Why Millennials’ Credit Scores Are So Low

By Bobbi Rebell | September 3, 2015

  • September 3, 2015 at 10:07 am
    Agent says:
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    Comment removed for impersonation.

    • September 3, 2015 at 11:11 am
      David says:
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      If I recall correctly Agent, you’re a baby boomer. If so, you come from the greediest most entitled generation in American history. Boomers enjoyed all of the economic prosperity of the post-WWII world and then squandered it all to feed their endless consumption and bloodlust.

      They are responsible for sending off millions of good jobs overseas, so that third-world sweatshops could produce cheap consumer goods for pennies on the dollar of what American workers made. They dismantled and defunded the social safety net so that they could turn around and spend the money on endless war and tax cuts for the wealthy and big business. Boomers made college education and healthcare virtually unaffordable unless you take on crippling amounts of debt. They bought houses they couldn’t afford and caused a bubble that devastated the world’s economy.

      Sitting around chastising millennials after screwing them out of everything you were handed on a silver platter by the Greatest Generation is beyond the pale. Millenials are avoiding credit cards exactly because they saw their Boomer parents and grandparents spend themselves into bankruptcy. They have to go into 5 and 6 figure debt just to get a college education, when all Boomers had to do to pay for college was work a summer job.

      • September 3, 2015 at 11:19 am
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        This is probably the first time I’ve ever come to Agent’s defense, but I’m not entirely sure that was really him who just posted.

        • September 3, 2015 at 11:39 am
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          He’s made plenty of disparaging posts about young people on other articles. This post seems perfectly in line with his thoughts.

          • September 3, 2015 at 12:10 pm
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            Oh, I 100% agree with you, David. Agent has made disparaging remarks about nearly anyone who doesn’t agree with every one of his “facts” and/or his Conservative viewpoints. I am certainly not Agent’s biggest fan (quite the opposite, actually), but it just didn’t read like one of his posts with the “Even though I had a hand in helping to raise them and made them the way they are” line thrown in there. Just feel it in my gut that it wasn’t really him, but I could certainly be wrong.

        • September 3, 2015 at 2:23 pm
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          Rosenblatt, you would be entirely correct that it was not me that posted. It has got to be the troublemakers Confused, Ins102 or Planet. They are the premier moniker thieves and it gets very old. I will put in another complaint notice to IJ until something gets done about it. David is not much better and is quick to jump all over what I allegedly said. This is terrible behavior and no place on this forum.

          • September 3, 2015 at 2:51 pm
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            Stop the presses – did Agent really just say, in no uncertain terms, that I was actually right about something? The underworld must have just frozen over!

          • September 3, 2015 at 3:10 pm
            Agent says:
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            Rosenblatt, yes you finally said something that was right about your leftist troll friends. How about you calling out these trolls and condemn them for doing this? Do you have the guts to do that or are you afraid they won’t like you anymore? I want to see it in print. I may have to wait until the underworld freezes over.

          • September 3, 2015 at 3:54 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            I will gladly call out whomever posted as “Agent” above and was pretending to be you, and I’ll tell them in no uncertain terms that they are being very childish and they should stop.

            Unfortunately, I can’t say which individual made those posts. I don’t see an IP address to search nor can I tell from the style of the post who really wrote it.

            If you have tangible evidence as to who made those posts, let me know and I’ll admonish them by name in an instant.

          • September 3, 2015 at 4:04 pm
            Agent says:
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            Rosenblatt, don’t worry about tracking the moniker thieves. I have the geek at IJ tracking it and hopefully something will happen soon on that front. Have you also noticed that when UW comments, he uses the most foul language possible and swears on almost every post. He could be the culprit as well.

            By the way, did you see where Brady beat the NFL in court and got that suspension lifted? I always thought the penalty was too harsh since it was for a quarter of the season. He may have lived with a one game suspension and a hefty fine, but Goodell overreached and tried to make an example of Brady. Why did he not go after Rodgers for overinflating the ball in his games? Perhaps he just had a vendetta against the Patriots due to prior incidents with their coach. Goodell is not a good commissioner and should seek other employment.

          • September 3, 2015 at 4:14 pm
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            It’s not just one person who is uses vulgar profanity – UW and Bob are both guilty of that.

            As for Brady – I know. I read the judge’s 40 page decision. I agree with you that Brady would’ve taken a 1-game suspension, but the NFL would’ve required that Brady admits the Wells report findings were right. Know why Brady didn’t accept? If he did, he’d be tried for perjury because of his comments under oath during the appeal where he denied all the accusations in the Wells report.

            Rodgers didn’t get anything because his remark was made in a post-game interview and he said the over-inflation he tries to get away with happens before the ref’s measure the air pressure in the balls. Technically, if Rodgers ever played with over-inflated balls, it’s the ref’s fault for not catching it before the game.

          • September 3, 2015 at 4:54 pm
            Agent says:
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            Rosenblatt, since you will never know the moniker names of those responsible for this idiocy, I would settle for a general statement like this:

            Anyone responsible for moniker theft using Agent’s moniker to post trash on this forum should be ashamed of yourselves. Knock it off immediately! Rosenblatt

      • September 3, 2015 at 11:40 am
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        David, good points, but I got the sense that it was the Gen X group that participated pretty heavily in the last housing bubble.

        • September 3, 2015 at 4:49 pm
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          Rosenblatt, it was also the refs fault for not catching the underinflated balls before and during the Indy game. The irony is that it wouldn’t have made any difference since the Pats kicked butt in all phases of that game. Refs on the field and on the sideline have to handle the ball before every snap. Hey, something doesn’t feel right with this ball, throw it out. Oops, the next one is the same. Let’s just let this go or we will be out here all night.

          • September 3, 2015 at 4:55 pm
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            Disagree Agent – nobody, not the ref’s, nor any past or present QB who has made a statement in this debacle could simply pick up a football and say “yeah, this is 2 PSI low, it’s at 10.5 not 12.5”

            2 PSI difference is basically the same as one sheet of regular paper.

            If I give you a stack to pick up, no way could you tell me if there are 50 pages or 51 pages.

          • September 3, 2015 at 5:20 pm
            Agent says:
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            Disagree Rosenblatt. Professionals can tell the difference in a ball they are playing with by holding and gripping it. Did you know that Professional golfers can tell the difference in the grip of a golf club down to the micron? They usually have it changed out if the size doesn’t fit right. Arnold Palmer used to re-grip his clubs more than once a tournament if it didn’t feel right to him. The hands are very sensitive to changes in feel.

          • September 4, 2015 at 9:05 am
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            “Professionals can tell the difference in a ball they are playing with by holding and gripping it”

            Says who? Current and former NFL quarterbacks have said they can’t tell the difference between a football with 10psi and one with 12psi. I believe what they’ve said more than your unsubstantiated theory.

            PS – no way can anyone tell a one micron difference. That’s 100 times smaller than one grain of sand and can’t even be seen unless viewed under a microscope.

            “There are 25,4000 microns in one inch. 40 µm is visible to the naked eye. 5 µm can be felt with the fingertip. 0.5 µm is visible with a microscope. A grain of beach sand is from 100 to 2000 µm. A mold spore is 10 to 30 µm. Tobacco smoke is from 0.01 to 1 µm.”

          • September 8, 2015 at 10:14 am
            Agent says:
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            Rosenblatt, you would argue with a fence post, wouldn’t you? Perhaps you should listen to professional athletes more instead of Googling to find an arguing point. Professional golfers, tennis players can tell if their equipment is microscopically off in weight, grip size and they will quickly change it out until they get it right.

          • September 8, 2015 at 11:17 am
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            “Perhaps you should listen to professional athletes” – okay, Agent, please tell me with a link or specifics (like someone’s name) who said they can tell a one-micron difference by touch.

            I’ll wait until you can back up your statement with facts.

            Who exactly said they can tell a one-micron difference by touch? Please provide a name so I can listen to a professional athlete as you claim I should do.

      • September 3, 2015 at 1:12 pm
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        David, I sincerely thank you for informing Agent of his ignorance. I was going to reply with a VERY similar response. He is the classic example of an ignorant old man shaking his fist at the younger generations screaming “back in my day…” No, Agent. Back in your day you had it fantastic. Your generation was in charge creating the problems we have today. Thanks a lot.

      • September 3, 2015 at 1:53 pm
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        Agent is on the golf course.

        • September 3, 2015 at 2:28 pm
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          FFA, did you really say that about me or was it the now infamous trolls impersonating you? By the time I got back from an appointment with a very large insured of mine, look at what I saw. Troll attacks galore. By the way, I play golf on weekends, not during the week.

          • September 3, 2015 at 3:41 pm
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            Yes Agent. That was me. I am sitting in my office wishing I was (golfing or boating)not here. We usually think alike on 99% of everything so Golf wasn’t that far of a stretch. My big apt is coming in late – $100,000 single premium life policy (I hope). two very large houses and a whole lot of toys…

          • September 3, 2015 at 4:09 pm
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            FFA, who do you use for very large homes up there? Do you have access to Chubb? Most of our carriers have some issues with values over $1.5 million. They don’t like the wind & hail exposure on large roofs down here. Must be Global Warming scaring them, right?

          • September 4, 2015 at 10:39 am
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            I do have access to Chubb. Their rates in this neck of the woods is out of this world high. I have a regional that you cant get to but I have also used Travelers High Value with the Cash Out option. Travelers – believe it or not – is way better rate wise then Chubb is.

      • September 3, 2015 at 6:06 pm
        Agent says:
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        David, did you change your name from Stan to David? You sound an awful lot like him with your Socialist demeaning rhetoric and unfounded criticisms. He was blaming everyone but himself for his lack of a good job and was extremely critical of employers not hiring him and starting him off at the top with his three degrees. Actually, his attitude was what was holding him back. I suspect that is what is holding you back as well assuming you are David and not Stan.

        • September 3, 2015 at 8:00 pm
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          No, I am my own man. And you are an out of touch, bitter old man. “Socialist demeaning rhetoric?” What is this, the 1950’s? The US is a socialist country, like it or leave it. I see you blaming liberals and young people for all of the woes facing our country all the time on here. Where’s your personal responsibility? Your attitude is no better.

          • September 4, 2015 at 3:34 pm
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            Spoken almost identical to the Stan we have always known and detested for his nasty rhetoric. If you are not Stan, I would think you are a close relative or went to school with him being brainwashed by liberal professors.

            I agree with you that your President has done great harm to this country, divided the citizens by race, gender and economic status. That is due to change in about 18 months when the new Republican President is sworn in. No, it won’t be Hilliary or Bernie, your hero’s.

          • September 4, 2015 at 4:32 pm
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            as long as he is not pretending to post as agent, why do you care?

        • September 4, 2015 at 3:41 pm
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          FFA, I will leave you for the week with some charming statistics taken from an article through cnsnews.com. It is appropriate for Labor Day. We now have a record 94,031,000 Americans not in the labor force stuck on a 38 year low. The 157,065,000 who participated in the workforce equaled only 62.6% of the 251,096,000 civilian non-institutional population. Not since Jimmy Carter in 1977 has it been this low. How many recovery summers have we had now, 6 or 7? What is wrong with this picture? Surely, this can’t still be Bush’s fault at this stage.

      • September 4, 2015 at 1:28 pm
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        David,
        Spot on, brother. Most Millennials are seeing the light. Hopefully they will help us get away from the 35+ years of Reaganism which continues to destruct this once great nation.

      • September 4, 2015 at 9:02 pm
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        You are right about that generation. They inherited a great situation, embraced “greed is good”, and left a terrible situation. They had a relatively short, not very severe downturn in the early 80’s, and early ’90’s with booms in between, including the tech boom, which allowed them to significantly increase their salaries and investments in the prime of their working lives.

        They made it so even a family can barely afford to live, when they could live off 1 income most of their lives, they gleefully destroyed unions, outsourced jobs, and made education entirely unaffordable. Now they complain and call Millenials lazy when they aren’t head-over-heals about taking a job with them for no money, no benefits, and no retirement, after most likely already volunteering there and allowing the company to profit off their work as an intern.

        That generation is far-and-away the Worst Generation in modern times.

  • September 3, 2015 at 11:50 am
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    Or maybe, creditors will have to adjust and realize a healthy credit score is just no longer a definitive descriptor as it has been historical used.

    • September 3, 2015 at 2:19 pm
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      Agree, and not just creditors, but insurance companies, employers,
      landlords, etc. All this reliance on credit score is the real problem. Like your character is in question if you don’t borrow money !!! I pictured steam coming out of Dave Ramsey’s ears as I read this article. Of course, he is a multimillionaire with a credit score of 0.

      • September 4, 2015 at 9:08 pm
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        The vast majority of landlords are nowhere near competent to analyze a credit report. I refuse to do it when I rent, instead I offer to let them ask my last landlord. Rent isn’t included in your credit report unless you pay late, so 20 years of timely payments count for less than 1 late payment that is reported.

  • September 3, 2015 at 1:42 pm
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    FICO and other scores are a measure of your interaction with Debt. The older generation prioritized gratification and financing things but became slaves to debt. I sense this generation wants to reduce the “obligation” and “burdens” that come with monthly payments. We definitely want nice stuff but so many of our parents and other role models were burned by financing the American dream.

    I can wait to accumulate the strappings of success. I have less obligations so I am more free to enjoy my life. Stuff doesn’t make me who I am.

    I am a millennial, I own a PC insurance agency and we advocate for our customers to enjoy High Quality of Life, Sustainable Life choices and career choices and Financial Independence.

    We coach our customers on getting out of debt, and paying cash for things like cars, and stuff, etc.

    We are celebrating paid of home mortgages before 40 years old, reliable used cars, cash in the bank, etc.

    If my reduced trade lines reduce my credit score – so what, I don’t need to finance anything anytime soon…

    TJL

    • September 3, 2015 at 2:35 pm
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      Tim, please advise what you consider the older generation who has mortgaged themselves to be slaves of debt. Are you including people in their 40’s to 50’s? They seem to be the ones who have to have all the toys and they are the ones trying to put their kids through college. By the way, I insure a number of insureds in their late 50’s or 60’s and some in their early 70’s and a high percent of them are debt free. They are penalized on the credit score by companies so they end up paying a higher premium than they should because they are smart with their money. That is one of the great fallacies of credit scoring in insurance.

    • September 3, 2015 at 2:59 pm
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      Nicely said, Tim. I definitely agree with your main point that a low credit score shouldn’t be a sole indicator of fiscal responsibility because there are people who willingly do not take on debt in the first place, as opposed to those with a low score because they can’t manage their debt.

    • September 3, 2015 at 4:10 pm
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      Tim, not all of the “older generation” have enslaved themselves to debt. The first condo I bought I put 20% down on and paid off early. The second condo I bought I put down 23%, refinanced with a 15 year mortgage and paid off that early. I’ve paid cash for the past 4 cars I’ve owned. I have no debt other than what is carried on my credit cards which are paid off in full each month. I have always lived within my means saving at least 10% when I was younger and poorer and as my salary and bonuses have increased have saved even more to the level of 50% of my afetr tax earnings. Don’t throw all of us older folk in the instant gratification and huge debt bucket. As for you, it sounds as though you are wise beyond your age. Good for that and continued success to you.

  • September 3, 2015 at 1:50 pm
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    Seems to me that we are all guilty in painting with a broad brush.

    • September 4, 2015 at 9:12 pm
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      When you are talking about a whole generation by definition you have to paint with a wide brush. That isn’t the problem; the problem is when somebody chimes in with meaningless anecdotal evidence about a couple of their clients which didn’t do what the rest of society did.

  • September 3, 2015 at 2:23 pm
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    You know, we are all guilty of blaming others. There are good and bad people as well as smart and not so smart people in all age groups.

    It is important that we all take responsibility for our actions. I am a boomer with no debt outside of home and car.

    I use my charge cards to keep them active and monitor my money. I pay the bill every month. If I can’t afford to pay the charge bill I don’t buy until I can afford it. Can’t tell you the last time I paid charge card interest.

    So, having a charge card or mortgage isn’t bad, you just need to live within your means and not get over your head.

    • September 3, 2015 at 2:38 pm
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      Vickie, nothing wrong with having a gas card and a couple of credit cards that you pay off each month. Hotels for travel, eating out or even buying some incidentals like clothes etc. People paying the minimum payment each month are getting soaked on interest. That is an expensive way to live.

  • September 3, 2015 at 5:01 pm
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    Agent — did you even bother to read my post where I said, “I’ll tell them in no uncertain terms that they are being very childish and they should stop.”

    Soooooooo, I already did what you’re asking me to do, yes? You wanted me to say they should be ashamed of themselves and to knock it off, and I said they are being childish and they should stop.

    What’s the difference between what I already said and what you’re asking me to say now?? Please remember I am NOT the IJ police. You lit into me about that in the past, so there’s no way am I going to start that up again.

    • September 3, 2015 at 5:31 pm
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      Rosenblatt, why are you trying to sidestep this issue? You said you “would” tell them in no uncertain terms that they were being childish and they should stop. Now is a good time to do it for real. Don’t wait or sidestep or you will look insincere. I am not interested in what you would say or do, just what you will do now.

      These guys are low lifes. I can’t believe they actually have jobs in this industry.

      • September 4, 2015 at 8:01 am
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        Agent,

        Do you honestly believe that if Rosenblatt does what you say, those idiots will stop impersonating you? They are doing it to antagonize you, not to please Rosenblatt.

        I believe Rosenblatt has done more than enough already.

        • September 4, 2015 at 9:44 am
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          Ron, I don’t think Rosenblatt won’t do it, I know he won’t. He is a word parser and is insincere. That is why he has little credibility on this forum. How about you issuing a statement to the idiots to knock off the nonsense of moniker theft? Think you can do that or are you of the same persuasion?

          • September 4, 2015 at 10:10 am
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            Agent,

            My point was not whether or not Rosenblatt will do anything. It was that it will not fix anything.

          • September 4, 2015 at 12:25 pm
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            i did what you “knew” i wouldn’t do, which i had already done twice by the way, and i’ve NEVER been insincere to anyone on this site. stop trolling chief, it’s unbecoming of you

      • September 4, 2015 at 9:48 am
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        I’m not sidestepping the issue, Agent. I’ve already said (twice now) that whomever posted under your name is childish and they need to stop.

      • September 4, 2015 at 9:14 pm
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        ” I can’t believe they actually have jobs in this industry.”

        Ha ha ha. From the fucking idiot who is wrong about at least 99% of the stuff he spouts off about. I cannot believe you have a job in ANY industry.

  • September 4, 2015 at 10:08 am
    Ron says:
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    Anybody who steals Agent’s moniker in order to impersonate Agent is an idiot and must cease and desist immediately!!!!

    Ron has spoken.

    Happy now Agent?

    • September 4, 2015 at 11:20 am
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      I agree with your statement, Ron

    • September 4, 2015 at 11:36 am
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      Good for you Ron. That only took a half dozen posts to get it taken care of. Have a great Labor Day this weekend. I even hope your Bills have a great season and make the playoffs this year.

      • September 4, 2015 at 11:44 am
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        Agent,

        Now you know how we feel when you refuse to answer our questions to you and we have to ask multiple times. At least you got what you wanted. How about some reciprocity in the future?

        I hope you also have a great Labor Day weekend and best wishes to the Cowboys.

        For the record, I am glad the Brady suspension was overturned. If he did not play Week 2, and the Bills won, it would not have felt like a victory to me.

        • September 4, 2015 at 12:43 pm
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          Ron, if you ask me a loaded Progressive leaning question, you will not get the answer you are looking for. Sorry, I have no sympathy for the liberal standpoint, never have, never will. Ask your questions to Rosenblatt, David, Celtica, UW and they may just agree with you. Be prepared for ugly language with UW. He leads the Journal with nasty language.

          • September 4, 2015 at 12:55 pm
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            Agent,

            Fair enough. However, who determines whether or not a question is a loaded Progressive leaning question? You? I have answered many, if not all, of your loaded Conservative leaning questions.

            My questions to you are usually requesting clarification of a statement you made. Why would I ask anyone else to clarify your statement? I though you were against people impersonating you.

          • September 4, 2015 at 3:02 pm
            Agent says:
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            Ron, for someone who admitted they couldn’t tell the troll’s posts under my moniker name, you take the cake. Even Rosenblatt could tell that it was someone else. Both of us have answered questions. We just agreed to disagree since we have very different viewpoints. Bob has taken you to task on your statements and wishy washy answers about being a moderate and then advocating for Universal Healthcare which is as Progressive Leftist as can be.

          • September 4, 2015 at 9:16 pm
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            Translation; If you ask me a question that goes against the incorrect, biased decision I decided before the program was even rolled out, I will ignore you.

            This bullshit “logic,” and I use that term very loosely with you, probably explains your incoherent, delusional, completely false climate change rants.

        • September 4, 2015 at 4:31 pm
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          For the record Ron, are the Bills playing the Pats at home or away? I think they would have a very hard time beating Brady in Foxboro, but home may be a different story. The Pats did have some early season trouble last year until they got their act together. Do you reckon the NFL will have some officials around the ball bag this year? I think they will be thick as locusts.

          • September 4, 2015 at 4:36 pm
            confused says:
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            you don’t know if the pats v bills game is in mass or new york? was your google broken?

  • September 4, 2015 at 11:26 am
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    My guess is that even 60 years ago, younger people as a group had lower credit scores than the older generation. Not sure if you can blame a generation born during a certain period for that rather than the maturity process we all go through.

    I remember being a very small child in the sixties and older people were extremely critical of young adults back then. Fifty years from now, some of our grandchildren will be critical of the younger generation.

    • September 4, 2015 at 11:40 am
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      Observor, it is true 60 years ago, younger people had lower credit scores than the older generation. Insurance credit score rating was not around back then to affect rating of Auto policies. That is a recent phenomenon and the computer age has put so many factors into rating these days that it is almost impossible to predict what the final rate is going to be on any given client.

      • September 4, 2015 at 9:31 pm
        UW says:
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        How would you predict that? I mean you personally, somebody who has claimed that the Farmer’s Almanac is more accurate than climate models (it’s not, it’s been studied extensively, and is less accurate than flipping a coin, while mathematical models have been extremely accurate); that humans have no influence on the climate; that the climate isn’t even warming, that actuaries and “egg heads” have no idea what they are doing and do nothing but find ways to increase rates (ignoring all the times rates have decreased); that car companies putting out defective cars and then lying about it is the fault of labor unions and somehow not the fault of the non-union executives who actually lied about it; and about 1000 moronic comments about Millenials, which can best be summed up as “Get off my lawn you young punks”?

        You barely function in reality, and I think it’s debatable whether a psychiatric analysis would even find you sane.

        I do agree with you that for you it’s almost impossible to predict the final rate is going to be for a client, because you are nowhere near competent to do so.

  • September 4, 2015 at 12:54 pm
    NotBuyingIt says:
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    The big scam… pay an extra 15% for everything so you can have a “good” credit score. Save your 15%, put it in savings, and when you show up to buy your house / car with 20 to 50% down, you will get the loan. Oh, and you won’t be a slave to card payments in constant fear of living paycheck to paycheck. I wish we had been taught the truth in high school so I wouldn’t have learned after racking up the average $30000+ in cc debt myself.

    • September 4, 2015 at 3:06 pm
      Agent says:
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      Hey Not, if you have $30,000 credit card debt, you have no one to blame but yourself. You are getting ripped off by paying the minimum due each month and you will owe your soul to the credit card store for the rest of your life unless you get rid of it.

  • September 4, 2015 at 3:57 pm
    lonestar says:
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    I think we would all be better served if all of those arguing on this forum would quick pulling each other’s ponytails, put on your big girl panties, and each leave the playground for the day…

    • September 4, 2015 at 4:28 pm
      Agent says:
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      Hey lonestar, if you had your moniker stolen and trash posted under it for the last 3 years, you might not have such a cavalier attitude. We would be better served if all these northern trolls from the left would exit the IJ forum for good, not just for the day.

    • September 4, 2015 at 4:39 pm
      Rosenblatt says:
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      lonestar – If you’re including me there, okay, no problem. I’ll stop. I hope everyone enjoys their weekend! Take care!

      • September 8, 2015 at 12:50 pm
        Agent says:
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        You are right Rosenblatt, you didn’t know that. As someone who has been an avid golfer for 35 years and play to a single digit handicap, I do know it and have watched numerous interviews with PGA Tour players talk about their equipment from swing weight, shaft, grip. They are very exacting on their specs for clubs. Perhaps you should subscribe to Golf Digest. They have a player and his clubs in every month’s magazine and the player describes in detail what and why they are playing everything from driver clear down to the putter and ball. If you are not a golfer and don’t follow the game and the PGA Tour, no amount of explanation will do you any good. Trust me Rosenblatt, you don’t want to keep arguing with me about Golf.

        • September 8, 2015 at 2:06 pm
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          I am not arguing golf with you Agent, I am merely seeking clarification that will support your statements.

          “Did you know that Professional golfers can tell the difference in the grip of a golf club down to the micron” then “Perhaps you should listen to professional athletes more”

          Simple question: can you tell me the name of ONE golfer who has unequivocally said they can feel the difference in their equipment in microns? Give me the name of the golfer and I will agree with your statement. If you can’t tell me who has actually said that, your statement is merely conjecture.

        • September 8, 2015 at 2:29 pm
          Agent says:
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          Rosenblatt, you are word parsing again which is not endearing your comments to me. “Forget microns”!. How about the thickness of one wrap of tape that goes under a golf grip? That is the thickness of a sheet of paper and yes they can tell the difference if it is one wrap or two. Call it what you like, but they can feel the difference.

          I don’t do conjecture. I subscribe to two golf magazines for years, have Golf Channel, watch all the tournaments all year along and see plenty of interviews with players on the range and after rounds so you will have to accept my analysis or just tell me you don’t believe it and we can go our separate ways.

          • September 8, 2015 at 3:03 pm
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            “Forget microns”! No. You said golfers can tell the difference in microns, and that’s the point I have challenged you to prove.

            The micron point is the heart of our Deflategate discussion as I disagreed with you that ‘the ref’s should’ve known the balls were deflated just by how they felt’

            Care to man-up and admit you were wrong when you wrote “Professional golfers can tell the difference in the grip of a golf club down to the micron”?

            I’ll even give you this: had you written that without saying ‘micron’ you’d be right, but since you did write micron, that statement is actually false. Can you agree with me on that? A simple reply of “yes” means you agree and then we can be done here.

          • September 8, 2015 at 3:40 pm
            Agent says:
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            Rosenblatt, the word parser in chief. Sorry if I used the wrong word with you describing the minute details of what professional athletes already know about their equipment. They do it by feel and do not use Google to tell them the difference. By the way, the others on the blog did not object, why you? That is because you like to argue on any subject at any time. Go away! You are too annoying and by the way, you still did not admonish the moniker thieves verbally. All I could get was that you agreed with Ron. At least he did it and you didn’t.

          • September 8, 2015 at 4:20 pm
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            I don’t like to argue with you, I find it necessary. I ask you to clarify what you say and/or request you provide actual evidence to support what you write because you consistently post a seemingly endless supply of asinine comments.

            Stop posting lies and theories-masquerading-as-facts and I’ll have no reason to call out your BS.

            All that said, I will not feed the hypocritical troll anymore right now. I say good day to you, sir.

  • September 8, 2015 at 11:27 am
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    I’ll start a fresh thread right here for you Agent so you can hit the correct ‘reply’ button. You wrote “Did you know that Professional golfers can tell the difference in the grip of a golf club down to the micron?”

    A: No, I did not know that!

    You also wrote “Perhaps you should listen to professional athletes more instead of Googling to find an arguing point.”

    Since you don’t want me using google to argue this point, please enlighten me — which golfer said that? Was it in an article somewhere? Which magazine? What date? I’m all ears…



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