Making a Federal Case Out of ‘Legal’ Marijuana Insurance Claims

By | April 11, 2017

  • April 11, 2017 at 11:29 am
    lovingc says:
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    Remind me not to buy insurance from this guy.

    • April 14, 2017 at 7:12 am
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      re-posted:

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      Johnston is so stoned that he doesn’t understand Federal Law supersedes state laws. Further, the lack of enforcement of Federal Laws by the PRIOR White House regimes DOES NOT nullify those laws. Watch what Jeff Sessions does very soon.

      One court case is worthy of comment now. The person whose ‘medical marijuana’ plants were stolen was not likely a LICENSED GROWER in that state. Hence, those plants were ILLEGAL. But don’t expect stoners to understand the legal logic of that statement.
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  • April 11, 2017 at 12:59 pm
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    • April 11, 2017 at 3:09 pm
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    • April 11, 2017 at 3:26 pm
      Rosenblatt says:
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      I’d like to better understand your thought process, PBR.

      I have seen you post in other places here that you are an advocate for letting states regulate themselves and getting the federal government out of the state’s way (specifically with health insurance but, I presume, for other matters as well.)

      Putting aside that I don’t think anyone in their right mind would sincerely try to argue marijuana is a Class 1 substance (please note I am NOT implying this is your stance, it’s just a general comment), why are you against individual states regulating themselves in this instance?

      • April 11, 2017 at 3:41 pm
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        • April 11, 2017 at 4:04 pm
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          I appreciate your elaboration and was not attempting to say you contradicted yourself, hence the intro “I want to understand your thought process.”

        • April 11, 2017 at 4:30 pm
          Curious says:
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          But the pollutions that can cross state lines…. You want the Fed regulations governing that aspect to be removed?

          • April 11, 2017 at 6:02 pm
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          • April 14, 2017 at 7:13 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            re-posted:

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            Nowhere did I say ‘removed’.

            Lessened, modified, eased, etc.

          • April 17, 2017 at 9:44 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Pollution can move across the globe. Did you send an email to China to tell them to stop polluting? Obama did, but gave them 30 years to ‘cut it out’, and not ‘cross his new red line’, or he’ll really get mad.

            What are you doing to prevent OTHER nations from polluting?

          • April 20, 2017 at 3:18 pm
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            Great point imbecYogi. Also, marijuana can move across state lines, so we shouldn’t do anything about it here until Amsterdam and Mexico have fully eliminated marijuana in their countries.

      • April 14, 2017 at 7:13 am
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        re-posted:

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        Drugs can cross state lines, as can other dangerous substances. Hence, Fed laws trump state laws. Nothing in my posts contradicts common sense application of laws by state or nationally for specific objectives.

        OTOH, states can regulate how their schools are run, police do their work, roads are built – to the extent interstate roads conform to federal standards or do not vary greatly enough to create hazards to interstate drivers.

        Schools and roads cannot move from state to state, whereas drugs can. Federal taxes and state taxes are both valid laws, existing simultaneously.
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  • April 11, 2017 at 1:28 pm
    Jack Kanauph says:
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    They should put some scientists on a project to detect THC levels in blood, figure out a safe limit for driving, legalize marijuana, and tax it for revenue.

    • April 11, 2017 at 3:28 pm
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      Hear hear! There’s so much legal money to be made off of taxing this, it baffles the mind why the federal government is so against it. They should rename ATF the ATMF (alcohol, tobacco, marijuana & firearms), lighten sentences for non-violent first time offenders, strengthen the DUI penalties and tax the bejesus out of the plant!

      • April 11, 2017 at 4:23 pm
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        • April 11, 2017 at 4:35 pm
          Yes, You says:
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          There is no evidence on any of your statements. especially as far as job production is concerned. As Colorado and the other states that are making an example of their new freedoms. There has been an increase in job production, a completely new market has been created.

          The is one simple answer to explain all of your posts. You are a fool. You know nothing. Never will. You believe you are a contributing member of society when in reality you are the parasite that continues voting to restrict personal liberties. I absolutely hope the worst for you.

          Thanks for your opinions.

          • April 11, 2017 at 5:45 pm
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          • April 11, 2017 at 6:08 pm
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          • April 20, 2017 at 3:08 pm
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            Nope, not me, just another person who reads your BS and instantly recognizes you for what you are.

            You make the same tired “gateway drug” argument every time, and then have nothing substantive to say when reality is brought up in reply. Just write “Get off my lawn,” it will save a lot of time.

        • April 12, 2017 at 9:42 am
          Mickey Dee says:
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          Agent, Are your facts about weed from the classic movie “Reefer Madness”? They are a bit outdated. I know people from my late ’70’s college days that still smoke pot but nothing more. They are productive people of society, never been arrested, don’t commit crimes… Many use pot the same way others use alcohol.

          • April 12, 2017 at 3:06 pm
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          • April 12, 2017 at 3:21 pm
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          • April 12, 2017 at 4:13 pm
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            I offer this challenge again to you, Agent: for every NONFICTIONAL person you can name who has said their drug habit BEGAN by using marijuana (not starting with alcohol then moving to marijuana, weed must come first) that lead them to use harder drugs, I will provide you with 2 names of functioning members of society who admit they use marijuana.

          • April 12, 2017 at 4:13 pm
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          • April 12, 2017 at 7:51 pm
            Conserving the Truth says:
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            Polar and Agent,

            How many weed related deaths each year? Okay, now how many alcohol related deaths each year? Just stop. You all are seriously an embarrassment to intellectual advancement. I bet you think putting people behind bars helps treat drug addiction, too. You are sick.

          • April 13, 2017 at 7:48 am
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            @CTT: the NUMBER of deaths for each drug is related to the legality and availability of the drug.

            Alcohol is legal, and consumed by MANY MORE people than weed. Thus, more DUI and similar deaths for alcohol than weed.

            The number of deaths each year is FAR from the total COSTS to society. There are MANY other costs from abuse of each drug. Deaths is an EASY argument to make, based on the fallacy I demonstrated above. A coherent, logical argument against each drug is more difficult to make because of the complexities involved in drug abuse as the effects ripple though society, affecting people other than the abusers.

            Your logic is that of a liberal.

          • April 13, 2017 at 8:07 pm
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            At 4:13 pm on 4.12.17, Confused offered to UNMASK multiple pot users!

            He’s probably a member of Obama’s Shadow Govt. Or, he could have been a ‘valuable’ member.

          • April 14, 2017 at 8:36 am
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            Yogitroll – it cannot be considered unmasking when people make non-anonymous public statements admitting to their marijuana use.

          • April 20, 2017 at 3:15 pm
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            Yogtard, the cost to society argument applies to guns, but the cost is much, much worse, so, obviously you must support banning guns, or at least much more severe restrictions and regulations on them, right?

            I know you must, because otherwise you could potentially seem like an inconsistent, unintelligent, moron to some people, especially if they know how history of lying about your degrees and credentials. I would hate for people to get that impression of you.

          • April 21, 2017 at 3:10 pm
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            I have concluded that the study of Millennials living at home ranging from 41% in NY to 47% in New Jersey include Confused. Failure to launch, failure to grow up and mature.

        • April 13, 2017 at 9:05 am
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          You have no knowledge of the matter, Agent. No one ever stops getting high from marijuana. Stop talking about this subject, you keep looking foolish every time you do.

          • April 17, 2017 at 3:38 pm
            RiceSusan Hacked the 2012 Election says:
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            Saying someone has no knowledge of a matter with which you disagree with the subject doesn’t make it so and doesn’t validate your position. You are dismissed from this conversation. Go to your safe room, now.

          • April 17, 2017 at 8:42 pm
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            You are making demands that NO ONE respects or will carry out. You are making judgements that FEW think make sense. And you are contributing nothing but incendiary remarks on a private comment board. You need to re-think your reason for being on this board, making demands and judgements about others you know little about.

            Finally, this should be enough to completely and finally refute ALL of the people who think mj is harmless;

            https://www.yahoo.com/news/mothers-suicides-dont-think-marijuana-harmless-092520631.html

      • April 14, 2017 at 7:14 am
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        RE-POSTED on behalf of Agent:

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        There is much more cost to society in the damage caused by Recreational use than taxes can accommodate. Many of the so called Recreational users graduate to more serious drugs when they can’t get a high from the weed. Crime always goes up. Job production goes down. Weed should not be used as a crutch to solve life issues.
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    • April 12, 2017 at 10:55 am
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      Why not both? The government can get rid of wasteful spending, crack down on fraud, etc, AND increase revenue with new taxes on marijuana. These actions can be done simultaneously – it’s not a “one or the other” type deal.

    • April 17, 2017 at 12:28 pm
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      That would be common sense, but by golly, our government is not ready for common sense!

  • April 11, 2017 at 4:24 pm
    Doug Spencer says:
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    How does supporting state schools thru lottery or increasing state taxation of marijuana ever limit the size government?
    Increased control of funds thru many state governments are efficient by design.

    • April 14, 2017 at 7:15 am
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      RE-POSTED to frustrate Libitterals trying to censor Conservatives’ opinions:

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      Revenue enhancement suggestion idea for Libs to consider:

      Allow uninhibited marijuana production in the US – – – for export at a 100% rate to foreign countries.
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  • April 11, 2017 at 6:10 pm
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    • April 11, 2017 at 10:20 pm
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      Wow your ideas are really bad…

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        RE-POSTED to frustrate Libitterals trying to censor Conservatives opinions:

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        Wow! YOUR ideas are bad, Really!
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    • April 12, 2017 at 9:41 am
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        • April 12, 2017 at 3:33 pm
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          • April 12, 2017 at 8:01 pm
            Conserving the Truth says:
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            “Per a guess by an IT guy I know” — this…classic, classic Polar. Making statements based on grand assumptions. What happened to President Bannon??

          • April 13, 2017 at 8:08 pm
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            What happened to President Hillary?

        • April 14, 2017 at 7:16 am
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          RE-POSTED to frustrate Libitterals trying to censor Conservatives opinions:

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          Stoners are using some tech tricks to switch IP addy’s, per a guess by an IT guy I know. They can’t do it quickly – so they must have time to kill. Libitteral geeky stoners are worst offenders.
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          • April 21, 2017 at 9:49 am
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            Your IT guy thinks you are an idiot and tells you something to make you go away. It takes about 1 minute, max, to change your IP and it does not take any tricks. That is if you are using a site like this one where they don’t allow anonymous use, and don’t even use encryption.

            Those 2 things are a big reason I’m rarely here anymore, they have to have a reason for not allowing secure, encrypted browsing, and it’s probably not one people would agree with.

  • April 13, 2017 at 9:11 am
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    Thank GOD the ideologies we are hearing from the old, white, alt-right are coming from a dying breed…literally. Look at the Faux News demographic. We only have to wait about 15-20 more years tops before these thoughts are gone completely. Tick tock…

    • April 13, 2017 at 8:09 pm
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      More death wishes? You are one SICK individual. Get psychiatric help.

      • April 14, 2017 at 10:03 am
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        No death wishes at all. I’m just stating a fact, that ideology is old and hence, dying. And, we all die. C’mon, man, get real!

        • April 14, 2017 at 7:14 pm
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          We all get smarter as we age, and many of the smarter ones become Conservative. C’mon man, get smarter; get mature!

          • April 17, 2017 at 9:47 am
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            Some, like Bernie and John Kerry and Maxine Waters and Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren and Al Gore and Hillary NEVER got smarter when they age. They remained liberal, despite all the facts and stats available to prove them wrong in supporting Socialism / Communism.

            The Darwinian Law of the Fittest applies to politics, too!

          • April 17, 2017 at 12:16 pm
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            Polar, Progressive Socialism, the precursor to Communism has never worked anywhere in the world that it has been tried. Progressives love to control and subjugate people. The prior POTUS tried to rule by executive fiat and how did that work out? Not too well judging from the last election.

          • April 17, 2017 at 12:59 pm
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            @Agent; libitterals can’t understand how youth who embraced socialism became conservative when they aged. Their teachers brainwashed them, and you get posters like Conserving the Truth, Confused, and Celtica, among others, telling us that WE (Conservatives / Libertarians) are a dying breed.

            Libitterals need to LOOK IN THE MIRROR after the last ten years of loss after loss of Democrat seats in the US Congress, and in State Legislatures, and loss of Governor seats in states not on an ocean coast.

            Libitterals do not understand that liberals and independents turn into Conservatives and Libertarians as they age and gain insightful life experiences; i.e. wisdom. And reading the taxes paid on their first few paychecks converts some recent college grads into Conservative much quicker. Apparently, UW, CTT, Celtica, and Captain Planetoid have a lot of ‘aging’ to do before they can contribute to informative discussions about politics.

          • April 21, 2017 at 10:08 am
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            If this is you “smarter” after aging I am truly horrified at young Polron.

            What you are claiming is a myth, of course. Older people now were largely brought up during the conservative revolution, they didn’t become conservative. People tend to be liberal when young and then against further change when they are old, making them by definition conservative. Look at the older people like you and Agent. You are clearly racist, but wouldn’t support going back to segregation. This position would be viewed as liberal when you were younger or just before, depending on your ages, but it’s “common sense” now. You don’t however support equal rights for homosexuals, because it’s further than during your time, and you don’t support modern policies based on modern economics or science, you want the science and societal norms from your bygone time enforced so you are viewed as conservative.

            It has little to do with actual ideology, but a shift in the Overton Window, which over the long-term is always shifting left, despite the best efforts of people like you. That pretty much sums up all of human history; a long struggle slowly moving towards more and more liberalism against anti-intellctual conservatives. Hate to break it to you-back to your cartoons.

            Most studies on this have just looked at self-identification, not actual ideology. When ideology is analyzed it doesn’t hold up. If you turned 18 under presidents Ford-Bush I you were more likely to vote Republican than the national average. These people are now “old.” They have always been conservative, they didn’t become “smarter.”

  • April 17, 2017 at 5:43 am
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    It is safe, there are safe ways to use it. Allow people to grow their own plants, and allow commercialization to offer their products and services. I’m sure “weed” is being “fought” for some reason, but the problem isn’t its use. The worst thing about it is… getting caught with it. Write your representatives, network with other like minded people around the state, make it a wedge issue for your support if you feel so inclined.

    • April 17, 2017 at 12:50 pm
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      LOL @ how wrong you are on all of your claims and your sad plea to enlist help to make weed legal. It’s Darwin’s Law of Survival of the Fittest that tells us brain-damaging weed users will fail to persuade anyone who can think straight to help legalize pot.

      • April 17, 2017 at 12:53 pm
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        Polar, the young man who killed 13 in the accident in Texas had both prescription medicine, marijuana cigarettes, both smoked and unsmoked in his vehicle and on top of that was texting while driving. That turned him into a killing machine.

        • April 17, 2017 at 1:02 pm
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          Sad. Hopefully, more people learn the lesson about weed, scrip med abuse, and distracted driving.

    • April 17, 2017 at 3:38 pm
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      Hear hear! There’s so much legal money to be made off of taxing this, it baffles the mind why the federal government is so against it. They should rename ATF the ATMF (alcohol, tobacco, marijuana & firearms), lighten sentences for non-violent first time offenders, strengthen the DUI penalties and tax the bejesus out of the plant!



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