Climate Change Bottom-Line Talk Grows, S&P Director Says

By Don Jergler | June 18, 2014
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  • June 18, 2014 at 5:27 pm
    Always Amazed says:
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    “A report by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce shows that as a result of the regulations the economy will take an $859 billion hit by 2030 and Americans will pay more for electricity, see slower economic growth and fewer jobs created.” And this is what Obama warned us about when he was running – that utility bills would be going up and y’all when and voted for him anyway. But on the brighter side he did say our health insurance would go down. BWHAHAHAHA!

    • June 19, 2014 at 11:00 am
      KY jw says:
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      Shouldn’t you be crying instead of laughing? At the very least, using sarcasm. I mean, this affects you too.

    • June 19, 2014 at 2:25 pm
      Agent says:
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      Yes, Always. He did promise us that under his plan, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Instead of developing clean coal technology, the existing coal plants will just be shut down and replaced with Natural Gas at a tremendous expense and huge rate increases. KY, this is going to hurt the coal industry in Kentucky as well just like it is in West Virginia and other producing states. This country could not have a more incoherent energy policy than the one currently in place. With the Middle East going bonkers, we should be turning the Energy Industry loose full blast and to belay some of the onerous coal regulations written by the job killing EPA.

    • June 19, 2014 at 5:21 pm
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      I’m sure the Chamber did release another bogus “report.” That’s probably why so many major corporations are either speaking directly in opposition to the Chamber or dropping their Chamber membership altogether – Intel, Apple, Prudential, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft, Best Buy, Yahoo…I could go on.

  • June 19, 2014 at 3:13 pm
    Always Amazed says:
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    http://www.cfact.org/2014/06/17/scientist-reveals-inconvenient-truth-to-alarmists/

    Actually it didn’t affect me yet but probably will come October when my renewal comes up unless Obama give us all another extension and were able to keep our “subgrade” polices that don’t have the extra benefits that are totally useless to anyone who is over 45 and has gone through menopause. But laugh I do at all the empty, full of hot-air promises and false statements from a Chicago-thug president who thinks if we play nice with Iran they’ll do us a favor. O’Riely said it the best “This might work with the Brits but not with Iran.”

    As for climate change I’ve posted a link that tells of a scientist who just discovered chunks of wood on top of the Swiss Alps that date back 4,000 years ago which blows this whole global warming crap out the window. It’s a very interesting read but I’m sure old Libby and her Lib friends won’t like it one bit.

    And I too Agent feel very bad for the people of KY. They are really going to get hurt all the way around. Obama is destroying this country from the inside out and for now there’s nothing we can do about it. How about the 6 people including Lois Lerner who have had their computers mysteriously cash and the hard drives destroyed right around the IRS scandal. GIVE ME A BREAK. You’d have to be dumber than a doornail not to see the lies and hypocrisy of this administration. If Bush would have done an 1/8 of the crap Obama and his cronies have done they would be screaming for his resignation and impeachment.

    • June 20, 2014 at 10:23 am
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      There once was a man from KY. He was the best damned VHS tape manufacturer in all of Appalachia. Then 1995 came around and dvd and other digital formats came out. The guy died. Moral of the story, move on with the times, evolve or die. Finish school but never stop learning new technologies and methods. There’s another reason why coal is called a Fossil Fuel, its way past it’s prime.

    • June 20, 2014 at 1:28 pm
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      Always – Shouldn’t the top of the Swiss Alps be covered in snow and not wood? Doesn’t that just enforce the global warmning trend?

      • June 20, 2014 at 2:25 pm
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        Did you even read the article Miss Know-It-All? No, it doesn’t enforce it but I knew that would be your spin on it. Glacier’s have been increasing and decreasing for millions of years and they are still doing it today. That’s nature also known as the Earths Cycles. What started the last ice age the one were still going through? Gee, it wasn’t fossil flue now was it? Couldn’t of been all the gas burning vehicles out there either.

        • June 20, 2014 at 2:58 pm
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          So it appears you don’t refute that the climate is rapidly changing.

          I said nothing about the cause of the change, only that we are going through a rapid rate of change that is out of the ordinary for the past 400,000 years.

          The two issues are not mutually exclusive. I don’t claim to know the cause or say that man is causing the change. Only that the change exists.

          Why do you rabid righties always go for the throat?

        • June 20, 2014 at 3:01 pm
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          And while some say there isn’t, I believe there is a difference between “Global Warming” and “Climate Change.” I do not think both terms are interchangable.

          The climate is changing at a rapid pace. It is affecting all weather patterns, including warming, cooling, natural disasters, etc.

          • June 20, 2014 at 4:28 pm
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            Absolutely correct Libby. As supported by overwhelming scientific evidence from many different fields. The denialist opinion isn’t at all informed by the science, but rather what they read on the right-wing blogosphere from non-scientists that have a political agenda.

          • June 20, 2014 at 5:09 pm
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            Libby, the reason the term “climate change” is more recently come into currency is that scientists now fully realize that the impact of a changing climate are much more far reaching than just an increase in average global temperatures – such as significant increases in precipitation, droughts, flooding, storms of all sorts, etc.

            Of course, the denialists claim that the Central Committee of Climate Hoaxers has mandated that everybody use a new term. Jeez, these people are bizarre. There’s no other word for it.

        • June 20, 2014 at 4:26 pm
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          Always, the last Ice Age was caused by eccentricities in Earth’s orbit, primarily the Earth’s tilt in respect to the orbital plane. It is pretty well established that there will be another one many thousands of years in the future (I’ve seen estimates of between 10,000 and 20,000 years).

          What the hell does that have to do with current climate change? Are you just making stuff up now?

    • June 20, 2014 at 6:36 pm
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      “Actually it didn’t affect me yet but probably will come October when my renewal comes up unless Obama give us all another extension and were able to keep our “subgrade” polices that don’t have the extra benefits that are totally useless to anyone who is over 45 and has gone through menopause.”

      I agree whole-heartedly. Which is why I wonder why a middle-aged male like myself has to pay for cervical or uterine cancer. The entire concept of insurance is *crazy*

  • June 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm
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    Very good Always. You are right about the libs on this blog. They don’t accept any info that is not from their Climate Change discredited scientists. This is really about money and how much they can make on Al Gore’s Carbon exchange. By the way, these libs are dumber than a doorknob and they viciously attack anyone with a different opinion or set of facts. Now, it seems Obama thinks he owns the Pacific Ocean since with a stroke of the pen, he declared 786,000 sq miles to be a marine preserve. Hmm! I wonder what the other countries that fish in the Pacific will have to say about that.

    • June 19, 2014 at 5:41 pm
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      Always Amazed – “As for climate change I’ve posted a link that tells of a scientist who just discovered chunks of wood on top of the Swiss Alps that date back 4,000 years ago which blows this whole global warming crap out the window.”

      OK, I laughed out loud at that. I won’t take the time to explain exactly why the substance of your remark (such as it is) is hysterically absurd and preposterous, but I do find the whole [caps lock power active!] “BLOWS THE LID OFF!!!!” tone rather amusing.

      Agent – some wild ass accusations about corrupt climate scientists, forever failing to provide a solitary shred of evidence to support such accusations.

      • June 20, 2014 at 11:22 am
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        Perhaps you have been hiding out in a cave for several years RBC. This was all over the news for quite a while a few years back on all the emails discovered by the so called “scientists” who admitted falsifying data and some actually resigned. Even KY saw that and was scratching her head wondering why they would lie and falsify their data. If you believe your scientists, you have a very low IQ.

        • June 20, 2014 at 4:12 pm
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          Agent, I saw the wingnuts go crazy, but they have yet to provide a solitary item from the stolen emails that remotely suggests data were falsified, nor points to any action that was unethical or improper. In fact, the scientists involved were cleared of any wrongdoing in *eleven* separate independent investigations. Nor have deniers been able to point to anything in those emails.

          Perhaps you can provide a quote from the emails that substantiates your accusation? Not that I’m holding my breath. If you believe what you read in the denialist bubble, you have a very low IQ.

  • June 20, 2014 at 10:12 am
    txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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    They should change their name to the Chamber of Comedy. Odd how hypocritical they are towards unions yet they meet the very definition of one. Their agenda however is to keep wages down and make sure the prom king and queen that never left town are still in charge. So glad I relinquished my membership there, I felt dirty being a part of such a corrupt organization. I guess this is what doing gay for pay feels like.

  • June 20, 2014 at 12:26 pm
    Always Amazed says:
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    TX – you wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you right in the face. You’re the one who is amusing. Keep living in that the sky is falling – last week they still had ice burgs floating in Lake Superior for goodness sakes and probably still do. Speaking of corruption, so very glad you brought it up – have you been paying attention to the whole IRS scandal – “Not one smidgen of corruption” per Obama. The hard drives no longer exists. 2 years of years of emails missing from 6 count them 6 employees including Lois Lerner who took the 5th!!! You libs are a laughing stock these days. Most corrupt administration EVER.

    • June 20, 2014 at 1:33 pm
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      It’s obvious you don’t know the difference between climate and weather. Please stop embarrassing yourself by trying to deny what NOBODY else is denying. There has been a drastic increase in climate change on the planet Earth. Why do you people fail to accept that? Nobody says the sky is falling, but you can’t refute the science. Well, you can. But you’d be looked at the same way as if you insisted the world was flat.

      • June 20, 2014 at 4:17 pm
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        To paraphrase Always – “It snowed last night where I lived, which BLOWS THE LID OFF!!! the climate change lie!!! They said it would never ever ever snow again!”

        It’s rather like watching evening come and concluding that THE SUN HAS BEEN EXTINGUISHED!

        Still no specific evidence to support all of the accusations being thrown around *looks at watch….* *…time passes….*

        • June 20, 2014 at 4:48 pm
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          It always snows when you like to Pablo Escobar

          • June 20, 2014 at 5:25 pm
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            That a whole different kind of snow…

    • June 20, 2014 at 2:30 pm
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      I bet the hard drives are with the WMD’s and the “real killers” in the OJ case

      • June 22, 2014 at 4:45 pm
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        Yes I think you’re right, txmouth. I’d also like to add for the heck of it, freedom fries. Oh, and what America needs right now is for you to go shopping. Finally, remember, hang a banner that says Mission Accomplished.

  • June 20, 2014 at 2:16 pm
    Always Amazed says:
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    Right, Miss know-it-all. No mention of the corruption in WH though. That must be a hard pill for you to swallow.

    The Earth is going through is cycles which it has for millions of years – you libs just don’t get it or refuse to get it because it would make your fearless leader look even more ridiculous than he dose now. Has he come on the TV saying he new nothing of the 2 years or emails and hard drives that have been lost or destroyed and that he found out about it just like the rest of us by watching the news? That excuse, even you libs, have to admit is getting very old.

    • June 20, 2014 at 2:33 pm
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      But according to conservatives, the Earth is 6000 years old. How has it gone through cycles for millions of years?

      • June 20, 2014 at 3:54 pm
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        Keep grasping at straws.

    • June 20, 2014 at 3:04 pm
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      I’m not a know-it-all, but I do know enough to accept there is a rapid increase in climate change. Only a dumbo would refute that.

      As far as corruption in the WH, no, I do not care to comment one way or the other because I DON’T KNOW. I know all of you Republicans have the inside scoop on who did what to whom when, but me? I’m out of the loop.

      • June 20, 2014 at 3:19 pm
        txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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        The mind is a terrible thing to waste. Unfortunately their information comes from one source and one source only, Faux News. Due to their primitive nature, they travel in packs and this news medium tends to be broadcasted to the masses of asses. Military bases only show Faux News, truck stops, frat houses, Mega Churches, NASCAR rallies, Klan/Tea Party Rallies (same thing). One of the tactics of psychological operations (Psy Ops) is to yell over people in a panel discussion to prevent another view point from getting across (one using science or other factual evidence). This looks and sounds so “maverick” and assertive by that “gotcha media”, but is really nothing more than a bunch of mouth breathers and booger eaters. At the end of the day, Bill Orally is still getting his salad tossed by Sheppard Smith, and cleaned up with a loofa. Karl Rove will eventually commit suicide for the life he has lived, and the Fox and Friends with their short and curlies hanging out of their skirts will eventually get fat and ugly and look like Nancy Grace.

        • June 20, 2014 at 3:39 pm
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          BTW just what is MSNBC and CNNs ratings these days? Not very good; are they? I wonder why?

          • June 20, 2014 at 3:53 pm
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            Like I said, Masses of Asses

          • June 20, 2014 at 4:33 pm
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            Yes, Fox is very good at what they do, I’ll give them that. Unfortunately, what they do isn’t journalism.

          • June 20, 2014 at 4:44 pm
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            Fox is absolutely amazing at what they do. Just like Rasslin’ and NASCAR. NARSCAR works their sponsors like no one, and could make the Duck Dynasty (another example)guys by Craftsman tampons just because they were associated with racin’. Problem is that it takes a crowd of knuckle dragging droolers to believe the hype.

          • June 20, 2014 at 5:26 pm
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            I believe that I read that the average age of the Fox News [sic] audience is something like 67. They pander to the “Damn kids these days! Get off my lawn!” crowd.

          • June 20, 2014 at 6:29 pm
            txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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            67? You sure that’s not IQ?

          • June 22, 2014 at 4:40 pm
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            Probably because all cable news outlets suck. Fox is by far the worst, but the others aren’t too far behind them.

          • June 24, 2014 at 1:01 pm
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            Great new footage of Fox “Heel” Greg Jarrett wrasslin’ with the cops in Minnesota. He either had a powder doughnut or he hit the boog sug.

          • June 24, 2014 at 3:34 pm
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            Always, I think my local channel has better viewership ratings than MSNBC or CNN. Al Jazeirah has even fewer after they bought Al Gore’s station. Their most popular feature is Islam’s call to prayer which boogereater regularly tunes in.

          • June 25, 2014 at 8:36 am
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            You are correct. I pray that Texico will get rain and that it will be washed off the continent. You should get a boat. You can call it “Agent’s Ark”

    • June 20, 2014 at 4:18 pm
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      Again with the “cycles” theory. Do you have a solitary shred of evidence that the current period of rapid warming is caused by *any* know natural cycle? Or are you just making word salad?

  • June 20, 2014 at 3:29 pm
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    It’s no wonder why they call you libs sheepeople.

    • June 20, 2014 at 4:05 pm
      Libby says:
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      It’s sheeple.

      • June 20, 2014 at 4:21 pm
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        Libby, are you beginning to see a pattern with the denialists?

        1. Make a wild a$$ assertion, usually involving accusations of improper scientific conduct.

        2. Throw out meaningless phrases, such as “the climate has always changed!”

        3. When called out to provide a solitary shred of evidence for #1, and any evidence that ties “cycles” with current climate change, proceed to #4 and/or #5

        4. Obama is corrupt and Al Gore if fat!!!!

        5. Call anybody requesting evidence names.

        I think we’ve already gone through about five iterations of this just in this short discussion.

        • June 23, 2014 at 12:28 pm
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          Wow! I can’t believe I missed this/

          1) So if someone has a different viewpoint with conflicting evidence, that’s a “wild @$$ accusation. It’s called a hypothesis, and we all present facts. That is what a debate is called.

          2) This phrase has meaning, like “the sun has always shined.”

          3) I have provided different pieces of evidence in past threads. I have called out your side on your facts, and you fail to respond, saying that I am denialist. No, I have a different opinion on something that is very debatable.

          4) Thanks for posting a fact.

          5) It runs on both sides, so please get off your high horse.

          • June 23, 2014 at 6:41 pm
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            >1) So if someone has a different viewpoint with conflicting >evidence, that’s a “wild @$$ accusation. It’s called a >hypothesis, and we all present facts. That is what a debate >is called.

            As I defined it, a “wild a$$ accusation” is an accusation produced without any evidence whatsoever. You, Agent, and others have repeatedly accused climate scientists of fraud, data falsification, abusing small animals etc. Without offering a shred of supporting evidence. Not a name, not a place, etc. All I get is vague references to stolen emails which, contrary to the denialists’ assertion, absolutely do not support any accusation of malfeasance. Just in this thread I asked agent to produce the language from the emails that he believes supports his accusation. To date…*crickets* But that’s all I ever get from denialists.

            >2) This phrase has meaning, like “the sun has always >shined.”

            The phrase is meaningless in relation to the current rapid climate change. Again, you folks draw this conclusion *again* without offering a solitary shred of valid evidence to support it. There are no known natural cycles contributing to current global warming.

            >3) I have provided different pieces of evidence in past >threads. I have called out your side on your facts, and >you fail to respond, saying that I am denialist. No, I >have a different opinion on something that is very >debatable.

            I believe I have respond to the so-called evidence that you’ve posted. Hint: some guy on a blog just making unfounded assertions is not evidence of anything pertaining to climate change. No “evidence” that you’ve posted is remotely credible. If you’ve think I’ve failed to adequately respond to your “evidence,” let me know and I’ll respond again here.

            >4) Thanks for posting a fact.

            It is fact that is emblematic of denialists debating styles, such as they are.

            >5) It runs on both sides, so please get off your high >horse.

            I’m not on a horse, and if I were, it certainly wouldn’t be a horse that is high (on what?). I’m pointing out that name calling is rather childish and contributes nothing to discussion. That “others do it to” is not really a response.

    • June 20, 2014 at 4:58 pm
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      No, these are sheepeople

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

      I wonder who was the top and who was the bottom

      • June 20, 2014 at 5:14 pm
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        Do not…I repeat…do not, click on this link. You’ll never be able to unsee it. You’ll have to poke out your mind’s eye!

      • June 22, 2014 at 4:29 pm
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        The Don is so pompous, I bet he didn’t even give Guliani a courtesy reach around.

  • June 20, 2014 at 4:22 pm
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    Thank you for the correction and for the clarification.

  • June 20, 2014 at 4:52 pm
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    From a preeminent science journal Scientific American…er….I mean from the liberal propaganda organ Scientific American.

    “Yet despite its history and today’s unprecedented riches from science, the U.S. has begun to slip off of its science foundation. Indeed, in this election cycle, some 236 years after Jefferson penned the Declaration of Independence, several major party contenders for political office took positions that can only be described as “antiscience”: against evolution, human-induced climate change, vaccines, stem cell research, and more. A former Republican governor even warned that his own political party was in danger of becoming “the antiscience party.”

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/antiscience-beliefs-jeopardize-us-democracy/

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      “Such positions could typically be dismissed as nothing more than election-year posturing except that they reflect an anti-intellectual conformity that is gaining strength in the U.S. at precisely the moment that most of the important opportunities for economic growth, and serious threats to the well-being of the nation, require a better grasp of scientific issues. By turning public opinion away from the antiauthoritarian principles of the nation’s founders, the new science denialism is creating an existential crisis like few the country has faced before.”

    • June 20, 2014 at 5:02 pm
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      In fact, we haven’t seen so much anti-intellectualism / anti-science since the Indiana legislature attempted to fix the value of pi to 3.14.

      “In North Carolina this year the state legislature considered House Bill No. 819, which prohibited using estimates of future sea-level rise made by most scientists when planning to protect low-lying areas. (Increasing sea level is a predicted consequence of global warming.) The proposed law would have permitted planning only for a politically correct rise of eight inches instead of the three to four feet that scientists predict for the area by 2100.

      Virginia Republicans took similar action in June, banning the use of the term “sea-level rise” from a government-commissioned study and instead requiring use of the phrase “recurrent flooding” because “sea-level rise” is considered “a left-wing term,” according to one of the legislators.”

    • June 22, 2014 at 4:10 pm
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      Becoming? They ARE the antiscience party. If politics were a Monday Night event like football, the giant Oompa Loompa John Boehner would introduce himself, “John Boehner, THE antisciene party.”

      • June 23, 2014 at 6:45 pm
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        I can’t disagree, Captain. It would be hard to imagine a more anti-science party if they were openly performing trails for witchcraft on the Capital lawn.

  • June 20, 2014 at 5:22 pm
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    As for the agenda driving denialism, look no further. Follow the money. Sheeple (or variously, Sheepeople) herded, and completely unaware of the manipulation.

    he Koch-brothers-funded Americans for Prosperity spearheaded a letter published as a full-page advertisement in Politico on June 9, 2014, attacking wind energy and claiming that 117 organizations oppose reviving wind-energy tax breaks that expired at the end of 2013. The Energy and Policy Institute examined the list of signatories and discovered that a majority of the groups have ties to the Koch brothers or other fossil-fuel interests.

    The fossil-fuel industry continues to enjoy billions in taxpayer handouts that are written into the tax code and funds supposed “free-market” front groups to attack clean-energy tax breaks. We’ve tracked fossil-fuel-funded front groups mobilizing across the country to weaken the clean-energy industry, which has become a major threat to the fossil-fuel status quo.”

  • June 20, 2014 at 5:22 pm
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    • June 20, 2014 at 5:30 pm
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      I’m sorry, was this a discussion about Obama’s approval ratings, or climate change? Or are you trying to change the subject?

      • June 20, 2014 at 6:06 pm
        txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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        what i think he was trying to say was this:

        http://youtu.be/CMNry4PE93Y

        • June 20, 2014 at 6:19 pm
          Reality_based_community says:
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          No…the turtle kid is much more coherent and makes much more sense.

      • June 22, 2014 at 4:23 pm
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        It’s always about President Obama. It’s either the fact they are trying so hard to make this President seem worse than the previous one or it’s penis envy, one of the two.

        • June 23, 2014 at 4:25 pm
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          Planet, we don’t have to make this President seem worse than any other President. He is doing a fine job of making the biggest mess in American history.

  • June 23, 2014 at 8:42 am
    txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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    Penis Envy – well he is black, just sayin’

    • June 23, 2014 at 8:56 am
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      That’s what I’m talking about. All those old white Repubs don’t want to have the zipper contest. Neither do the Koch Bros. So, they make it a purse contest instead. The Kochs have huge purses. Not so sure about their inseam measurements, though.

  • June 23, 2014 at 9:19 am
    txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
    Hot debate. What do you think?
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    Zipper Contest – all I can think about is There’s Something About Mary

    • June 23, 2014 at 1:27 pm
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      Owwwww!

  • June 23, 2014 at 3:53 pm
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    Can anyone here explain to me the role of ozone on the environment and the effect of greenhouse gasses on ozone?

    • June 23, 2014 at 4:50 pm
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      shield and gone

    • June 23, 2014 at 7:06 pm
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      The ozone prevents much harmful (to life) UV light from entering the Earth’s atmosphere. I know of no effect of greenhouse gasses on the ozone. The depletion of the ozone has been largely reversed due to banning CFCs, such as certain refrigerants, propellants, etc. Of course, you may remember when scientists warning of ozone depletion were called “alarmist” by vested interests back in the 90s. Plus a change…

  • June 23, 2014 at 5:54 pm
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    On an almost humorous side note, the debates between the various sides of the climate changing / warming / sky is falling issue has invaded fiction. Yes, books that are not based on reality. I read a blog post of author Claude Nougat, “Why is Climate Fiction So Controversial?”.

    Go to this link: http://publishingperspectives.com/2014/06/why-climate-fiction-has-gone-viral/
    and read the comments. Keep in mind, this is all about FICTION.

    • June 24, 2014 at 8:33 am
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      Do they have a coloring book version? I’m from Texico and reading is not so fundamental.

    • June 24, 2014 at 3:43 pm
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      Perfect term KY. RBC and others are trying to sell Cli Fi to everyone and it isn’t working. Even you said you saw all the discredited scientists and email scandal about their idiocy about climate change.

      • June 24, 2014 at 6:02 pm
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        Agent, let’s review what I actually said:

        “Agent, I saw the wingnuts go crazy, but they have yet to provide a solitary item from the stolen emails that remotely suggests data were falsified, nor points to any action that was unethical or improper. In fact, the scientists involved were cleared of any wrongdoing in *eleven* separate independent investigations. Nor have deniers been able to point to anything in those emails.

        Perhaps you can provide a quote from the emails that substantiates your accusation? Not that I’m holding my breath.”

        You have rapidly lost any credibility on this issue, and are just mindlessly repeating denialist talking points completely unencumbered by the thought process. When you make accusations but refuse over a long period of time to provide a solitary shred of evidence, you will find that people will no longer take you very seriously.



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