Republican Health Care Act Moves Closer to House Vote

By | March 17, 2017

  • March 17, 2017 at 2:37 pm
    FFA says:
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    Charge hard. This needs to go. I just got royally screwed by the market place. Their Screw up. Now, my wife cant get her Diabetic Meds. I cant get my Cholesterol meds. Could take 90 days for resolution.
    Obama and his cronies should have never stuck their nose into my health care.

    • March 17, 2017 at 3:24 pm
      Agent says:
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      Sorry for your problem FFA. Thank goodness, the implosion is almost complete. I think you might just like the new plans coming out, more choice, more freedom, less cost and hopefully the plans that you want instead of the mandated ones that have failed so miserably. Thank the Progressive side for slowing everything down because they really like the disaster plan we have had for 7 long years. Prescription meds will soon be prominent in reduction in cost. The FDA will have a swamp draining soon.

      • March 17, 2017 at 4:46 pm
        Not-a-right-winger says:
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        Well yes, if the “essential health benefits” requirement is repealed, plans will be cheaper because they will suck. People will have the freedom to go broke from uninsured medical bills. Is that the system you want?

        • March 17, 2017 at 8:20 pm
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          No. We want the one the Republicans will craft, not the one YOU READ ABOUT ON HUFF & PUFF POST and described in hyperbolic, scare tactics terms.

        • March 17, 2017 at 8:35 pm
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          @Not-a-right-winger:

          Please explain how the ACA will survive its current death spiral.

          Ready, steady, … GO!

        • March 18, 2017 at 9:46 am
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          Correct, we can put together health plans that cost less and of course they will cover less. For example – get breast cancer and you bought & paid for the cheaper plan – then you get chemo & radiation, but no reconstruction. You’re alive, the breast are just a bonus now. You may have wished afterwards you bought a better plan but that’s how the “free market” works – right? Every other every type of insurance policy works this way. You see, Not-a-right-winger, our colleagues and fellow posters here on the IJ haven’t thought about this level of detail. Maybe they’re thinking figuratively and not literally?

        • March 18, 2017 at 8:12 pm
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          No, I’m thinking of freedom of choice of coverages above a basic coverage plan. Endorsements for added coverage enable people to get the coverages that suits their needs, not what THE GOVERNMENT MANDATES THEY SHOULD BUY.

        • March 21, 2017 at 7:18 am
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          … and I’m thinking I wish I had a dollar for every time I read someone complain about their specific, adverse situation under ACA rules.

          The prior situation had problems. But no where near the mess that currently exists – – – THAT DEMS CREATED ALONE, BY BLOCKING REPUBLICANS from the meetings on ACA – BY ACTUALLY SWITCHING LOCKS ON THE MEETING ROOM DOORS.

        • March 21, 2017 at 7:19 am
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          Finally, health insurance is NOT a right. Saying it is doesn’t make it so. If you think so, hire a team of ACLU lawyers and sue someone, anyone you can think of, for health insurance coverage. Let us know how you make out with that endeavor.

          • March 21, 2017 at 8:27 am
            SWFL Agent says:
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            I believe we’re now on the same page. Let’s let insurance companies be insurance companies, allow the public to pick & pay for what they want/can afford, and people get treated or they don’t. I’m completely okay with this approach. But I suspect the public does look at health care as a “right” in part because we’ve made it a right for anyone over 65. Wouldn’t you agree?

          • March 21, 2017 at 10:46 am
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            CIVIL REMINDER,

            OUR PRESIDENT, DONALD TRUMP, IS AND HAS BEEN UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE FBI. ALSO, HIS WIRETAPPING CLAIMS HAVE ZERO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THEM. THIS IS HISTORIC LEVELS OF HILARIOUS. FEEL FREE TO DOWN VOTE MINIONS. THE TRUTH SHALL ALWAYS REVEAL ITSELF.

          • March 21, 2017 at 11:05 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            @Conserving the Truth:

            Listen carefully to the Circa News reporter, Sara Carter, who is NOT a Fox New employee, report on the FBI and NSA investigations.

            Listen. Carefully.

            http://video.foxnews.com/v/5366487715001/?playlist_id=2114913880001#sp=show-clips

            Libitterals in full Final FoUraniuMeltdown are posting ‘stories’ without links or ANY details. That is done because the headlines are misleading, but low information voters won’t read the details and will continue to purvey their fake news.

            This is just another trap that caught Libitterals in their quest for ‘social justice’ after their big 11/8/16 letdown.

          • March 21, 2017 at 11:21 am
            Conserving the Truth says:
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            Polar,

            Did you watch C-SPAN? I literally watched it all go down. I don’t need to read any articles or watch any news stations for this. Comey and Schiff made it quite clear what’s going on. You cannot deny this. Please wake up to what is happening. Polar, I want to make this clear. I voted for him too. What is worse – voting and blindly supporting or voting and saying, “I may have made a mistake”. It is okay to be wrong.

          • March 21, 2017 at 2:04 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            No explanation from ‘not a right winger’, just as I suspected would be the case when I requested such.

            He/ she must be using another Libitteral screen name routinely.

          • March 21, 2017 at 2:06 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            @Confounding the Truth;

            If you heard it all go down, PLEASE REPORT ON IT, with links to the EVIDENCE of wrongdoing.

            If not, stop wasting cyberbytes on the IJ website… and everyone’s time.

            Reminder: rabbit holes are forbidden for entry by sensible people.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:10 pm
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            Polar,

            Will you at least acknowledge Comey said Trump was being investigated? Can you say, “Trump is being investigated regarding possible Russian interference in the 2016 general election”. I will provide quotes from Comey shortly.

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:18 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Chew on this for a while, Libitterals:

            http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

          • March 23, 2017 at 7:58 am
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            Grasping at straws.

            “House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes declared Wednesday that members of Donald Trump’s transition team, possibly including Trump himself, were under inadvertent surveillance following November’s presidential election.

            The White House and Trump’s allies immediately seized on the statement as vindication of the president’s much-maligned claim that former President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower phones — even though Nunes himself said that’s not what his new information shows.”

            This does not prove anything other than what we already knew. That members of the Trump transition team were in contact with Russians who were under surveillance by US intelligence.

            For those unaware, Devin Nunes is a Republican.

          • March 23, 2017 at 9:14 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            @Libitterals; please re-familiarize yourselves with the topic of the article before you divert the discussion.

            That said, an investigation is NOT an indictment. When the F’dBI issues a report recommending indictment, you can continue your discussion in an appropriate comments page… not this one.

            The ACA R&R looks like it will fail todday, and rightly so because it doesn’t have all the requirements I determined a while ago and listed in ‘HEALTH CARE SPECIFICCS’.

            HEA = Health Expense Accounts (not ‘Savings’)
            etc.

          • March 23, 2017 at 9:42 am
            Ron says:
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            It will not pass because it was written to fail. The Republicans want to keep kicking this can down the road so they do not have to take accountability when their free market ideas for health care/insurance fail. In my opinion, if implemented, they would fail miserably.

            I am predicting that the Republicans will experience the same result in 2018 as the Democrats did in 2010. If that does occur, I wonder if we will still be told that elections have consequences from the right. I predict we will not.

          • March 23, 2017 at 10:41 am
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            @Ron; No, it wasn’t written like the ACA to fail and lead to a Single Payer Health care System.

            It was written by RINOs who won’t go far enough to fix the problems. With the failure later today will come the analysis of the flaws, and then, corrections.

            The remaining question is “how many more revisions will be required to yield a proper solution; i.e. government getting out of the way for the free market to solve the ongoing problems as they have in other insurance lines.”

          • March 23, 2017 at 4:05 pm
            Ron says:
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            PolarBeaRepeal,

            My apologies. My post was written for those with a reading comprehension level above the 3rd grade.

            If you read and properly comprehended my entire post, you would have been able to determine that I used the term “fail” to mean it would fail to get passed.

            I hope that clarification helps.

          • March 23, 2017 at 5:58 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            @Ron; I did read your entire post, and agree, but added my opinion – which goes farther by accusing the Dems of planning for a Single Payer System down the line. Why else would they keep the ACA bill secret until the vote? Their steps and moves and provisions were designed to yield a death spiral and calls for government intervention via Single Payer.

            This accusation isn’t something I’m making lightly and without deep thought into many of the provisions and actions taken by Dems and EOs by Obama, in regard to ways adverse selection could be ramped up S-L-O-W-L-Y over a few years, much like turning on the heat with a frog in a pot of cool water…

            COMPLETE, CLEAN REPEAL is the ONLY solution.

            Government intervention will only make a LARGER mess out of an already large mess left behind by Dems.

          • March 24, 2017 at 8:08 am
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            If adding your opinion was your intention, you should have begun your post with, “To add to your post, here is my opinion…”.
            Instead you began by disputing what I wrote. This is a clear indication that you did not agree with me that the bill was written to fail in getting passed because you thought I meant that the law was going to fail.

            It is OK to just admit that you either misread or misinterpreted my post.

      • March 19, 2017 at 8:23 am
        PolarBeaRepeal says:
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        @Agent;

        The Conservative platform has always been about freedom of choice – for almost any topic. The Dems say they endorse freedom, but really have been about ‘we know more than those who vote against us . . . or for us, so we’ll decide what The People need and get.

        Now that PresidenTrump is freeing US citizens of burdens and regulations and taxes and mandates, the Socialist Libitterals are going into Uraniumeltdown… and we are about to enter the Final Four of March Libitteralness on this board. Hold onto your hat and don’t follow any of them down their rabbit hole arguments.

        The ACA REPLACEMENT should be not much of anything, really. The repeal part should enable insurance companies to offer a wider choice of plans and endorsements, and insured a wider choice of insuring or self-insuring, including a variety of plans and may insurers competing for their business.

        • March 19, 2017 at 8:25 am
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          ‘many insurers’ … not ‘may insurers’. bear culpa.

        • March 20, 2017 at 4:59 pm
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          Polar, freedom of choice in a free America is the key. The left almost swung this country into Socialism on steroids and eventually Communism, which was the goal. Thank God our new President stymied them and is starting back on the freedom of choice bandwagon.

          For the liberal usurpers of freedom, your applecart is upside down with the wheels spinning.

          • March 21, 2017 at 10:49 am
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            The Dems are interested in taking away freedom of speech more so than freedom of choice. Then again I guess your speech is a choice. The PC Police are slowly turning the publics moral code into a beacon of fascism. Pretty sickening but the rebound is strong. The common sense resistance is strong.

          • March 22, 2017 at 8:16 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Resistance by loser Libitterals has failed, again and again, especially since 11/8/16.

            Resistance is futile! Assimilate and MAGA!

          • March 22, 2017 at 11:18 am
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            Polar,

            You didn’t even read my entire comment. Well, you may have but you weren’t able to coherently articulate it. The “resistance” isn’t liberals. It is people with common sense who are in the middle and realize that far left liberals are just as insane as far right conservatives like you. Let me say this clearly for you. The resistance is those who realize both sides are wrong in their own ways. You would do yourself an endless amount of favors by joining.

          • March 22, 2017 at 11:23 am
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            BY THE WAY – your false prophet is being investigated by the FBI. Any thoughts? Let me guess – FAKE NEWS! CORRUPTION! NOT TRUE! SAD!

            You still have time to gather a little common sense and realize you have been lied to. Polar, it isn’t too late. Admitting Trump is a terrible President doesn’t mean you are stepping back on your beliefs. It means you are sensible and can admit when someone is ruining the country.

            HE IS being investigated. IT HAS been going on since JULY. THESE ARE NOT opinions. THESE ARE FACTS. FACTS. NO MORE OPINION NONSENSE. THESE ARE FACTS.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:03 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            @Conserving the Resistance:

            TrumPresident is being investigated means as much now as Hillary was investigated to you….

            Come back when the FBI announces evidence of wrong-doing, rather than ‘we’re at work advancing the liberal agenda by discrediting TrumPresident by simply announcing an investigation’.

            Repeat: e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:06 pm
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            Hypothetical Court scene:

            Prosecuting Attorney: Your Honor, the Defendant is being investigated by the FBI, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NPR, NY Times, The Huff & Puff POSt, and Ralphie, a PI in my neighborhood.

            Judge: GTF out of my court.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:12 pm
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            Evidence!!! HAHAA WONDERFUL. Everything from off shore bank accounts, unreported meetings between Trump officials and Russian officials..so much more. By the way, your head is so far in the dark you are assuming I supported CLinton. Where was that ever said??? Where? Let me say this again.I voted Trump. it was a terrible mistake.

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:57 pm
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            Unreported meetings are not evidence of anything. Meetings take place between Congressmen on foreign relations committees as a routine occurrence in their duties.

            Off shore accounts? Which ones?

            You’re grasping for straws and will soon find yourself sinking amidst empty, innocent events you are referencing.

            More important is the surveillance that was NOT ordered by a FISA Court, and those that were ordered by a FISA Court. Do you realize which persons were allowed to initiate those? When did those occur?

            Also, Section 12-333 refers to the sharing of intel info from one intelligence agency to another, AND OBAMA changed the sharing protocols SHORTLY BEFORE HE LEFT OFFICE. If you explain why, you’ll realize your barking up the wrong tree.

          • March 23, 2017 at 9:17 am
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            @Confusing the Truth:

            Re-familiarize yourself with the topic of the article for this comments page and stick to the topic in your future posts.

            Investigation isn’t the same as indictment. The former hasn’t yielded anything but derogatory articles by the Liberal Mainstream Media. The latter is what will occur of it is determined there is evidence of unmasking by a Shadow Government run by Obama and his minions. Nunes is working on the last item, with the help of an FBI insider.

          • March 23, 2017 at 10:45 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Off topic, but relevant to political discourse tactics by Libitterals:

            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/23/schumer-says-dems-will-filibuster-gorsuch/

            Fillibuster all you want, Schmucky… the nuke option could be used, and some of your Dem counterparts will be removed in November 2018.

  • March 21, 2017 at 11:08 am
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    It’s no coincidence that the VOLUME of (down)votes on posts over the last few weeks is so much lower than before, and conservative views are not being censored.

    I wonder what Libitterals will do with their useless BOTs now? They might be useful on other websites.

    • March 21, 2017 at 11:22 am
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      Your bot theory is really making you look silly. No one can manipulate the votes anymore, not just “liberals”. No one is being censored. Look at the entire picture not just the portion that looks best to you.

    • March 21, 2017 at 2:10 pm
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      Correction; no Libitterals can manipulate the votes here any longer.

      Conservatives were the victims of DOZENS of down votes that censored their posts while Libitterals were only occasionally the subject of a few more than 10 more down votes than up votes that censored their posts. Explain how those things could be true if people on both sides were using BOTs. Ready, steady, …. GO!

      • March 21, 2017 at 2:53 pm
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        Can we move on from the bot/voting nonsense topic now? As someone who never voted yet received hundreds of downvotes on more than 30 comments, now that it’s “fixed”, can you PLEASE stop bringing up bots?

        I know for a fact conservatives constantly downvoted my posts to get them hidden, and I didn’t/don’t care.

        I just wish you could put this regurgitated comment to bed and let it die since IJ fixed the problem and we know it was definitely not just Liberals who downvoted posts into oblivion.

      • March 21, 2017 at 4:37 pm
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        You want to move on from a topic that embarrasses you? And because you can’t BOT anymore to CENSOR conservatives, you want to move on from a topic that frustrates you into UraniuMeltdown mode? I think I’ll bring it up as often as I like.

        • March 21, 2017 at 4:55 pm
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          It does not embarrass me, nor did it bother me, when I was downvoted 100+ times by you and Agent.

          I’m just tired of reading the same useless “bot” post from you which is no longer an issue (by your own admission), and which does nothing to foster intelligent conversation on this site.

          As stated above by another poster, you’re only hurting & embarrassing yourself bringing this up ad nauseam.

        • March 22, 2017 at 8:19 am
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          OK, it doesn’t embarrass you.

          I’ll change my categorization to: it frustrates and often enrages you that you can’t censor Conservative viewpoints as an electronic version of shouting over Conservative voices in Republican Town Hall meetings, and in other public places where political issues are being discussed. Better?

          • March 22, 2017 at 9:28 am
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            Nope, not better. You categorization should be: Confused is just tired of reading the same useless “bot” post from Yogi, which is no longer an issue, and which does nothing to foster intelligent conversation on this site.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:07 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Denial isn’t a river in Egypt. It’s your state of mind.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:09 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            The significance and validity of BOT-buster software now used by IJ is that it verifies the prior use of BOTs by Libitterals fearing the truth discussed by Conservatives.

            So, it’s worthy of mention a few more times, especially since it seems to irk you. You must have lost a few bucks in your investment in your now-useless down-vote BOT. If not, it must have been given away free by George Sore-ass.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:17 pm
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            “So, it’s worthy of mention a few more times, especially since it seems to irk you”

            I appreciate your admission that you are just a troll.

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:19 pm
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            I did no such thing. Keep wishing and hoping.

          • March 22, 2017 at 7:02 pm
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            … it shows you were likely involved in the use of BOTs to censor Conservative opinions. That’s my conclusion from your reaction (i.e. ‘irked’).

      • March 21, 2017 at 5:48 pm
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        Polar, Liboterals use many, many moniker names and keep switching them around to down vote Conservatives which explains how you can be hidden on things they don’t like about your posts. That’s ok. They are fools and Ecclesiates 10:2 applies to them.

        • March 21, 2017 at 10:57 pm
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          Yes, I’ve used different monikers, but not for multi-voting.

          I know of that process, which is tedious and slow to censor someone. It happens that 11 more down votes than up votes yields hidden status, so they have to switch monikers several times, and do so as a team, to barely get enough votes to hide conservatives posts.

          But with BOTs, they can generate dozens of down votes almost instantly, reducing the chance to about nil of seeing up votes offset enough down votes to restore the display of a hidden post by a conservative.

          I’m smarter than the average polar bear, y’know! ;)

        • March 22, 2017 at 8:23 am
          PolarBOT, James PolarBOT says:
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          Multiple monikers, you say?

          How could Libitterals do such a thing?

      • March 21, 2017 at 10:53 pm
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        OK, let’s move on from BOTs. But I do want a recount of down votes cast by people from Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

        If that’s ok, then I also want to move on from the fake news about Russians hacking the election, TrumPresident being investigated AS IF that meant he were ALREADY guilty before ANY evidence is presented for public consumption, and TrumPresident LYING because he used hyperbole about ‘immediately repealing ACA’.

        Deal?

        • March 22, 2017 at 9:39 am
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          Polar, how about we start today with some favorites of mine.

          MASA, MARA, MAFFITA, MAGA.

          • March 22, 2017 at 9:48 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Make America Safe Again?
            Make America Respected Again?
            Make America pay Fair Federal Income Taxes Again?

          • March 22, 2017 at 10:22 am
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            I believe MASA more accurately stands for Make America Sick Again.

            Unfortunately, all we have experienced so far is MAALS (Make America a Laughing Stock).

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:11 pm
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            @Ron; I think it’s Make America Solvent Again.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:36 pm
            Ron says:
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            Please define solvent?

          • March 22, 2017 at 5:26 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Not illiquid.

  • March 22, 2017 at 10:33 am
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    Close, but no cigar Polar. First one is correct. Make America Safe Again. MARA is Make America Rich Again. MAFFITA is Make America free from Islamic Terrorism again. Last is the favorite. Make America Great Again.

    How do you like the Anti Trump un American Ron’s take?

    • March 22, 2017 at 11:19 am
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      Agent,

      How do you like the FACT your God Emperor is being investigated by the FBI?

      • March 22, 2017 at 11:23 am
        Agent says:
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        How do you like the FACT that Comey is the most corrupt, dishonest Director of the FBI in history?

        • March 22, 2017 at 11:51 am
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          So now FACT means the same as OPINION. What a state we live in when words mean the same things as their antonyms.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:13 pm
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            Hypothetical Court Scene:

            Prosecuting District Attorney: Your Honor, the Defendant is being investigated by the FBI, and …

            Judge: Do you have their results, and are they in the records submitted to the Court Clerk?

            Prosecuting Attorney: No, your Honor; they haven’t concluded their investi…

            Judge: Get out of my court! Now!

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:15 pm
            Agent says:
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            I wonder what the odds are that Comey will find all the leaks coming from the security agencies from the Obama holdovers. Looks like a lot of swamp draining will have to be done.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:20 pm
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            Polar just asked me for evidence of Russian/Trump collusion. I ask this – where is evidence of Obama wiretapping Trump Tower? HJAHAHAHAHAHDAKNAHAHHAHAAH YOUR PROPHET DOESN”T KNOW WHEN TO SHUT UP. LMAO

          • March 22, 2017 at 3:58 pm
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            Polar, so I know you have had some fun at the expense of Nancy Pelosi Galore. I saw a picture today proving she has been greasing the American people since the 50’s. She was named Miss Lube Rack of 1955 in her home district. No wonder she became a politician. By the way, she was just an ugly face in a bathing suit way back then.

          • March 22, 2017 at 5:28 pm
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            @Conserving: I asked first. Ready, steady, …. GO!

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:21 pm
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            @Libitterals; what does this mean if you think / “know” TrumPresident is lying?

            http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

            Why would Dems be upset about being shut out?

          • March 23, 2017 at 9:21 am
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            @CTT: for evidence you seek, review the reports by Nunes yesterday… they’re all over the internet, liberal and conservative sites alike.

          • March 23, 2017 at 2:55 pm
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    Evidence of wire tapping? Please, please provide anything. The DOJ had nothing. Literally nothing. You do realize that as Trump was live tweeting the hearing Comey was literally disputing what he was saying in real time???? LMAO. If Trump would just shut up for 3 weeks he may gain himself some respect. Egomaniacs, however, are incapable of doing that soooooo we willllllllll seeeeee. Your President is a joke. No one fears him. We feel bad for him. He is a joke. Nothing more. Nothing less. Let me guess your response – it will have to do with either Obama and Clinton or how I am some socialist shill or how I am a bot. lmao. No one here has to say anything bad about you two you do it to yourselves. The more you support this absolutely laughable president the more laughable you become. Even Fox said his approval rating was low. come on.

    • March 22, 2017 at 3:05 pm
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      Breaking news troll. The transition teams was being surveilled by NSA. Since they were doing a lot of meeting in Trump Tower at the time, it follows they were guilty. They sure were worried about what he might do when he took office, weren’t they? The leaks have to be found and the sorry dudes need to be prosecuted.

      • March 22, 2017 at 3:26 pm
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        Polar, when does incidental picking up of “chatter” graduate to wire tapping? When does leaking information not become a felony?

        • March 22, 2017 at 3:32 pm
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          THERE IS NOT EVIDENCE OF WIRE TAPPING. NONE. Also, COMEY WASN’T SO CORRUPT WHEN HE HELPED LITTLE D BECOME PRESIDENT NOW WAS HE?

          YOU ARE SINKING.

          Let me remind you of Trump’s tweet word for word “Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my “wires tapped” in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”

          LMAO CLASSIC LITTLE D

        • March 22, 2017 at 5:32 pm
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          @Confusing the Truth:

          See the story on Flynn on CREDIBLE news sites. The phones were tapped to listen to his conversations.

          • March 23, 2017 at 8:04 am
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            There is no evidence that Flynn was being monitored, only the Russians with whom he was speaking.

          • March 23, 2017 at 10:47 am
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            LOL at Libitteral word parsing.

          • March 23, 2017 at 2:56 pm
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            @Ron; consider the implications of the hypothesis of one of the two WP Watergate Journalists…. some credibility to his perspective, according to Dems in 1973…

            http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/woodward-obama-officials-possibly-facing-criminal-charges/article/2618185

      • March 22, 2017 at 3:30 pm
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        Breaking news: Agent once again tries to push a false narrative based on incomplete information. I’m sure Yogi isn’t too far behind.

        We do all realize that U.S. intelligence agencies routinely and legally monitor the communications of foreign officials regardless of with whom they are speaking, yes?

        • March 22, 2017 at 3:43 pm
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          Little troll, were the Trump transition team foreign officials? First I have heard of that. Sounds to me like the NSA were doing illegal things against the new incoming administration and then may have leaked it. We should get to the bottom of this. By the way, stay off Moveon.org. Soreass runs that nefarious and illegal outfit.

          • March 22, 2017 at 4:00 pm
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            Agent,

            You are the best type of troll. Really, you are. You are the troll convinced they aren’t actually trolling. You truly believe everything you say here. I am partly convinced Polar is a standard troll – just saying things for reactions..but you, Agent…you are a miracle. You are truly astounding. You drink from the well because it tastes like water but don’t realize the sign above it says “water flavored poison”. You are miraculous and deserve praise for who you have managed to be for all this time. I applaud you.

          • March 22, 2017 at 4:13 pm
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            “We should get to the bottom of this.”
            I agree! Who do you trust to lead the investigation?

            “Were the Trump transition team foreign officials?”
            Do you think the foreign folks ONLY talked to other foreign folks? Regardless of who’s on the other end of the call, the call will be monitored if one party is a foreign official.

            “Sounds to me like the NSA were doing illegal things…”
            That’s because you don’t understand what is legal and illegal regarding communication monitoring of foreign officials.

            Just because you say it tastes like chicken does not mean you’re eating chicken. I’d argue you’re actually eating crow!

          • March 22, 2017 at 5:37 pm
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            Conserving the Truth = troll calling other people trolls because they put forth facts he doesn’t want to accept.

            The legality of NSA monitoring REQUIRES a FISA Court Order.
            None were issued. Explain that, Conserving the Trolling.

          • March 23, 2017 at 2:58 pm
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            @Confusing the Truth; what does this mean for Obama’s Shadow Govt?

            http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/woodward-obama-officials-possibly-facing-criminal-charges/article/2618185

            First one to squeal on the rest gets immunity from prosecution…

            Last one to fall will be the biggest fish.

  • March 22, 2017 at 3:27 pm
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    Agent,

    Thank you bringing up a great point! All these filthy, sneaky illegal little leaks. Oh, the leaks! How horrible the leaks! Funny how great the leaks were just months ago when they exploited Clinton. Also, looks like your country saving health care repeal is a few votes to short to pass. =( HAHAHAHAH.

    Also, looks like your good ol’ pal Paul Manafort (Trump’s former Campaign Chair fyi) WORKED FOR A RUSSIAN BILLIONAIRE. These ‘coincidences’ just keep adding up, huh? Word on the street is his mission was to advance Putin’s political interests. Google it.

    Also, your good ol’ boy Mattis (someone who is actually showing signs of being a true American) is getting a lot of hate from Hill Republicans because he isn’t cooperating with their corruption. Lmao.

    Here is another great one – Rex Tillerson , showing regret for taking his job as Sec of State, said he only took the job “because his wife said God wanted him to” HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH CLASSIC REX

    Here is one of my favorite headlines of the day – truly classic – CONSERVATIVE radio host and former Colorado Republican party chairman Steve Curtis was quoted saying, “it seems to me that virtually every case of voter fraud I can remember in my lifetime was committed by Democrats” ….Really, really great Steve.

    GUESS WHO HAS LITERALLY JUST BEEN ACCUSED OF VOTER FRAUD BY COLORADO PROSECUTORS???? IN THE 2016 GENERAL ELECTION GUESS WHO FILLED OUT AND MAILED HIS EX-WIFES 2016 BALLOT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!

    STEVE CURTIS!!!!

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

    • March 22, 2017 at 3:33 pm
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      Hypocrisy runs wild in politics, be it from republicans, democrats, independents, etc.

      • March 22, 2017 at 3:46 pm
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        Confused,

        Thank you for your common sense. It is a rare thing in this part of the internet. Thank you.

      • March 23, 2017 at 2:59 pm
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        Leaks, you say?

        http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/woodward-obama-officials-possibly-facing-criminal-charges/article/2618185

        First to squeal on the Obama Shadow Govt gets immunity from prosecution.

        It’s all about to collapse like an igloo of cards.

        • March 23, 2017 at 5:33 pm
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          Polar, we all remember the 20 something Czars that Obama hired to run the Shadow Government for him. The departments, agencies were there to implement their orders. Anyone remember Cass Sunstein? One of their biggest Commies and he was a Czar.

          • March 23, 2017 at 6:17 pm
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            Agent,

            Oh, Agent. Why do you keep doing this to yourself? Same to you, Polar. Please. Please just…understand this. Opposition to your false prophet does not automatically equate to “WOOT WOOT OBAMA IS DA BEST”…in fact…Obama was a failure in many, many different ways. I didn’t like Obama. I hate Trump. OH NO HOW DO YOU CLASSIFY ME???? You both are still shoved so far up Obama’s anus that you cannot even acknowledge when your false prophet does something wrong. Look – the answer to this isn’t the obtuse reaction from extreme liberals but the way you two are treating this is just as dumb, probably worse. To completely ignore this is irresponsible at best and dangerous at worst. If your constant scapegoat Obama had a tenth of the involvement with Russia that Trump does you would be on here calling for his head. Do yourselves a favor and either learn how to properly defend a President who is actively committing treason or just don’t respond at all. You keep diverting and it shows so much about not only your ability to debate but more so your overwhelming delusion. Trump is not your friend. A lot of his voters are coming out and admitting they made a mistake. It isn’t too late but soon it will be.

    • March 22, 2017 at 3:46 pm
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      You are quite a sore loser Buzzfeed Fake News dude, aren’t you? Apply to be a White House correspondent and you can ask Spicer your gotcha questions? Of course, be prepared to have your head handed to you.

      • March 22, 2017 at 4:02 pm
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        Agent…
        sweet, sweet little Agent. Please reference another comment I just left for you. Good comeback, big guy! You really got me! I am so proud of you. =)

        • March 22, 2017 at 4:37 pm
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          Conserving the Lie, everyone on this site knows you are one of those multi monikered leftist trolls that graduate from one moniker to another and try to hide mine and Polar’s posts. Don’t even bother to deny it. Confused is just a young misguided guy who learned the wrong things in school and hasn’t yet realized the error of his ways. Bob tried to work with him for over 6 months to no avail. Eventually, he may grow up when he hits his mid 30’s or he may stay the same as Ron and be a leftist Progressive his whole life.

    • March 22, 2017 at 5:38 pm
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      Where are the FISA Court orders allowing the wire taps of TrumPresident’s associates? Hmmm?

      Something that the Liberal News Orgs forgot to check really comes back to bite them on their arses, AGAIN!

      • March 23, 2017 at 9:02 am
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        As long as ONE of the parties on the phone call is a foreign official, no court order is required.

        You can thank George Bush & the Republicans for loosening the FISA restrictions — read up on the Protect America Act of 2007 and you’ll hopefully come to understand that monitoring foreign official calls without a court order is perfectly legal.

      • March 23, 2017 at 9:27 am
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        NOT the ones involving foreign officials…. the OTHER calls they tapped.

        • March 23, 2017 at 9:37 am
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          Please be specific – what OTHER calls are you referencing?

          Are you only talking about what Nunes has spoken about recently, or is there something else? Be specific so we know EXACTLY what calls (or who is speaking about them) you’re talking about.

          Because if it’s just the Nunes item you’re talking about, it’s legal per the FISA PAA act I just posted. To wit:

          Nunes said the surveillance collection was “legally collected foreign intelligence under FISA incidental collection.”

          He also said how they obtained the calls was routine and legal. “It looks to me like it was all legally collected.”

        • March 23, 2017 at 9:38 am
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          What other calls? Provide your evidence.

        • March 23, 2017 at 10:50 am
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          Other calls they made… NOT involving foreign officials.

          The issue raised last week was unmasking of the individuals involved in ALL of the calls. THAT is damning evidence against the BHO Shadow Govt.

          • March 23, 2017 at 11:11 am
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            Please define your current use of the word ALL.

            Does ALL really mean ALL right now? Do you really think ALL of Trumps calls (including those by his party) were monitored?

            Or does ALL really mean “only the calls where one the person on the line was a foreign official”, because then I agree.

            Or by ALL are you really just saying SOME of the calls were monitored?

            Please define ALL so we know if we should to take your words literally or if you meant it hyperbolically

          • March 23, 2017 at 11:53 am
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            PolarBeaRepeal,

            You constantly ask for evidence regarding accusations made by others, yet never provide any when asked.

          • March 23, 2017 at 1:11 pm
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            Confused and Ron,

            The weak do not normally have reasons for why they are weak. It is simply their disposition. I am going to share with you hard truth about Polar and it may surprise you. Well, probably not. He is simply interested in ‘winning’. Truth means nothing. Logic means nothing . The American people mean nothing. Consequence means nothing. The sole driving force behind his existence is ‘winning’. Here is the latest and probably best example : the American Health Care Act. It is absolute garbage designed to reduce costs for the rich and increase them for anyone who isn’t swimming in cash. Facts tell us this. Statistics show us this. There is no debate. It is truth. Polar, however, refuses to admit this. He is standing behind this demented piece of legislature because if it passes, well, Republicans ‘win’. That is all there is to this. He is not one of deep thoughts. He is not analytical. He is not intellectual. He is a forerunner of fabrication. He is solely interested in ‘winning’ no matter what the consequences of ‘winning’ may be.

            Good day to you both.

          • March 23, 2017 at 3:01 pm
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            Unmasking issue explained for those too thick to understand my comments…. read Woodward’s legal take on the Shadow Govt and the ongoing sedition that is about to collapse like an igloo of cards.

            http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/woodward-obama-officials-possibly-facing-criminal-charges/article/2618185

          • March 23, 2017 at 4:07 pm
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            Conserving the Truth,

            Excellent post and spot on. This is also an accurate description of President Trump.

          • March 23, 2017 at 4:17 pm
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            Polar,

            Woodward is currently irrelevant considering our President most likely committed hard treason. Quit diverting. Either stick up for your President like a man (a misguided one, but one nonetheless) or open your eyes and admit something is going terribly wrong. Quit diverting. We do not care about Woodward. Quit diverting.

      • March 23, 2017 at 2:32 pm
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        Polar,

        It is not sooooooooo ironic you have been mentioning bots so much because it is now being reported by many, many news outlets that Russian bots were employed to spread fake news stories about Clinton to help Trump win the election. They are investigating where the BOTS were hosted and well, your good ol boys at INFOWARS and BREITBART are two of the main outlets they are saying are responsible. LMAO. This keeps getting better and better. BTW – if Trump were so innocent why does he keep putting space between himself and those who are being investigated ? Ex. Manafort, Flynn, Nunes…many others.

        • March 23, 2017 at 3:04 pm
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          http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/woodward-obama-officials-possibly-facing-criminal-charges/article/2618185

          Oopsy!

          The FIRST member of the Obama Shadow Govt to squeal and turn state’s evidence against the rest of the rats will get immunity from prosecution.

          This is going to be better drama than the Watergate Hearings.
          And Benghazi hearings will pale in comparison.

          • March 23, 2017 at 5:36 pm
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            The only question I have is who the next “Deep Throat” will be to unmask the Shadow Government to avoid prosecution.

        • March 23, 2017 at 3:06 pm
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          Psst; BOTs can use spoofing to mimic an IP addy.

          Ask your friends at Starbucks to explain that tech stuff to you.

          • March 23, 2017 at 3:23 pm
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            Polar,

            Stop. Give up. Your President is being accused of hard treason and the evidence is mounting. You are trying to divert and it won’t work. One thing most conservatives have it common is when they are faced with a truth about themselves they almost always respond with, “Well, THIS PERSON DID THIS, TOO” or “HA, OBAMA THIS BLAH BLAH”.

            Nothing you have shared changes the fact that Trump is in bed with Russia. Think about that. Putin owns Trump. He owns him.

          • March 23, 2017 at 3:25 pm
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            Polar,

            Desperate men making desperate decisions. Open your eyes. The greatest men are not those who are always right but rather those who can admit fault amidst great consequence. This will not get better for you.

          • March 23, 2017 at 3:52 pm
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            Polar,

            For a moment I am choosing to disregard and malice/annoyance I may toward you and do my best to understand your plight. You want me to be wrong because if I am right you will certainly feel a great deal of regret/remorse. If I am right…well, Trump is not only the worst President to ever lead our country but perhaps one of the worst politicians to ever exist. If I am right everything you have been fighting for will have been in vain.

            I ask you to consider this, though. What if I am right? What if the stories are true? What if Trump did lie and continues to lie? Let us not disagree further regarding the facts but instead ponder the possibility. What if I am I right? What then? What happens if I am right, Polar? I ask this sincerely. If I am wrong I will apologize for spreading what turned out to be false information. What happens if you are wrong?

          • March 23, 2017 at 3:53 pm
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            edit: any*

            and

            I may FEEL* toward you

  • March 23, 2017 at 10:54 am
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    Agent and Polar,

    You claim I am a bot/multiple moniker account man because you fear my thoughts. You fear me because I used to be like you but have grown up like all conservatives should. You fear me because I sharing the truth. Your rebuttals are predicable and without substance. “Socialist this…” “Killary that” “Obama Obama Obama” …”You are the true troll blah blah”. No, I am the harbinger of truth and you are simply another tiny pillar that is soon to fall standing up for your false prophet. He lied to you.Once you accept this things will improve greatly for you. He lied to you. Big things. Small things. The more excuses you make the worse it will feel for you when the inevitable happens.

    • March 23, 2017 at 5:38 pm
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      I fear nothing from a Progressive Socialist Troll like you. You are one misguided individual and brainwashed to boot.

      • March 23, 2017 at 6:38 pm
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        That’s all you got, huh? Progressive socialist libotteral troll. that is all you have and all you ever will have because you have no true argument of substance against me. You try to pigeonhole me because you have no proper way of ‘categorizing’ me. Weakness. It is your weakness. It is your weakness and it will continue to be until you open your eyes. Seeing Trump for who he is does not mean you aren’t American. It doesn’t mean you are a hypocrite or weak or a liberal. It means you are sensible. Sensibility used to be what the Republican party was all about. NOw it is a joke because people like you are having a hard time realizing WE made a mistake. Agent, we made a mistake. I am admitting it. You can, too. I am not here for an “ahaaa’ moment. I am here to spread truth and nothing but it. There is a poison spewing from our White House. How long will you drink it? Make assumptions all you want. They mean nothing to me because none of them are true.

        • March 24, 2017 at 3:40 pm
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          Conserving the Lie, you are more interested in spreading lie’s than the truth. Progressive Socialists are the biggest liar’s this society have ever known. You are like little lemmings that jumped right in the pit after Obama. Now, pray tell me why he is Community Organizing again to try to take down Trump. No other former President has ever behaved this way. Could it be he is a bit peeved that Trump is taking down his miniscule legacy and is screaming like a child? He did a lot of damage to this country, but thank goodness the country is resilient and we have the right leader in place to do it.

          • March 27, 2017 at 9:17 pm
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            You lie about everything, and I literally everything I have ever seen you post that can be fact checked has been wrong.



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