Insurers Mull Obamacare Exits as Uncertainty, Losses Mount

By | February 16, 2017

  • February 16, 2017 at 1:51 pm
    GoldC says:
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    It’s been such a success for 20 million Americans that all Democrats are crying their crocodile tears about the Trump administration’s attempts to dismantle the ACA, yet insurer after insurer withdraws as prices soar – is there really a marketplace left???

  • February 16, 2017 at 2:02 pm
    PolarBeaRepeal says:
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    20 MILLION NEW insureds is a LIE.

    12M were dropped from Medicaid and put on ACA.

    7M were forced to drop their in-force private insurance policies, which were deemed non-compliant with ACA, and forced to buy an ACA policy.

    1M were new policies / coverage. But a good portion of them received highly subsidized or free policies.

    the Death Spiral was built into the scheme by Dems seeking a Single Payer system – by causing the ACA to fail to achieve that end.

    • February 16, 2017 at 2:44 pm
      Agent says:
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      Polar, the full exit is on the way. In March, they can then make plans to offer coverage to all Americans applying as they drop their disastrous current plans. That is a good thing, by the way.

      • February 16, 2017 at 3:58 pm
        PolarBeaRepeal says:
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        A long ago critic of Hillarycare in 1993 is now saying the Republican plan will come together in late March or early April.

        I hear that drug costs will be a main target for cost savings, as well as essential coverages instead of the ACA mandated coverages.

        • February 16, 2017 at 5:47 pm
          Agent says:
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          Polar, perhaps the newly designed app will have boxes to check on whether birth control, abortions and other coverages are desired or to be rejected. If coverage is rejected, the premium should be lower, right? A free country should be able to make choices, not mandated to take everything they don’t want. That is the Progressive way and how did that turn out?

          • February 16, 2017 at 8:43 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Agent;

            A Progressive is a person who believes OTHER people should be free to choose, as long as they choose the one option chosen for them by Elite Progressives.

            Hence, Obamacare mandated lots of extra stuff being covered for an ACA compliant policy, and those opposed to it used “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” as a theme song.

          • February 16, 2017 at 8:47 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            I almost forgot to address your point about the USA being a free country.

            Free handouts for Illegal Aliens,
            Free cell phones for Obama supporters,
            Free health insurance under ACA,
            Free food stamps,
            Free money for Solar Power startups,
            Free birth control for law students in Georgetown U.
            Free, free, free!
            Everything is free as far as the eye can see.

          • February 17, 2017 at 7:00 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            You forgot about a check box for botox treatment for old libs. Give me freedom from wrinkles – covered by insurance – or give me (self-pay) debt!

  • February 16, 2017 at 11:07 pm
    Boonedoggle says:
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    Why concern ourselves with ACA. Trump repeatedly promised that it would be repealled and IMMEDIATELY replaced with a new program providing EVERYONE with much better coverage at much less cost.

    INSURANCE JOURNAL would do us a favor by explaining the details of Trumpcare, since previously the private insurance sector was too dumb to figure it out.

    • February 17, 2017 at 6:54 am
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      “Immediate” is Trumptalk for “soon”.

      Expect delays because of late entry of idea from wonks and geeks.

      Would you rather have the architects rush out a plan that would be similar to ACA? That wouldn’t address underlying costs? That wouldn’t open competition up across state lines? That wouldn’t involve tort reform for med mal? That…. well, I think you get the idea why all the competing plans being considered have to be combined carefully to avoid EmmanuelGruberJarrettPelosiReidCare.

      Thank God for TrumPresident and ObamaCarExit!

      • February 17, 2017 at 8:47 am
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        Great. Now we have Trumptalk, whatever that means. Maybe it means that we need to take him literally, but not seriously; or seriously, but not literally; or both, but never neither. Fortunately for the IJ crowd, we have PolarBeaRepeal to interpret to tell us how he is to be interpreted.

        I will give President Trump credit, he has effectively eliminated any culpability for him or his administration. Now we only have either:
        1. Positive news for President Trump and his administration; or
        2. Fake news.

        • February 17, 2017 at 8:53 am
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          Correction: Remove ‘to interpret’ from “Fortunately for the IJ crowd, we have PolarBeaRepeal to interpret to tell us how he is to be interpreted.”

          • February 17, 2017 at 9:34 am
            Agent says:
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            Fortunately, we won’t have Obamacare or Single Payer government insurance that you advocated. We are getting rid of the former and avoiding the bigger nightmare. The fake news is propagated by the ALT LEFT. They need to find a new career.

          • February 17, 2017 at 10:40 am
            Ron says:
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            And, that is relevant to my post how?

          • February 17, 2017 at 12:12 pm
            Agent says:
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            Ron, you have been bashing Conservatives for years for misinterpreting your posts. You clearly speak a different language and now you are griping that you can’t understand Polar’s posts. How is this for a post?Progressive Socialism Is Dead! RIP! Got it yet or do you not understand plain language?

          • February 17, 2017 at 12:54 pm
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            Agent,

            You are right. We do speak different languages. I speak from a fact-based analytical point of view where you prefer an opinion-based emotional point of view.

            Considering that Progressive Socialism NEVER existed in this country, I am not sure why you are now espousing its demise.

            For someone whose side is in full control, you are coming off as quite angry. Relax, have a beer, and enjoy as President Trump and the Republicans MAGA (for rich, white, Christian men).

          • February 17, 2017 at 4:19 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Ron is approaching meltdown stage. Everyone run for cover!

          • February 19, 2017 at 7:52 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Ron says:
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            And, that is relevant to my post how?

            *********************************************************

            Your post ISN’T relevant… or a mandate, or guiding.

            Review the topic of the article on which these comments are based. TIA.

  • February 17, 2017 at 1:13 pm
    FFA says:
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    I wonder how much money they spend sending duplicate mailings. I just received my 4th set of cards for my dental coverage for this year. They always includes a second page in foreign languages. When I check the box that says English, why send me a second sheet of printed paper with languages I cant understand?

    Also, why send the same crap to my wife? We are both on the same policy.

    Such an inefficient way of doing things…

    • February 17, 2017 at 4:14 pm
      Agent says:
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      Good old Ron, still in denial I see. Still don’t think you voted twice for a Socialist or that he didn’t promote Progressive Socialism for 8 years. Gee, I wonder how Obama’s policies and thug Progressive Hillary managed to get rejected in November. Wonder how the mid terms kept going against them since Obamacare was passed. How did all those statehouses, governorships go for Progressive Democrats? They are all squealing like pigs and blaming everyone but themselves.

      • February 19, 2017 at 7:37 am
        PolarBeaRepeal says:
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        Here’s a theory, which seems to hold water, that I’ve read elsewhere…

        Mid term elections are held in 50 states, every TWO YEARS, whereas the EC system applies in POTUS ELECTIONS every 4 years.

        Each state in a mid-term election is a ‘battle ground state’ for Congressional seats, and this is SLIGHTLY more true for HoR seats than Senate seats.

        Only a handful of states are battle ground states in a POTUS election determined by the Electoral College System (NOT the popular vote!).

        Libs can organize voter fraud or voter turnout efforts in a small number of battle ground states more easily than they can organize such fraud or voter turnout assistance in 50 states.

        Hence, it apparent why Obama won his 2nd term in office, … beyond Romney’s weaknesses and lies to cover up the Benghazi, Libya murder of 4 Americans while Obama and Clinton stood still.

        Nice theory. It has some points that need to be supported, but it certainly holds water.

    • February 18, 2017 at 6:32 pm
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      After a few years of TrumPresidency we will hear recorded answering messages as follows:

      Press one for English.
      Press two for English.
      Press three for English.
      Press any &*$% number for English, except press 10 for Polar Bearian.

  • February 18, 2017 at 8:17 pm
    Boonedoggle says:
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    “Just so you understand, our plan will be much better healthcare at a much lower cost,” he added. “OK? Nothing to complain about.”

    Words of Donald Trump, February 18, 2017 Issue resolved!

    • February 19, 2017 at 7:28 am
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      When only essential coverages are included, high cost risks are effectively and efficiently ‘pooled’ – as they were before ACA, and other cost control measures (which I won’t reveal now) are implemented, that will be the sought result of ACA R&R.

      Libitterals have much to learn from professionals, rather than be misled by the lies of amateurs and crooks like Obama, Jarrett, Gruber, Emmanuel, Pelosi, Reid, and Joe “This is a big %&#$% deal” Biden.

      If you like your policy, … um … doctor …. um…
      If you like you party, you can keep your liberal socialist party.



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