White House Weighing Changes to Ryan Health Care Bill

By , and | March 15, 2017

  • March 15, 2017 at 2:19 pm
    Agent says:
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    Let’s wait until all three phases are done before we pass judgment. It takes a lot of work and patience to get rid of the disaster known as Obamacare.

    • March 15, 2017 at 2:54 pm
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      Not according to President Trump. Or was he lying? There is no other option.

      • March 15, 2017 at 3:23 pm
        PolarBeaRepeal says:
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        Define ‘a lot of time’.

        Ready, steady, GO!

        • March 15, 2017 at 3:56 pm
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          Explain why you are asking people to define terms that have not actually been spoken/written in the conversation up to this point.

          Ready, steady, GO!

        • March 15, 2017 at 6:01 pm
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          Because vague terms will lead to … confusion… among the commenters.

          Back to you to answer my request to define ‘a lot of time’….
          ready, steady, … GO!

          • March 20, 2017 at 9:26 am
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            But if people use actual specific definitions you whine about it, and Agent calls it word parsing.

          • March 21, 2017 at 9:21 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Avoiding the question = lost debate on the point.

          • March 21, 2017 at 9:56 am
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            PolarBeaRepeal,

            You and Agent avoid questions regularly. Does that mean you are admitting defeat in debates?

            The question is, of course, rhetorical.

        • March 16, 2017 at 9:12 am
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          Also, if your reading comprehension skills were better, you would realize Ron implied the ACA R&R will be ‘instantaneous’, per reference to PresidenTrump’s hyperbole about immediately replacing ACA. Ron suggested the ‘Trumperbole’ might be a LIE instead of more REASONABLY and RESPONSIBLY interpreting it as mere hyperbole used to inspire his supporters.

        • March 16, 2017 at 9:13 am
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          Explain why you needed an explanation of my request.

          Ready, steady, …GO!

        • March 16, 2017 at 1:23 pm
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          Confused is a troll who issues ultimatums and orders, but fails to answer simple questions that will point out his hypocrisy.

          • March 16, 2017 at 1:26 pm
            Confused says:
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            Hi pot, thanks for calling the kettle black.

          • March 16, 2017 at 6:08 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            No explanation of your request for ‘instant replacement’?

          • March 17, 2017 at 9:18 am
            Confused says:
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            I don’t need to explain/defend something I never actually said.

          • March 17, 2017 at 9:45 am
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            Correction; you can’t explain it because you know it’s wrong to criticize ANYONE for making a hyperbolic promise. It’s childish to do so, and you’ve been caught.

          • March 17, 2017 at 10:23 am
            Confused says:
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            WRONG

          • March 17, 2017 at 12:48 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            You debate like a 15 yo.

          • March 17, 2017 at 1:06 pm
            Confused says:
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            WRONG again

          • March 18, 2017 at 8:02 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            OK, I’ll concede. You debate like a 12 yo. Better?

      • March 16, 2017 at 10:08 am
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        @Ron; ‘lying or not lying’ options are NOT the only two categories because you say so. The proper 3rd categorization is he was Trumperbole-ing. Get used to it because smart conservative posters won’t follow you down any of the rabbit holes you like to dig.

  • March 15, 2017 at 2:23 pm
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    “A 64-year-old earning $26,500 a year would have a $19,500 premium for health insurance and get a tax credit of $4,900, leaving a bill to pay of $14,600, the CBO estimated. That compares to a $15,300 premium under Obamacare with a $13,600 subsidy, leaving the cost to the individual at $1,700.”

    Read that twice. TrumpCare will bury people, figuratively and literally. All of his yuuuge promises were just more hot air from a pathological liar.

    • March 15, 2017 at 3:16 pm
      Agent says:
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      Buzzfeed Fake News obtained by Media Matters or Moveon.org.

    • March 15, 2017 at 3:24 pm
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      LOL at Fake News Victim ExciteBiker! LOOOOOL!

      • March 15, 2017 at 3:42 pm
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        Polar, do you remember Fake Ron saying he would give the President a chance to succeed? Every comment he gives now is an insult. That is what Progressive sore losers do.

        • March 15, 2017 at 4:03 pm
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          You are a HORRIBLE liar. You’ve already been reminded 3 times that Ron & I praised Trump for getting insurance folks involved in the ACA replacement process.

          Worse than that for you – Ron praised Trump LITERALLY just 4 hours ago!!

          http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2017/03/12/444215.htm/?comments

          Agent says: New Executive Order just signed….Sounds like sound business to me.

          Ron says: Agent, I also agree with the EO. Good job President Trump.

          Was that not clear enough for you??

          • March 15, 2017 at 5:27 pm
            Agent says:
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            Little troll, for every post Ron give Trump positive credit for, he posts 10 insults and calls him a liar. Is that clear enough for you?

          • March 15, 2017 at 6:13 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            @Agent; Ron may claim to be an independent… just like I insinuate I am a polar bear. Can you imagine debating with someone who might be a Straw Man/ online-puppet ID for one of the Libitterals?! Hoooo boy!

            Seriously, though; Ron may have said thing like “I’ll give TrumPresident a chance to succeed”. But does he adhere to his pledge very long? I haven’t seen it.

          • March 16, 2017 at 3:39 pm
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            I call ’em as I see ’em. When something positive is announced, I give him credit. When something negative is announces, I will criticize.

            It is not my fault that most of what has been coming out of President Trump and his administration have been lies, distractions, false accusations and hyperbole. Even some of the positives had nothing top do with him, but he is happy to take credit.

          • March 17, 2017 at 9:01 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            @Ron; visit your optometrist, ASAP!

          • March 17, 2017 at 9:02 am
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            I’m undecided about Trumperbole; do we need more or less of it? Hmm.

        • March 16, 2017 at 9:39 am
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          Stupid me thought “every” meant “every” and not “1 in 10”

          If every means 1 in 10, then nobody means 9 in 10.

          Great news everyone – nobody over 65 has Alzheimer’s!!

          • March 16, 2017 at 10:12 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            ‘every’ is Trumperbole.

            Get used to it. Conservatives will use hyperbole and Trumperbole to emphasize an important point. Unlike Conservatives, Dems like Obama and Hillary used lies to mislead and gain voter support. Get used to the truth being marched out to ‘stand in front of, for comparison’ the lies put on display by Democrats over the last 8 years.

          • March 16, 2017 at 10:14 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Neither Conservatives, or Libertarians or Conservatarians will follow your Libitteral literal wording games down your newly dug rabbit holes.

          • March 16, 2017 at 10:55 am
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            You and Agent are playing the word games by using terms to mean something besides their accepted definitions.

            Just say what you mean and mean what you say, or clarify when you’re being sarcastic/hyperbolic/exaggerating.

            Please stop this “I posted (a) and even though everyone knows what (a) actually means, that’s not what I actually meant when I said it” nonsense.

          • March 16, 2017 at 1:25 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            @Confused; you haven’t answered my questions. Please pull your head of other body part out of your rabbit hole and answer questions posed… or refrain from conversations here.

          • March 16, 2017 at 1:29 pm
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            Are you still asking me to define terms I never brought up in the first place (e.g. “a lot of time”)? I’ll gladly answer RELEVANT questions to something I’ve posted.

            So, ask me again what you’d like me to answer. Please remember it MUST be germane to something I actually posted.

          • March 16, 2017 at 6:10 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Fail. Take your rabbit hole discussions elsewhere.

          • March 17, 2017 at 9:48 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Inability to explain one’s criticism of hyperbolic statements of another person whose statements are well known to be hyperbole = fail.

            Avoiding request to explain such criticism = fail/ loss of debate.

          • March 21, 2017 at 9:11 am
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            Yogi “you didn’t answer me!”

            Me “So, ask me again what you’d like me to answer. Please remember it MUST be germane to something I actually posted.”

            Yogi “you didn’t answer me! you fail!”

            Me again right now: So, ask me again what you’d like me to answer. Please remember it MUST be germane to something I actually posted.

          • March 21, 2017 at 9:23 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            There’s no sense in following a troll down a rabbit hole.

          • March 21, 2017 at 10:41 am
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            Alright, but in that case, I respectfully request you stop telling me I’m avoiding your questions when clearly I am not.

  • March 16, 2017 at 11:00 am
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    Polar, I am afraid that your logic and humor is far over the head of our wee liberal troll. He has a one track mind and is in an Alternate Universe, much like his running mate Ron. Bob didn’t realize how hard it would be to educate him and had to give up after several months of schooling.

    • March 16, 2017 at 11:23 am
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      It’s not logical when you consistently use words you are defining as something besides what’s in the dictionary or how they’re used colloquially.

      Words matter.
      Just pick the right ones when you post.

      Do you mean 1 in 10?
      Then don’t say “every”
      Say “1 in 10”

      It’s really not that hard.
      I challenge you to try it sometime.

      • March 16, 2017 at 11:28 am
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        Trump says what he means and means what he says. Got it, or did that fly right over your head? He also means BUSINESS! Got that or did that go over your head as well?

        More great news! The EPA unemployment line will be growing as 3,200 jobs will be cut. Got to drain that liberal swamp.

        • March 16, 2017 at 1:18 pm
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          So, he means what he says when he said he can “grab them in the…”? Or, this whole wiretapping thing? The dude is the BIGGEST LIAR I have ever heard. And, I know plenty of liars on all sides of the issues. The guy is incapable of truth. It’s sickening.

        • March 16, 2017 at 1:27 pm
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          @Captain Planet; please tell us when TrumPresident is and isn’t using Trumperbole. Thanks.

          • March 16, 2017 at 5:14 pm
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            Polar, so I googled EPA to get their number of employees and was shocked to see over 15,000 employees on an $8 Billion+ budget. That 3,200 employee cut seems modest now in the bloated bureaucracy, but then again as the President said last night, we have only just begun. They could easily cut 50-60% and we wouldn’t notice it.

        • March 16, 2017 at 1:30 pm
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          Psst; Captain; I’d say a guy who said “I did not have sex with that woman, that Miss Lewinsky…” is the ultimate liar, followed closely by the guy who said “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period.” I’m not sure if only ONE person said “it was a spontaneous protest due to a Youtube video”, so I can’t add a third place contender.

        • March 16, 2017 at 1:37 pm
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          Anytime i45 speaks, all he is doing is MALA. Making America Laugh Again. And, not with him.

          • March 16, 2017 at 2:41 pm
            Agent says:
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            How about MSLS aka “Making Sore Losers Squirm” again.

            Trump is the Doberman and you are the Poodle.

          • March 16, 2017 at 4:04 pm
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            I didn’t lose anything, Agent. I didn’t vote for HRC. You can’t seem to understand that and I’ve wrote it to you probably 25 times now. Speaking of dogs, Pavlov’s Dog much?

          • March 17, 2017 at 12:51 pm
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            @Capt; actually, you lose because you DIDN’T vote for TrumPresident.

          • March 20, 2017 at 9:03 am
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            If not voting for an accused and alleged child raping, admitted sexual abusing, incest-curious, pathological lying, no good grifter makes me a loser, then I don’t want to win. The man is a despicable animal. Scumbag. We have a scumbag for a President. I hope that scumbag does something Presidential rather than playing on Twitter all day and taking mutli-million dollar vacations every weekend.

          • March 20, 2017 at 7:40 pm
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            Lots of accusations there, Capt. Asteroid.

            Where is the evidence and when is a DA going to press charges against this mysterious person you didn’t name?

            I’ll assume you didn’t name anyone so you can later deny accusing anyone of specific things/ crimes. Am I right? Sure, I am. And you know it.

          • March 21, 2017 at 7:09 am
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            LOL @ “I didn’t vote for Hillary”…. by someone who is trolling TrumPresident in nearly every post.

          • March 21, 2017 at 7:49 am
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            Many, many anti-President Trump people did not vote for Hillary Clinton.

          • March 21, 2017 at 9:02 am
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            Yogi,
            I am not the one accusing him. Her name is Katie Johnson. And, she filed suit.

            http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

            She most recently pulled it back in November after receiving death threats. Everything else I say about him is well documented. He admitted to sexual abusing women on national TV (grab them by the eh-hem, kiss them against their will). He has also admitted to being sexually curious about his own daughter. He went behind stage of his own beauty pageants so he could be a pervert (which he admitted to on Howard Stern). He is darn near incapable of truth (wire taps?). But, you go ahead and brush this all aside. I know you voted for your principles, right? I sure hope not. Face it, you voted for a scumbag. And now, not only is he MALA (making America laugh again…at him, not with him) the entire world is making a mockery of him. It’s embarrassing.

          • March 21, 2017 at 9:27 am
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            Some trolls file fake lawsuits.

            Other trolls dig rabbit holes and try to entice others to follow their meaningless arguments that end up in a rabbit hole.

  • March 16, 2017 at 2:18 pm
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    The Ryan Health Care Plan??? Let’s just call it “Hot Potato, Hot Potato, who’s holding the Hot Potato” health care plan..

    • March 16, 2017 at 4:41 pm
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      Planet, Iowa didn’t lose anything because they are as red as your face. So you voted for Gary (what is Aleppo) Johnson. Good choice. Sounds about your speed.

      • March 16, 2017 at 5:21 pm
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        Try again, Agent. And now that we have Brandstad back in office, Iowa is losing. Budget being one, for example. He’s going to need to tap into the rainy day fund. Sounds about right. Today’s Republicans talk a mean game but when it comes time to actually govern…well…not so much.

        • March 17, 2017 at 11:58 am
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          Couldn’t possibly be as bad as your hero Harkin.

          • March 18, 2017 at 8:07 pm
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            @Agent; I just realized we are in the middle of March.

            Who do you have in your March Libitterness brackets for the Final Four Libitterals? :)

          • March 20, 2017 at 9:07 am
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            Don’t know much about Harkin, actually. But, you can keep casting your lies. Seems like truth doesn’t matter to many of today’s conservatives anymore.

        • March 20, 2017 at 11:44 pm
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          “Who do you have in your March Libitterness brackets for the Final Four Libitterals? :)”

          This doesn’t even mean anything, just pure idiocy.

          • March 21, 2017 at 9:28 am
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            You just qualified for the Final FoUraniumeltdown of Libitteralness.

  • March 20, 2017 at 3:30 pm
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    Polar and Agent,

    GUESS WHO THE FBI IS INVESTIGATING!!!!?????? =) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • March 20, 2017 at 6:38 pm
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      Didn’t you see Twitter this morning? Donnie Tic Tac declared it fake news before it started. He is already the most, or approaching it, corrupt president in history. They threw Page and Manfort under the bus today. Manafort lives in Trump Tower and was campaign manager. These guys look like they committed treason, and Agent and Yogi cheered right along with it like the good little fascists they are.

      • March 20, 2017 at 6:52 pm
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        When is the AG going to indict the…. uh oh for Libitterals! Lynch isn’t AG anymore. Well, that’s more lost time and resources.

        • March 20, 2017 at 11:41 pm
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          So Yogi makes it official and supports Republicans being above the law. What a disgusting, un-American, piece of trash that comment is.

        • March 21, 2017 at 9:34 am
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          LOL at Hypocrite Libitterals ignoring the non-indictment of Hillary after a mountain of evidenced was wheeled out by Comey in a Legal Wheelbarrow last summer.

          I have yet to see the FBI evidence of Russian hacking. Or anything else.

          We all saw the email server evidence, the testimony, the documents showing deleted emails, and Bill & Lorretta Lynch meeting privately on a plane…

          Then, the super delegates pledged to HRC BEFORE any Democrat primaries occurred. And Donna Brazile, a CNN Commenter and Dem Operative, passing debate questions to HRC before the debate on CNN.

          THAT is evidence.

          No evidence has been produced by the FBI on anything involving TrumPresident, Russians, and TrumPresident advisors.

          • March 21, 2017 at 11:39 am
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            You’ve completely lost it. Literally almost everything you write about Clinton is factually wrong. Too stupid. It’s not possible for super delegates to pledge before the election, PolarDummy. They did state their support for her, as they are allowed to do.

            The FBI doesn’t present evidence publicly before an indictment, even the dumbest of morons know this.

            Stop posting, you are ‘not even wrong,’ and incapable of discussing anything even tangentially connected to reality.

          • March 21, 2017 at 1:57 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            LOL @ delusional UW

          • March 21, 2017 at 1:59 pm
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            parsing words ‘pledge before the election’.

            EVERYONE knows they were voting for Clinton ahead of each primary election.

            Denial is not a river in Egypt. It’s the state in which you’re living.

    • March 20, 2017 at 7:02 pm
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      Looked. Found nothing. Libitterals were pranked again.

      • March 20, 2017 at 11:43 pm
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        Just proves how stupid you are; you must have missed when the Director of the FBI said the president had slandered a private citizen, and when they confirmed they have an active counterintelligence investigation going against the Trump administration.

        No, counterintelligence are not the stupid, unintelligent posts you make all day here, it is related to people helping other countries at the expense of the USA.

      • March 21, 2017 at 7:13 am
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        FBI Director Comey also suggested the AG Lynch not prosecute Hillary … after Lynch met with Bill on an empty plane, and Obama said he was sure the investigation would prove her innocence WHILE the investigation was in progress.

        Comey’s credibility is zero. He is a political hack. You are grasping at straws because Comey can’t push anyone to indict anyone. He can only present evidence. The AG makes the decision to indict someone. Guess who appointed Sessions?

        • March 21, 2017 at 8:11 am
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          Is that the same political hack that contributed to Hillary Clinton’s defeat by announcing they were going to be re-opening an investigation into her emails?

          Just because you do not like what he is saying and doing, does not make him a political hack.

          I am sure if he came out and said there was no evidence of ties between the trump campaign and the Russians you would be praising him.

        • March 21, 2017 at 9:38 am
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          Yes, it’s that guy, who RE-OPENED the investigations (plural) into the email obfuscations and The Clinton Crime Family Foundation

          AFTER it was closed through his prejudice…

          BUT had to be RE-OPENED after his staff threatened to reveal what they found AFTER they retired.

          Let that last sentence sink in for a while…. there is a ticking time bomb, just waiting for several people inside the FBI to move away from the FBI – to escape retaliation by Comey – to report THEIR findings independent of Comey’s influence.

          GOT it, Ron?

        • March 21, 2017 at 9:41 am
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          I would not ‘praise’ non-news by Comey.

          There NEVER has been ANY evidence advanced showing ties and collusion in the election involving The Russians and TrumPresident. So, there is no reason for the FBI’s Comey to make any such denial statement. … you can’t prove a negative.

          You are grasping at straws in your March Libitteralness Final FoUraniumeltdown.

      • March 21, 2017 at 7:15 am
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        Psst; the private citizen is living about 4 blocks from the WH where he once wasn’t a private citizen, and has invited Valerie Jarrett to live with him and his family.

        How ‘private’ is a public figure?

        Comey is FBI Director and doesn’t know the difference between a public celebrity and a private citizen? LMAO! What a fool!

        • March 21, 2017 at 4:20 pm
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          Ignoring your moronic conspiracy rants (exactly what I would expect from a POS racist birther), public celebrities are still private citizens in this context. Also, there is enough information out there that only the dumbest of the absolutely least intelligent, most gullible, most idiotic of the grade A idiots believe Jarrett moved into Obama’s house, so I will assume you don’t actually think that.

          Get a life, analyzing politics isn’t for you.

    • March 21, 2017 at 10:37 am
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      NO EVIDENCE;

      This is a Fox News interview of an independent news media reporter, Sara Carter.

      http://video.foxnews.com/v/5366487715001/?playlist_id=2114913880001#sp=show-clips

      Yes, there are investigations of TrumPresident.

      No, it isn’t unusual for this to occur for POTUS candidates.

      No, there is NO evidence of Russian collusion with TrumPresident.

      Please supply EVIDENCE that you think contradicts this report.

      Note that Sara Carter contacted the DOJ and reports her discussion in the above interview.

      Libitterals can fall back on their usual dodge; i.e. it’s Faux News.

      …. but it isn’t. It’s Sara Carter of Circa News media being interviewed by Fox’s Hannity.

      Libitterals will have to add Circa News to their list of ‘Enemies of (their Socialist) State’.

  • March 21, 2017 at 1:11 pm
    UW says:
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    You say Carter is independent and then in the quote you pasted it says she isn’t independent. You are neither intelligent nor informed enough to comment on any of this.

    It is extremely unusual for an investigation like this, you are full Bob now and cannot write a single comment without just blatantly lying because you know nothing and base everything on just wanting to appear intelligent and wanting to protect Republicans, even over the country. Lying, un-American clowns.

    • March 21, 2017 at 1:34 pm
      Captain Planet says:
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      UW, the truth doesn’t matter to conservatives like Yogi, Agent, and their dear leader. It’s nothing but lies and they say them so often, they begin to believe them. It’s a disease…like alcoholism. They need help. I feel sorry for them. Honestly.

      • March 21, 2017 at 1:44 pm
        Ron says:
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        I believe it is time to just let them stew in their own BS and go down with President Trump. They have shown neither the willingness nor ability to absorb facts that do not conform to their narrative(s).

        • March 21, 2017 at 3:25 pm
          UW says:
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          Nunes said he didn’t even know who Manafort or Page were. They are almost all lying cretins. They are able to do this because idiots go out and repeat whatever they say, just like Agent and PolarTard do here

      • March 21, 2017 at 2:01 pm
        PolarBeaRepeal says:
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        Chicken stew or beef stew?

        When is TrumPresident ‘going down’?
        On what charges?
        And, due to what evidence?

    • March 21, 2017 at 2:03 pm
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      @UW: if you didn’t listen to the vid I linked, perhaps you should and then report back here on the key issue?

      Sara Carter is not a Fox News reporter. The latter are always labelled as such on the bottom of the screen. Thanks for playing.

      • March 21, 2017 at 3:21 pm
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        Again you make a case that you are functionally illiterate. I never said anything about her working for Fox News.

        • March 21, 2017 at 4:33 pm
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          You’re parsing words again. You fail again in trolling to get people to follow you into a rabbit hole.



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