Insurance and Climate Change column

Is Climate Change Now Its Own Industry?

By | July 30, 2015

  • July 30, 2015 at 9:39 pm
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    • July 31, 2015 at 10:21 am
      David says:
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      The top 40 largest oil and gas companies alone made 5 trillion dollars last year, more than triple the amount of the entire climate change industry. Then there’s the refinery companies, the mining and manufacturing companies, the fossil fuel exploration and speculation firms, and the tens of thousands of lawyers and lobbyists working for them. Together, they’re orders of magnitude more powerful as a lobbying force than the climate change industry.

  • July 31, 2015 at 10:10 am
    Yogi Polar Berra says:
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    Is a Trillion dollar industry a significant, standalone industry?

    Does a wild polar bear poop on icebergs?

    • January 21, 2016 at 10:07 am
      Agent says:
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      Yogi, according to Al Gore, the polar caps would be gone by 2014. Where would the Polar Bear poop if there were no icebergs?

  • July 31, 2015 at 2:08 pm
    Dave says:
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    Any industry this size whose existance does not rely on a product or service fulfilling needs of consmers has an incredible incentive to justifuy their existance which is why I take whatever their spokespeople say or study they produce with a grain of salt.

    • July 31, 2015 at 2:34 pm
      Agent says:
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      Dave, the whole thing is geared toward generating carbon taxes. That is what leftists do, tax, tax and then tax some more.

      • July 31, 2015 at 4:35 pm
        Fact checker says:
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        There is no nationwide carbon tax levied in the United States

        • August 2, 2015 at 2:09 pm
          Dave says:
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          Not yet.

      • August 2, 2015 at 5:42 pm
        Agents Biggest Fan says:
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        Exactly! If only the socialist leftists could learn the ‘right’ way of doing things! Another upvote for you, Agent!

      • August 2, 2015 at 6:24 pm
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        I agree with Agent. it’s politics, not science, that drives that bus.

        • August 7, 2015 at 1:21 pm
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    • January 20, 2016 at 3:08 pm
      Agent says:
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      Dave, as if the fake Climate Scientists weren’t bad enough before, a new story came out today that a William Ruddiman, Climate Scientist from the University of Virginia is now blaming man who existed 7,000 years ago for starting Global Warming. It seems that men who lived back then burned trees to clear land for agriculture and they were responsible for stopping the natural cooling process. This is about as irresponsible as it gets.

  • July 31, 2015 at 2:20 pm
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    I would agree it is an “industry” just at there is the “panhandle industry” as a panhandler told a talk show host some years ago. Anytime one can take in $$$, they will make it big business as long as it will hit the emotions of some of the people wither it’s true or not. This is why fraud thrives.

  • July 31, 2015 at 2:35 pm
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    You people seem to believe there is a viable debate on anthropogenic climate change; that there are two equally reasonable viewpoints. That someone’s blog posting is of comparable weight and significance as a peer reviewed publication in a scholarly scientific journal.

    You apparently believe that 98% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences are conspiring to indoctrinate the public with some unsubstantiated theory whose real goal is to foster a dark left-wing agenda.

    When scientific research doesn’t support your personal beliefs or agenda, only a paranoid or willfully ignorant person concludes “science is wrong (and perhaps evil)”. This is true whether your personal agenda is “conservative” (e.g. climate change) or “liberal” (e.g. GMOs or vaccines). This kind of science-denial recalls the suppression of Galileo and Darwin by orthodox religous groups.

    • July 31, 2015 at 5:12 pm
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      Mr risk,

      Evolutionists still haven’t found the missing link. There is a reason why the theory of evolution is still a theory.

      Why is it that when science cannot substantiate obvious flaws in their theories that they simply ignore them?

      Absolute truth is right 100% of the time. Truth is not relative.

      • July 31, 2015 at 5:51 pm
        David says:
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        You’re too uninformed about science to even be talking about this subject. A theory in science means far more than an unproven guess that you’re making it out to be. You can start by reading this article on what scientists mean when they use the word theory.

        http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html

      • July 31, 2015 at 9:04 pm
        Don't Call Me Shirley says:
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        And pilots still haven’t been able to find the cloud that has the pearly gates on it.

        • July 31, 2015 at 9:06 pm
          Don't Call Me Shirley says:
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          And zoologists still haven’t been able to find a snake that can talk.

          • August 11, 2015 at 10:15 am
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            I know of two snakes that can talk. They are called Obama and Hilary.

    • July 31, 2015 at 5:18 pm
      integrity matters says:
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      In case you have missed it in other articles and posts, the climate changes. It always has and it always will.

      Man does not have the ability to change the climate, by accident or on purpose.

      If you believe in evolution, nature finds a way to survive. Yet, somehow you think nature can’t overcome global warming.

      Which is it? You can’t have it both ways.

      • July 31, 2015 at 5:41 pm
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        Speaking of missing links, the ironically named “integrity matters” is clearly not someone who could be persuaded by things like physics.

      • July 31, 2015 at 5:48 pm
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    • April 6, 2019 at 8:35 am
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      rnr_risk

      i urge you to read the report on the so called 97% consensus. as per “their” definition i belong to the 97% consensus even though i strongly disagree that human CO2 is the main cause of global warming…. because I DO BELIEVE THAT HUMANS CONTRIBUTE TO WARMING (where do you think the heat of your smartphone goes to?)… fore more detail read below

      But why do I write this and why do I care?
      1. Very simple. I care about the environment and our children, I believe humans do hurt the environment in too many ways. I believe our environment is changing and I know it is getting warmer (about 1 degree since industrial revolution during the past 200 years), however, I believe future slight warming is benign and overall positive for our planet. Today we are almost 8bln people while 100 years ago we were 2bln. It takes money and human resources to fight this negative impact we have on our planet. I know and very much support that the long-term future is all renewable (but wind is not the solution). Future renewable power will be an entirely new solar based technology, and to get there we need environmentally friendly large scale battery systems (which we unfortunately are nowhere near yet but technology is improving fast).
      2. The annual output of Tesla’s Gigafactory, the world’s largest battery factory, could store three minutes’ worth of annual U.S. electricity demand. It would require 1.000 years of production to make enough batteries for two days’ worth of U.S. electricity demand. Meanwhile, 50-100 pounds of materials are mined, moved, and processed for every pound of battery produced. Solar technologies have improved greatly and will continue to become cheaper and more efficient. But the era of 10-fold gains is over. The physics boundary for silicon photovoltaic (PV) cells, the Shockley-Queisser Limit, is a maximum conversion of 34% of photons into electrons; the best commercial PV technology today exceeds 26%. Wind power technology has also improved greatly, but here, too, no 10-fold gains are left. The physics boundary for a wind turbine, the Betz Limit, is a maximum capture of 60% of kinetic energy in moving air; commercial turbines today exceed 40%. We are decades away from the true “New Energy Revolution” and we need more base research to get there. Scientists have yet to discover, and entrepreneurs have yet to invent, anything as remarkable as hydrocarbons in terms of the combination of low-cost, high-energy density, stability, safety, and portability. Author and faculty fellow at Northwestern Mark Mills, The Manhattan Institute, summarized this subject very well.
      3. The billions and now soon trillions of USD spent on CO2 mitigation or “decarbonization” are probably the single biggest waste of tax payers’ financial resources ever in human history. This money is urgently needed to be spent on human waste removal (inc oceans), waste management, reducing air pollution, space junk removal, health care, energy efficiency, research in renewable and sustainable energy, fighting poverty – bringing affordable energy to the poor, education, spiritual development, and much more
      4. I believe focusing on reducing the CO2 content in the atmosphere does not only hurt our economy (Germany’s power prices are among the highest in the word; 2.5 to 4x above China/US, displacing industrial activity and jobs from the “West” to other nations) but it actually hurts our environment and plant life… this money is needed for impactful environmental protection that makes a positive difference… and this money is needed in the “East” to more efficiently and cleanly deal with fossils.
      5. Millions of truly environmentally caring people and billions of tax payers are misinformed and their personal energy and resources is wasted. They are made believe their money is spent on something that saves the planet and human kind from a boiling future. They are made believe that sea level rises are accelerating when in fact they are not accelerating at all, and in some cases land masses also fall and rise giving appearance of changes in sea levels. Maldives (which I love my grandchildren to see one day) is a great example
      6. I do not believe in a conspiracy but in a sort of self-enforcing trend of misinformation or missing information that really took off with the IPCC (a UN organization with its sole purpose to prove that human CO2 causes global warming – therefore an inherently biased organization). Today the industry and money behind decarbonization is so large that governments, banks, large organizations, etc cannot easily turn around unless tax payers object. On IPCC: Contrary to the Policy Summary written by IPCC officials interpreting scientists’ research, the IPCC Report Climate Change 2013 “The Physical Science Basis” written and documented by scientists details on page 235 (which hardly anyone reads) “There is limited evidence of changes in extremes associated with other climate variables since the mid-20th century”.
      7. Global climate is complex and yet very simple…. It changes all the time, mainly influenced by the sun. but greenhouse gases such as water vapor (biggest), CO2 and others also have an influence. A little known fact is that CO2’s heat absorption capacity diminishes logarithmically so that doubling of the CO2 content in the atmosphere from 0.04% to 0.08% (which would take probably 200 years) would add about 1 degree of warming and so on… not more.
      8. Anthropogenic CO2 has one very significant benefit that the public is not informed about… It greens the Earth and increases biomass which is much needed to feed our growing population and animal life. Manmade CO2 has added about 15% to global biomass alone in the past decades… so fossil power plants add far more biomass (indirectly trees) than activists are planting. Even NASA agrees. Just recently even the Davos World Economic Forum admitted the benefits of CO2, this is a big step in the right direction!
      9. The 97% consensus is bogus. As per “their” definition I also belong to the 97% because I do believe that humans have contributed to warming of our planet (where do you think does all our energy we produce and consume go to?… in form of heat it ends up in the biosphere/oceans or is emitted back to space). Please read the 97% consensus reports and educate yourself.
      However, today’s age of unlimited access to information is slowly changing the perception. More and more scientists are speaking out (even in the German Bundestag, see here from Nov 2018) and more and more information becomes available to the public. While some radical climate alarmists (and there are also many radical “deniers” that I don’t support) are trying to stop an honest scientific dispute, it is happening more and more. Please go to http://www.co2coalition.org to read more

  • August 3, 2015 at 8:01 pm
    S.G.Brown says:
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    Does anyone ever look at web sites like this one?
    http://iceagenow.info/
    Or this one:-
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/
    Guess not.
    There is no ‘Global Warming’.
    Yes, ther is Climate Change, change which is well within accepted climate parameters.

  • August 3, 2015 at 8:49 pm
    Roger Klein says:
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    No surprises here. Even when the first so-called “earth day” was “celebrated” in 1970, critics pointed out that April 22, 1970 just happened to be the 100th anniversary of Lenin’s birth. It’s no coincidence. The economic controls and restrictions that are placed on a society under the deceitful guise of “saving the planet” read like something out of the communist playbook. Wake up people, and realize what this “climate change” hoax is all about. For one thing, mankind doesn’t have the power to control the weather, nor can we stop volcanic eruptions or shoo hurricanes onto a different path. For crying out loud, if we can control storms, the how come there wasn’t a bunch of these environmental zealots and gaia worshippers in the path of Katrina doing their vibes and chants routine trying to divert it? Where were they when tornadoes tore through Tuscaloosa, Moore, OK, and south-central Missouri in recent years? Give me a break!! Shut up about this doom and gloom climate change bilge and start showing concern about something that’s really harmful to our nation’s future, like the hideous slaughter of the unborn, the continued accommodation of dangerous drug usage, and the erosion of our rights and freedoms!!

    • August 4, 2015 at 9:16 am
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    • August 4, 2015 at 10:06 am
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      You are right Roger. Global Warming/Climate Change advocates are all about control of the people which is the Socialists/Communists mantra. They want to carbon tax businesses and people out of existence. Just yesterday, the President came out with yet even harsher restrictions on power plants that produce our electricity. EPA is totally out of control and even want to stop people from having a back yard BBQ. Common Man!

      • August 4, 2015 at 10:28 am
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        A Pigovian tax, or Pigouvian tax, which is what carbon taxing would be if we had it in the USA, which we do not, is not Socialism or Communism.

        • August 4, 2015 at 12:53 pm
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          A Socialist has never seen a tax they don’t like. Just because we don’t have the tax yet doesn’t mean that the left does not want it and are working towards it every day of the week.

      • January 19, 2016 at 9:26 am
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        “The goal of Socialism is Communism” – Vladimir Lenin

    • August 4, 2015 at 2:36 pm
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      • August 4, 2015 at 4:38 pm
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        Shirley, it must be a sad existence for an Atheist like you. Every rant you make is against God and believers in the Creator.

        By the way, the crumbling infrastructure is the result of Progressive Socialism preached by your savior Obama. He said a large part of the “stimulus” was to go toward repairing infrastructure and “shovel ready” jobs. Whatever happened to those jobs that weren’t created and why wasn’t the infrastructure projects started and completed? The quick answer was that political donors got the proceeds from the taxpayers so they could donate more to the Democratic Party. Quite a scheme if I do say so.

        • August 4, 2015 at 4:51 pm
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          • August 5, 2015 at 7:54 am
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            Cuts both ways. 6 1/2 years in office and the man is still blaming Bush for everything and I’m certain once Iran gets and uses the Nuke they will get because of the agreement just signed he will blame whoever is in office at the time.

          • August 5, 2015 at 8:13 am
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            I get that Dave, and I agree Obama is doing a bad job.

            If Agent is going to blame Obama for having a D+ infrastructure on his watch, then Agent must also find equal blame on Bush for having the same score while he was President too.

          • August 5, 2015 at 10:18 am
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            I ask you again Devil, where did all that nearly trillion dollars go from the bogus stimulus if infrastructure was to be targeted? Perhaps people should be asking Joe Biden when he jumps into the race since he was put in charge of the funds to dispense for projects. That would be an interesting revelation and may rival some of their other scandals.

          • August 5, 2015 at 12:03 pm
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        • January 22, 2016 at 3:59 pm
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          Another good quote:

          “I believe that all forms of Socialism have been proven over time to result in a loss of both economic and civil liberties, with increasing poverty”. — John Mackey

    • January 19, 2016 at 9:29 am
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      Good one Roger. By the way, our detached, unconcerned President said he would send aid to Monroe, OK because the teleprompter told him so.

  • August 5, 2015 at 2:01 pm
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    • August 5, 2015 at 4:32 pm
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      I knew you would have to jump in with your long winded explanation Rosenblatt. You put Bob to shame. So, if this has all been done, how come Obama still gets a failing grade for infrastructure? He, himself said that there was no shovel ready jobs created by the Stimulus. $27.2 billion for Green Energy Loans? Gee, it is even worse than I thought on all those belly up companies like Solyndra and numerous others. Do you think there may have been some graft and corruption with a bill this size? Where were the jobs created at? All this bill created was more massive debt by the Federal Government.

      • August 5, 2015 at 4:59 pm
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        • August 5, 2015 at 5:34 pm
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          Ok, how about answering me about your position on Planned Parenthood 5 videos later with each one worse than the prior? Are you with the leftists who continue to say they are fine or are you with those of us that want them stripped of federal funding and the ringleaders of this terrible organization prosecuted?

          • August 10, 2015 at 5:30 pm
            Agent says:
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            Rosenblatt, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

        • September 30, 2015 at 12:21 pm
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          You missed one. Obama said there was $40billion that,

          “I can Not say where it went”

          ???? can not or will not?? hard to tell…
          I remember a young man that ran a small NGO nonprofit bragged he had $250million to use to push the AGW meme back in 2010. I often wondered how he could get that kind of money when The Red Cross claimed their funds received for that year was $90million…pg

  • January 16, 2016 at 9:07 pm
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    Climate Change Now Its Own Industry? Ask the lobbyists on K street.

  • April 23, 2019 at 11:55 pm
    Dave Burton says:
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    It’s worth noting that the Climate Change Industry is now comparable in size to the global oil industry, and it dwarfs the much-maligned coal industry. But Big Oil industry succeeds by meeting real needs. Big Climate is a parasitic “crony capitalist” industry, dependent on government coercion.

    I wonder if I can post a cartoon?
    https://sealevel.info/1.5_Trillion_Dollar_Piggy_based_on_1885_Bengough_cartoon2_150pct_825x618.png



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