal alien for shooting a cop 3 times in the head from close range. He was on death row for almost 20 years and all the protests from the Mexican government did him no good. If you do a crime that heinous, you don’t deserve to live and Texas did the right thing.

        • January 27, 2014 at 11:24 am
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          If they don’t teach creationism the they should not teach evolution. They should also not allow muslims to toss out prayer rugs on school property.

          Btw the way, having the 10 commandments in or on school property must drive you crazy. I mean who would want to teach their children!- Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not commit murder, thous shalt not covet, thou shalt honor thy mother and father, thou shalt not commit adultry. Who would want to do something like that? A bunch of left wing do nothings that contribute nothing to society??

          • January 27, 2014 at 11:50 am
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            Obama must have had a snow day the day they covered Thou shall not lie. Dont know much about the coron, but there has to be something in their big 10 about being a straight face liar.

            I agree with Sarge – what good for the goose….

            How is the weather in your neck of the woods Sarge?? They are saying Coldest Day in History here. Wind Chill hitting 30 below. Cant be out for more then three minutes before I start to feel the cold.

          • January 27, 2014 at 12:24 pm
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            You have to have “commandments” to tell you right from wrong? Children can be taught good morals without the bribe of a magical kingdom on a cloud.

            Our founding fathers were the left-wingers of their time, let’s not forget. I guess Benjamin Franklin never contributed anything to society. Then there was that progressive kook, Thomas Jefferson, who wrote his own version of the New Testament, because he didn’t believe in the resurrection myth.

            Back to the 10 commandments, do the “followers” always follow them? I think many are better at talking the talk than walking the walk (e.g. Newt “Family Values” Gingrich). Is it ok to pick and choose which parts of the O.T. to follow and which parts to discard (e.g. eating shellfish)? Does the N.T. provide the “New Covenant” that overrides the O.T., or does it just override the inconvenient parts of the O.T.?

          • January 27, 2014 at 12:55 pm
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            DCMS, its a free country and I will believe what I choose to and I will respect your right just the same. At least for now, the constitution protects that.

            When someone pleads with the entire country “Trust Me” when he knows he is just telling straight face lie is the worst kind of liar. It lets our young know that Lying is ok because the VP & Pres did it. Yes, Bush too.

            Them are the people the Catholic Nuns should be educating. oBama, Biden and go ahead and type out your list. I am sure you have a long one just like the rest of the country.

          • January 27, 2014 at 2:23 pm
            txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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            So how come this thought process doesn’t apply to televangelists?

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            If they don’t teach creationism the they should not teach evolution. They should also not allow muslims to toss out prayer rugs on school property.

            Btw the way, having the 10 commandments in or on school property must drive you crazy. I mean who would want to teach their children!- Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not commit murder, thous shalt not covet, thou shalt honor thy mother and father, thou shalt not commit adultry. Who would want to do something like that? A bunch of left wing do nothings that contribute nothing to society??

          • January 27, 2014 at 5:50 pm
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            DCMS says “You have to have “commandments” to tell you right from wrong?”

            No matter what it is, people have to learn from somewhere.
            Me personally, I dont care where they learn the big ten, so long as they learn them.

          • January 28, 2014 at 1:45 pm
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            TXmouth, I don’t watch them so I cant comment. There is always something better on them them folks.

        • January 29, 2014 at 4:40 pm
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          Hey Trust Me, Good to have another Conservative on the post. If you are locking horns with Libby, you won’t get anywhere with her. 55 million babies aborted since Roe v Wade. She has no problem with that at all. Why do you think we have Abortion in Obamacare? Liberals just love to abort babies no matter how late term they are. Tiller the baby killer in Kansas contributed to Sebelius campaign when she was governor. She rewarded him with no charges no matter how many he killed.

      • January 26, 2014 at 10:27 am
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        FFA
        Dead on. All is silent with the kook fringe

        • January 27, 2014 at 5:57 pm
          Agent says:
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          Sergeant, if we want to see the next huge batch of lies, stay tuned for the State of the Union. I will not be able to watch it since it will be as nauseating as the previous 5, but it will be interesting to see the clips and commentary on what was said. I am sure he has a bunch of pens in the desk so he can rule by decree from now on.

          • January 28, 2014 at 9:06 am
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            Agent wrote, “…but it will be interesting to see the clips and commentary on what was said.”

            Now it is perfectly clear why you constantly take comments out of context and misconstrue them.

          • January 28, 2014 at 5:02 pm
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            Planet, it is interesting that you will hang on every word tonight and believe all the lies like the lemming jumping into the abyss of stupidity. 63% of the rest of the nation has awakened from their slumber and you are still stuck with the 37% of the true believers. It must be getting lonely for you trying to defend this nonsense.

          • January 29, 2014 at 9:00 am
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            We’ll all wait for you to give us the FoxNews and Drudge commentary on it since you won’t be watching.

        • January 29, 2014 at 4:55 pm
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    • January 24, 2014 at 4:03 pm
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      –Repeal the Obamacare bill they wrote and replace it with…something totally great, you’ll see, just trust ‘em

      Yea, like we can just the boob in office.

      * If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor
      * If you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance
      * Your insurance premiums will go down
      * If you don’t pass this stimulus bill unemployment will go over 8%
      * Benghazi was the result of a video, it was not a terrorist attack
      * I called it a terrorist attack the day after it happened
      * This will be the most transparent administration the world has ever seen.

      Need I go on? How can you tell when Obama, Biden, Clinton, Rice, Carney are lying? When their lips are moving. Just trust ‘em!

    • January 26, 2014 at 2:10 am
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      There were several republican plans, many CBO rated. It was great. I already showed the plan offering up to a $5,000 debit card to the poor to buy insurance of their choice, not the employer, as well as making income that goes to insurance premiums non taxable (so let’s say you pay %15,000 in the 15% earnings bracket, that’s $2,250 plus $5,000.) it was also rated to bring down premiums from the baseline 9% (whereas obamacare was going to raise it by 9% from the norm) and would include pre existing conditions. 18% cheaper insurance, elimination of employer based issues in insuring, no mandate, brought down premiums. The only reason it insured less people as per CBO is that it didn’t force people to buy insurance, and they figured people wouldn’t buy as much.

      Bull on the voting.

      I would talk to you on this, but you’re far to immature to understand “maturity” and “responsibility”

      Eliminate all programs to that of need. Food stamps are three times now what they were in Bush’s tenure. Supposedly the recession is over. So either it isn’t, or we have three times too many people on food stamps. Which is it? Republicans have always been about providing need. Not providing a lifestyle off the government. There is a difference.

      Tax holidays for corporations were to make incentives to bring jobs home. Our current rate is not competitive. Income tax code changes they suggest to not make the tax code regressive, and would for a fact help capital growth and distribution. The goal of taxes is not to deal with pay inequality, and many studies have shown the lower the corporate tax rate, the higher the pay of those in corporations.

      Wrong. The idea behind republicans is to create alternatives that don’t create debt, and then if you don’t actually get enough money to retire, then you get social security as a safety net. This was the idea behind roth and SRA retirement funds. They would keep it the same for current retirees. People in our age group would then invest into a 401k plan of sorts with their tax dollars. If they needed additional retirement after the 9% average the dow has averaged since WWII they would be given it. The tax credit for investing in the $25,000 income range would be $3,328 per year, or at 8% annual interest 1.6 million dollars at retirement, and twice the pay of social security per year without draining that 1.6 million. Inflation adjusted, you can expect half that from social security.

      Funny, That Iran thing is pretty high on Obama’s list.

      On immigration Bull.

      On Nelson Mendela, shut the hell up. That is not ok to say. Learn respect.

  • January 24, 2014 at 11:35 am
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    I oppose the status quo!

    • January 28, 2014 at 5:04 pm
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      Stig, I saw an interesting saying. Change is not necessarily Progress. Does that make you think? The country fell for “Hope & Change. Now, we hope there is a change in the near future.

  • January 24, 2014 at 12:33 pm
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    Perhaps they should use the 1989 Health Care reform plan that was put forth by the ultra-conservative Heritage Foundation. This is the same plan that was argued by Newt Gingrich in 1994 and the Republicans in Congress in 2009 as an alternative to Obama’s universal health care proposal. Oh, wait. That conservative idea turned into Romneycare and Obamacare. Never mind.

  • January 24, 2014 at 12:57 pm
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    The neo-cons sure are late in joining the IJ comments on this one! Just like they were with healthcare reform! LOL!!

    • January 24, 2014 at 2:00 pm
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      “The neo-cons”
      Neo Nazzi Convicts???

      • January 24, 2014 at 2:18 pm
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        No, silly. Neo-Conservatives.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

        • January 24, 2014 at 2:30 pm
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          Oh… A little slow today. Thinking I am gonna have to scrap the Snow Mobiling thing… G son gonna be disappointed. Had a little 440 lined up for him to ride solo on the trails… Was looking forward to the bonding. Maybe next week…

  • January 24, 2014 at 2:08 pm
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    Does anyone think that this law is not somewhat flawed? It may or may not be catastrophic, but it certainly is not perfect. Exploring alternatives or alterations to this law cannot be construed as a negative. Moody’s today changed their ratings on US Health Care insurers today to negative. The reason given was the number of high risk enrollees in the insurance exchanges. The naivete of the law was clearly revealed when it was authored to remove underwriting from the equation. You are all allegedly in insurance and should (and I am sure do) know that underwriting is the only way to match premium to exposure. Tragic as it may be, not all people (and things) are insurable. If they are insurable, underwriting must be employed to match a premium to the exposure represented. I was a Republican. I voted for Obama. Regret both decisions as the extremes in each party (that represent a tiny portion of our country) seem to dominate the policies and actions of the two parties. Independents are not an alternative as they get elected rarely. At least the Republicans (some of the more moderate ones) are trying to find a system to repair the damage done by this legislation. Perhaps we could embrace a move forward instead of squandering our energy on name calling, resentment, or hatred. Just a thought…..

    • January 24, 2014 at 2:41 pm
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      ” Moody’s today changed their ratings on US Health Care insurers today to negative. The reason given was the number of high risk enrollees in the insurance exchanges.”

      And who could not see this coming???? The decline of Health Care in the US is in full swing because of oBama.

      • January 27, 2014 at 6:00 pm
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        Don’t worry FFA. The bailout package will be forthcoming for all the carriers who signed onto this monstrocity. It will make Wall Street look like penneys on the dollar.

    • January 24, 2014 at 3:37 pm
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      “Perhaps we could embrace a move forward instead of squandering our energy on name calling, resentment, or hatred.”

      Absolutely, but you won’t get any hatred from me. A little name calling and some resentment, sure. I resent Congress wasting the last 5 years and running their own agendas. I resent the “moral majority” judging others when they are a bunch of hypocrites. And I resent the fact that all Americans do not have equal access to quality healthcare.

      This could be a positive step, but I am cautiously optomistic. I want to see them put their money where their mouth is and am afraid it may be a little too little too late.

      • January 26, 2014 at 10:37 am
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        LOL- Libby the first with name calling, the first with profanity, the first to argue with anyone and everyone and the last t I tell the truth. How is that sound on your computer?

        • January 27, 2014 at 6:01 pm
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          Sargeant, Libby is a Progressive troll who just loves to argue with anyone that has a Conservative post or viewpoint.

        • January 28, 2014 at 12:23 pm
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          Well, Sarge. If you could READ, I DID tell the truth. I said I use name calling. So do you. So does Bob. So what? Does it hurt your feelings, Soldier?

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          • January 29, 2014 at 9:02 am
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            Just because he acts like a little girl doesn’t mean I’m slamming his record. I don’t know anything about his record. He says he served. If so, I appreciate his service. Period. I don’t respect him for anything else as he is not worthy of respect.

  • January 24, 2014 at 2:48 pm
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    Blah blah blah.

    The Republicans are for the insurance companies share holders.

    The Republicans represent 85 of the richest people on this planet.

    That’s it.

    Don’t expect anything else.

    So whatever legislation the so called “Tea Partiers” (they’re partiers all right) or Republicans introduce will only be for giving back millions of dollars to the insurers in profit. Make health insurance less affordable and harder to get.

    Remember this.

    You the reader are more then likely not amoung the 85 they represent.

    The Republican’s represent 85 people that are all for in controlling the masses in order to keep control of their wealth and never ending power.

    They believe in the fear mongering that the planet is over populating on it’s own.

    The truth be known that people only over populate in condensed, oppressed areas (i.e. cities).

    There is no such thing as over population as long as there is death.

    Do not fear the masses, embrace them.

    Humanity would not exist at all if it weren’t for the masses.

    The plague would have killed us all if the 85 richest idiots had their way then.

    They may get their way soon.

    If their oppression continues.

    WISE UP READER

    • January 24, 2014 at 4:09 pm
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      Not Blue Cross. Their Top Dog has been seen many time with OBama…
      It was oBama that promised the Carriers a profit at the expense of tax payers.

    • January 26, 2014 at 11:07 am
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      Blue Communist-
      * 85 people. Evidently you did not watch the election results. If the liar in charge wasn’t selling lies he would have lost.
      *insurers making a profit- you are pointing at the wrong group. Blue Cross, Michigan recently said that they had CANCELLED 26 different type contracts because of Obamacare. That will be a 100 mill profit pick up for them. Oops 225,000 people lost their coverage- remember “you can keep your coverage”? Looks to me that it is Obama who is the health insurers friend.
      *Tea Partiers? As opposed to the Occupy Wall Street dope smoking, Neanderthal deadbeats,pis*ing in parks, stabbing people Obama supporters. What a joke
      *Fear mongering? Tell that to the families of the 3000 people who lost their lives on 9-11, or on the USS Cole, or the bombing of the US embassy in Lebanon, or the take over of the US embassy in Iran, or the 4 dead Navy Seals and the Embassy Ambassador in Benghazi. Remember Benghazi? That is the incident that Hillary Clinton said “what does it matter?
      * Fear mongering? You communist/ socialist fools embrace communism then rant when your one of the communist heroes Vladimer Putin prohibits homosexuality or expels illegals out of Russia because they are deemed a security risk to the country.

      You should be glad that a lot of soldiers died so you lay on the constitution and freedom of speech.

      Let me say this- I have NEVER met a soldier who enlisted to defend or fight for socialism or communism but I know a lot of them that died in order to let fools like you run their mouth.

      • January 27, 2014 at 4:58 pm
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        Pretty sad to drop the dead soldier reference. Even sadder that so many of them had to fight in offensive wars that would benefit the rich. Even sadder than that is the lack of family foundation and family values in the South and rural parts of this county that still use the military as their way out of the “ghetto”.

        • January 27, 2014 at 11:16 pm
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          booger eater,

          what is sad is your lack of knowledge as to why they were put in harms way. Offensive wars? ha I suppose you are including Afghanistan where Obama escalated the war, increased troops and failed to withdraw troops like he promised, I mean lied about. Or Syria where Obama helped start a war? As far as family values? There are just as many or more enlisted from the rust belt and Northeast as there is anywhere else. I know. They are as happy to get out of NYC, Chicago, Detroit, South Los Angeles, Cleveland, Newark or Miami. Especially the hispanics and black recruits. Not necessarily the South. You don’t have a clue

        • January 28, 2014 at 11:47 am
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          And you are an idiot Boogereater. The South has a proud military tradition as far back as you want to go. They have fought in every war proudly to defend this country. You are very wrong to disparage Sergeants military record. If it were me, I would ship you to GITMO so you could enjoy the company of the real bad guys.

          • January 28, 2014 at 12:40 pm
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            No one is disparaging anyone’s military service but I sure as hell won’t salute any part of any militarized state. The South has a strong military tradition because that’s where we put most of our bases. Remember the reconstructionist period after the Civil war that your Pee Paw Jebidiah fought in. Remember why we went into war in the first place? We built military installations there to provide jobs for the Rebs and eventually build up their economy. In turn, the south decided that reading books, math, and science were no longer necessary because the government was going to provide jobs not to mention the amount of money the defense contractors would receive. Recruiters have goals they have to hit, and if they don’t they go overseas, they don’t want to do that so they recruit the bottom half of every high school class. Put quotas on something like that and you have real problems. These wars are offensive, for example after 9/11 we could have followed the money trail and went after as OJ would say, “find the real killers”. We didn’t do that because Dubya had bad intelligence. (Bush/Intelligence = Oxymoron) He had an ulterior motive and that was that just like most Republican Presidents, it’s “cool” to be a war time president. So what we do is get the country rallied around the troops. Go to a sporting event and you have to see camo-colored jerseys, corporate county music sings songs about the troops to increase sales. Donate to these “non profit” military charities and only portions are actually sent to the actual cause. It’s all a ploy to increase revenue across the board and that’s all. And at 6’4″ 240lbs Agent, you wouldn’t be sending me anywhere.

          • January 28, 2014 at 1:51 pm
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            Sounds like you are to me. My family tree does not exist in the US back to the civil war. All 4 my Gr Parents immigrated Legally to the US. dads side from Denmark. Mom from Italy.

            Me – I am an American. I dont disrespect the military at all.

          • January 28, 2014 at 2:05 pm
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            Nor does my family tree. But you do disrespect the military if you use it as a pawn for political gains or profit.

          • January 28, 2014 at 2:31 pm
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            Obama using the Air Force as air support for Al Quada in Syria.

            Hows that sit with you? Respectfull or Disrespectfull?

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          • January 29, 2014 at 10:17 am
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            “LBJ (D) put a lot of bases in Texas because he had friends with Brown & Root Construction and they were awarded the contracts, and they & he got very rich as a result.”

            Hmmmmm. Sounds just like G.H.W. Bush (R)and G.W. Bush (R) and the Saudis. And Dick Cheney (R) and Haliburton. You Texans are just a bunch of crooks aren’t you?

      • January 30, 2014 at 10:55 am
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        Sargeant, it is fairly well known that the Health Carriers have been in bed with Obama since before the ACA was passed. There have been numerous meetings at the White House with the CEO’s. I would have liked to be a fly on the wall at those meetings to see what the plan was going forward. One question might have been – Mr. President, what if we don’t get the enrollment we were looking for and just the old and sick sign up and the young people don’t? President says – Not to worry, I will bail you out if you get into trouble and are losing big time.

        This appears to be what is happening since the Millenials sure aren’t signing up and only 11% of the truly uninsured are signing up.

  • January 24, 2014 at 3:43 pm
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    Once again the knuckle dragging gop has to come up this as a solution?:

    Instead of starting with a total repeal, Republican Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin has suggested transition legislation that might initially eliminate some provisions such as mandatory coverage of maternity care and move people with pre-existing conditions into high-risk insurance pools.

    No birth control and no maternity care? (they have already cut food stamps while expanding crop insurance) Who exactly should benefit from health care? Maybe the gop should talk to their wives, mothers and daughters… it would be a start!

    • January 28, 2014 at 9:02 am
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      No one said there will be NO maternity or birth control coverage. Just that if you want/need that coverage you should pay for it. While I’m not sure that birth control coverage actually adds cost to policies, it is a given that anyone who wants maternity coverage will have claims. Therefore, an additional charge for these coverages is reasonable.

      It would be nice to know how much rates changed just with the addition of these two mandated coverages. However, with all the other changes mandated at the same time, it might take an actuary to answer that question.

      • January 29, 2014 at 2:36 pm
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        Finally an intelligent post KYjw. Libby is going to attack you again for being a voice of reason. Choice is what it is all about. If an applicant does not want maternity, they should have the right to delete it for a reduction in premium, not be forced to take it for the exhorbitant rate charged. The one size fits all model of Obamacare is the very reason it is unaffordable for most Americans. The mandates are responsible for this failed model.

        • January 29, 2014 at 3:32 pm
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          Ah! Choice. You mean like the choice to have an abortion or a baby? The choice to marry the person I love regardless of gender? The choice to be free from religion?

          Do you mean those choices or only the ones you choose?

          • January 29, 2014 at 5:01 pm
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            Do gays need birth control Libby? Is it in the law that gays have the right to marry? If it is, I am not surprised since everything else is in there in this 2,700 page monstrocity.

        • January 30, 2014 at 7:27 am
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          It’s possible that the mandates are the straw that broke this camel’s back. However, I’m not a fan of PPACA so my opinions are a tad biased.

          • January 30, 2014 at 11:00 am
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            I agree completely KYjw. The mandates are the worst problem with this law. There is no choice for consumers that don’t want the mandated coverages. They did have a choice when we had the previous health insurance plans and they bought what they wanted. That right was taken away and no wonder premiums are outrageous and people like FFA & I have to have Maternity Coverage, Abortion, Birth Control to pay for other people. What a joke!

          • January 31, 2014 at 10:36 am
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            Agent: Just because you have the coverage doesn’t mean you’re paying for it. Don’t you think the insurers have factored that into the rate for an over 50 person? They know you’ll never use it.

  • January 24, 2014 at 4:13 pm
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    why should I be paying for Maternity and Birth Control when it is physically impossible for my wife and I to have more Children? I agree with Libby, if I want it, I can have it as an option.

    As far as moving people with Pre X’s, what do you think this does in its current form? My wife exceeds our premium monthly in what she has going on. No profit off my premiums.

    • January 24, 2014 at 4:26 pm
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      An insurance carrier will never profit off of each and every policy. That’s the reason for the spread of risk.

      • January 24, 2014 at 5:08 pm
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        My agencies loss ratio with Blue Cross is going to be out of this world high… Everyone I have put on has on going treatment. So, I have out on about 15. Has anyone out there put 15 on that will not generate immediate and on going claims?

      • January 28, 2014 at 5:17 pm
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        How do you like your spread of risk now Libby? Mostly the old and sick are applying and very few Millenials. Doesn’t sound much like a viable risk pool to me.

    • January 24, 2014 at 5:03 pm
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      you are mandated to pay for birth control because if you keep taking that follower and not leader stance (Catcher not Pitcher) you could end up pregnant. Lamda Lamda Lamda! just sayin’. You have to learn not to follow suit with your party line on every issue. You are not part of the 1% and never will be. That’s not how you make it in ‘Murrica. To make it, Grand Pappy had to be a WASP, followed by Pee-Paw a Klansman. You better have gone to a private school from elementary through all 7 years of college, take over Daddy’s business all while never having to find a job for yourself.

      • January 27, 2014 at 11:19 pm
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        Well Booger Eater,

        What is truly sad is it is to bad your mother did not practice birth control.

        • January 28, 2014 at 8:37 am
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          Likewise. Too bad they didn’t have coat hangers around prior to your birth. In fact I heard that’s why they were invented. Your poor mother had to get punched in the gut repeatedly to try to make up for her mistake but unfortunately all that came out of it was another drone jar head.

  • January 25, 2014 at 11:10 am
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    I have to pay for maternity because some jack ass in the white house is DICTATING to me what I have to buy. No, I nor my wife can end up pregnant. Medically / Physically impossible.

    Your Racist Crap dont cut it with me. I just dont buy into that bull shit. Believe what you want. Its a free country for now anyways.

    • January 26, 2014 at 11:12 am
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      FFA,
      I had to laugh, “Texas Booger eater” probably is-lol. Most of what he or she deplores goes on in Detroit everyday. By the way “Booger Eater” that is north of the Mason-Dixon Line. But you probably don’t know what that is.

      • January 27, 2014 at 8:42 am
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        Jarhead,

        I do know where the Mason Dixon line is. That’s where we need to build a ditch as well as a fence to keep our 18th and 19th century ‘murricans to the south of us out.

        • January 27, 2014 at 11:28 am
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          So Tx Booger Eater- Are the boogers you eat in Tx bigger than anywhere else?
          You can’t be from Texas making fun of the Texas accent the way you do.
          let me guess you are a East coast transplant who moved with someone like JC Penny, got a pay increase from no state tax in Texas and really are a frustrated, New Yorker with an accent like- I liv down on thoity thoid and thoid wearda boids is choiping?

          • January 27, 2014 at 11:54 am
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            Sarge, JC Penny made the top ten list of Business on the verge of folding. They have already closed two stores in my neck of the woods and now targeting another biggie in my neck of the woods. Biz just pulling out left and right out of this state while the Dems in power talk about extending the Temp Tax hike of 65%.

          • January 27, 2014 at 12:23 pm
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            You must be one of them there smart ones. Of course I’m not from Texico nor ever worked for JC Penny, but I do have an accent. It’s just a name Jarhead, I would have put txmouthbreatherboogereaterknuckledraggertx but they only let you fit so many letters as your user name. The name derives from the kinfolk of the land of criminals and what happens when you live in a nation with no rules. At Ease Maggot

          • January 27, 2014 at 1:55 pm
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            Geez sarge, the disrespect for the sacrifice you made…
            If she don’t like the results of your efforts on behalf of the entire nation, maybe he should just move to Syria..

            To all our vets – THANKS…

            The way obama has our air force running recon for AlQuaida, she may appreciate that.

          • January 27, 2014 at 2:11 pm
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            JC Penny isn’t pulling out of IL because of high taxes, they are closing stores because JC Penny is a failed business model. It never evolved as times have changed. This is what happens with a conservative mindset and shows the importance of teaching evolution in school. I wonder if they teach evolution in the Roman, Byzantine, or Ottoman Empires.

          • January 27, 2014 at 3:00 pm
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            I know that TX. I read the article. I posted the article.
            I know why JC Penny is having issues. Too many unemployed. Not enough consumers…

            A Govt (fed and State and Local) that dont give a crap about the average Joe and just wants to tax the profit right out of the biz community is what is responsible for the failure.

          • January 27, 2014 at 3:26 pm
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            Until the biz community starts hiring back all the people that were laid off as well as pay them the salaries they made, then they should be paying the highest taxes. Look at all the 10K reports and look at the amount of cash these companies are raking in. It’s not from sales, it’s from lower payrolls. Now when people are being hired back, they are making far less money for the same job title. Cost of living isn’t getting any lower, the price of consumer goods isn’t getting any lower. You shouldn’t be rewarded with tax benefits in a profit driven society unless have cured cancer. Sell more products and make more money, that’s what capitalism is. Eliminate the tax breaks and tax cheats and you will eventually see taxes reduce. That is of course if we shut down all the senseless military bases we have world wide.

            I know that TX. I read the article. I posted the article.
            I know why JC Penny is having issues. Too many unemployed. Not enough consumers…

            A Govt (fed and State and Local) that dont give a crap about the average Joe and just wants to tax the profit right out of the biz community is what is responsible for the failure.

          • January 27, 2014 at 5:11 pm
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            Well, Tx, when there are consumers that are buying, they will hire more.

            Many articles I have read state that the big corps are holding their cash because they are afraid of what oBama Care is going to do to them. I believe they already know (cut hours to part time only) and pay inflated ins premiums that oBama says are affordable. Sure they are affordable at the expense of the labor force. Gonna be higher premiums so the tax deduction will be higher. So the Govt is going to no only lose employment tax revenue, but the Employee Benefits Line on the tax return will beef up and the fed will lose more. Then the jack ass is gonna turn around and borrow more money furthering the problem and not solving it.

            Thats obamonomics. Put out rules & regs that cost Americans their jobs, that encourage exportation of our capitol and jobs.

            In regards to your disrespect towards the military, go live in the mid east if you don’t like it. Stick you hand out, I am sure this jack ass will be sending more of my tax dollars there.

          • January 27, 2014 at 6:04 pm
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            Sargeant, He or she is not from Texas unless they are related to Wendy Davis who blatantly lied about her background. She is a trailer trash bitch of the first order.

          • January 28, 2014 at 11:42 am
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            Agent,

            How much horsepower does your Rascal Scooter have?

      • January 27, 2014 at 10:07 am
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        Suppose I should just fall in line and follow our trusty leaders.

    • January 27, 2014 at 11:56 am
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      I’ve had to pay for maternity for many years, long before Obama was in the White House. Don’t get me wrong; I’m not one of his fans. But let’s get our facts straight. I also have to pay for a Republican congressman from Tennessee to get a $70,000 per year handout (welfare) from the government (in addition to his salary), even though he’s filthy rich. It’s otherwise known as a subsidy; I wonder how many hours a week he spends out in those fields, actually “farming”.

      • January 27, 2014 at 12:28 pm
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        We can stand toe to toe and name crooks on both sides of the table. I am in IL, so I would bet I would win the “list off the top of my head” competition. I am sure Sarge would be competitive in that also.

        One thing holds true on my list, Majority are Dems and they are
        from Chicago – Cook County in particular. Do I need to remind you where Obama cut his teeth?

        And when I was in child bearing years, I gladly paid for Maternity. I like the whole “take care of my own” line of thinking vs the sponge off of everyone else because I am too lazy to actually get a job Obama way of thinking.

    • January 28, 2014 at 10:47 am
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      Hey FFA. Joyful news! Oklahoma has introduced an Obamacare nullification bill similar to South Carolina, Georgia, Indiana and hopefully many more to follow. The bill states that no employee of state government may implement or use state funds to implement Obamacare. It is the Feds baby all the way. I wonder what would happen if the 36 states that opposed this travesty all passed the same thing. Texas legislature is out of session right now or they would probably do the same. Perhaps Perry should call a Special Session to take it up.

      • January 28, 2014 at 1:18 pm
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        Pin Heads in Il are setting up a state exchange… Knuckle Heads!
        Indiana I am sure is bowing to the Amish Community. So many of them out there with so many employees… Taking care of their own.

      • January 28, 2014 at 2:10 pm
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        I thought the states that didn’t set up their own exchange didn’t have any expense related to implementation. What expenses will these laws prohibit?

        • January 28, 2014 at 2:34 pm
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          Govt Intrusion in private business always brings expense. I have received two notices so far explaining the my (former) group policy was not in Compliance with OfnBama dictates to me what he thinks I should have.

          imagine all the trees that need to be cut down to get this information out… To everyone. All the notices. You policy is cancelled. Ooops, its not cause Obama changed his mind due to the uproar over his lie.

          • January 29, 2014 at 8:48 am
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            I was asking about the state government expenses that Agent said are now prohibited. I can’t think of any expense the state would have if they didn’t build their own exchange.

            My next thought is, if the Feds are actually picking up the tab (which is how it works now), would this law stop those expenses too?

          • January 29, 2014 at 2:42 pm
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            FFA, if a tree falls in the forest and hits a Liberal in the head, does it make a sound? My guess is a very loud sound since it is hitting solid rock.

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:16 pm
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            And just the opposite, when a tree his a conservative in the head, it makes an echo from the empty cranial cavity.

          • January 30, 2014 at 11:06 am
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            FFA, did you see the article that the State Exchanges received $1.2 Billion of our tax dollars to set up their exchanges and practically none of them work. I wonder if the Canadian company setting up Healthcare.gov got their contracts as well. Oregon’s was so bad the Director quit and they had to resort to a 19 page paper app. The story broke yesterday that California had 43 convicted felons acting as Navigators, some with multiple offenses. Do you think there is potential for fraud in CoverCal?

  • January 26, 2014 at 10:39 pm
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    I see a strong element of denial here, on the part of my liberal friends. Just what do you expect to happen, if the exchange insurers take a collective bath in red ink? It does appear that the healthy middle class, whose jacked-up premiums were intended to offset the costs of caring for the seriously ill, have largely been priced out of the exchanges, leaving the insurers with disproportionate numbers of the sick and/or subsidized. Don’t take my word for it: The Aetna site will tell you that an unsubsidized Texas couple, age 50, can expect to pay $628 a month for a policy with a deductible of $5,500 for each, and $816 a month for a lower deductible of $3,500 each. Such couples will try to get by without insurance, while the less disfavored enjoy subsidized coverage. Conservatives don’t need an alternative “plan.” It’s just a matter of time before it becomes obvious to all that the insurers will not remain in the exchanges unless the public makes good their losses, pursuant to these arcane “risk corridors.” (See Explaining ‘Risk Corridors,’ the Next Obamacare Issue, WSJ, 1-22-14.) Any such proposed payments will, of course, be condemned as a “bailout.” We’re talking political suicide here. But continue with your merriment. We will bide our time, and see you on election day.

  • January 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm
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    FFA

    The weather here is cold and snow. Looks like we will set a low temp record tonight. How about you?

    • January 27, 2014 at 6:06 pm
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      I hope you folks up north are enjoying all that Texas natural gas we are shipping to the north and east. We have it in abundance down here and the pipelines are running 100%.

      • January 27, 2014 at 11:25 pm
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        I for one appreciate it! Thanks and keep it coming. However, if Obama has his way the cost of natural gas will double. God Bless Texas!

        • January 28, 2014 at 9:41 am
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          He did say during his first campaign that under his plan, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket. That is one prediction that came true. It is too bad that people weren’t paying attention to what he said back then.

      • January 28, 2014 at 9:33 am
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        No natural gas in my house. The whole concept makes me nervous. On the other hand, my electricity is supplied by coal fired plants. I do like my cheap electricity, but it comes at a cost to the areas where the coal is mined. Strip mining and mountaintop removal create eyesores in KY.

        Although, I vaguely remember reading an article in the Lexington paper that natural gas will be used at electric plants built in the future. So, I will be an indirect customer some day.

        • January 28, 2014 at 10:09 am
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          KYjw, in Texas where there has been strip mining for lignite coal, the mining companies go in and landscape and restore the land, plant trees and other vegetation after it is mined so it won’t be an eyesore. Too bad if Kentucky doesn’t make them do that up there.

          • January 28, 2014 at 11:00 am
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            Cost Sky rocket???? I run LP in WI. For the week I was there, $172.00 gas bill with a $107 electricity bill. For one week…

          • January 28, 2014 at 2:14 pm
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            No, the coal companies “donate” the land to the state. Well, at least one location was donated. I think some places were “reclaimed” somehow, but I’m not sure. I have no idea if the companies are supposed to do any restoration. I haven’t been keeping up with that now that I don’t travel through Eastern Kentucky.

        • January 28, 2014 at 2:16 pm
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          Wow, FFA, that puts my electric bill in perspective. You paid in one week more than I pay in my most expensive month. Again, I like my cheap electricity.

          • January 28, 2014 at 5:26 pm
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            KYjw, the coal companies didn’t own the land in Texas. They leased it for mining with the contract being they had to reclaim it when they were through mining. It has worked well and you can hardly tell any mining went on in these areas. I had an insured who got a contract with them for reclaiming it. He did a lot of grass, tree planting and made it look great.

          • January 29, 2014 at 8:52 am
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            That’s pretty cool, Agent. Like I said, I haven’t been through the coal mining areas of Kentucky for a while (years), so I’m not sure if reclaimation is happening or not. I hope it is.

          • January 29, 2014 at 2:45 pm
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            Enjoy your cheap electricity while you can KYjw. It is all coming to a screeching halt via the EPA and Obama and their war on the coal industry. Ask WVagt sometime what they are doing to his state.

          • January 30, 2014 at 7:40 am
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            Yeah, I have read the news regarding the EPA and coal fired plants. I’m sure the rates will get ugly one of these days.

      • January 28, 2014 at 11:37 am
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        Nah, we have our own natural gas up here we just have a problem with transient rock eating Texicans have been poisoning our water for a few years now because they think it’s a good idea to frack in highly populated areas. But the NIMBY’s keep saying Drill by Drill like when you are on a date with the Wahoo from Wasilla.

  • January 27, 2014 at 5:32 pm
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    TX booger eater said- “It’s just a name Jarhead,”

    Ok I am a Jarhead- Semper Fi! I like it. How about you? You like being a booger eater??

    As far as the great State of Texas- It is a great place. Great native Texans, great beef, great state government. You called it Texico- So your a racist on top of being a left wing kook, what a combo. And you knock the South- WOW

    • January 28, 2014 at 10:04 am
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      I sure do like being a booger eater. I sit in the stands at High School football games on Friday nights at Davy Crockett Alamo High. I think it’s near Arlen, TX. “Ole Ball Coach and I talk about how we almost won “State” back in the day and how evolution is bad for ‘Murrica, we talk about cows and how great they are, we look up to state government like it’s gospel and sing the State Anthem at every Pop Warner football game and bass fishin’ tournament. On Saturdays we place our bets on how many executions will take place the following week, and what the over/under will be on the time it takes to kill each inmate. We do this at our Mega Church on the corner of Tom Landry Ave and David Koresh BLVD. You would think which such a great state government that we would deter all the rock eaters from committing crimes. Guess not.

    • January 28, 2014 at 5:29 pm
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      Thank you Sargeant. I wonder what boogereater would do if Texas just shut the pipeline down and stopped shipping natural gas to the East Coast. I think he would be a little bit cold. These libs don’t appreciate a gas producer that provides so much energy to the country.

    • January 29, 2014 at 6:10 pm
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      Semper Fi!, Sargeant. Us veterans have got to stick together.

      • January 31, 2014 at 10:56 am
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        “We” veterans, Agent. I know you’re from Texas, but please try to speak proper English.

  • January 27, 2014 at 5:33 pm
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    Talking 20 below without wind chill for tonight. Its my bowling night and they have not closed the ally, so…. Guess I am going to experience it first hand (and face). No snow however.

    • January 27, 2014 at 10:46 pm
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      Yep, that is cold. Same here. We set a new annual snow record Saturday and we are still in January. Had another 3 inches yesterday and about 1/2 inch today. It is also to cold to ski, at least for me. Kids might go but I will sit in the lodge with something warm to drink!

      • January 28, 2014 at 12:02 pm
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        Went to sleep in Il last night. Though I woke up in Alaska… 33 below wind chills this AM. Supposed to warm up a bit today followed by a blast of snow coming from…. TEXAS…??…???

        • January 28, 2014 at 2:20 pm
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          Ouch! We got pretty cold, but thankfully no where near those wind chills. Just hovering around 0. Yesterday morning was mid 20s. And I was so excited when I went to start my car. Heat wave!

        • January 29, 2014 at 2:50 pm
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          Not from here FFA. We got down to the low 20′s and high of about 40. That would be a heat wave up there for you. Alabama and Georgia has had a problem with ice on the roads. Some people are sleeping in supermarkets because they can’t get home and schools were keeping the kids there because they couldn’t transport on the buses.

          Where is Al Gore? Is he vacationing in the Bahamas? I thought the Global Warming was in full swing, all due to man’s fault.

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:08 pm
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            The weather system that is going to produce the snow is coming out of TX.

            I have no idea where the Al would be hiding. I’ll bet he is off somewhere warm trying to prove his point.

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm
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            Agent,
            Would you like to define for the class the difference between weather and climate? Also, can you please explain why the jet streams are dissipating, which is causing this current weather phenomenon in our country as well as the well above average temps in Australia?

          • January 29, 2014 at 4:33 pm
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            Captain – Agent can’t let science get in the way!

          • January 30, 2014 at 11:13 am
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            Interesting comment FFA. I always thought the cold fronts came down from Canada. Our weatherman keeps telling us the cold fronts are coming from there to affect us. Perhaps the humid air from the south met the cold air from the north to give all that snow and the Vortex from Global Warming caused by man is the culprit. Poor Planet thinks it is the jet stream caused by man has changed to bring on these patterns. No wonder the Wooly Mammoth is extinct now.

          • January 30, 2014 at 6:03 pm
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            Cap asks :Also, can you please explain why the jet streams are dissipating”

            because Mother Nature said so.

          • January 31, 2014 at 10:25 am
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            What about the change in the migration of animal life, on land, air, and in the sea (in conjunction with the dissipating jet streams and on a much larger scale than we have EVER seen)? Keep ignoring the science and live in that bubble of misinformation of yours. Agent, do you believe in carbon dating or gravity? How old is the planet?

  • January 27, 2014 at 5:44 pm
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    FFA said- “JC Penny made the top ten list of Business on the verge of folding.
    Hey FFA yes, they are on the verge of BK but for a lot of reasons. I used them because that was the first company to come to mind. But I will say that business is moving out of places like California and New York to places like Texas, Florida, Arizona etc. and the South. Just look at the auto companies. Toyota built a factory n Georgetown Ky and builds 1/2 a million cars a year, Mercedes Benz built a plant in Huntsville Alabama, BMW built a plant in Greenville SC. I don’t hear Northeast, New York, New Jersey, Cleveland or Detroit.
    Check out this article from the Orange County Register (California newspaper)

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/moved-342887-companies-texas.html

    • January 27, 2014 at 5:57 pm
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      state Farm heading south too.

      just had a conversation with someone that works at Lowes. In regards to their health insurance, the writing is on the wall. Seems they are heading in the same direction as Home Depot did – cutting hours under 25. The biggest advocate of under/unemployment is striking again.

      Way to go OBama – pushing even more towards the poverty line… when will the madness stop???

      • January 27, 2014 at 10:48 pm
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        I heard that State Farm is considering a move. Is that definite and where are they relocating?

        • January 28, 2014 at 9:35 am
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          Sargeant, State Farm is expanding their operation in the Dallas/Ft Worth Metroplex. I don’t know if the Home Office will end up there, but it will be a very large office presence. Gee, I wonder what attracted them to Texas. After all, some of the libs on this blog think all we do is create low paying temp jobs.

        • January 28, 2014 at 11:06 am
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          State Farm is in the process of filling up the office space in Tx and I believe GA. I have not heard officially that Corporate is relocating, but they are offering home buy outs to people that want to relocate and many are biting. The ones that don’t relocate are most likely hitting the unemployment line.

          Their goal is to have the west suburban facility empty by year end. Gonna run skeleton crew from employees houses to handle what they need feet on the ground for.

          • January 28, 2014 at 2:23 pm
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            Huh. That’s interesting. Thanks for the info. I wonder if the Rusts are moving too.

          • January 28, 2014 at 3:32 pm
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            JW, According to the folks I know that work there, Rust has said he will not move Corp out of IL.

            Writing on the wall, not yet. Gonna maintain a small essential Corp office in Bloomington. But people are being transferred. Rust may be pulling an oBama. One thing for sure, bloomington unemployment rate that typically skews the state rate down is going to jump causing a jump in the state rate that has been running 2% higher then the national average.

            Wonder if Allstate & Country Companies are paying attention???

            lost 1500 jobs in the office max deal. 6000 on Dominics. Meanwhile, Springfield sits there collecting their pay checks…

          • January 28, 2014 at 3:40 pm
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            Why is it Springfield’s fault that Office Max sold out and Dominics and Penny’s were bad business models?

            Talk about not taking responsibility and blaming all your troubles on someone else! Springfield didn’t do any of that.

          • January 29, 2014 at 12:09 pm
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            As far as Office Max goes, they had a “Bill” they were passing threw the system that never got presented to Quinn that would give them a break to HQ in IL. Session ended with out a vote. Not at the very least putting the effort into saving the 1500 jobs is there fault. Instead of gaining the Office Depot Corp Jobs, they let 1500 Office max jobs walk without even trying to save them.

            Pennys – Bad Management – Poor Economy. Dominics- I honestly don’t know what happened there. I was fed Dominick food from my mid teens through my late 40′s.
            I dont hold Springfield accountable for them. They seem to be in denial about State Farm. I blame them for that. Bloomington Area drags the IL Unemployment rate down by two points. With out the major employer, its just gonna get worse here state wide.

            Witht the shrinking population of IL, why do we need so many state senators and house members?

    • January 28, 2014 at 4:45 pm
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      And Sargeant, Boeing put a plant in South Carolina to build a new jet liner. The unions had a fit, but they couldn’t stop it. Boeing had to pledge to keep jobs in Washington state, but they didn’t have plans to do that anyway.

      Have you noticed any of the commercials New York is making? They are saying if you open a new business in NY, you won’t pay any taxes for 10 years. ???? Could this be a reaction to business leaving that state? Cuomo said Conservatives weren’t welcome in that state anymore. Guess what Governor, businesses are mostly Republican entrepreneurs. Something is wrong with this picture.

    • January 29, 2014 at 5:15 pm
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      Planet, can your brain be actually shrinking in size? Perhaps you should have a new IQ test to see if you have declined to the Idiot range. The earth has been having changes in weather patterns longer than man has been here. It is not due to man being here to affect it. So what if the jet stream changes from time to time. That is what it does. We are now having a Polar Vortex in parts of the country. So what! We have always had these natural things happen. In the 30′s there was a hot period and we had the dust bowl in the mid west. No one blamed Global Warming back then. In a few years, it reversed and the area blossomed again. I have found that weathermen can’t predict the weather 2 days in advance. They just grin at the camera and say they told us there was only a 30% chance of rain and it didn’t develop. With all their technology in satellites etc, they are no better than the weahtermen of the 50′s.

      • January 29, 2014 at 6:18 pm
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        So, you can’t tell us the difference between weather and climate, then? Okay, didn’t think so. Once you educate yourself on the difference, I’d like you to tell us what the CLIMATE has done in the last 100 years compared to previous geological record. You can consult with the 98% of scientists who have proven time and time again climate change is a fact. Not the 2% of scientists I see and hear on Faux News. Then, correlate what CLIMATE has done in those last 100 years to how humankind has changed (become more industrialized – hint). Finally, ask yourself what it means to be a steward of the planet and in what ways can you do a better job of that. The planet is going to be around a lot longer than humans are, after all. And, it is a living thing. So, it needs nurtured.

        • January 30, 2014 at 11:19 am
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          Planet, are you talking about the Climate Scientists who had to resign in disgrace for their Al Gore predictions? Do you have any evidence that the seas are rising or the Polar Bears are nearing extinction? How about those Global Warming nuts who went to Antartica expecting to see penguins basking in warm water only to get stuck in the thickest ice in decades and had to be rescued? Even the ice breakers couldn’t get to them and they had to ferry them out on choppers. That ship may be there for a long time.

          • January 30, 2014 at 12:16 pm
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            Agent – they are easy-to-read questions and in perfectly good English. Can you answer my questions or not? I see you are, in a roundabout way, describing weather. You still haven’t defined it, though. I seriously doubt you can and it is quite clear you do not understand that difference between it and climate. Then again, you were predicting, no, I think you actually guaranteed Romney in a landslide. So I must consider the source.

        • January 30, 2014 at 1:00 pm
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          Planet, your 98% are the ones who have been proven wrong and discounted in the past 5 years. The truth is that we have cycles in weather/climate like the world had had for eons. The only warming we have had is all the hot air emanating from Washington DC. By the way, how do you like it up there on the frozen tundra corn fields? Played any golf recently? I haven’t missed a Saturday yet down here.

          • January 30, 2014 at 2:21 pm
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            You really are amazing, Agent, you just can’t answer a straight forward question with a straight forward answer. You must be afraid of science. And, I know you don’t like facts.

            I will answer your question, though. Just like all winters in Iowa, it is cold outside. I haven’t played since the first week of December but it would be crazy for me to think I would get the opportunity to do so. It’s an anamoly to get to hit the links in the middle of winter up here. So, I play basketball and hit the weight room hard, instead. And, I’m taking advantage of the countless other opportunities living in the wealthiest city in the nation affords.

          • January 30, 2014 at 5:35 pm
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            And you just can’t keep from being a Progressive troll Planet from another Planet. Just like all winters, it is cold in Iowa???? Doesn’t that go against your climate change philosophy? It is always cold in Iowa in the wintertime because it is winter. Good luck playing golf around the end of April up there when the permafrost finally melts. I will be thinking of you when I tee it up in 60 degree weather here. I hope you will be able to attend the Champions Tour event next year that you skipped in 2013 because you had to run. They do produce good money for charities for your area.

          • January 31, 2014 at 11:08 am
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            You’ve already told us about how you think of us when you play golf, Agent.

        • January 30, 2014 at 6:06 pm
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          Only one thing for sure Cap, change is inevitable. It happens because it does. Science can take their best guess as to why, but that is all it is.

          dont f with mother nature. Dont want to piss her off.

  • January 27, 2014 at 6:21 pm
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    I don’t necessarily think that telling people that they’re going to develop an alternative without presenting a solution is really the course that anyone should be following. While people are getting strung along on “what we’re *going* to do” the fact still remains that there are people out here whose lifestyles are not in sync with what the ACA covers and thus makes it a burden for people to have to pay for those sorts of provisions. I think for me and for many others living their lives along religious or biblical principles, medical bill sharing with others of a like-minded faith is a much better alternative.

    • January 28, 2014 at 9:23 am
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      • January 28, 2014 at 11:08 am
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        Telling me what I have to buy and forcing me to buy things like maternity is against what the founding fathers had in mind.

        • January 28, 2014 at 11:35 am
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          So FFA, are you going to be glued to your TV tonight to listen to the latest series of lies/promises and threats to use the pen to govern? Me, I will be watching a Netflix movie “Captain Phillips” which is supposed to be very good.

          I saw an article this morning on the Nielson ratings of State of the Union speeches. In Obama’s first year (09), everyone watched since he was new and to get an idea where he would be coming from. Ratings have steadily declined each year since then. This year may be the lowest on record. A new poll has him with a 37% approval rating. Wow, what a roaring success story. Planet and Boogereater will be in rapture.

          • January 28, 2014 at 12:08 pm
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            Not likely. Might just watch the Big Bang reruns instead. Saw most of them at least twice. But, I have been listening to OfnBamas lies for years. So, I’ll go with the road least traveled and watch reruns instead of a bunch of lies – you know – same old same old.

            Still 37%? Sounds high to me. Telling my clients to up their Auto Med Pays and Home Med PAys. Its Obamas fault. Plucking the Dam Democrat nerve.

          • January 28, 2014 at 12:16 pm
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            FFA, I saw an intersting political cartoon this morning on Town Hall. It showed Obama on the podium next to a giant onion smelling to high heaven. The title was State of the Onion and the tears were flowing down his face.

            It is a good thing we have something else to watch. Some people only get the main stream networks and cannot escape the lies and then the leftist commentators who try to paint this with a happy face.

          • January 28, 2014 at 2:22 pm
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            Agent,

            Speaking of ratings, are you painting your Rascal Scooter orange in honor of the 35th anniversary of The Dukes of Hazard? I bet you’ll have a confederate flag and a big ‘ole 01 somewhere on that thing and even the horn so you can tell people to get out of your way at Tea Party Rallies.

          • January 28, 2014 at 2:36 pm
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            Um, txmouthbreatherboogereatertx, don’t be hatin’ on the Dukes of Hazard. Well, the tv series at least. You can slam the movie all you want.

          • January 28, 2014 at 2:59 pm
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            KY jw,

            Actually was a huge fan of them there good ‘ole boys growing up. I guess it was my introduction to the deep south. But my how times have changed. I evolved and well, Hazard County still looks the same in most cases. Couldn’t believe they tried to make a movie, but I guess that’s why they had to throw Jessica Simpson in there for the scenery.

          • January 29, 2014 at 8:58 am
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            Yeah, including JS in the movie wasn’t for her acting skills.

        • January 28, 2014 at 1:38 pm
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          Those opposing the bill insist that an individual mandate has never been done and the framers would simply not permit such an encroachment on liberty and freedom.

          Some spectacular historical reporting by Professor Einer Elhauge of Harvard Law School in the New Republic thoroughly rebut the argument. He has found three mandate equivalents passed into law by the early Congresses—in which a significant number of founders served—and reports that these bills were signed into law by none other than Presidents George Washington and John Adams. As Founders go, one might consider them pretty senior in the hierarchy. Their acts can probably be relied upon to give us a reasonable idea what the Founders intended to be the scope of congressional and governmental power.

          Amazingly, the examples of individual mandates passed by the founders are so directly applicable that the claim that original intent precludes affirming the heath care act should become almost laughable:

          In 1790, a Congress including 20 Founders passed a law requiring that ship owners buy medical insurance for their seamen. Washington signed it into law.
          In 1792, another law signed by Washington required that all able-bodied men buy a firearm. (So much for the argument that Congress can’t force us to participate in commerce.)
          And in 1798, a Congress with five framers passed a law requiring that all seamen buy hospital insurance for themselves. Adams signed this legislation.

          In aggregate, these laws show that the Founders and the Congress of the time were willing to force all of us to participate in a particular act of commerce and were comfortable requiring both the owner of a business and the individual employee to buy insurance in order to assure that health costs would be covered at a societal level. That is a pretty complete rebuttal to all the claims being made by the originalists as they relate to the health care act.

          • January 28, 2014 at 1:42 pm
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            Sorry – those opposing the LAW. It’s no longer a bill. Unless you are talking about the a-’bil’-ity of all Amercians being able to seek coverage. It didn’t go far enough, we should have at least a public option, but Obama paraded out this conservative approach to fixing healthcare and as much as I think it falls incredibly short, it is a step in the right direction.

          • January 28, 2014 at 2:57 pm
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            So you have been doing research for two weeks to come up with this drivel? As Ron is fond of saying, prove your sources. I would like to see what site you got this off of. By the way, you called Obamacare a bill when you started blathering away. Gee, I didn’t know that the framers were that advanced back then to require Health Insurance for anyone.

          • January 28, 2014 at 3:30 pm
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            Gee, there are alot of things you don’t know Agent.

            You remind us of the fact every time you post something.

          • January 28, 2014 at 4:26 pm
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            How about Forbes for one?
            http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/01/17/congress-passes-socialized-medicine-and-madates-health-insurance-in-1798/

            How about Politifact?
            http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2012/jan/13/einer-elhauge/harvard-law-professor-says-early-congress-mandated/

            Or, why don’t you just look up the laws these Presidents signed after these Congressional founding fathers passed the bills and fact check yourself, Agent? Pretty tough to dispute facts and things that ACTUALLY happened.

            By the way, this is old news. Like, founding father time old news. I was telling you this years ago on IJ but it wasn’t fitting your narrative so you must have ignored it. Typical Drudge/Fox Newsian response. And, I am saying that honestly. I tried searching these laws being passed with those resources and I cannot find them mentioning it anywhere. Maybe you can set me straight with some links to those sources. But, I’m guessing Fox and Drudge didn’t want their audience to know these facts.

          • January 29, 2014 at 10:47 am
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            Captain – when Agent hears something that doesn’t fit his mantra (Keynes bad, Friedman good), he plugs his ears and says “La, la, la, la, la. I can’t hear you.” real loud. Then it’s like it never happened and can’t be true. It works for him.

  • January 27, 2014 at 11:43 pm
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    FFA said “The way obama has our air force running recon for AlQuaida, she may appreciate that.”

    Hey, he said he was going to pull out of Iraq. He just did it 4 years later than he said he would and:
    * He has more dead soldiers on his hands than Bush, but who is counting.
    * He had no contingency plan in the event the enemy had a resurgence. They did and are now in control of several parts of the country.
    *Now many of those that DIED fighting fought only to let Obama hand it back to terrorists.
    * So, what does he do today? Agrees to sell 26 Apache helicopters to Iraq to defend themselves. What happens to those when the terrorists take back the entire government. Probably use them on us when we have to go back.
    He is so bad his generals (so of the best military officers is the world) are resigning.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/obamas-war-on-american-generals/

    • January 28, 2014 at 12:09 pm
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      And who believed him?

      • January 28, 2014 at 2:52 pm
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        So FFA, I guess politics is rough all over. Here in Texas, we have the far left Wendy Davis thinking she can beat Abbott for Governor. She made her first big boo boo saying he hadn’t walked a mile in her shoes. Abbott has been a paraplegic for 30 years after an accident. Now, she says he has been faking his paralysis to gain sympathy. I saw a picture of her Harvard graduation and she resembles Bernadine Dorne a lot and no, she is not a natural blonde. Where do people like this come from?

        • January 28, 2014 at 3:16 pm
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          They come from Texas

          • January 28, 2014 at 3:30 pm
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            She was out in the trailer trash area and has been thoroughly radicalized in leftist politics. A stint at Harvard completed the process after she abandoned her kids and left the unfortunate second husband to pay the bills, take care of the kids and her education. She left him after his last payment on the education. What a wonderful person!

          • January 28, 2014 at 3:31 pm
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            Oh, SNAP! As Captain would say.

          • January 28, 2014 at 3:38 pm
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            Yeah, Agent, she’s a terrible parent according to Bristol Palin and Rush Limbaugh, both pillars of the parental community! LOL!!!

          • January 28, 2014 at 4:12 pm
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            With a personal history like that, who would vote for her?? Even obamanites cant be that forgiving…

          • January 28, 2014 at 4:38 pm
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            FFA – I guess if you take everything Agent, Bristol Palin, and Rush Lindbaugh say at face value – then no even we can’t be that forgiving.

            But did you ever stop to think there may be two sides to the story?

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:38 pm
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            Maybe. I cant concern myself with what goes on in TX.
            Focusing on NE Iowa currently. I like the fact Des Moines is growing community. But I dont want to be too close to any big town. I would like about 2000 sq feet ranch with a basement and 5 acres. My wife put down the law “I want a creek on the property”.

            Checking into Tax Rates ect…. Found a house for sale along the lines I just laid out minus the creek. I just may be able to sell my little 1200 sq ft house on a 50 x 150 lot for more then I would pay for the one I have on my radar…

      • January 29, 2014 at 12:16 pm
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        FFA, I saw a good one this morning which explains a lot about those on the left. Have you ever wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the right and Liberals are called the left?

        Ecclesiastes 10:2 – The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Thus saith the Lord, Amen

        Spelling Lesson – The last four letters in American ….I can
        The last four letters in Republican …..I can
        The last four letters in Democrats —-Rats

        Remember, November is to be set aside as rodent removal month.

      • January 29, 2014 at 3:01 pm
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        FFA, the loudest and longest applause at the State of the Union was for the soldier who was severely wounded and has had a difficult road to recovery since. He and many others like him are the reason we are a free country. The leftists on this site like Boogereater, Libby, Planet should thank him for the freedom of speech even if they are ungrateful for soldiers making the supreme sacrifice. Sargeant and I are also veterans from the Viet Nam era and we did the same service although many on the left like the traiterous Hanoi Jane Fonda liked to hob nob with the Commies and hate America.

        • January 29, 2014 at 3:32 pm
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          I was bouncing between my Gr Children and my siblings during the show. So, I didnt get much out of it.
          That being the Hi Lite, what were his other talking points?
          What were his comments about ofnbama Care? Probably trot out someone it helped with talking about how bad things are on Main St USA?

          My grandson asked me if he wanted all white people to be slaves…. That is two of my gr children that have asked me that.

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:41 pm
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            FFA, He had about two sentences on Obamacare and no, he didn’t apologize to the American People for screwing up Healthcare. Frank Luntz did a graph of Republicans & Democrats and the line dropped like a rock with both groups listening. Unlike Libby and others on this blog, the real people out there hate it and showed on this test.

        • January 29, 2014 at 3:39 pm
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          Agent – if you want to talk about the ultimate sacrifice that would be my Father, who died defending this country and his family who no longer has a Dad. You weren’t even in country during Vietnam, so what do you know about sacrifice? My father was three times the soldier you ever dreamt of being. And I am anything but ungrateful for his or anybody elses service. Keep your filthy mouth shut on this subject.

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:45 pm
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            Don’t even try to silence me Libby or insult mine or Sargeant’s service. You have no idea what you are talking about. It is too bad you lost your father. It is also too bad you have a filthy mouth and downgrade the military. How many times did you apologize to Sargeant about two years ago for your insults?

          • January 29, 2014 at 4:57 pm
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            I’ll insult you the way you insult me. I’d rather have the filth that comes out of my mouth than the shit that comes out of yours. Yes. I said shit. So what?

            And I DARE you to find ONE time I have EVER downgraded the military? So don’t go spouting your “Vietnam Era” service to me. You were stateside for the few years you served. I spent more time on a military base overseas than you did.

          • January 30, 2014 at 7:50 am
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            Agent, in the year I’ve been lurking around the IJ, I haven’t seen any derogatory remarks about the military or veterans from Libby. I think you stepped over the line this time.

          • January 30, 2014 at 5:23 pm
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            Jw, they have been at it for some time now… People have tried to bait me into personal arguments, name call and such. I just dont see the point. Want to debate? Fine. We can do it with out the insults. That s just me and my opinion.

          • January 31, 2014 at 11:14 am
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            KY & FFA – I know I can be abrasive, sarcastic, and foul-mouthed. I have never denied it and do not apologize for it.

            But, I have NEVER made any negative comments about the military. I was an Army brat my entire life. My father died for this country. I am proud to have been his daughter and honor his, and all soldier’s, service.

            Agent says these things to get a rise out of me and, by golly, it works every time.

          • January 31, 2014 at 11:15 am
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            And I can’t believe 8 people actually thumbed down my post about my father’s service. All of you should be ashamed to call yourself Americans.

        • January 29, 2014 at 3:44 pm
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          Agent, that will always be the loudest applause because it’s scripted. Again all the more reason to not use the military as a pawn for political or profit gain. We aren’t under attack on a daily basis and the credo that we fight them away so we don’t fight them at home is a farce. Those are exactly the offensive wars I speak of. Vietnam was a travesty and I still can not fathom how fast a life can be ruined when you are graduating high school on Friday and in the jungle in a matter of weeks, that war should have never involved the US nor should Iraq, Afghanistan, and let’s hope not Iran. We could have held the gun to the Saudis and followed the money trail that was left like bread crumbs. This isn’t hind sight, this was foresight. If we went after Bin Ladin from the get go, and not preoccupied ourselves with Iraq, we probably would have been in and out with a lot less collateral damage. But again, I guess I’m just using history and not keeping it to yes/no.

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:49 pm
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            Booger, no one asked to be sent to Vietnam. Your hero, LBJ invented the Gulf of Tonkin incident which escalated the war and sent up to 400,000 brave young men over there and for what? I think we lost around 47,000 in that fiasco. Soldiers go where they are told to go. When they get back, they should be shown respect, not hate from the likes of you. Yes, Vietnam veterans were spat upon, called baby killers and every other vile name in the book by people you agree with.

          • January 29, 2014 at 4:55 pm
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            Absolutely they should be shown respect but the republicunts doesn’t own the military, they own the contractors that make profit off war. Soldiers shouldn’t be told where to go because they should be fighting in these wars to begin with. They have nothing to do with our interested or our responsibility. Talk about needing to wane the needy of ‘Murrica’s jugs. We cater to the foreign aid because we’ve jumped at every chance to get into war that we could. You have to stop looking back at history all the time. But then again, Nixon wasn’t the best leader we had during that crisis either. Too busy making the Nixon Tapes and Watergate, too busy causing massive inflation by removing us from the gold standard. Those were all responsible actions though right?

          • January 29, 2014 at 5:21 pm
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            And who is scripting that?

          • January 29, 2014 at 5:23 pm
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            Libby, you are a bitch of the first order. You don’t know where I served or Sargeant for that matter. I spent two years unaccompanied from my wife and I saw all the body bags of our fallen heros. While you were admiring Hanoi Jane, Sargeant and I were in harms way. We were the lucky ones to return to what we called the real world.

          • January 30, 2014 at 2:51 pm
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            Kyjw, you haven’t been lurking on the IJ long enough on the Libby comments about Sargeant. A couple of years ago, she besmirched and disrespected him repeatedly and in the end had to apologize. She is only slightly less civil now and she has started again. We expect this from boogereater since he is an OWS troll and we can handle him. Need help with OWS? Occupy Wall Street thugs who are totally anti America.

          • January 31, 2014 at 11:18 am
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            Agent – I may be a bitch, but I tell the truth. You were never in Vietnam and I know this because you posted it.

            You may have seen body bags, but I had friends and classmates lose their fathers on a regular basis. I was “unaccompanied” from my father and my mother, her husband, for one tour in Korea and two in Vietnam. Years at a time.

            Don’t tell me about sacrifice and fear. I lived it my entire childhood not knowing where my dad was, how he was doing, or whether I would ever see him again.

    • January 29, 2014 at 12:03 pm
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      So Sargeant, Planet has been doing some research on government mandates on Healthcare and finally found one going back 224 years to the early days of the Republic on Congress voting to make shipowners provide for medicine etc for their seamen. I wonder if they forced the seamen to have maternity benefits, birth control or abortion coverage if they didn’t want it. He had to dig real deep to find this one. This is a typical post from Planet who is truly from a different Planet. Oh snap! Ding, ding, ding.

  • January 28, 2014 at 12:14 pm
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    Just got Email from Humana informing us that a rate hike is coming in April…. Already. 4 Months into the ACA and here come the hikes.

    • January 28, 2014 at 12:18 pm
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      I saw one similar when I saw the Aetna article. This spring will be a bumpy ride for sure. What will happen when the Group rates come out and how many of their policies will be cancelled for not conforming to the Messiah Law?

    • January 28, 2014 at 4:33 pm
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      Libby, why am I not surprised you would like Wendy Davis? The last time I checked, Bristol Palin or Rush Limbaugh was not running for governor of a state with the 14th largest economy in the entire world. My guess is she will get a much lower percent of the vote than Bill White who was swamped by a 2-1 margin against Perry. Even the women in this state don’t like or trust her sorry butt. She really has nothing to run on so she just keeps screaming and making up things to run down an honorable man.

      • January 28, 2014 at 4:44 pm
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        First of all, what would make you say I like her? I know nothing about her. But I do know something about Bristol Palin and her ability to mother. Enough said.

        Second, you can not speak for all the women in Texas. She did have a REPUBLICAN woman, Betty Haskins, come to her defense saying:

        “If this involved a man running for office, none of this would ever come up,” Haskins told the Star-Telegram. “It’s so sad. Every time I ran, somebody said I needed to be home with my kids. Nobody ever talks about men being responsible parents.”

        Third – Hher Republican opponent is clearly the one launching a smear campaign to run down an honorable woman. Not vice-versa.

        • January 29, 2014 at 6:17 pm
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          Libby, you say you know nothing about Wendy Davis, but you seem to know everything about every other subject on this blog. You are falling down on the job about Davis. She is as vile as they come.

          • January 31, 2014 at 11:20 am
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            I could care less about Texas politics Agent. Only when you bring it up and I have to fact check you do I give two shits.

  • January 28, 2014 at 12:33 pm
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    Aetna & Human both in IL on exchange. Blue Cross should be following and Land of Lincoln will hold out as long as possible, but we all know its coming. Thought rates jumped in 09-10-11??? Just how bad are things going to get before this ass hole realizes he screwed everyone with his lies?

    • January 28, 2014 at 1:03 pm
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      Ted Cruz has asked him to apologize tonight to the American People for getting 6 million policies cancelled. Do you think this guy will apologize for his agenda and the mammoth lies he told the people? A Progressive Narcissist will not apologize for anything since he still thinks he was right. This whole administration is built on lies and they are sticking to their story. Remember when the minions were backing Slick Willy when he said he didn’t have sex with Monica? Oops! The blue dress showed up and they had egg all over their face.

      • January 28, 2014 at 1:14 pm
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        I dont think it was egg. And I dont think it was on their face. Hers maybe. Not theirs.

        • January 28, 2014 at 2:46 pm
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          Well FFA, I am glad some of it was on the blue dress or he would never have been impeached. She must have been good at her job. I wonder whatever happened to Ms Lewinsky. The last I heard of her, she was trying to make designer purses big enough to hold a dress.

      • January 28, 2014 at 3:21 pm
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        Why would a Canadian Senator ask for an apology eh?

        • January 28, 2014 at 3:27 pm
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          Born in Canada to an American. Unknown to him, he had dual citizenship which he has since renounced. He is certainly more American than you are boogereater.

          • January 29, 2014 at 9:10 am
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            Ok, I have to say this because I’m slightly appalled that Cruz didn’t know he had dual citizenship. I can remember learning that anyone born in a foreign country to American parent(s) has dual citizenship IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SOCIAL STUDIES.

            How on earth can anyone trust or like someone who didn’t learn that basic lesson in school? I attended a below average school system and I learned this basic fact. Not knowing he was a dual citizen by birth is inexcusable.

          • January 29, 2014 at 10:51 am
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            I thought the same thing, KY. How could he not know? Either he’s a liar or just plain stupid. Either way, not POTUS material.

          • January 29, 2014 at 2:37 pm
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            Tom Arnold could work but I think only if he was willing to pack on the pounds he had while married to Rosanne. It’s gotta be natural fat and not just a fat suit.

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm
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            He could hook up a lipo suction machine from her and have it pumped right into him.

            how about Chris Christy???? He may have to lose a pound or two…

            Or Rosanne herself.

          • January 29, 2014 at 4:47 pm
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            You know what I was just thinking FFA, you know who would make a great Chris Christie, is Steve Steve Schirripa, not sure if you were a Sopranos fan at all. Look the guy up and tell me what you think.

        • January 28, 2014 at 4:08 pm
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          Cause hes on Crack…. No wait, that the mayor of Toronto.

          • January 28, 2014 at 4:28 pm
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            Man I wish Chris Farley were still alive. He would have made an awesome Mayor Rob Ford on SNL or any movie.

          • January 29, 2014 at 2:01 pm
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            TX, on that point, I have to agree 100%… Now, maybe Tom Arnold?

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:52 pm
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            Didn’t Farley die of a drug overdose? That fits with the mayor, doesn’t it?

          • January 29, 2014 at 4:48 pm
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            Agent – Yes. Just like Jim Belushi did… Too much coke for him.

  • January 28, 2014 at 3:43 pm
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    Ok, thanks for the info. I didn’t remember when we occupied Alberta like we did Panama which enabled some people to become “murricans that like to bomb bomb bomb Iran

    • January 28, 2014 at 4:24 pm
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      Tx booger, you so wrapped on history with no focus on the future.

      Where do you see this guy leading us? Prosperity? The poor house?

      Just did my quaterly tax for feds breaking out to 22.85% of payroll and that dont include the state. So this guy can send my and my employees hard earned wages to Syria & Egypt? Hell with feeding our families, Al quida & Egypt are more entitled to our money then we are? More important to him? Why does he get a pass on dodging his fair share of Property Taxes in IL?

      Forget history for a minute and tell us all where you see this guy leading us.

      • January 28, 2014 at 4:49 pm
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        As a leader and not a follower, I see where this guy would like to takes us but can’t because of the wannabee 1% which makes up a hefty majority of the right. Taxes pay for the military that you covet so much, it keeps getting bigger. The tax code is rigged so that business owners and corporations subsidize their personal lives in to their businesses thus creating a large deficit. There is no more middle class which should be the class with all the power. Corporations are holding on to their money because they do not want to see this man be President as they play follow the leader. This is why joining fraternities is bad, because you lose your ability to reason on an individual basis as well as under qualified drones obtain positions of power based on nepotism rather than their own credentials. Over time, the power escalates upward as fascism prevails for this is not a socialist movement here. As most conservatives like to rub one out to the ideology of dead presidents, you would think they would take the advice of George Washington and remain isolationists. We bombed the snot out of Germany and Japan, this allowed for the rebuild of both nations. Look at where they are in relation to where were are now. Darth Reagan decided to take us in a different direction. Rocky IV was a great movie go USA beat USSR! We still haven’t cured cancer yet. We don’t want to either because there is a lot of money to be made selling for Big Pharma. These are the expectations the US would have. You know, the nation that flew to the moon first. Fly to Japan and it’s like flying into the future. Fly back to the States and you are in a time machine going backward. Math and Science man, schooling this is the focus and that is what will get us back to where we belong.

        • January 28, 2014 at 5:09 pm
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          There you go on history again… Playing the blame game.
          The tax code is broke. Do you see him fixing it?

          Do you see Obama Care working?

          Do you see the Economy Rebounding?

          Do you see this guy bringing back the jobs that left the country?

          Do you see the US continuing to support AlQuida fighters in Syria?

          Do you see him bringing home the troops?

          Do you think we are better off with him or with out him?

          Do you view him to be an honest man?

          no need for a lomng drawn out explanation. A simple yer or no using websters dictionary to define the words.

          • January 28, 2014 at 5:35 pm
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            FFA, good one. Boogereater couln’t reply to that salvo so he just keeps on trolling for the left who have no ideas to recover the economy and their mantra is to continue to blame Bush 5 years later.

          • January 28, 2014 at 5:45 pm
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            Ok, i get it now, just like a 2 year old one of their favorite words is NO!. Time to go to bed..NO!, eat your carrots..NO! Most conservatives have dinosaur sized brains due to a lack of evolution so I understand and maybe we can turn this into a disability and get you a rascal scooter too.

            Obama Care just started – I don’t think the Wright Brothers were successful on their first attempt at flight. Apple sure has hell wasn’t successful right from the get go – Party of NO

            Economy would rebound with people going back to work that are unemployed, and those that lost their jobs and took new jobs but with a massive pay cut all to avoid unemployment. The money is there, again look at any 10K report. A business leader would want to get the economy going and not adhere to a party agenda. A follower would do just the opposite so they could have a locker next to their man crush at the country club.

            As far as jobs that left the country, outside of the cost of production, we will not see them return to the numbers we had simplpy because we do not have the skilled worked for we used to have. Again, math and science will be required in order to achieve those goals. Certain people don’t want to pull their weight in that category. Less US college students are studying the STEM majors and our current workforce has largely worked in a service based economy. With the retirement of the Baby Boomers we do not have enough skilled labor and knowlege based candidates to replace what we will lose. As far as the business community, we have used the MBA as the measure of academic success, one that which college students are getting their MBA immediately after obtaining their under grad degree. An MBA is an executive level degree designed for the individual that has worked their way up the ladder and has significant management experience. In this ADD world we live in now, these people do not have the true and proven leadership abililty that is required to direct the major sectors of our economy.

            As far as bringing home the troops, don’t see it happening. We went into these wars with out a plan, and everything since has been ad libbed. We will have troops there like we do all over the rest of the world forever.

            Are we better with him or without him? We are at a point where we have to break even. Any plan he puts together is shot down before it even has a chance. Even if it’s a plan that was taken from the Republicans. As is any thing financial, negatives always compound harder and faster than the positives do. It can take you an hour to climb to the top of a tree but it only takes seconds to fall to the ground. You can dust yourself off and start the climb back up, but now it will take you 2 hours to climb to the top.

            I absolutely see him as an honest man. As long as any one is looking out for the poor and the middle class they are an honest person. Just as anyone that is looking to give people a chance at being rich. Anyone only looking out for the net profits of the rich and the old money in this country is a dishonest person.

          • January 29, 2014 at 10:57 am
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            Hey FFA, You may have noticed that Boogereater views Obama as “absolutely an honest man”. Is this a statement of a drunk on Koolaid true believer or what? Obama is the biggest fraud that has ever been in office and has told the American people hundreds of whoppers in the past 5 years. The biggest have been on Obamacare and are well documented. Frank Luntz dissected his speech last night and had the graph of Republicans & Democrats. When he made his last brief pronouncement about Healthcare, the graph plunged to the bottom on Republicans & Democrats. That is a sure sign the people don’t believe him anymore on anything. He is a lame duck now and threatens to use the pen to implement his agenda. That is dangerous territory and I hope he does something to bring on Impeachment soon.

          • January 29, 2014 at 10:59 am
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            Agent,

            Does Texico acknowledge your Civil Union with your Ronald Reagan blow up doll?

          • January 29, 2014 at 11:55 am
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            TX, correct me if I am wrong, I have a hard time reading through anything long winded and pointless dribble when I am looking for a one word answer – You would say no to everything I posted except for the Honest Man part even though Millions of People lost their Health Coverage that they like and lost their Doctors even though he stated in the most public forum he could be in that would not be the case?

            I will respect your opinion with out resorting to calling you names and being immature about it. I just need a little clarity.

          • January 29, 2014 at 11:57 am
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            Which is it, Agent? Lame Duck or dangerous with the pen. He can’t be both.

          • January 29, 2014 at 12:04 pm
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            FFA – I don’t think he can be clearer than that. He addressed everyone of your points in his response. Try a little harder to get through reading it and then respond.

          • January 29, 2014 at 12:45 pm
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            Well Libby, she starts out with insults. Makes him lose credibility with me right from get go.
            There is no Yes or no on the tax code question, the obama care question, the economy question, the jobs question, the Syria question, he answers the Troops question with a no, the better off question is not answered with a yes or no and she does answer the Honest question. With all due respect, I disagree with that answer.

            I find it difficult to read meaning into things when it is laced with insults and a screw you attitude because you don’t agree with me tone. I am a bottom line kind of guy that dont want / need the puff and fluff.

          • January 29, 2014 at 1:15 pm
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            Some questions are not cut and dried, black and white, yes or no.

          • January 29, 2014 at 1:20 pm
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            Libby, I was looking for his opinion. She obviously has one. I just want her to voice it without all the puff and fluff. He was very direct on the honesty question. She can be if he wanted to be on the rest of the questions.

          • January 29, 2014 at 4:48 pm
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            FFA, slightly off subject, but I saw a headline about the Northwestern University football players wanting to form a union????? What is that all about? Are they wanting to strike the coach if they get injured playing while on full scholarship? Is he working them too hard in practice and they need more breaks? What do you know about this?

          • January 29, 2014 at 4:51 pm
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            Agent, they are trying to for a Union for College Athletes. I can understand the injury issue, but to me anyways, looking like they are trying for a pay check. Of course, the NFLPA is involved.

        • January 29, 2014 at 12:51 pm
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          Tx says “The tax code is rigged so that business owners and corporations subsidize their personal live”.

          No they dont. I just met with my tax guy last night. My experience, you could not be further from the truth. My experience… The govt on all levels just screws everyone they can. Business owner (1099). Employee (W2)… tax code screws us all.
          Why? So he can send money to Syria, Egypt, Africa… Screw the home land. We must send our tax dollars that you and I pay to sworn enemies of the USA. Take care of the children he says. True as long as they are not US citizens.

          So, start with you insults… Let the games begin!

          • January 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm
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            Not talking about the small business man, FFA. You guys ae in the same boat as the rest of us. He’s talking big business. The kind that makes up the 1% and runs this country. I know you think they are your friends and you want to be just like them, but trust me, they aren’t and you don’t. You’re a straight shooter and not a crooked thief.

          • January 29, 2014 at 1:24 pm
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            Speaking of thief’s, things heated on the biggest one I know last night… I can hear him now – Send Lawyers guns and Money, Dad get me out of this. Oh, wait. You cant I stole it all. Just a matter of time……

          • January 29, 2014 at 1:25 pm
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            Your car is paid through your business, mine is paid though my NET income. You probably deduct a percentage of your home as business related usage, because that’s where you make 1 phone call a year to your discount double check Bears fans. Have a mortgage? Let’s included the mortgage interest deduction, don’t like birth control, bang out some kids, we’ll give you tax credits. When you go to a conference for a week that really only includes 2 days of meetings, the entire expense load “magically” becomes a business expense for the entire week. Suddenly you are learning about insurance while getting a hummer on space mountain. Have season tickets to anything to “massage” some clients? Lets take that off your tax liability. Don’t get upset when you have to write a check because you owe more than you planned for. You were living the life through your business and sounds like you may have been using it as an ATM. (ATM also means something else to Agent) It’s the whole scam that is being self employed. Include as much of your personal life in your business to write off as expenses, show as little income as possible, then bitch about the government and taxes. The more income that you make and assets you have, the more share you need to pay for the military to protect your wealth. That’s what these soldiers that come from meager beginnings are really fighting for. The wealthy soldiers aren’t fighting for you, they live on a base in Germany or Japan. Your soldiers are in skyscrapers and wear suits. You should be proud to pay your taxes, it means you have a net worth value worth fighting for.

          • January 29, 2014 at 2:18 pm
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            “Your car is paid through your business”
            No its not. I drive an 01 Caravan. My Wife, an 02 Caravan.

            You probably deduct a percentage of your home as business related usage, because that’s where you make 1 phone call a year to your discount double check Bears fans.
            No, I dont.

            Have a mortgage? Let’s included the mortgage interest deduction,
            Everyone gets that.

            don’t like birth control,
            I paid for mine. I am pst making babies. I support three of my gr Children full time and the 4th 4 days a week. No Tax Break for me either.

            When you go to a conference for a week that really only includes 2 days of meetings, the entire expense load “magically” becomes a business expense for the entire week.
            Land on my 1099.

            Suddenly you are learning about insurance while getting a hummer on space mountain.
            I dont cheat on my wife. I am not Bill Clinton.

            Have season tickets to anything to “massage” some clients? Lets take that off your tax liability.
            No got that. dont even go to pro games any more.

            Don’t get upset when you have to write a check because you owe more than you planned for.
            I get upset at every penny especially since he sends it to our sworn enemies when we have hungry children on the home land. .

            You were living the life through your business and sounds like you may have been using it as an ATM. (ATM also means something else to Agent)
            I’m self employed because I have the confidence in my ability to get the job done.

            Include as much of your personal life in your business to write off as expenses, show as little income as possible, then bitch about the government and taxes.
            Biz is Biz. Home is home. I dont take my work home.

            The more income that you make and assets you have, the more share you need to pay for the military to protect your wealth. That’s what these soldiers that come from meager beginnings are really fighting for. The wealthy soldiers aren’t fighting for you, they live on a base in Germany or Japan. Your soldiers are in skyscrapers and wear suits. You should be proud to pay your taxes, it means you have a net worth value worth fighting for.
            I dont even know how to respond to that rant. It does bug the crap out of me the Air Force is supporting Al Quida.

            And you still cant answer a direct question with a simple yes or no. So, ramble on! Blame everything on the corps that employ people and write pay checks… Shame on them people for living the American Dream. We should just take everything from them…. Send it to the Mid east. After all they are entitled.

          • January 29, 2014 at 3:14 pm
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            FFA, it is just all this War on Success that Booger & Libby and others like from their leader. Where would we be without entrepreneurs like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and others who had an idea, worked their butts off, made a success, employed hundreds of thousands of employees who make excellent salaries with benefits? Almost all the major inventions of the past two hundred years emanated from America and yes they created Billionaires. So what, the benefit of having these dreamers have made the country the envy of the world. By the way, I would bet my quarterly taxes are more than the tax bill of Libby & Booger combined for a year.

          • January 29, 2014 at 5:31 pm
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            FFA, on the Northwestern issue, the school is located close to Chicago, isn’t it? Perhaps they saw the settlement with the NFL on concussions of pro players and figured they could get some of that action. One concussion may equal $500,000, the second could be $1million. Could set them up for life until they have to pay the tax bill.

          • January 29, 2014 at 5:46 pm
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            Its the union butting into armature sports. Guess a scholarship at a major university isnt enough.

            Whats next – Olympic athletes want to get paid??? The NHL folks need to stay home. My friends son was on the US National Team and new that the dance is here, he is at home….

          • January 29, 2014 at 6:03 pm
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            Agent,

            It’s not called a war on success, it’s called a war on the facsists that take away the battle for success. Some of us had the displeasure of working for large hedge funds like AIG, spending countless hours traveling on the road weeks out of every month, relocating numerous times in various regions of the country. They capitalized their gains and ultimately socialized their losses with an enormous bail out. All because they were allowed to buy up systematically important risks that would have surely put us into depression if we didn’t bail them out. They have yet to accept responsibility for facilitating the crash of ’08 by providing insurance products to protect against ridiculous gambles. But it’s fun being a P&C agent, doing the level of work I did when I was 22-25, making at best a 1/3 of the base salary that I used to make, not including the production bonus that I received along with my staff. At least I have time to make numerous posts daily. It’s just as fun being over qualifed, over productive, over experienced, and over educated for most jobs that you apply for, knowing that the person that you are interviewed by can’t hire you because you would most likely be their replacement.

          • January 31, 2014 at 11:25 am
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            Hear, hear, txmouthbreatherboogereatertx. I’ve never recovered to pre-2008 wages and doubt that I ever will.

    • January 28, 2014 at 4:38 pm
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      Hey Boogereater, take mine and FFA’s and Sargeant’s advice and get some psychiatric help. Did you just get released from an institution? If you work in this industry, I feel sorry for your employer.

      • January 28, 2014 at 4:51 pm
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        is this coming from the tallest ones at the midget convention?

      • January 29, 2014 at 5:58 pm
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        FFA, I had one of those full scholarships when I was in college. I counted myself fortunate to have one since I could never have afforded college without it. Unions have poisoned the well of our society as far back as I can remember. They must be getting desperate since they are losing membership in so many states up north. Obamacare is doing a number on their Cadillac plans as well. Can you imagine going to an exchange policy from one of those cushy plans that pays nearly everything with only a small co-pay?

        • January 30, 2014 at 3:41 pm
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          I can see the injury issue. If they are hurt during a game, they should be taken care of. But to get paid?????

          A new group of people for those jealous of success to bash on.

          • January 30, 2014 at 5:20 pm
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            There has been a movement to get college athletes paid while going to college. I guess they want to treat this as a minor league training for the pros. Unfortunately, only a small percent are ever good enough to make the NFL. The ones who aren’t smart enough to get their education end up washing cars or getting into trouble. Did you know that Curt Warner was working in a supermarket doing menial work until he caught on with the Arena league, then the Rams and finishing up with the Cardinals? Since he retired, he got a gig on TV as a football analyst.

          • January 30, 2014 at 5:29 pm
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            The Fridge busted when he washed out. He had to sell his Super Bowl ring. Then some kid saw it on E Bay, bought it and returned it to him.

            In the mean time, his Fr in LAw gave him a job as a brick layer. Hones living for an honest days work.

            I think they should be happy playing. If they get hurt, they should be taken care of. The revenues sports generate help keep the cost of tuition down.

            If the union has their way, watch that cost go up and watch scholarships disappear. No wonder they pick IL to push their agenda. Its the 4th most unionized state in the nation.

      • January 31, 2014 at 3:46 pm
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        So Libby, you had to travel 1,500 miles to get another job making less money in PA? Is that because no other agent in the State of Colorado would put up with your mouth? With you proclaiming how wonderful you are, you should have been able to hook up with any other big agent in Colorado with no problem. Agents are always looking for people with skills. What held you back?

        • January 31, 2014 at 4:02 pm
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          For your information Agent, I was a Corporate Trainer in 2008 making 6 figures. Was laid-off due to the economy and the fact my job was not attached to revenue. I was lucky enough to find a job 9 months later making 2/3 what I was making in 2008.

          I left that job to come to Pennsylvania to marry my husband. Not exactly the same job market in rural PA as is in Denver, CO. I now make 75% of my last job, which is half my pre-2008 wage.

          And I am that good.

          • January 31, 2014 at 4:08 pm
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            And who was the pres when you were making a good living???

          • January 31, 2014 at 4:32 pm
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            Clinton.

          • January 31, 2014 at 4:42 pm
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            In 2008?

          • January 31, 2014 at 6:15 pm
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            So why didn’t you stay in Denver to make that six figure salary. Perhaps your new husband should have moved there. Did it really take 9 months to find a job with your outstanding credentials? At least you didn’t use up your 99 weeks before starting over.

          • February 4, 2014 at 8:42 am
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            I didn’t stay because my life doesn’t revolve around money. And yes, it took 9 months or don’t you remember how bad it was in August 2008? You’re an asshole.

        • January 31, 2014 at 4:05 pm
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          She stated she chased a man. Have to tip my hat to her on that front – someone still believes in a man and a woman being married. The way she sticks up for the rump rangers, who would have thunk it?

          • January 31, 2014 at 4:33 pm
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            You don’t have to speak like I’m not here, FFA. And he was the one doing all the chasing, believe me.

          • January 31, 2014 at 4:45 pm
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            Libby, I know your always here. Was pointing out that you are still a traditionalist. Otherwise, you would have moved to IL and married someone of the same gender…

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            No, I’m just heterosexual. Baby I was born that way.

  • January 29, 2014 at 11:10 am
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    Libby:
    “First of all, what would make you say I like her? I know nothing about her. But I do know something about Bristol Palin and her ability to mother. Enough said.”

    Really Libby? As opposed to who Anthony ‘The Peter Tweeter” Weiner who has a wife and at least one young daughter? Or how about Bill “I never had sex with that women- Ms. Lewinski” Clinton? Now there is a great example. Or how about Charlie ‘lease don’t censor me because I don’t pay my taxes” Rangel? A great parent

    • January 29, 2014 at 11:23 am
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      Sargeant, Libby probably thinks Wiener would have been a great mayor of NY. We know she was in rapture over Bill Clinton, the serial liar of the past. How about his “wife” who said falsely her biggest regret was Benghazi. She only regrets being caught in an obvious lie about Benghazi. These are all great parents, right? She should get Obama to appoint Chelsea to Ambassador to Libya. After all, what possible difference does it make now?

      • January 29, 2014 at 12:03 pm
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        Is that all you got, Agent? Ancient history? LOL!!!

        At least my comparison to Briston Palin & Rush Limbaugh were relevant to the conversation since they are the one’s trash talking.

        You and Sarge are like 3 year olds with your rebuttal. Wah!

        • January 29, 2014 at 3:56 pm
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          Speaking of ancient history Libby, how about that article Planet trumped up about seamen having to get health insurance 214 years ago. That is about as ancient as it gets in this counrty which had only been founded a few years before.

    • January 29, 2014 at 12:01 pm
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      Sarge, correct me if I’m wrong, but the subject wasn’t Anthony Weiner, Bill Clinton, or Charlie Rangel. The subject was Wendy Davis. As far as I know, she hasn’t tweetered her peter, had sex with Ms. Lewinski, or cheated on her taxes. So your point is what??? That you can’t read?

      • January 29, 2014 at 12:10 pm
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        Libby, you are fair game if you brought up Bristol Palin and Rush Limbaugh even though the subject was crazy Wendy, the trailer trash candidate for Governor. You bring criticism on yourself for your posts and it is well deserved. Sargeant was justified for putting you in your place.

        • January 29, 2014 at 12:26 pm
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          I brought up Palin and Lindbaugh because they are the ones posting rude comments and trash talking Wendy Davis. Not Weiner, Clinton, or Rangel. Jesus, don’t you ever READ??? And I was already firmly in my place without Sarge.

  • January 29, 2014 at 2:10 pm
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    Who do we have, here, anyway? A bunch of disgruntled, malcontent file room clerks?

    • January 29, 2014 at 2:21 pm
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      My Guess – a bunch of people that were making good money in 2008 and are now on the verge of bankruptcy making much less money then they were in 2008.

    • January 29, 2014 at 2:42 pm
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      Anyone see my red Swingline Stapler? It was just here a second ago

    • January 29, 2014 at 3:17 pm
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      You can always tell from the comments who are the disgruntled employee workers and who are the Agency/businessowners. Envy and class warfare personified from these malcontents.

      • January 29, 2014 at 3:26 pm
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        And who renewed this “Class Warfare”?

        • January 29, 2014 at 3:59 pm
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          The fearless leader who learned well from his teacher Saul Alinsky.

  • January 29, 2014 at 6:04 pm
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    Good read for all the flat landers.

    http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20140128/OPINION/140129778/why-a-progressive-income-tax-is-a-bad-idea-for-illinois

    This one seems to know what he is doing.

    • January 30, 2014 at 11:37 am
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      FFA, I hope Libby & Boogereater read this. Libby was defending Springfield the other day and said it wasn’t their fault that businesses were selling out or going out of business. How does it feel to go from 17th in business climate to 44th in a short time? I don’t know how you stay there. Come south and you will be treated much better.

      • January 30, 2014 at 1:58 pm
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        I have been talking about leaving for two years now. Wife finally on board. Working out the exit strategy…

        • January 30, 2014 at 2:39 pm
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          Perhaps you can find one of those large agents who will buy yours for the book of business and markets. In our area, a couple of large agents do most of their growing by absorbing smaller agents. Sometimes the agent being bought stays and sometimes not. The big agent figures they will lose some clients, but retain most of them.

          • January 30, 2014 at 3:08 pm
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            I have had two cold calls come in looking to purchase since mid November. I am just not ready to retire yet nor am I looking to restart. Most of my biz is scattered all over the state. So, not a big deal if I am not sitting in my main st office.

          • January 30, 2014 at 5:12 pm
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            Well, I know you are in a compressed area and have several states in close proximity. Are you licensed in Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin as well as Illinois? Me, I have all I can handle just with Texas. I have gotten a non-resident license for Arkansas and Louisiana when I had an insured move some operations over there, but it is a hassle and generally, the friendly agent that writes the business doesn’t want to split commissions. I prefer to just stay put in this state. By the way, did you hear the Senate just passed a Flood Bill and Agent license bill? Pretty soon, we may have to have a Federal License at another expense to the agency so Obama can regulate us even more. I can see him adding a few thousand bureaucrats to take this on.

          • January 30, 2014 at 5:32 pm
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            I am Indiana, Wi, Mi, IL Fla. Not IA. I am being pushed to crack the Good Ole Boys network in WI & IA by one of my carriers. WI, being a bears fan, has been a hard one to crack. But getting more and more up there as I catch the Good Ole Boys napping.

            FLA was because I have some truckers that run through that state.

      • January 30, 2014 at 2:04 pm
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        Like I have been obamanized & quinned on.

        • January 30, 2014 at 5:06 pm
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          FFA, I have good news and bad news. The good news is that Henry Waxman (D-Ca) is not running for re-election in the House. He is a pig faced leftist who has been up there 40 years. The bad news is that California will probably send someone else up there just as radical.

          • January 30, 2014 at 5:38 pm
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            Waiting for the Mid Terms….

        • January 30, 2014 at 6:06 pm
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          Wow FFA, you must be up to your eyeballs in non-resident licensing. Do you have to take tests to get licensed in those states? Louisiana is a tough one down here. They are still operating under Napoleonic law there. You never want to have an at fault accident there. They keep their lawyers number in their wallet and call them before calling the Police. A fender bender is like a major accident there. They come squalling out of their car holding their neck and it is all over for the out of state driver.

          • January 30, 2014 at 6:47 pm
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            FLA was the most difficult. Finger prints and all…

            Because of Gov Quinn and his Comp Reform, In & WI responded by screwing us like he is screwing the Non Residents. Use to pay about $150 every two years. Thanks to Quinn, Indiana is now making me get a personal NR & a Corp NR license. Wi rolls around in June, so we will see on that one. None the less, NR are now over $2300.00 for me.

          • January 31, 2014 at 10:19 am
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            FFA, I pay $100 for my combined Agency license for P&C & Life & Health. Same thing for my individual license for Texas. Those non-resident licenses cost you a lot.

          • January 31, 2014 at 11:11 am
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            Yes they do. Thanks to Quinn, not only did my non resident fees go up, but I lost $600,000 in premium volume because of him.

  • January 29, 2014 at 6:33 pm
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    From Ted Nugent FB Page:
    State of the union huh? Really? It is so very heartbreaking that so many Americans have stumbled in lockstep in the tragic dumbing down and sheeping of America to actually applaud and believe the most dishonest propaganda speech America has ever witnessed. Pick a talking point, any talking point, and the Chicago ACORN scammaster smoke and mirrors czar delivered classic deception for the low information masses. Listen carefully. He’s said it all before, and in every case, he does just the opposite and things get worse every step of the way. His beloved “middle class” and blacks have it worse now than since he took office, and the sheep just keep on grazing. Sad America. Really, really sad. And we would also like to thank the GOP for nothing. State of the union indeed. -Ted Nugent

  • January 29, 2014 at 6:43 pm
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      Ted had better watch for the storm troopers from Homeland Security on his doorstep. The Progressives don’t like this kind of criticism and will seek to silence him by whatever means necessary.

  • January 30, 2014 at 5:28 pm
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    Silence Ted Nugent? Like that guy even matters or is remotely relevant. If that’s who you are parading at the front of the conservative movement, then you are even more of a hippocrite than I thought. You rip on Hollywood for being a left leaning entertainment crowd that no one listens to anyonw and then prop up a conservative entertainer for his political voice? Simply WOW! George Carlin would be proud of the hilarity. And I mean that from a comedy perspective, nothing at all political.

    • January 30, 2014 at 5:37 pm
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      I found it amusing… I dont agree with the Boss politics, but still, same as the Nuge, love his music. Catch the Boss everytime he comes to town since the River except for his Wrigley Field show last year. His new music seems to flash back to pre Patty days… No Clarence, but a suitable replacement none the less.

      Keep hearing grumblings that Ted is coming to the local house in town. Cant wait to see him in that small house.

      I dont think anyone will silence the Nuge…. BTW, loved George Carlin. Still listen to the Class Clown.

      • January 30, 2014 at 6:08 pm
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        I liked Carlin when he was around too. He made the ridiculous funny. A brilliant mind for comedy.

    • January 31, 2014 at 8:48 am
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      Captain,

      Ted is a great American. He pooped his pants for his country.

      Now he’s all Team ‘Murrica

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp

  • January 30, 2014 at 6:45 pm
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    More from Ted today:
    Just a little reminder to the Obama America destructo derby cultists hellbent on destroying The Last Best Place. No truer words there are…

    You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.

    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong….

    • January 31, 2014 at 10:15 am
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      FFA, I had this guy figured out when he told Joe the Plumber that he had to spread the wealth around. People were not paying attention so look what we got. Then, the people elected him again. How stupid can the American People be? The quick answer is double stupid. This country should be well on the road to recovery after 5 years of this nonsense, but instead it keeps descending into the abyss of debt and eventual destruction.

      • January 31, 2014 at 10:59 am
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        You do know that Joe the Plumber is fake right?

        • January 31, 2014 at 11:10 am
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          Oh… Ok then. People can keep their coverage too, right???

          • January 31, 2014 at 11:14 am
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            Benghazi

  • January 31, 2014 at 12:08 pm
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    So Joe the plumber was a lie just like Benghazi?

    I do have a plumber insured whos name is Joe. He was The Joe The Plumber. But his name is Joe and he is a plumber.

    • January 31, 2014 at 12:36 pm
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      Yes FFA, Joe the Plumber is fake. After his little ear full from the Candidate in Chief, he told the public what was said and the campaign got on the horn in Ohio and tried to dig up some dirt on him and IRS also went after him. They don’t like people that disagree with them.

    • January 31, 2014 at 1:03 pm
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      Joe fixed clogged pipes, but in a different way. His parents were prominent republicunts in his local area. When they found out he was hiding salami in warm buns specifically not at a deli, he was sent to a camp that would change all that. I believe Michelle Batshitman or something like that has a husband that specializes in changing boys to men. For awhile he grew a goatee, wore flannel shirts like all mavericks do. Only problem was he still looked like an updated version of the Village People. The rock eaters ate this up, he was just like they were. Held on to every word he said, voted in which ever way he told them to and now they have posters of him wearing nothing but work boots and a flannel shirt. Today he lives happily in a log cabin with some guy named Bruce.

      • January 31, 2014 at 1:38 pm
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        LOL! Agent won’t get it, though. He’s a little homophobic.

        • January 31, 2014 at 3:03 pm
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          I am missing the point too.
          Joe and everyone in Begazi are gay???

          • January 31, 2014 at 3:07 pm
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            No

          • January 31, 2014 at 3:51 pm
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            Forgive me. I am a little slow today. Long drawn out appt.
            Paperwork fried my ability to reason.
            What is your point / Meaning?
            I know Village People were a bunch of rump rangers. Whats Joe have to do with it? Hes a rump ranger too?

      • January 31, 2014 at 3:49 pm
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        Congratulations boogereater. We give you the new award for lowest down blogger on IJ. Why don’t you go over and blog on MSNBC’s site and you will be right at home. Libby, if you agree with him, join him. The two of you make quite a pair.

        • January 31, 2014 at 4:04 pm
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          I do agree with him and find his commentary witty and hilarious. You’re just too dense to enjoy it.

          • January 31, 2014 at 6:08 pm
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            Libby, you like nauseating nasty language and that tells us a lot about your personality. You leftists are all alike. Can’t win an argument so you attack Conservatives and call them Homophobic. How fitting. I guess you need another dose of Bob.

          • January 31, 2014 at 6:35 pm
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            Commentary???? All he does is insult people… Call names. She cant even answer direct questions.

          • February 4, 2014 at 8:44 am
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            Yeah, well you have a stick up your ass and that tells me alot about your personality, Agent. Boring.

        • January 31, 2014 at 4:09 pm
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          Thank you, thank you.

          I’d first like Agent for being by inspiration. You are to me what Ronnie Reagan is to you. None of this could happen with out you. Because I dedicate this award to you, it will trickle down to all the other mouth breathers, booger eaters, and knuckle draggers because you all share the same mind.

          Second, I like to give a shout out to Texico. With out all your good ‘ole boy tomfoolery I don’t know where I would get my humor from.

          Now it’s time to head off to Niggerhead Ranch for some R&R.

          Hee Haw and God Bless

          • January 31, 2014 at 4:34 pm
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            The libs are the only ones with a sense of humor on here. Sad, huh?

  • January 31, 2014 at 4:41 pm
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    For all you Bush Haters out there:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO2mLIs__xo

    • January 31, 2014 at 5:00 pm
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      They’re all the same, FFA.

      • January 31, 2014 at 5:59 pm
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        I agree Libby. All Obama’s speech writers have to do is tweak the teleprompter a little each year and go on the internet to plagiarize a former President’s speech from 2007. There aren’t any new ideas coming from this Administration. They just keep on doing the same things over and over and hoping for a different result. The problem is that Socialism hasn’t ever worked in the history of the world. All they do is spend other people’s money until it is all gone and then blame someone else for the problem.

        • January 31, 2014 at 6:22 pm
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          When Bush was in office, they used to have a clown that stood behind the crowd. He would try to hold cue cards up but Dubs couldn’t read. So instead, the clown would make balloon animals, and do magic tricks. That’s why he would always say “heh heh” during his speeches.

  • January 31, 2014 at 5:11 pm
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    quinn gave the state of the state. Could have summed it up in one word. Sorry!
    Pushing this progressive tax in a state that already taxes more then most. Thats the way to do it, tax the people that create jobs. Wonder how many more are on their way out. Yahooo!!! Hes got 200 jobs coming in. Lets see = way less employment then ever. Yea, lets raise taxes. Sure, why not.

    • January 31, 2014 at 6:03 pm
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      FFA, Texas is due to have a $13 Billion surplus when they convene again and we have no state income tax. All programs are funded, but we didn’t set up an exchange and we refused to expand Medicaid to absorb all the losses that program generates. By the way, we have it going on with energy production. That is where the serious tax income comes in. All across the south part of the state to the Midland-Odessa Permian basin is doing extremely well. Now, if we can just keep those illegals from swimming the river to claim their benefits, we will do even better.



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