Wow, the $700 million lawsuit settled last year is not enough. What about assumption of risk in a contract they signed? If you don’t want to have a concussion from playing, don’t sign the contract. You can then find other employment.
says the desk jockey insurance guy that probably couldnt look at a flight of stairs without having a severe heart attack.
the NFL actively and knowingly misled players and withheld this critical medical information from them.
if youre a young guy from an incredibly poor background, but you have the talent to make it to the big time, you are absolutely going to view the NFL as a way out, and the NFL did everything it could to manipulate and take advantage of that, and when the risks of concussions were starting to become known, the NFL downplayed it to the point of gross negligence for the sake of their own product. there’s a level of faith put in the employer in this case, and when you have team doctor’s telling guys that “it’s fine to go back out there”, why would a player ever question that?
they could give a flying crap about player safety, and given that without the players, you would have no product in the first place, its nothing short of disgusting, and for their complicity and neglience, they should absolutely be forced to pay.
Says the resident Commie on this site. You would probably favor flag football for the NFL or no professional sports at all. How about we re-institute leather helmets with no face guards like they had when the league started. Haven’t read about any of the former stars in that era suing for head injuries. It is also about coaching and coaches teaching improper tackling techniques to take another player out. By the way, you are on the borderline of IJ insulting behavior that has been banned on this site.
December 1, 2016 at 10:17 am
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“leather helmets…Haven’t read about any of the former stars in that era suing for head injuries.”
That’s because they’re all dead & can’t sue from 6 feet under!
December 1, 2016 at 9:07 am
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Again- its not about ‘a head injury’ its about a disease of the brain brought about by repeated head injuries. Up until recently people thought there were such things as ‘mild concussions’ or ‘having their bell rung’ no one was being taught that repeated trauma would result in CTE.
Confused, you remain confused. Bob has a big job ahead of him. The reason why old time players didn’t sue when they were alive is that they didn’t have head injuries because they didn’t lead with their head when tackling. They were smart and knew the protection wasn’t there. Pictures I have seen of them did reveal some teeth missing, but that was about it.
November 30, 2016 at 2:46 pm
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If this were successful, wouldn’t it open up all injuries to WC? That would kill all contact sports.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that large, fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will not result in head injuries. College ball now has targeting rules and if the review shows the offender spearing with his helmet, he is ejected and has to sit out a portion of the next game. Perhaps the NFL should adopt that rule and take away a game check and that would do some good.
Hasn’t Bob been working with you Confused about insulting behavior? Apparently, you haven’t learned much recently. By the way, I know you have a short attention span or you wouldn’t have to keep repeating what other people say to form a post. Was there a point to your diatribe?
Yes, there was a point. That’s why I asked you a question.
Again, did you make a typo in that sentence or are you REALLY saying athletes running into each other will NOT result in head injuries?
December 1, 2016 at 3:11 pm
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Confused, as the warden said in the movie – Cool Hand Luke – what we have here is a failure to communicate. Do you have dyslexia and automatically read everything I say backward or just put your own spin on it.
December 1, 2016 at 3:38 pm
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Neither. I am asking you what you really meant!
“It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that large, fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will not result in head injuries.”
Did you make a typo or is that really what you meant to say?
December 1, 2016 at 5:07 pm
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Good job down voting me young troll while up voting yourself. Bob has so much work to do. Will he keep trying?
December 2, 2016 at 7:58 am
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1) I do not vote up or down on this site.
2) When you wrote “It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that large, fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will not result in head injuries.”
Did you make a typo or is that really what you meant to say?
December 2, 2016 at 3:15 pm
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Agent, don’t insult a person’s reading and intelligence and then end a question with a period. Maybe the failure to communicate is caused by your 5th grade education and lack of intelligence? Beg for Bob to come debate for you
December 2, 2016 at 3:30 pm
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Actu – what gets me is not that Agent may have made a typo which he rails on others for doing – see Dolfin vs Dolphin when it’s clear those words mean the same thing, it’s how his sentence drastically changes with one word added or removed.
fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will not result in head injuries
is TOTALLY different than
fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will result in head injuries.
Now he could admit he made a typo and meant the latter, but instead he avoids the question and insults me.
So Agent – what were you trying to say? Did you make an honest mistake and type “not” in there by accident, or are you really trying to say what you literally wrote?
December 1, 2016 at 9:05 am
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Head Injuries- yes.
CTE? No… it was a completely undiagnosed condition that no athlete was aware of as a potential life altering / ending illness
I’m surprised this suit was brought in Florida. Workers’ Comp is the exclusive remedy for all on the job injuries except for professional athletes UNLESS their employer voluntarily covers them for WC. As a 20+ year arbitrator for the NFL management council and the Players assn. involving Miami Dolfin players, I can tell you that the Dolfins are probably the only team that has not ‘purchased’ a work comp policy. Instead the Dolfin players have to use Arbitration via an implementation agreement signed many years ago. Maybe that’s why no Dolfins are on the list of players. There is no reason why Dolfin players can’t file for WC benefits under Florida law and have their cases heard by an arbitrator. In addition, when issues have arisen in the past that are common to many players, such as the compensability of CTE, the arbitrators have heard those matters in a three arbitrator panel and decided the issues in that fashion. Unless there is proof that will fit the Florida definition of ‘intentional injury'(highly unlikely), not covered by WC, I see the Federal suit being dimissed.
Intentional injury seems easy since the NFL knew about it, lied, attacked doctors who put out studies, and eveb created fake studies to make players and the public think it was not a danger.
If professional athletes are employees why should they be allowed to earn income from other deals?.
You don’t see IRS agents with sponsorship logo from tax filings agencies or the list could go on and on.
Having pro athletes in the same workers comp as a fast food employee expecting WC to pick up half
The person income surely it not in the best interest of all when a injury occurs.
If the person can not work or talk due to a head injury are WC going to hand out half the income the player would have earned?
So if they get permanent disability it would be like $600 a week?
That would depend on what state they’re in.
Wow, the $700 million lawsuit settled last year is not enough. What about assumption of risk in a contract they signed? If you don’t want to have a concussion from playing, don’t sign the contract. You can then find other employment.
The risks weren’t known until recently. Its no different than working with Asbestos…
says the desk jockey insurance guy that probably couldnt look at a flight of stairs without having a severe heart attack.
the NFL actively and knowingly misled players and withheld this critical medical information from them.
if youre a young guy from an incredibly poor background, but you have the talent to make it to the big time, you are absolutely going to view the NFL as a way out, and the NFL did everything it could to manipulate and take advantage of that, and when the risks of concussions were starting to become known, the NFL downplayed it to the point of gross negligence for the sake of their own product. there’s a level of faith put in the employer in this case, and when you have team doctor’s telling guys that “it’s fine to go back out there”, why would a player ever question that?
they could give a flying crap about player safety, and given that without the players, you would have no product in the first place, its nothing short of disgusting, and for their complicity and neglience, they should absolutely be forced to pay.
Says the resident Commie on this site. You would probably favor flag football for the NFL or no professional sports at all. How about we re-institute leather helmets with no face guards like they had when the league started. Haven’t read about any of the former stars in that era suing for head injuries. It is also about coaching and coaches teaching improper tackling techniques to take another player out. By the way, you are on the borderline of IJ insulting behavior that has been banned on this site.
“leather helmets…Haven’t read about any of the former stars in that era suing for head injuries.”
That’s because they’re all dead & can’t sue from 6 feet under!
Again- its not about ‘a head injury’ its about a disease of the brain brought about by repeated head injuries. Up until recently people thought there were such things as ‘mild concussions’ or ‘having their bell rung’ no one was being taught that repeated trauma would result in CTE.
glad to see my name is relevant again.
Confused, you remain confused. Bob has a big job ahead of him. The reason why old time players didn’t sue when they were alive is that they didn’t have head injuries because they didn’t lead with their head when tackling. They were smart and knew the protection wasn’t there. Pictures I have seen of them did reveal some teeth missing, but that was about it.
If this were successful, wouldn’t it open up all injuries to WC? That would kill all contact sports.
the issue is the NFL’s refusal to accept the results of the findings for so many years.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that large, fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will not result in head injuries. College ball now has targeting rules and if the review shows the offender spearing with his helmet, he is ejected and has to sit out a portion of the next game. Perhaps the NFL should adopt that rule and take away a game check and that would do some good.
“It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that large, fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will not result in head injuries.”
Was there a typo in that sentence? I sure hope so.
Hasn’t Bob been working with you Confused about insulting behavior? Apparently, you haven’t learned much recently. By the way, I know you have a short attention span or you wouldn’t have to keep repeating what other people say to form a post. Was there a point to your diatribe?
You just insulted me. I did not insult you.
Yes, there was a point. That’s why I asked you a question.
Again, did you make a typo in that sentence or are you REALLY saying athletes running into each other will NOT result in head injuries?
Confused, as the warden said in the movie – Cool Hand Luke – what we have here is a failure to communicate. Do you have dyslexia and automatically read everything I say backward or just put your own spin on it.
Neither. I am asking you what you really meant!
“It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that large, fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will not result in head injuries.”
Did you make a typo or is that really what you meant to say?
Good job down voting me young troll while up voting yourself. Bob has so much work to do. Will he keep trying?
1) I do not vote up or down on this site.
2) When you wrote “It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that large, fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will not result in head injuries.”
Did you make a typo or is that really what you meant to say?
Agent, don’t insult a person’s reading and intelligence and then end a question with a period. Maybe the failure to communicate is caused by your 5th grade education and lack of intelligence? Beg for Bob to come debate for you
Actu – what gets me is not that Agent may have made a typo which he rails on others for doing – see Dolfin vs Dolphin when it’s clear those words mean the same thing, it’s how his sentence drastically changes with one word added or removed.
fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will not result in head injuries
is TOTALLY different than
fast athletes running into each other at high speeds will result in head injuries.
Now he could admit he made a typo and meant the latter, but instead he avoids the question and insults me.
So Agent – what were you trying to say? Did you make an honest mistake and type “not” in there by accident, or are you really trying to say what you literally wrote?
Head Injuries- yes.
CTE? No… it was a completely undiagnosed condition that no athlete was aware of as a potential life altering / ending illness
I’m surprised this suit was brought in Florida. Workers’ Comp is the exclusive remedy for all on the job injuries except for professional athletes UNLESS their employer voluntarily covers them for WC. As a 20+ year arbitrator for the NFL management council and the Players assn. involving Miami Dolfin players, I can tell you that the Dolfins are probably the only team that has not ‘purchased’ a work comp policy. Instead the Dolfin players have to use Arbitration via an implementation agreement signed many years ago. Maybe that’s why no Dolfins are on the list of players. There is no reason why Dolfin players can’t file for WC benefits under Florida law and have their cases heard by an arbitrator. In addition, when issues have arisen in the past that are common to many players, such as the compensability of CTE, the arbitrators have heard those matters in a three arbitrator panel and decided the issues in that fashion. Unless there is proof that will fit the Florida definition of ‘intentional injury'(highly unlikely), not covered by WC, I see the Federal suit being dimissed.
Gee, I always thought they were called the Dolphins. Thanks for enlightening us.
Intentional injury seems easy since the NFL knew about it, lied, attacked doctors who put out studies, and eveb created fake studies to make players and the public think it was not a danger.
If professional athletes are employees why should they be allowed to earn income from other deals?.
You don’t see IRS agents with sponsorship logo from tax filings agencies or the list could go on and on.
Having pro athletes in the same workers comp as a fast food employee expecting WC to pick up half
The person income surely it not in the best interest of all when a injury occurs.
If the person can not work or talk due to a head injury are WC going to hand out half the income the player would have earned?