Weed Warning: Legalizing Marijuana Tied to Rise in Crashes in 3 States by HLDI

June 23, 2017

  • June 23, 2017 at 9:02 am
    Zarberg says:
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    Isn’t 3% just above the statistical margin of error?

    • June 23, 2017 at 10:24 am
      cfbcfb says:
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      Why yes it is!

      And what they leave out is that 90%+ of the people who tested positive for weed also were over the line on alcohol and often other drugs.

      But it was the pot!!!1! Reefer Madness!!

    • June 23, 2017 at 2:48 pm
      VladiBear The Georgian says:
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      Nope. Go back and read to what the 3% refers and report back once you fully understand the term ‘significance’.

      While I have time to post today, let me add that the fatality rate is a tiny percentage, which is subject to a high degree of volatility. For those with greater stat knowledge, the CV is higher than for other claim types.

      I am glad to edify you on this important matter.

      PS I was certain BEFORE I opened the comment section that there would be several posters twisting the results to try to persuade others that the influence of pot is positive. LMAO!

      • June 24, 2017 at 10:18 pm
        Gina Gelles says:
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        …and we anticipated BEFORE opening the comment section that people who have no clue to what the true affects of smoking marijuana are would be twisting these correlation statistics into their ignorant crusade against legalization. Driving under the influence is obviously not a marijuana legalization issue. It’s a personal choice issue. It’s not whether any substances are deemed legal or not, it is the whether the person can make proper decisions.

        • June 26, 2017 at 10:07 am
          VladiBear The Georgian says:
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          No stoner can make the right decision. No stoner can anticipate anything in a logical manner. No stoner should be allowed behind the wheel… or keyboard.

          • June 26, 2017 at 3:59 pm
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            Vladibear, stoners are in complete denial that they are destroying what is left of their brain matter with every joint they light up.

  • June 23, 2017 at 9:19 am
    Windy Girl says:
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    That’s only the accidents that you KNOW about. How about the little fender benders – I’ve had 2 rear-end accidents where I’m positive one was stoned and the other likely was a chronic user. You need to require blood testing for the substance on all accidents.

    • June 23, 2017 at 10:22 am
      Yup says:
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      The blood testing won’t prove if they were using during the time of accident or if they were using within the past month. great in theory, not so much in practice.

      Driving under any substance is terrible and there needs to be a way of monitoring and testing on the spot. unfortunately, this is just growing pains at the moment.

      • June 26, 2017 at 12:21 pm
        Denise Perchall says:
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        Marijuana stays in the system for 30 days, a test needs to be developed for the strength or levels in someone’s system … for better gauging in consumption; and not only for roadside testing, but also for workers compensation purposes.

    • June 23, 2017 at 2:49 pm
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  • June 23, 2017 at 10:18 am
    Deb Self says:
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    When they stop selling alcohol, I will been the band wagon of getting rid of weed… Alcohol kills way more than weed…. How about doing THAT comparison ?????

    • June 23, 2017 at 2:12 pm
      Dave says:
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      Alcohol is fine as long as not driving while consuming too much.

      • June 23, 2017 at 2:21 pm
        Agent says:
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        Dave, it is pretty easy to identify the users by the comments. They think they can handle it, but can’t. Colorado, Oregon and Washington State seem to be the worst, but it is getting bad all over. The only thing worse may be the cell addicts texting while driving. A pot user texting is one of the most dangerous drivers on the road.

        • June 26, 2017 at 9:46 am
          Fair Playing Field says:
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          It’s also pretty easy to identify the posturing blowhard by the negative reactions to his comments. ;-)

          • June 26, 2017 at 10:09 am
            VladiBear The Georgian says:
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            It’s easy to ID the Libitterals switching IDs by their derogatory comments that don’t address the topic because they’re on the losing side of the debate based on facts and credible, unbiased, RECENT studies.

          • June 27, 2017 at 2:49 pm
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            You have had about 20 different names. Please, try not to make a total joke of yourself and have a shred if self awareness.

          • June 29, 2017 at 7:27 pm
            VladiBear The Georgian says:
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            YOU have no more BOTs to censor me. Laughing my Ossoff!

    • June 26, 2017 at 11:55 am
      VladiBear The Georgian says:
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      We don’t need you on any bandwagon. Stoners will be shut down without their cooperation on a bandwagon, for the safety of innocent people.

  • June 23, 2017 at 10:40 am
    Blazestop says:
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    You can get studies and statistics to say whatever you like. I love the fox news picture on this story….cheech and chong smoke filled car….lmao.

    • June 23, 2017 at 2:51 pm
      VladiBear The Georgian says:
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      No you can’t. But you can get stoners and dopers to say what THEY want to try to continue for greater access to mind-damaging drugs.

      • June 24, 2017 at 9:59 pm
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        Mind damaging? Easy there with your ignorant rants… Mind altering is not the same as mind damaging. You shouldn’t air your ignorance on a topic in a public forum, it’s embarrassing for you.

        • June 26, 2017 at 10:11 am
          VladiBear The Georgian says:
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          Brain / mind damaging per recent, unbiased, credible studies of the impacts on cognitive abilities of long-term stoners.

          • June 29, 2017 at 11:44 pm
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            [citation needed]

  • June 23, 2017 at 11:20 am
    Sue says:
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    I agree alcohol is a problem. I don’t understand how legalizing marijuana is going to help with the alcohol problem. Instead of making things worse by adding another substance to the “problem” mix, let’s eliminate additional problems and then work to curtail existing problems.

  • June 23, 2017 at 11:26 am
    kraken says:
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    No mention of the increase in population in these states. Don’t you suppose that that would increase the accident rates? This is a blatant lie trumped up by corporate scum. Yet again, the main stream media has been caught spreading lies for corporations.

    Why? So they can shove pills down our throat instead?

    • June 23, 2017 at 12:44 pm
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      I think they might have controlled for that since they compared it to nearby states. Unless they grew or shrank at a much different rate it should be pretty well managed (unless the researchers already directly accounted for that in the study).

    • June 23, 2017 at 2:15 pm
      Dave says:
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      Rates! Do you understand the meaning of rates? The rate of accidents per 1,000,000 miles driven are up. Any increase in population takes that into effect. Also please be aware, any change in population does not necessarily have any impact on accidents. Who knows how much the new people drive. What’s important is not the population, but how many miles are driven. I can tell you were not a math major.

      • June 24, 2017 at 10:35 pm
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        Hey Dave, I’m a math major (or was…). A rate is the comparison of two variables. When rates are comparing accidents per distance, population is not factored into the equation. Only accidents per distance driven. Population does need to be a factor as well and your statement dismissing this as a variable in play shows that you lack the knowledge on how to apply statistics and thus probably cannot analyze them as well. Real statisticians, not journalists, would use a weighted equation with many variables to prove causation. These “rates” that you and the Georgian guy cannot understand are a correlation test (comparing two variables only), Through those tests, it can only be shown that the two variables change similarly, but it cannot illustrate that one variable is causing the other to change. This type of statistical deception is a common tool used by those who want to spin statistics into supporting their own agenda.

        • June 26, 2017 at 10:13 am
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          If you had read the article you would know they did include other control variables. You would also know that if you had looked up the study before dismissing it on the methodology you didn’t research for even 1 second. They used multiple states, border states, etc. Using population growth as a control variable could be useful, but likely it wasn’t statistically significant, because it would make no sense.

    • June 23, 2017 at 2:52 pm
      VladiBear The Georgian says:
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      Psst; what does the term ‘rate’ mean?

  • June 23, 2017 at 1:58 pm
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    When this issue was presented to the Legislatures in Olympia, our agents association had their annual I-day in Olympia with the State Representatives.
    I specifically asked why they would vote for the sale and use of drugs (marijuana)in the state of Washington. Everyone of them said the same thing, it will bring in more money for the state.
    Now we can see the results of the what may be coming in the way of more accidents.

    • June 24, 2017 at 10:37 pm
      Gina Gelles says:
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      …I doubt legalization is the only factor involved in increased traffic problems.

      • June 26, 2017 at 10:13 am
        VladiBear The Georgian says:
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        If YOU doubt it, then that settles it. It does cause problems. But, we all knew that, so thanks for nothing.

  • June 23, 2017 at 2:35 pm
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    Dave you’r hammered

  • June 23, 2017 at 2:42 pm
    Rusty says:
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    Hello! If drunk driving isn’t enough of a problem, why would we legalize another bad habit – one that involves people deliberately smoking weed – for one reason only – to get high? In response to another commentator, there have been more alcohol related deaths because weed hasn’t been legalized and as freely available as alcohol has been for many decades. Once legalized, it’s only a matter of time before weed related deaths surpass those related to alcohol and we’ll then have two major problems on our hands instead of one. That’s progress???

    • June 23, 2017 at 2:53 pm
      VladiBear The Georgian says:
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      Stop making sense! :)

      • June 23, 2017 at 3:54 pm
        Agent says:
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        Vlad, State Farm may lose $10 billion next year as a result of mind altering drugs causing accidents with their insureds.

        • June 23, 2017 at 4:14 pm
          VladiBear The Georgian says:
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          Holy moley! Where did they publish that estimate? Is that net after they pursue their subro rights against the at-fault nincompoop stoners insurers?

    • June 24, 2017 at 11:06 pm
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      First off: Alcohol causes a drastic change in a person’s motor skills. Marijuana does not do this. Your comparing apples to oranges. You need to understand that these two items can never be compared as far as what are their affects are on a human.

      Secondly, marijuana does not cause traffic accidents, people do. What are you into, Rusty? Do you like sports? I bet people get into accidents because they are distracted by the game on the radio. Make sport illegal (or radios). Do you have a family? How many accidents are caused by people’s family? Man has a disagreement with a member of his family. He drives while being altered by the stress. Gets into an accident. Make family’s illegal.

      Your logic is based on blaming things outside of the main cause of traffic accidents, which, of course is human error. Minimizing human error is the main objective of this whole debate. People want to blame outside stimuli, when in fact the problem is we are dealing with decision-making. To minimize all of this, people have to make the right choices and that is bottom line. Laws have nothing to do with anything, because people have the choice to adhere to laws or not. Outside factors influence the choices, but ultimately a person’s ability to choose to do what is best, what is safest is at question.

      Now…instead of trying to eliminate what causes people to make bad choices (which is impossible), try to come up with a way to get people to make proper choices.

      • June 26, 2017 at 10:15 am
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        You listed two erroneous points, which you enumerated in your post.

        So, when are you going to post facts and results of credible, unbiased studies that were recently published?

        • June 26, 2017 at 12:30 pm
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          You ignore facts and results from credible, unbiased studies all the time. What, all of a sudden you actually care about research and statistics? Is this a turning point for you on other things, as well?

          Can I quote your post every time you dispute a factual article with proper sourcing?

          • June 26, 2017 at 4:24 pm
            VladiBear The Georgian says:
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            Those aren’t completely factual statements and you know it.

          • June 26, 2017 at 5:07 pm
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            I am not saying what she posted is or is not factual, but you have been confronted with hard scientific statistical data multiple times from peer-reviewed studies in other topics and yet you continue trudging on under incorrect assumptions and faulty reasoning.

            Are we under the assumption that the next time scientific data is presented to you in a sourced manner, you will actually change your faulty logic and reasoning for science-based understanding, instead?

          • June 26, 2017 at 5:42 pm
            VladiBear The Georgian says:
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            Recent studies show credible evidence of lost cognitive skill in long-term users. I won’t debate with someone who uses outdated, erroneous studies, some of which are paid for by proponents of pot use.

          • June 26, 2017 at 5:43 pm
            VladiBear The Georgian says:
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            No, the sources I reject are NOT from credible sources. You saying they are don’t make them so.

          • June 28, 2017 at 9:55 am
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            “Recent studies show credible evidence of lost cognitive skill in long-term users”

            Just saying they exist and posting what you think they found doesn’t mean anything. What’s the name of those studies?

            No.

            Forget that.

            Name ONE study that supports that comment you made.

            Just one.

  • June 23, 2017 at 3:30 pm
    mr says:
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    The formula is a simple one. More people driving + more miles driven = more collisions.

  • June 23, 2017 at 3:45 pm
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    Texas is the State with the highest number of car accident fatalities in the United States. 2016 was the highest number of car accident fatalities in the past ten years in Texas. Marijuana is not legal here in Texas. Reasons for this increase is mainly distracted driving. Remember there are children growing up with cell phones that have developed habits of looking at their phones on a regular basis that are starting to drive. Marijuana is not the main culprit of an increase in accidents. It’s cell phones and distracting technology.

    • June 26, 2017 at 1:55 pm
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      Everything is bigger in Texas, including the car accident death rates and bigotry.

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        Not as big as in outer space, on an empty planet.

  • June 24, 2017 at 9:50 pm
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    It isn’t the legalization of pot that is causing this…it’s the abuse of a brand new statistic that is creating this “news”. Case in point, a person gets in an accident. The person was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Perhaps the road conditions were bad due to weather. Tests show that there is marijuana in the person’s system. It is therefore assumed that this is a result of legalization of marijuana which ofcourse is an obvious illogical conclusion. In mathematical terms: correlation does not infer causation…

    • June 26, 2017 at 10:17 am
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      Wrong. STRONG correlation implies causation concurrent with random events and lesser correlated factors; e.g. weak willed, mentally unstable, inappropriate associates/ friends.

      • June 26, 2017 at 12:31 pm
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        WTF is this post? All sorts of dog whistles in here.

  • June 26, 2017 at 8:55 am
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    You know who had to be high while driving? Our DB President who drove a golf cart across a green. Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! Impeach Pence first! Impeach Pence first! Impeach Pence first!

    • June 26, 2017 at 1:34 pm
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      No, I was making a sarcastic reference to the kid glove treatment Kennedy received following the incident. Perhaps I should begin annotating my comments for your benefit.

      Incidentally, you only need to add an “s” to “Kennedy” to make it plural, as you intended. The apostrophe was unnecessary and actually changes the meaning to singularly possessive, based on your placement.

      Stay in school, kids.

  • June 26, 2017 at 12:19 pm
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    Did the analysis take into consideration that the population in Colorado added 408,320 people from 2010 to 2015? We are the second-fastest growing state in the U.S. Our traffic is considerably heavier than ever. I imagine this increase would have skewed the numbers. When on vacation people always ask what it’s like now in Colorado. It is no different than before. These are probably the same people that assume we have 2 feet of snow all winter (shhh we really do and it is awful here don’t come to Colorado)!

  • June 26, 2017 at 2:54 pm
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    Say it ain’t so.

  • June 27, 2017 at 5:42 pm
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    I would love to hear a legalization supporter cite the science about the impact of THC on the brain. Then, how about the science about the contribution to mental illness. Not the posturing, but the science. How about addiction rates for users? Addiction rates for users in their 20s? Hello? Any informed legalization supporters? (Expected response: hateful drivel, with heavy “Reefer Madness” yelling.)

    • June 28, 2017 at 2:43 am
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      I, too, would love to know some of the key facts on the issue, since both sides seem to only want to scream louder that their position is infallible.

      One thing I do remember from studies I researched from college (never used it, religious faith and then common sense detracted me from trying it), is that Marijuana is not very addictive at all. I think the addiction rates were something like 7 or 9%.

      By comparison, every other major drug that I am aware of is far more addictive. This is scientifically speaking, of course.

      Remember: just because someone uses every day, doesn’t mean they are addicted, it just means that they have a routine or enjoy using it that often. I drink a Diet Dr. Pepper every day, but that doesn’t make me an addict.

      I saw many friends start smoking in high school who became losers, but I am not sure if that would have been their path the whole time or not. I saw other friends who never did any drugs follow similar paths of loser-ness. Just as well, our valedictorian was a heavy pot user and got a perfect score on her SATs, and went to an Ivy League school on a scholarship.

      One thing is for certain, however, and it is the 800-lb gorilla in the room: No drug is more destructive to families, personal lives, and work output than alcohol. Sure, PCP, Heroin, Meth, etc. are far more dangerous drugs, but alcohol is several times more damaging and destructive than all others combined. The only reason that getting drunk and losing self-control while drinking is okay is because of its pervasive presence in society.

      There are many scholarly societies currently researching the effect that marijuana use has on motor skills and, specifically MOTORING skills (driving), once results are made clear through peer-reviewed, double-blind studies, it will be made more clear. I couldn’t find any with results already reported, but it would make for excellent research. If marijuana does impair driving or other cognitive and motor skills, then driving under the influence of marijuana should be punished as heavily as it impairs function. If it is on the level of drunk driving, then penalties should be just as harsh.

      What research won’t affect, however, is the feeling that people have towards the drug. Yogi, for example, will always be anti-marijuana. You can tell that no scientific study or report, or even personal accounts from potentially someone close to him being prescribed marijuana to deal with nausea or pain would convince him. Since it has been illegal in the country for more than a century, people will always look at it like it is the be-all, end-all drug for turning decent youth into stark-raving mad losers with no self-control, goals, or abilities. All of this goes back to lobbying, of course. Tobacco growers were trying to protect their wallets, so they started spreading crazy false information about marijuana, which eventually lead to its ban. Reefer Madness is joked about, but it was legitimately marketed as “what actually happens” when people smoke weed. It has been rightfully mocked for decades now.

      Some of the most successful people you have heard of used marijuana on at least an irregular basis. Gold Medal olympic athletes, CEOs of the most valuable companies on the planet, presidents of the United States, and so on. These are people who require not just hyper-focus in their passions, but hardcore devotion to fine-tuning minute aspects of their lives. Just because someone smokes weed doesn’t make them a wasteoid or loser.

      At the end of it all, I am for Marijuana legalization because, like a true conservative, I don’t need government involvement in my daily life. If I am not hurting anyone, then I should be free to do what I please. I have no interest in ever trying it out, or anything other illicit drug, but I don’t look down on anyone else who does and still lives a productive life.

    • June 28, 2017 at 2:47 am
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      I hope you take to heart what I posted. No hateful drivel, no Reefer Madness yelling, or anything else. Personal experience tied to what science tells us about the drug mixed in with some historical background and so on.

      It is okay to be anti-marijuana, I am as a matter of principle for myself and my own family, but I am not a hypocrite about it, either. I feel the same way about every drug, tobacco and alcohol included. We can’t blanket ban one and welcome the other with open arms…

      • June 28, 2017 at 2:24 pm
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        With all due respect, you used lots of words but didn’t even answer the questions before going on a rant. Try again. What does the science say? Not your memory from college. Science. Addiction rates? THC’s impact on the brain? The connection to mental illness?

        Crickets.

        • June 28, 2017 at 2:49 pm
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          I was under the impression you were being respectful before, but with the “crickets” cap to your post, I can tell anything I post with studies will be met with summary ignorance/arrogance.

          Do you actually want to be educated? I am willing to pull the statistics and research for you, if only to help another person inch closer to a greater understanding of the world around them, but if you hand-wave it all, I will never respond to any more of your troll posts.

          btw, I prefaced the content of my post before with that caveat to make it easier to write and digest for the reader. In reality, every point I made was from a reference point of scientific research and studies whenever possible. When a person sees a screen full of stats, references and numbers, they oftentimes make it a habit to ignore the deeper meaning, or they get lost on one hang-up they have with one resource, which causes them to mentally discredit the entire rest of the content of the post.

          If you are honest in your endeavor to learn, I will be happy to provide data to answer your questions. I made it clear that I don’t know all the answers and would love to be educated further myself, so this will only help inform myself of the topic at hand, even if you do turn out to be a huge troll. :)

        • June 28, 2017 at 2:57 pm
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          Craig Cornell,

          With all due respect, why don’t you do your own research? If you are aware of scientific studies that support your position, please summarized and cite your source.

          Obviously there are going to be some negative consequences. The issue should be whether or not it is up to the government to decide what is best for the people or if people should have the freedom and liberty to decide what plant(s) they may consume. I have no issue using government funds to conduct studies and educate to populous so they may make intelligent decisions.

          • June 29, 2017 at 1:10 pm
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            I am fully aware of the statistics. They are peer-reviewed and quite concerning. Among other findings are 3 studies that indicate exposure to THC in the womb may be more damaging than exposure to lead. (Think Flint, Michigan.) Now, my point in all of this is how few people who support legalization actually know the downsides of legalization, how few people take pride in looking at both sides, how corrupt the media is not to talk about it at all. (Estimates are that a majority of African Americans smoke marijuana regularly, including many pregnant women. Where is the media warning out of concern for innocent black children?) Can I inform you? Not likely. Most likely I would get the usual attacks. Been there, done that. Intellectual honesty is a rare commodity on the internet.

          • June 29, 2017 at 1:28 pm
            Ron says:
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            Craig Cornell,

            Fair enough.

            My problem is how much time, resources and tax money is wasted by our government trying to protect us from ourselves. If we made everything that is harmful to people illegal, many things currently legal (cigarettes, alcohol, processed foods high in saturated fat, prescription opioids, etc) that are actually more harmful than marijuana, those against legalization would call that Socialism, Communism, Big Brother, etc.

            You can’t have it both ways.

            I prefer to educate the people and let them make their own decisions and live with the consequences. Do you want that to fall on the government?

    • June 28, 2017 at 10:15 am
      Ron says:
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      Craig Cornell,

      My support for legalization is based on the following:

      1. I do not want the government legislating morality or telling the people what plants they can and cannot consume. For the record, I have never have, and have no interest in ever, using marijuana.
      2. I want the government to stop wasting billions of dollars in law enforcement, courts and incarceration. Have law enforcement focus on crimes that actually harm others.
      3. Increase revenue streams for states.

      I hope this helps you understand a different perspective form a legalization supporter.

      • June 29, 2017 at 1:40 pm
        Craig Cornell says:
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        Fine. Those are valid arguments. What are the counter-arguments? The ones backed by the science on marijuana. Most people have no idea. You can say your arguments are superior, but only if you know the other side.

        • June 29, 2017 at 2:21 pm
          Ron says:
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          It is not about which argument may be superior. It should be based on what is best for a free society and what should be the role of government.

          This is one issue where small government Conservatives (not saying you are one or not) come across as hypocrites.

          • June 29, 2017 at 2:45 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            But if marijuana damages people in ways you are not aware of, wouldn’t you want to know what it does before you support putting anything new into the general public? What if a corporation did the same thing, releasing a product with damaging side affects without telling you?

          • June 29, 2017 at 3:02 pm
            Ron says:
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            That is why I continue to advocate for education.

            If legalized, marijuana would be coming from a corporation and would need to meet the same standards as current corporations.

  • June 27, 2017 at 7:55 pm
    VladiBear The Georgian says:
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    As time passes, we learn more about the dangers of pot use. Only those already indoctrinated into pot use by the subculture started in the late 1960s will remain unconvinced when faced with the insurmountable stats and credible, unbiased studies. In a few generations, only a small percent of the US population will be foolish enough to risk damaging their brains.

    • June 28, 2017 at 2:54 am
      Doug Fisher says:
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      You have no proof of this whatsoever. Marijuana use will continue to rise as more and more states legalize it on a medicinal and recreational basis.

      Some day, you may find it to be as regular has having a beer after work.

      I went to Denver for a Broncos game and smelled a few joints being smoked on the way from our hotel walking towards the stadium, about a mile and a half walk. At the same token, I saw several dozen people carrying and drinking alcohol. Some were obviously already nearing drunkeness, despite the game not having even started.

      Unless you can prove the supposed science of which you speak, I presume your post will be as scientific as your resources on climate change, economic policy, health care cost estimates, and so on.

      If you think I am wrong. Think of this:

      How many times have you been presented with factual data in the time you have been active posting on this site? How many times did it change your mind? How many times did it alter the way you live? I am guessing the over/under is 1…and that is being generous on my part, I reckon.

      “But, wait” you say, “I don’t consider those factual data resources.”

      Then we all laugh, shake our heads and remember that you don’t trust government reports, institutes of higher learning, scientists, the companies themselves (even when the news hurts them), and peer-reviewed studies. None of those are factual resources, apparently.

      The lone bastions of truth, in your mind, are conservative pundits.

      • June 29, 2017 at 1:55 am
        Doug Fisher says:
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        Is this where I put a snide “Crickets” post?

  • June 29, 2017 at 1:14 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    Hey Doug. I asked you to answer the questions. If you don’t know the answers, just say so.

    • June 29, 2017 at 3:14 pm
      Doug Fisher says:
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      Craig:

      “Then, how about the science about the contribution to mental illness.”

      I know this answer.

      “How about addiction rates for users?”

      Yep, this one, too.

      “Addiction rates for users in their 20s?”

      and this one…

      “Hello? Any informed legalization supporters?”

      Hi, how are you?

  • December 14, 2017 at 4:25 pm
    Jackinthehills says:
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    What they fail to state is the fact that these states are OBVIOUSLY experiencing more visitors and more people moving into the state. No crap there are more accidents as the Lure of the Legalization is bringing in more people from across the U.S.



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