Billionaire’s PAC Targets 7 Republicans Who Doubt Climate Change

By Julie Bykowicz | May 27, 2014

  • May 27, 2014 at 11:02 am
    Phoenix says:
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    Hmmmmm. I wonder how much money he has “managed” into upstart “green energy” ventures.

  • May 27, 2014 at 1:14 pm
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    Save your money, man. It won’t work.

  • May 27, 2014 at 1:16 pm
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    Not sure why you say that.

  • May 27, 2014 at 1:16 pm
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    These green warriors are nothing more than socialists using climate change (which used to be warming) to push their agendas. In the 70′s they claimed that we would all be dead by now. These people are nothing more than fools and charlatans.

    • May 27, 2014 at 5:31 pm
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      Oh, time to revisit the Iraq war and weapons of mass destruction that were out to kill us. The only people hurt by WMD were the brave service men and women who gave their lives because of an false agenda from a fool and his charlatan.

      But hey…the fool and his charlatan wasn’t socialists, so I guess you’ll defend that point of view.

      • May 28, 2014 at 9:18 am
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        You are an idiot.

        • May 28, 2014 at 11:12 am
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          If 97% of all scientists can be “fooled” by “false data” circulated by Al Gore, then surely a few Congressmen can be fooled by false data provided by the POTUS himself.

          Why is one scenario idiotic and the other perfectly acceptable? You might be the idiot here, my friend.

      • May 28, 2014 at 11:32 am
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        Again resorting to your lies. Let me give you examples of lies and non-lies:

        Lies:
        If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period!
        If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan. Period!
        The raid was based on a reaction to a video.

        Non-lies:
        We went into Iraq based on intelligence gathered by Israel, United Kingdom, FRance, Germany, USA, etc. The intelligence may have been flawed or the WMD may have been moved into Syria, but nobody lied about the intelligence they had in their hands at the time. Unlike the Obama administration who knew within hours the raid on Benghazi was an organized terrorist attack and not the result of a protest about a video. What makes you so dense as to not understand this? Or are you just a bold-faced liar like your president?

        • May 28, 2014 at 11:47 am
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          Oh, to be young and stupid again…

          • May 30, 2014 at 12:33 pm
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            Thanks for reminding us Libby.

      • May 29, 2014 at 6:06 pm
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        This is beyond wrong.

        I recently posted regarding this.

        Either Saddam is a threat or he isn’t.

        When Clinton bombed him was that in error?

        If Iraq is a threat they are a threat.

        By the by: Saddam threw out our inspection teams, (both for Osama and WMD’s) and said any inspection would be considered an attack.

        Saddam needed to be removed.

        1992 Al Gore made it a priority issue saying “every” piece of intelligence showed we needed to take action in Iraq. Is he also a charlatan?

        In which book is dropping bombs on a country the moral high ground to sending in troops?

        The amount of men and women who gave their lives in the war with Iraq, is comparable to the least we have had in a full scale war. It isn’t the least. But it is certainly the lower tier.

        WMD’s were not why we went to war. Iraq broke several of 16-17 UN Sanctions. We quoted them when we went to war. You are clueless and a fool.

        This WMD lie crap, is a lie.

        Wise up.

        • May 30, 2014 at 9:47 am
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          bob! Are you going to keep posting? I missed your ability to rile the masses.

          • May 30, 2014 at 12:01 pm
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            I agree KY. Bob is good at handing Ron, Libby, 102, Boogereater, Celtica, Planet their heads when they spout off their Progressive Socialist agenda. They don’t get the best of him even though they don’t like what he says and don’t believe the evidence he shows.

          • May 30, 2014 at 6:53 pm
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            KY JW:

            I had my rejuvenation period to clear my head.

            I will continue to post, much to the joy and chagrin of many!

          • June 2, 2014 at 2:27 pm
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            Hey Bob, you follow the economy closely. How about the Commerce Dept announcing we had a 1% contraction last month in Gross Domestic Product? For an economy that has recovered from the “recession”, these numbers do not look good, do they? They will blame it on the severe weather of the winter, no doubt. I wonder how many of these “recovery” summers we will have to endure. Probably at least 8 I would imagine before this administration and its idiot lemmings are out of office.

          • June 3, 2014 at 12:50 pm
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            The economy is actually doing better than I would expect after all that Obama has done.

            .1% is not where I’m concerned.

            I want to be concerned about when and how the changes he has made will blow up.

            With what he did another housing bubble pop is almost a certainty. That is going to hurt a lot more than .1%

    • May 29, 2014 at 9:50 am
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      Ben, I loved the comment that the POTUS has made several times that the US consumes 25% of the energy in the world while having only 3% of the supply. Perhaps he should read something on proven reserves found in the past 5 years. Just the Bakken basin of North Dakota, Montana has more proven reserves than Saudia Arabia. That is just one field.

      • June 2, 2014 at 12:25 pm
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        So Planet, did you go out and support the Principal Charity Classic Golf Tournament last weekend in Des Moines or go jogging again? That looked like a very hilly course, but the pros handled it very well. The playoff was good. I was hoping the new guy to the tour would win, but Pernice made a putt and that was that.

  • May 27, 2014 at 1:23 pm
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    • May 27, 2014 at 2:08 pm
      Dave says:
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      Scientifically explain to me this. How will reducing our already reduced carbon footprint while China and India build coal fired power plants on a weekly basis to support their burgeoning middle classes help reduce CO2 emmissions worldwide? Where will all the money that you want to spend on the technology to increase our energy effiency come from when all our jobs are shipped to China and India, the lands of cheap labor and cheap energy? And who says people are not listening to scientists with a different opnion than yours on climate change, and who knows with certainty who is right and who is wrong? Or if there even is a “right” or “wrong” here? The left blindly follow the “climate change gods” such as Al Gore who have been proven to be liars. But because they are voices of the left, they must be right.

      “If you like yout Doctor, you can keep your Doctor. Period!”

      “If you like your healthcare plan you can keep your healthcare plan. Period!”

      • May 27, 2014 at 2:29 pm
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        Good one Dave. It is well known that China & India are the biggest polluters in the world. If this billionaire really wants to challenge someone on this issue, he should spend his money over there and change their attitudes. He and Gore should travel over there and make some speeches to those guys and convince them not to use so much energy and to get rid of coal.

        • May 27, 2014 at 6:19 pm
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          Yet China and India are taking steps to reduce their dependence on pollution. The Chinese government has produced a carbon tax in major cities, and the Indian government has signed a major deal with Gazprom to slowly divest itself of dirty fuels. It is not only India and China, but France and the United Kingdom are looking for measures to slow down their share of global pollution as well.

          If the US seriously wants to reduce global warming, it must act in concert with the rest of the world. We live in a society that comes becomes more interdependent everyday.

          Yes, Obama’s approval is low. But I guarantee the Senate stays Democrat. The Georgia seat looks like likely to switch hands, and it looks like Landrieu, Hagan, Begich and Udall will win. Also, if the election were held tomorrow, the country would more than likely vote for Obama versus some tea party fool Republican. I would gladly take a less popular Obama versus Ted “Calgary” Cruz or Rand “Aqua Buddha” Paul.

          As for 2016, have you found anyone that can compete with Hillary? I know you are not a RINO, but would you seriously vote for Paul or Cruz over Jeb Bush or Jon Huntsmann? The latter two give you the best chance to win the White House.

          But with GOP voters like you, I guess the White House will be in Democratic hands for a long time to come.

          Cheers agent!

          • May 28, 2014 at 12:06 pm
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            I think a retarded ape in a cage could compete with Hill-dawg. Let’s see if you can win the Hillary challenge, give me 1 thing she has successfully accomplished (and no, being elected and/or appointed to office doesn’t count).

          • May 28, 2014 at 1:15 pm
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            Well, who’s your guy/gal? Tell us that and we’ll debate the merits of each. Until then, Hillary’s looking pretty good.

          • May 28, 2014 at 1:16 pm
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            Dr. Ben Carson

          • May 28, 2014 at 1:17 pm
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            So…1 accomplishment by Hillary?

          • May 28, 2014 at 2:02 pm
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            Ben Carson??? LMFAO!!!! Just what are HIS references for the job? OMG. At least Hillary spent 8 years there, knows how the cow ate the cabbage, and which cow it was at that. She’s been a State Senator and Secretary of State. I’d say she’s OVER qualified for the job. Especially compared to your guy, who BTW hasn’t been nomintated yet. But I sure hope he is! Hillary’s a shoe-in then!!! Keep it coming GOP. You’re a laugh-riot a minute!

          • May 30, 2014 at 7:26 pm
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            Hillary comes from the man who got away with what Bush W couldn’t in regards to Iraq.

            I think she isn’t qualified for the job.

            Clinton was not one of our best presidents as I am sure you believe.

            Though to his credit, he did openly say in an interview, that he thinks it was the democrat’s fault for not stepping in on the housing market and blocking republicans.

            I mean really. Clinton said he screwed up, and we still call republicans liars.

          • May 30, 2014 at 7:31 pm
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            For you Libby:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMPPGlOpUiM

            while they were not the only cause of the collapse, I will also say:

            This isn’t all that democrats blocked. Did you know to have a high CRA rating, which allowed you to give CRA loans (more loans) and allowed you to go past bank growth in debt to revenues, you had to give more loans to minority low income earners, and you have to be able to prove it. These were especially tightened after Bill Clinton went after companies during his presidency and Obama went after Citi Bank.

            I looked this up, and you never listen.

            Look up the reason behind the high ratings of companies on the government website.

            Every, single, one, that failed.

            Lehman Bros, Country wide, were given high ratings in 2007 simply for “providing low income loans to minorities with little to no loan documentation”

            No surprise they couldn’t pay back the loans.

          • June 2, 2014 at 11:07 am
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            “Hillary comes from the man who got away with what Bush W couldn’t in regards to Iraq.” WTF?

            What MAN did Hillary come from? You’re an idiot. And so is GWB.

          • June 3, 2014 at 12:47 pm
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            Libby,

            Oh please do shut up.

            You know what I mean. If they are married, they have to be of like mindset. If he’s a dastardly liar, and she’s still with him, chances are she supports him.

            Does that make you feel better? That I said a FEMALE supports a MALE?

            You make everything into a gender war.

            Maybe rather than arguing how I said it, you should debate facts eh?

          • June 3, 2014 at 1:13 pm
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            I didn’t know what “fact” you were trying to make. Still don’t. What did Clinton get away with the Bush couldn’t? Please be more specific or shut up yourself.

            It’s not a gender war. And just because 2 people are married does not make them like-minded. My husband and I are not. Marriage doesn’t make you into one person with one brain. Or in your case, two people with one brain.

          • June 3, 2014 at 2:23 pm
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            Libby,

            This is getting old. You’re mad that I attached Hillary Clinton to her Husband Bill. The only reason could be gender issues, especially when you said she isn’t from Bill. That’s a gender issue through and through.

            Moving on:

            If you cannot connect the speech Clinton gave to the one Bush W did you are out of your mind.

            Clinton’s matches Bush W’s. Clinton is why the un sanctions got put in place. He bombed them.

            Al gore told HW Bush that HW Bush should have removed Saddam as every piece of info said we should, and Clinton backed him on this. It is one of the issues that won them 1992. The threat of Iraq. They won based on the threat of Iraq and dealing with it in 1992, then they ran against dealing with Iraq in 2006 and 2008. Really Libby. THAT is corrupt.

            But back on point: Bush W and Clinton held the same opinions of Iraq. And Bush W could not have tricked Clinton 10 years earlier in office. He is not a time traveler.

            Bush W, did not, fabricate or influence issues with Iraq.

            Clinton acted the same. And Hillary Clinton would also act the same.

            And on terms of the housing market she would make the same mistakes on the CRA regulations.

            And when it comes to corporate taxes, as well, in order to win votes.

            Clinton himself said that he made the mistake of letting our corporate tax rate become uncompetitive.

            Do you even listen to him anymore?

            He said we should lower it to 25%.

            Romney said we should lower it to 25%, and then we have a cow.

            No Hillary deserves to be in office.

          • June 3, 2014 at 3:31 pm
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            Sorry, Bob, but you were not clear in your original statement so, NO I did not understand where you were coming from.

            As far as Clinton and Bush, Clinton did not start a war with Iraq. Bush did. I will not continue to debate you about GWB. I will not change my mind. I lived through it and I know who the man is. Along with his evil twin, Cheney, and court jester, Karl Rove. Those three are the true axis of evil.

            Now. End of discussion. If you want to debate Hillary and her qualifications, fine. But do not attach them to Bill Clinton, as he is not the one running for office.

            Otherwise, I would have to assume your wife is as big of an arrogant asshole as you are just because you are married.

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        • May 28, 2014 at 11:22 am
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          I understand the concept of comparative advantage. I also understand that cheap labor is not the only reason for moving jobs from one place to another. Cheap energy, infrastructure, skilled labor force, lack of inordinate regulation all figure into that equation. By handing cheap energy (which we have enjoyed for decades) over to China and India, the growth of their middle classes and more skilled workforce, the building up of their infrastructure and their better business climate, we will be shipping jobs over there by the millions in the next few decades.

          • May 29, 2014 at 6:33 pm
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            Dave,
            We have not handed cheap energy over to China and India for a decade. Look at the deal that Russia cut with China to supply natural gas. It is remarkably discounted from what is paid by other countries (Asian markets particularly).

            http://www.npr.org/2014/05/29/316891522/russia-s-natural-gas-deal-with-china-likely-to-reshape-energy-markets

            As for better business climate in India, don’t make me laugh. I am of Indian origin and have travelled to the country at least twenty times (both for pleasure and business). The corruption that takes place in business would make the executives at AIG look like model citizens. The only thing that might be worse than India’s corruption is their infrastructure. If you have travelled to Mumbai, New Delhi, Chennai, etc, you will see that infrastructure was neglected by the previous government and makes America’s crumbling infrastructure look world class in comparison.
            Hence, you saw the election of Narendra Modi. A fair amount of people voted for his party because of his strong anti-corruption regime in Gujurat and the chance to replicate it across India.
            Chinese and Indian companies are not using the sweet deals cut with Russia to benefit their own infrastructure but are taking these resources to other parts of the world where they have vested interests (Latin America and Africa among others).
            Don’t see jobs jumping over by the thousands. Corruption, inflation, poor infrastructure, a deficient educational system, etc will keep growth far below expectations for an emerging economy like India.
            Thanks for your insights Dave.

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      Conservatives are not against science.

      And your attitude on this remains extremely bigoted.

  • May 27, 2014 at 1:54 pm
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    Nothing more important like Jobs, taxes, deficit, debt or bringing our boys back home. Lets blame someone for Mother Nature decisions. An act of god is always some mortals fault.

    • May 27, 2014 at 3:05 pm
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      FFA, this is off subject, but did your Bears pick up anyone in the draft that may help next season? The Cowboys/Jerry Jones did the same thing again hoping for a different result. Worst defense in the league, ran Demarcus Ware off to Denver to save on the cap and then drafted an offensive tackle in the first round. Three straight years of offensive linemen. I know you have to have a line that can keep the defense off Romo, but when you have a terrible defense and lose your best defender, it might make more sense to restock the defense. It is hard to outscore anyone in the Not for Long league.

      • May 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm
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        They picked up some DB early. Much needed. Corner Backs are getting older and older. Safties were noting to brag about either. Also picked up Jaret Allen out of MN. Probably best D Lineman in foot ball today. They let Peppers walk who signed with Green Bay. Ware would have been a great addition.

        The did sign Lynch from NIU as an undrafted free agent. Converting him to an RB. Hes got the home town folks pulling for him.

        All in all, Brandon MArshal is proclaiming this to be his break out year as Alshon has come of age and is commanding the DB attention.

        • May 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm
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          It doesn’t matter because the Packers are going to sweep the NFC.

          • May 27, 2014 at 5:40 pm
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            They might Destro, but sometimes the best laid plans of mice and men go awry. The Texans were touted to go to the Superbowl last year and they went 2-14. Shows you how much the experts knew. In this league, it is easy to go from first to worst and vice versa.

          • May 27, 2014 at 6:31 pm
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            No, I think the 49ers and Seahawks will both beat a beating down on them.

            Good defense 99 times out of 100 will beat good offense. The Packers defense has so many holes in it that you could drive Putin’s motorcade through it.

          • May 28, 2014 at 9:06 am
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            Destro – you and I agree on something! Go Pack Go!

          • May 28, 2014 at 1:57 pm
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            Oh Boy. Packer Fans….
            You have a top 5 QB. You also have a bunch of no name that just keep getting the job done week after week. Front Office nack for finding talent in all rounds of the draft is second to none. Last count I heard last year, all but three players drafted by the Pack on the Roster. thats enough to make even agent jealous.
            But when the Bears V Packers come around, toss out the record book. Seems someone is limping off that field every game… My fav foot ball week ends… I will only say this because you dont know who I am, but I love watching Aaron Rodgers. The pure football talent on your roster…. Lets talk again in the fall….

          • May 28, 2014 at 2:48 pm
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            Well, Rodgers was trained by the best.

          • May 28, 2014 at 4:49 pm
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            He was mentored by Farve. Lets see if he can refrain from taking pictures of Little Aaron and not send them cross country…
            It was the Bears that ended Bretts football playing career. Fitting that they did it to him in Minn… He was at the very least, entertaining. Didnt we put Aaron on the DL last year too??? Last year in my Fantasy League, the same guy had Rogers as did the Bears Defense. By the end of them games, he could not stand himself.

            You Pack fans are loyal and as nice as you can be about it. Always fun to trash talk. Them Minn Fans are something else. When you go there as an opposing fan, you are taking some risk. They come to Chi Town, they are just annoying pricks looking for a parking lot fight. Dont matter win or lose, they just want to hit someone.

          • May 28, 2014 at 6:09 pm
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            Hey FFA, the Central Division of the NFC is called the Black & Blue division for a reason. It really doesn’t matter what the records are, they just knock the snot out of each other for 60 minutes. I remember Dick Butkus going head hunting on just about every play. That is illegal now, but back then, the refs let almost everything go unless it was very blatant.

          • May 29, 2014 at 12:21 pm
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          • May 29, 2014 at 12:42 pm
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            Do you remember that Monday Night game he played the day his dad died??? His best day as a pro no doubt. I am sure he was going against me on the fantasy field that night just cause everyone seems to have career days when they play against me. I consistently post 2nd high score for the week but always go against top score…

            I’ll be drafting Brees again in the first round.

            Got some extra trash talk in the office. My CSR is a huge Vikes Fan. Her daughter is quite the athlete. May see her in the Olympics some day..

          • May 29, 2014 at 1:47 pm
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            I remember it all right, that was impressive. I also remember MNF when Freeman caught that pass that landed on his knee/shoulder pad/face mask and ran it in for the scoring TD over…the Viqueens! I was actually getting hate mail in form of bartender-passed notes on napkins from the Viking fans in the bar that night. I was the lonely Packer fan in the establishment and I had the last laugh.

      • May 27, 2014 at 5:55 pm
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        Sounds like Chicago did some good to me FFA. Allen is an animal that I wish Dallas had. Good for the Lynch kid. Perhaps they can make him an all purpose back/slot receiver if he has good hands.

        • May 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm
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          Our 4th string receiver went down with a torn ACL yesterday. Wonder if Bennett is still on the unemployment line.

          • May 28, 2014 at 2:47 pm
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            At least he was a fourth stringer. Dallas loses first stringers all the time and that is why they end up playing with couch potatos in the season. We lost our first string linebacker yesterday due to a knee injury.

          • May 28, 2014 at 5:54 pm
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            well that just sucks. Bears lost their first string LB early on last year. Pressed a rookie into action. He did ok. But you could tell his rookie mistakes..

          • May 29, 2014 at 9:41 am
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            Well, it is official. Sean Lee, first string linebacker is gone for the season with torn ACL. I think he has played in only half the games in the past 3 years due to various injuries. Too bad since he is their best linebacker and actually made some plays when he was healthy. By the way, this was a non contact drill, but that OL from Notre Dame they drafted first this year lost his balance and rolled over Lee on a play. I wouldn’t be surprised if Lee has to retire since he is apparently injury prone. Jones will have to scour the waiver wires and sign someone else that has been cut from another team.

          • May 29, 2014 at 10:35 am
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            YIKES… Not a good sign when season ending injuries start happening before the season starts…

            I heard this AM that Trump want to buy Buffalo Bills.. Ron – any thoughts on that subject???? He should be able to buy the players that they need to get to the big dance. Hopefully, he wont pull a Jones…

          • May 29, 2014 at 12:41 pm
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            FFA, I hadn’t heard the Trump rumors on the Bills. I thought he was sticking to golf course acquisitions and real estate. I wonder what the other owners attitudes would be with a full dose of Trump at their meetings. With the controversy on the concussion issue and pill issue hanging over them, the NFL may be paying out some serious bucks to former and maybe current players. The team doctors and trainers have been feeding the players the pain killers like candy so they can play.

          • May 29, 2014 at 12:45 pm
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            It was not on the news last night. was on the news this AM. They did state this was a rumor. So, who knows for sure. Before WGN reports anything, I am sure they check it out as much as could be.

            It would be an interesting mix…

        • May 29, 2014 at 2:38 pm
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          Planet, you are true to form in being the goofiest on this forum. Who in their right mind would be in a Bears bar and cheering for the Packers? What an idiot, but I guess that is about right for you.

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          • May 29, 2014 at 5:23 pm
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            I do that at least once a year. Head to the lake for a Bears Pack showdown with my WI friends…

  • May 27, 2014 at 3:05 pm
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    Climate change advocacy is but another example of pronouncements being put forth as facts. Where is it “settled” that climate change is even measurably impacted by human activity? To profess that we humans make as much difference in the normal process of climate fluctuations as claimed is the height of narcissism for the human race. Also, now that we claim that “climate” change is the issue, what happened to Al Gore’s pronouncements “global warming”? Was he mistaken in using that term? It seems we have now traded global warming in for a more encompassing term which would also seem to point more towards a natural phenomenon. No doubt we should reduce our carbon emissions and we have done so over the past 20 years and continue to do so, but, impatient activists don’t think we’ve done enough and want to beat us into submission while other countries continue to increase their carbon footprint. That would severely impact our economy,jobs and way of life with increased regulations, costs and control, while those countries replace our footprint. I’ll listen to the celebrity activists on the issue if I saw them taking real steps towards reducing their own footprints, e.g., no more energy absorbing mansions, private jets or high-end/low mpg cars, etc., If they don’t practice what they preach why should we?

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        I love the fact that you understand that you’re being hoodwinked and still defend your position. Lol, the tunnel of delusion runs deep.

        • May 28, 2014 at 11:16 am
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          At least I don’t make silly statements like “If they don’t practice what they preach why should we?”

          • May 28, 2014 at 11:53 am
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            Justifying your delusions.

          • May 28, 2014 at 12:02 pm
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            What delusions? Purple made no statement other than about Rusty’s attitude.

          • May 28, 2014 at 2:10 pm
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            I said he was delusional, he tacitly agreed by saying, “At least….”.

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            Why did you call him delustional to begin with?

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            (Again with the reading comprehension. Oye vay!)

          • May 28, 2014 at 4:07 pm
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            Yeah, you really need to work on your reading comprehension Libby, let me spell it out for you.

            >Rusty points out a number of ways/reasons the Climate Change lobby/movement is full of hot air(puns!)
            >Purple makes a flippant remark to him.
            >I point out that even when the absurdity is pointed out he is unflinching in his witticism and defense of the impossible.
            >Purple said “At least I don’t make silly statements…”

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            You’re an idiot.

    • May 27, 2014 at 3:57 pm
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      When Mother Nature proved Al Gore “Global Warming” off the mark, they had to change to something else. No way anyone that suffered through this past winter thinks Global Warming has any merit. Just look at your heat bills from last winter.

      • May 28, 2014 at 9:14 am
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        As far as your “global warming” comment is concerned, you are speaking to a region larger than the US. Hence, the word ‘global’. Ask Australia and New Zealand how hot their last summer was. I choose to teach my children, and eventually grandchildren, how to be good stewards of our planet and in the process, who knows, maybe they can effect some positive change in others. The Earth is a life and we shouldn’t continue to poison it. Why pour poison down God’s gift to all of us? If China and India (countries who are making changes by the way) jumped off a bridge, should the US? Or, should we do what we’ve always done and be a leader?

        • May 28, 2014 at 2:06 pm
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          No one recycles or composts more then my house hold does. a 45 gal+ recycle container and two smaller bins every week with about 3/4 of a 30 gal garbage can filled every week. Two compost bins at work. Thats with 6 people full time in my house…

          Want proof, ask my G Man.

          Dont worry too much about China. Soon as they foreclose on the loans they cut us, we will be Chinese too.

    • May 27, 2014 at 5:58 pm
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      Rusty, those goofy Hollywood types continue to make blow them up movies and no telling how much carbon they are emitting on a regular basis. Then, they have the guts to say regular folks need to be more green, stop driving doing normal every day activities.

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  • May 27, 2014 at 4:34 pm
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    It’s climate change, FFA. And it causes warming and cooling. Droughts and floods. Snow in May. Tornadoes in Connecticut. Summertime hail in PA. Things no-one remembers ever happening before.

    • May 27, 2014 at 5:28 pm
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      Just because dimwitted people can’t “remember ever happening” doesn’t mean that it hasn’t. If only Al Gore had been alive during the dust bowl, then he might actually have had something to propagandize his cause and make even more money.

      • May 28, 2014 at 12:03 pm
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        Dimwitted people? And you have the nerve to accuse others of resorting to name-calling? Ha! Pot, meet kettle.

        • May 28, 2014 at 12:53 pm
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          Libby, please..you are one of the most rude people on this site. You bash others, and then if someone calls you out on it, they have “lack of morality, they are dimwitted, etc.” Please, be cordial in your rantings. Otherwise, i will have to call the men in white jackets with the oversized butterfly nets.

          • May 28, 2014 at 1:17 pm
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            I don’t mind being called out for name-calling and swearing. I freely admit, embrace it in fact. But don’t call out others when you’re doing the same freakin’ thing. That’s republican, I mean hypocrital. I always get those two things mixed up! Dag nabbit!

          • May 28, 2014 at 4:12 pm
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            When did I accuse others of resorting to name-calling? I mean don’t get me wrong, almost everyone on this site is guilty of it, but I’m not running around taking the higher ground saying that I don’t.

            And yes, dimwitted. You would have to be to assume that up until 25 years ago the global climate was nothing but sunshiney rainbows and unicorns grazing on cinnabon fields.

          • June 2, 2014 at 11:13 am
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            I was responding to Emp. Try taking a reading comprehension course. All you neocons need it.

    • May 28, 2014 at 10:38 am
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      I have proof! Al Gore causes Global Warming with his hot air and here is photographic proof:

      http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/al-gore-climate-change.jpg

    • May 28, 2014 at 2:09 pm
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      That hail storm that ran through my area last week was brutal… The tornado in Central IL last Novemeber…. that weather event was never recorded – if you believe the Il politicians that keep the stats.

      I would agree change, not warming. Ask me again in July when its 110 degrees. I may change my mind.

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  • May 28, 2014 at 11:18 am
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    Fools, fools, and more fools. IJ is innudated with them.

    • May 28, 2014 at 11:50 am
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      Right, because claiming that hail in early Summer, late snows, droughts/floods, and tornadoes never happened before the past 15 years (because that’s essentially what you ARE saying) as evidence of this grave threat of climate change isn’t foolish.

      • May 28, 2014 at 12:06 pm
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        I never said they never happened before, you turd. I said they are happening in areas where they’ve never happened before, at times when they’ve never happened before and they’re happening more often and more violent than they’ve happened before.

        I’m going to open the “Republican’t School of Comprehensive Reading Skills.” I should make a bundle. And when I do, I’m sure I’ll switch parties! LOL!!!!

        • May 28, 2014 at 4:17 pm
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          “never happened before”

          YOU DON’T KNOW THAT!!! lol

          • May 30, 2014 at 12:36 pm
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            Destro, Libby is a descendant of Methuselah, so she remembers when the 1st steam engine came about.

  • May 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm
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    I hope there is more rain in deserts! I do not want our planet turning into Dune, where the spice has to flow…

    • May 28, 2014 at 1:19 pm
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      Grow up, Emp. The world is not a sci-fi movie or a cartoon.

      • May 28, 2014 at 2:31 pm
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        Godzilla is made up??? He seems so real in the movie.

        • May 29, 2014 at 4:17 pm
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          What??? Are you kidding? I thought he came free when the ice melted from a glacier.

        • May 29, 2014 at 5:22 pm
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          FFA, I understand that the Japanese were really upset that the Americans had hijacked their Godzilla franchise. I used to laugh in the old Godzilla movies with the toy cars and buildings that Godzilla stepped on. The technology was not very good back then.

          • May 29, 2014 at 5:25 pm
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            Watched them with my Gr Kids. They got a kick out of them. It was the first time they figured out the Dubbing of English Voice over thing.

      • May 29, 2014 at 4:16 pm
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        Libby, I want change. Sometimes the way people behave is like a cartoon and some of the drivel coming out of people’s mouths are science fiction.

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          I’ve noticed that when you post.

    • May 28, 2014 at 4:22 pm
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      Maybe the natural earth cycle includes sea level rises which deserts soak up, revitalizing them and creating new habitable environments.

      Damn climate change advocates trying to turn our planet into Dune!!!

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      • May 28, 2014 at 4:46 pm
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        And WE’RE the racists…

        I’m still awaiting any answer as to why Hill-dawg would be a good candidate and any accomplishments.

      • May 28, 2014 at 4:48 pm
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        Anyone is better than a sleazy community organizer.

        • May 29, 2014 at 12:07 pm
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          Hey Destro, would you rather have a Community Organizer in charge of Healthcare for the nation including the VA or a world renowned Neurosurgeon who has been in Healthcare all his adult life? I wonder what the VA would be doing for the past 10 years if Carson had been around. I think there would have been a big house cleaning and all the dead wood sent packing and people installed who could run the place and get our veterans the care they deserved.

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          • May 29, 2014 at 12:46 pm
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            Encountered another Cluster F%$#with OfnBama Care today. Cant get a new born on the policy and no one will give me an explanation as to why or when it could be completed.

            This thing is still a mess.

      • May 28, 2014 at 6:00 pm
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        Dr. Ben has more smarts in his little finger than the current President has in his whole body and on top of that has “common sense”. That goes a long way in figuring out how to handle problems and how to govern.

        • May 29, 2014 at 2:41 pm
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          Hey FFA, I have a great idea. We make all our politicians go to the VA for their medical treatment in the future. I kind of think some action would be taken and they would be burning the midnight oil to get it fixed before they needed surgery or treatment.

          • May 30, 2014 at 2:53 pm
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            Great news FFA. Shinseki resigned and the doofus Jay Carney as well. I guess he got tired standing up there looking like a fool and trying to spin the disastrous administration’s agenda. Perhaps the rats are deserting the ship now. Re-arranging the deck chairs wasn’t working out so well.

          • May 30, 2014 at 4:17 pm
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            I’ll have to make sure to catch the news tonight. Been difficult lately. Parents getting evicted out of Nursing home – No Personal Assets to contribute. 54 years married last week. never been apart. No. mom going to live with my brother and dad getting dumped into the public aid system.
            Tossed my Step Daughter last week. Gr Kids have become glued to me. I spend a lot of time in the evening with them- Home work, getting them to bed, ect…. Seems they like to read. She just would not take the time with them.

            Anyways, taking my mom to see Englebert Humperdink sunday. Could be the last time I see her smile.

    • May 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm
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      Hey foreigner, If I worked for NASA, I wouldn’t be here to see your grade school playground insults.

      • May 30, 2014 at 4:49 pm
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        Sorry FFA. I lost both of my parents some years ago. They didn’t linger long after getting sick so I and my siblings didn’t have to go through what you are. Even with my wife’s health issues, I tell her we are blessed because there are a lot of people out there with far worse problems. I hope everything works out for you.

    • May 28, 2014 at 4:47 pm
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      Are you talking Cleveland, Ohio? Or the Cleveland on Neptune?

      • May 29, 2014 at 4:23 pm
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        Well if we were working for NASA, that statement makes no sense given that we have already traveled to the moon. If I was working for NASA, I would prioritize focusing on energy experiments, matter transportation (i.e. Star Trek transporters), and developing a weapons platform to protect the Earth from extraplanetary objects.

    • May 29, 2014 at 10:18 am
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      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/28/ben-carson-refuses-declare-political-party-or-rule/

      Interesting. Not sure he’s a republican, though.

      • May 29, 2014 at 2:28 pm
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        One thing is for sure KY, Dr. Ben is not a RINO. He is a true Conservative and not a liberal bone in his body. That is why he is so appealing. He speaks in front of standing room only audiences so they must like what he has to say.

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    • May 29, 2014 at 10:43 am
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      It would be less stress, thats for sure. After the past week, time for a mindless job.

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    • May 29, 2014 at 1:44 pm
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      I’ll agree with Climate Change. Global Warming – a bunch of hot air.

      Anyone that is not a politician is a better option then someone that is.

    • May 29, 2014 at 2:16 pm
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      I’ll continue to question / deny politicians. They are all liars especially the ones from IL that cut their teeth in Cook County.
      Liars. Thief. General All around Scum.

      • May 29, 2014 at 4:25 pm
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        Hey Im a fellow IL…reason why we call it “Crook County” instead of Cook County.

        • May 29, 2014 at 5:27 pm
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          HMM. Another Flat Lander… Cubs or Sox?

          • May 29, 2014 at 6:09 pm
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            I kind of like the Sox over the Cubs FFA. They seem to have a few more ballplayers and have a better record. It didn’t take the Cubs long to be out of the race, did it? My Rangers were in a dry spell for a while with half the team on the DL, but they brought up some minor leaguers who are showing some energy and they have been winning lately. Darvish is a truly great pitcher. I wish we had three more like him.

          • May 30, 2014 at 12:39 pm
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            Actually neither…not a baseball fan. Hope the Hawks take it to the Kings tonight and keep it comfortable with a 10 goal lead at the end of the 1st period…so I dont get my blood pressure boiling.

          • May 30, 2014 at 2:04 pm
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            The Black Hawks!!!! Gonna do the Impossible!

          • May 31, 2014 at 2:58 pm
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            ell, emp, maybe some day we will actually have a pro team in chicago to cheer for…

        • June 2, 2014 at 4:08 pm
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          Hey Empo, didn’t I hear that Hillary was originally from Chicago and was raised there? If so, perhaps her Chicago roots run deep and that is the reason why she is a Progressive witch.

        • June 2, 2014 at 4:42 pm
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          Hey Destro – Did you know Hillary Clinton started out as a Republican, when she became upset upset in 1968 by the way Richard Nixon’s campaign portrayed Rockefeller, discovered voter fraud being perpetrated by them, and perceived “veiled” racist messages at the RNC and she left the Republican Party for good. There still might be hope for you.

  • May 30, 2014 at 9:57 am
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    I don’t like PACs influencing elections with out of state money & ideas. It takes away from local issues. US Representatives and Senators are on the national stage, but they were elected to represent their state. Just another reason I don’t like politics.

    • May 30, 2014 at 11:20 am
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      I agree KY. Politics is a very nasty game. Lobbyists, PACS have been influencing elections for a long time so they can elect people to do their bidding. The whole system is very corrupt. We also don’t like organizations like ACORN going in and falsifying voter registrations and Democrats voting multiple times to elect some Progressive Socialist to office. That is why we need voter ID laws to stay in place.

  • May 30, 2014 at 12:41 pm
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    You know what will help TREMENDOUSLY with the whole government program?

    1) Term limits
    2) No PACS
    3) Voter ID

    There is a lot of voting fraud that happens in Cook County.

    • May 30, 2014 at 2:26 pm
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      Voting for Rauner, eh?

      • June 3, 2014 at 5:50 pm
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        FFA, slightly off subject, but I just renewed the agency E&O for this year. Renewal terms were very good with almost a flat renewal since we haven’t had problems for several years. The carrier threw in Cyber Liability at no charge this year. We don’t store customer info in our server since it is off site with the vendor and we have minimal exposure to being hacked, but they said it is possible to have a rogue employee who might release agency proprietary info and a claim might result. We don’t have anyone like that, but it is possible and the coverage is free, so it is now included. Does your E&O include the coverage?

        • June 4, 2014 at 1:36 pm
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          Good question… I dont recall. Ill dig that out. I know renewal only went up about $5.00 monthly. I was happy with that. I have a diminishing Deductible. So Originally I elected $5000 and its whittled down to $2500. Gonna look at the $10,000 ded and has out where its diminished to.



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