This story is from Washington, LA…..not NOLA (New Orleans)….lately folks are very anxious to jump on
the bandwagon for bashing New Orleans !
“Reality”…..buy a map and do your research before you
chime in with your smart@$$ remarks !
how long has the ordinance been in effect? why give them another 5 days. the end result will be the same 5 days later. none of the owners have the money to buy the insurance and who is going to sell it in the first place?
He gave them 7 (seven) weeks to comply and not ONE complied, not ONE called to discuss. Only then were the dogs picked up and the “new” 5 day period was put into effect. These are all “low-lifes” who should not have any pets, probably.
The owners may be “low-lifes” who should not own pets, but it is not the guilty owners who are to be euthenized… it is the innocent dogs. It is always the dogs and the innocent who pay for the sins of others. I feel for the poor dogs who have not done anything wrong.
Instead they should require a weapons licence for dogs of this breed claibur that requires an annual license fee, plus continuing education requirements. Without having this, the dog is impounded, fines, or jail time imposed. Poodles & the majority of less dangerous breeds excluded.
Otherwise it’s like asking someone to voluntarily buy health insurance. Oh wait, oh no, dang it, some liberal’s might get an idea to include this liability in the proposed Obamacare (or is it already on one of those pages in the 10,000 page document?)…hmmmm
Breed specification legislation is completely groudless. Targeting any specific breed, the canine villian du jour happens to be “Pit Bulls”, is senseless. Most people, including animal control officers, cannot distinguish the physical charachteristics of a “Pit Bull” from other breeds anyway. Besides, other than the American Pit Bull Terrier, there is no such breed as a “Pit Bull” but rather that is a collection of several breeds that have been grouped under an umbrella. How about holding people responsible for their dogs’ actions, regardless of the breed, and stop with the widespread discrimination against certain animals. (In people, we call it racism!)
“Realist”, your comment shows that you have no experience in the matter and are incapable of engaging in intelligent debate with others. Adult discussions consist of much more than personal attacks and insults.
first of all, what gives them the right to euthanize these animals? there are many rescue agencies that would gladly take them off the officers hands! secondly, how many other breeds are considered dangerous? or is it just this one breed?! as you know, there are a variety of pit bulls – so are we classing them all together?
first of all, pit bulls can be trained to not be aggressive. the idea we just put them down makes me think of another situation…
how many folks have been sitting on death row?! how many years? so do we give these guys 5 days? NO and besides, the pit bulls did not commit a CRIME! someone needs to take this one to court… i can see the owners being fined for not having proper containment and registering the dog, but then if you have register this breed then you should be registering all breeds!
I don’t agree that the dogs should be euthanized, but I do agree that some action is necessary. The “pit bull” is unique in that it is the one breed that is as likely to attack an adult as it is likely to attack a child. Attacks on children are usually brought about because the child doesn’t recognize the warning signs of a dog on the defense, and will unknowingly provoke the animal to attack. Pit bulls attack adults and children with equal frequency, and as an underwriter, that’s what makes me squirm. While professionally I am “breed neutral” I will always be more suspicious and cautious when it comes to pit bulls. I look at the “care and control” of the dog to determine if the risk is worth taking; but every day I come across homes with pit bulls tied on a rope in an unfenced yard or with a fence that is ready to fall at any moment. (Luckily, I have an Animal Liability exclusion to work with in my back pocket.) If a person cannot take proper care and control of their animal, they are a liability to everyone around them. Fine them up the wazoo and make it too expensive for them to keep the animal.
On the front page of today’s Times-Picayune is an atypical article about a pit bull attack. As an 8-year-old girl walked down the street she was attacked by a pit bull that was being walked on a leash. When the girl saw the pit bull break free and charge her she froze and had the presence of mind to protect her head and throat. She was bitten 100 times. NEIGHBORS HAD TO LITERALLY BEAT THE DOG TO DEATH BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT LET GO OF HER MUTILATED ARM!
I live in an upper-middle class subdivision with 168 houses. There are 22 houses with pit bulls (the police told me). Pit bulls have either jumped over or dug under people’s fences in order to kill (read EAT) 6 cats and 2 dogs.
I am a 73-year-old woman who likes to walk her small dog. I carry my cell phone, a police whistle, a taser and an over/under .38 derringer loaded with dum-dums. I have tased 2 pit bulls (with collars) that charged me/my dog. They both died of heart failure. Another good weapon is a can of wasp spray. Its legal, if you’re lucky it will blind your assailant (man or beast), it shoots 15′ and it costs only $3.59 at Home Depot. I have it on the seat beside me in my car, too.
Homeowners insurance does not cover the liability on these dogs. If you are harmed by one of these beasts, you should sue the s – – t out of them and take their house. Unfortunately, many of the owners are renters. These two reasons are the foundation of this law.
Britain has made pit bulls illegal. Several other European countries will soon outlaw them, too. What does that tell you?
Tired…I just know I wouldn’t want to mess with you! You are certainly prepared!
The problem is the people, not the dogs. I own a Pit Bull mix. Several of my friends own Pit Bulls or Pit mixes including my dad. None of our dogs are aggressive and none of us allow our dogs to roam the neighborhood. I volunteer at our local SPCA which is full of Pits and I’ve never had a problem with any of them. Punish the deed, not the breed…or most times, the idiot owners.
You keep believing in fairy’s, P-gal. The stark reality is Pit Bulls cause TRAGIC deaths and injuries EVERY day in America. because of people like YOU- peiople with small brains……….
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2 women arrested after pit bulls maul 8-year-old
Posted 11 hours ago
…HAMMOND – An 8-year-old girl from Hammond is in fair condition after two pit bulls mauled her face, arms and legs. Natasha Oliver tells The Daily Star that her daughter, Mi’Kayja Oliver, underwent nearly eight hours of surgery at North Oaks Hospital. She says the worst injury was a torn artery…
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Pit bull attacks child
Posted Apr. 25, 2012
BATON ROUGE – Video surveillance captured, what the eight-year-old victim’s parents called pit bulls, jumping, scratching, biting and gang tackling a little girl. The victim’s parents did not want their identities released but said it happened Easter Sunday evening in a South Baton Rouge neighborhood. The girl suffered one deep laceration just above her left ankle that required internal and external stitches…
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Pit bull attacks child
BATON ROUGE – Video surveillance captured, what the eight-year-old victim\’s parents called pit bulls, jumping, scratching, biting and gang tackling a little girl….
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Pit bull owner cited after attack
Posted Apr. 2, 2012
WATSON- A young girl is recovering after a pit bull bit her over the weekend. Livingston Parish Deputies said the dog was chained up and behind a fence when the attack happened. “The child was in the vicinity of the dog, which was restrained, it was inside a fenced in area, not real sure what happened but the end result, the child had a pretty serious injury,” said Perry Rushing with the Livingston Parish Sheriff’s Office…
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Pit bull owner cited after attack
WATSON- A young girl is recovering after a pit bull bit her over the weekend. Livingston Parish Deputies said the dog was chained up and behind a fence when the attack happened….
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Woman cited after pit bull kills neighbor’s dog
Posted Feb. 10, 2012
HOUMA – Terrebonne Parish deputies say they ticketed a Houma woman after her pit bull dog leaped out of her car and killed a neighbor’s small poodle. Deputies said the attack happened Tuesday evening. According to The Courier the woman told police that the pit bull jumped out of her car…
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Again, “Realist”, you are incapable of intelligent debate without resorting to childish personal attacks and insults. You are a closed-minded, uneducated individual who clearly woon’t consider any point of view of conflicts with your own. Like so many others, you rely only on what you read, rather than experience, to dictate your opinion. You are part of the problem and why good dogs are put down everyday. I don’t know what’s occurred in your life to make you so spiteful and blind, but I pity you.
And I fear the likes of you, who jump on the media sideshow bandwagon and rely on it as factual. But I do have to cut you some slack, I believed in the media BS until I was given my Pittie 5 years ago; that little thing called “experience” which you so clearly lack.
DON’T TELL ME PIT BULLS GET A “BAD RAP”.
IF DARA LAPORA WERE ALIVE TODAY I DON’T THINK SHE WOULD BE SAYING ITS THE OWNER – NOT THE BREED
In the August 11 attack in California, Dara Lapora, an activist with BAD RAP (Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls), was killed by her own two-year-old male pit bull, which she raised from a puppy.
Pennsylvania Woman Carmen Ramos Killed By Her 5 Pit Bulls
A pack of five of her own pet pit bulls killed 50-year-old Carmen Ramos in her home on Tuesday, August 30, 2011, in Hunting Park, a neighborhood in North Philadelphia, PA.
In a morbid similarity to the recent death of Dara Lapora in Pacifica, Calif., Carmen Ramos’ bloody body was found in the living room by her husband when he came home from work.
Jose Alvarez, 55, said he came in to discover his wife being attacked by their five pit bulls in their home on W. Carey Street around 6:30 p.m., according to police.
When officers arrived, the bloody living room was in disarray and it appeared the woman had struggled and tried to protect herself from the brutal attack. They got the dogs upstairs, but it was too late to save the victim.
Carmen Ramos was declared dead at 6:45 p.m.
According to NBC News, neighbors said the dogs are vicious and had been terrorizing the neighborhood. “The dogs often got loose and they just ran around, everyone needs to run into their homes,” neighbor Carmen Gonzolez told NBC Philadelphia.
Neighbors also reported that the dogs had bitten a man last week and were taken away by animal control on Friday, August 26. They were returned to the home earlier this week and removed again on Tuesday–after Carmen Ramos death.
TIREDOFBEING”BULLIED” HAS DOCUMENTED WHAT ALL OF US KNOW. THESE MONSTERS ARE NOT FIT TO LIVE AROUND PEOPLE. EVEN THEIR OWNERS HAVE BEEN MUTILATED/KILLED BY THEM. OTHER DOGS MAY BITE, BUT PIT BULLS WON’T LET GO OF THEIR VICTIM.
Its our own fault that we are plagued with these monsters. All domestic dogs came from one common ancestor. Humans have bred different types of dogs for different purposes. What were pit bulls bred to do?
American Pit Bull Terrier
Main article: American Pit Bull Terrier
The American Pit Bull Terrier is the product of interbreeding between pit terriers and american bulldogs to produce a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the bulldog. These dogs were initially bred in England (THEY ARE NOW ILLEGAL IN ENGLAND)and arrived in the United States with the founders. In the United States, these dogs were used as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt and to drive livestock. Some have been selectively bred for their fighting prowess.
Terriers in general have a higher tendency towards dog aggression and American Pit Bull Terriers constitute the majority of dogs with this trait. In addition, law enforcement organizations report these dogs are used for other nefarious purposes, such as guarding illegal narcotics operations, use against the police and as attack dogs.
The fighting reputation of pit bull-type dogs led the San Francisco Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in 1996 to relabel pit bull terriers as “St. Francis Terriers” (not associated with the “terrier” mascot of St. Francis College in New York) so that they might be more readily adopted; 60 temperament-screened dogs were adopted until the program was halted after several of the newly adopted dogs killed cats. The New York City Center for Animal Care and Control tried a similar approach in 2004 by relabeling their pit bull terriers as “New Yorkies”, but dropped the idea in the face of overwhelming public opposition.
Pit bulls should be banned in cities because, if for no other reason, they have killed other people’s pets. My pets are my “children.” If a pit bull killed one of them I would go berserk and shoot the pit bull then sue the owners for everything they have and ever hope to have.
I ASK ALL PIT BULL OWNERS: IF PIT BULLS DIDN’T EXIST, WHAT KIND OF DOG WOULD YOU OWN?
NOW THAT WE HAVE THE INTERNET PIT OWNERS CAN’T “BULLY” US WITH “ITS THE OWNER, NOT THE BREED.” HUMANS BRED THESE DOGS TO BE LIKE THIS AND NOW THEY WISH THEY HADN’T.
READ ON….MY COMMENTS ARE IN CAPS
Dog Control
The Constitution Club ^ | 05-24-11 | Zazu
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:18:31 PM by TheConservativeCitizen
In recent years a growing list of nations and American municipalities have banned the sale, breeding, and ownership of pit bulls. Pit bull’s are a hard to define mix of American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, and other breeds, that is nevertheless instantly identifiable by the dogs appearance. Denmark and the United Kingdom ban the ownership of pit bulls, in Germany, the ownership of a pit bull is punishable by a two year prison term. GOT THAT – 2 YEAR PRISON TERM! Several US cities also ban the breed including major ones like Denver and New York. Dozens of federal and state lawsuits challenging the Constitutionality of Breed Specific Legislation (BSL) have thus far been unsuccessful at stopping the pit bull bans.
Supporters of pit bull bans claim the breed is simply too dangerous to keep. They point to the fact that it routinely pops up as the #1 culprit in fatal attacks and severe maulings. GOT THAT – #1 IN FATAL ATTACKS AND MAULINGS! Though a pit bull can range in size from 30lb to over 100lb, it is an unusually strong dog for its size, and even the smallest ones present a danger to people. Pit bulls are terrier mixes, a group of breeds known for high energy, nervousness, and propensity to bite. GOT THAT – PROPENSITY TO BITE! In the past pits have been bred for dog fighting and are still prone to aggressiveness towards other animals. GOT THAT – PRONE TO AGGRESSIVENESS TOWARDS OTHER ANIMALS (OTHER PETS)! In the middle of a dog fight dogs often turn and attack people. Lastly, pit bulls have something their owners love to call tenacity, and most people would describe as biting and not letting go; although the rumor that pit bulls have locking jaws is an urban legend, it is easy to see how it originated. BSL supporters claim that all these factors add up to a dog that is as dangerous to keep at home as a pet hyena, and demand it be banned in the interest of public safety.
I would be in favor of laws that impose stricter penalties on the criminals, the pit bull owners whose dogs attack citizens. As is the case with many crimes, I support the imposition of a much harsher penalty if a dangerous weapon, be it if a gun or a large dog is used. THEY SHOULD GO TO PRISON (FOR 5-10 YEARS WITH NO PAROLE) IF/WHEN THEIR PIT BULL ATTACKS PEOPLE/PETS!
Q: What is the history of the pit bull?
The blood sport of “bull baiting” began over 1,000 years ago in England (various sources dispute this date). What is undisputed is that by 1500, bull baiting had progressed to Britain’s national pastime. Bulldogs were reportedly first mentioned by name in 1631, referring to their function rather than a distinct dog breed. By 1800, and through further selective breeding, the bulldog developed into a compact muscular dog characterized by tremendous jaw strength.
Due to public outrage, bull baiting was banned in England in 1835. Bulldog breeders and owners then moved to the sport of “ratting,” where a number of rats were placed into a pit and wagers were made on how many rats the dog could kill in a certain time period. To increase agility, quickness and prey-drive in the bulldog, ratters crossed the breed with terriers. Essentially, it was the sport of ratting that combined the bulldog and terrier into the modern day pit bull terrier.
On the heels of ratting, dog fighting developed. Pit bulls and dog fighting were exported to America as settlers made their way to the New World. In 1884, the American Kennel Club was formed but rejected pit bulls due to their use in dog fighting. In response, Chauncey Z. Bennett formed the United Kennel Club in 1898 to bring formal recognition to the pit bull breed. At that time, Bennett also drew up rules and regulations for dog fighting to bring “organization” to the blood sport. ORGANIZATION/RULES FOR DOG FIGHTING???
Q: Why do people say that pit bulls “don’t let go?”
Through selective breeding, pit bulls have developed enormous jaw strength, as well as a ruinous “hold and shake” bite style, designed to inflict the maximum damage possible on their victims.GOT IT – TO INFLICT THE MAXIMUM DAMAGE POSSIBLE!! This bite trait delivered winning results in the fighting pit. When the Colorado Supreme Court upheld the Denver pit bull ban in 2005, the high court set aside characteristics that pit bulls displayed when they attack that differ from all other dog breeds. One of these characteristics was their lethal bite:
LETHAL IS THE CORRECT DESCRIPTION, ISN’T IT?!?
“[pit bulls] inflict more serious wounds than other breeds. They tend to attack the deep muscles, to hold on, to shake, and to cause ripping of tissues. Pit bull attacks were compared to shark attacks.” SHARK ATTACKS!!
Leading pit bull education websites, such as Pit Bull Rescue Central, encourage pit bull owners to be responsible and to always carry a “break stick” (BREAK STICK!!)– a tool used to pry open a pit bull’s jaws (WOULD YOU PUT YOUR HANDS THAT CLOSE TO THEIR CLAMPED JAWS? ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY ARE KNOWN TO REFOCUS THEIR RAGE ON OTHERS IF THEY ARE PUMPED UP AND FIGHTING!– in case their dog “accidentally” gets into a fight. These same websites also warn that using a break stick on any other dog breed may cause serious injury to the person.
This is true because no other dog breed possesses the pit bull’s tenacity combined with a “hold and shake” bite style.
THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING:
One of the most powerful examples of a pit bull “not letting go” occurred in an Ohio courtroom. During the Toledo v. Tellings trial (Tellings was convicted of violating the City of Toledo’s pit bull ordinance), Lucas County Dog Warden Tom Skeldon showed a videotape of a tranquilized pit bull hanging from a steel cable. The dog is essentially unconscious and still does not release its grip.
GOT IT – STILL DOES NOT RELEASE ITS GRIP!!!
Q: Do pit bulls bite more than other dogs?
Depending upon the community in which you live and the ratio of pit bulls within it, yes and no. But whether a pit bull bites more or less than another dog breed is not the point. The issue is the acute damage a pit bull inflicts when it does choose to bite. The pit bull’s “hold and shake” bite style causes severe bone and muscle damage, often inflicting permanent and disfiguring injury. Moreover, once a pit bull starts an attack, firearm intervention may be the only way to stop it. DID YOU GET THAT – FIRE ARM INTERVENTION MAY BE THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT!
When analyzing dog bite statistics, it is important to understand what constitutes a bite. A single bite — recorded and used in dog bite statistics — is a bite that “breaks the skin.” One bite by a poodle that leaves two puncture wounds is recorded the same way as a pit bull mauling, which can constitute hundreds of puncture wounds and extensive soft tissue loss. Despite the “quagmire” of dog bite statistics, pit bulls are leading bite counts across U.S. cities and counties. GOT THAT – LEADING BITE COUNTS!!
Q: How come pit bull owners say, “My dog might lick you to death.”
To understand the experience of owning a negatively perceived dog, Tufts Center for Animals and Public Policy did a study on pit bull owners. Researchers found that owners of out-law dog breeds directly feel the stigma targeted at their breed and resort to various tactics to lessen it. CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS = One of the tactics included attempts to counterbalance the pit bull’s menacing appearance and physical power with overwhelming “affectionate” behavior, such as: “My dog might lick you to death.”
Q: Why does my friend say, “Pit bulls are dog-aggressive not human-aggressive?” THAT DOESN’T MAKE ME LIKE THEM – I HATE THEM BECAUSE THEY EAT OTHER ANIMALS!
Due to selective breeding for the purposes of dog fighting, pit bulls are highly dog-aggressive. This aggression is not limited to dogs; pit bulls frequently kill other companion pets and domesticated animals. THEY KILL OTHER PEOPLE’S PETS!!!! Leading pit bull education websites warn pit bull owners to, “Never trust your pit bull not to fight.” These same websites also state that pit bulls should never be left alone with another dog or animal. The practical question is: Why is “pit bull dog aggression” tolerated at all? AMEN TO THAT!!
Pit bull dog aggression is unacceptable for two reasons. In many instances it leads to human aggression. A common scenario is the following: A loose pit bull attacks a leashed dog being walked by its owner. The owner gets seriously injured trying to stop the attack. LOOK WHAT THESE ROTTEN DOGS DID = In 2009, two human beings suffered death due to pit bull dog aggression: Rosie Humphreys, who had been walking her two poodles, and Carter Delaney, who had tried to protect a smaller dog in his home.
THIS MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH!!
Secondly, far too many beloved companion pets and domesticated animals suffer a violent death by the powerful jaws of pit bull terriers each year. In some instances, these attacks involve pit bulls charging through screen doors of private homes — in a home invasion attack — to kill the pet living inside. Owners of the pet are then forced to watch as their pet is disemboweled by the pit bull and pray that the dog does not turn its attention on an innocent family member next.
Q: What is the best thing we can do for communities and pit bulls?
The best thing we can do for communities and pit bulls is to regulate pit bull ownership and pit bull breeding. Lowering the pit bull population will reduce the number of serious maulings, as well as pit bull euthanizations. In the July/August 2009 issue of Animal People, the group estimated that of the 1,663,167 shelter dogs projected to be euthanized in 2009, pit bulls accounted for 58%. GOT IT – PIT BULLS ACCOUNTED FOR 58% YET THEY ARE ONLY 5% OF DOG POPULATION!! This is true despite the fact that pit bulls only make up 5% of the total U.S. dog population.
Over 650 U.S. cities and nearly all privatized military housing — the U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corps now have uniform pet policies — have adopted breed-specific laws to correct the pit bull problem. Such measures include: mandatory sterilization, liability insurance and strict containment rules. The most progressive legislation bans the future breeding of pit bulls (a pit bull ban). In just a few years, these communities see a significant drop in pit bull bites and euthanizations.
I am anxious to hear what kind of dog they would own if there were no such thing as a pit bull. Great question
I am not surprised at PROPGAL”s comments. She sounds like a typical pit owner – attack-oriented and ignorant (not aware of the facts). Is anyone surprised that two of her messages are blocked due to other readers’ negative responses? Her attacks on other commenters are juvenile.
Your messages are well researched and go straight to the heart of the problems with these dogs. Keep up the good work!
My neighborhood is buzzing about a man who put a sign in his front yard “pit bull puppies for sale” He has 3 (three) adult dogs and now 6 (SIX) puppies. One woman (especially paranoid about pit bulls) called the police to complain that he has too many dogs. People are limited to owning only 4 dogs here. I think she was being petty. The police gave him a “ticket” so he can have his day in court instead of just taking some of the dogs away from him now. I think this was fair treatment.
This man has a 6′ high wooden fence (tallest allowed) with “arms” on top of the poles that jut back into his yard. They are strung with heavy wire (not barbed wire which is illegal). He drove a 2′ aluminum shield into the ground all along the fence so the dogs can’t dig out. His fence plan is based on the restrictions that are current in other cities. He told me that he tried using an “electric fence” parallel to the 6′ fence but the dogs ignored the pain and tried to dig out.
Although these dogs have never fought each other, he moved the mom and her puppies into a bedroom in order to protect them.
When I asked him why he keeps the dogs he told me they belong to his son who is stationed in Afghanistan. When his son shipped out the dad offered to keep them until his son returns. He said that when his son gets back the dogs will return to his son’s 4 acre farm. The mother dog will be spayed as soon as possible.
I am glad the father is doing this for his son. The dogs only leave his yard (one at a time) to go to the vet. He puts a muzzle lead on the dog when it goes. He NEVER walks the dogs in the neighborhood because they grew up on the farm and are not socialized to any other neighborhood.
If they feel that they MUST have pit bulls, this is how responsible owners should control their dogs. I suggested that before he goes to court he should have the SPCA inspect his property. Their opinion will carry a lot of weight.
TIREDOFBEING”BULLIED” I’m glad you showed pit bull owners that you respect their right to own these dogs so long as they are responsible about their containment.
This dad was really stressed about the hardship of keeping these dogs. I was surprised that the dogs hadn’t fought among themselves. He has had these dogs at his house for about a year and has invested in a lot of “toys” for them. Heavy ropes with knots in the ends hang from his tree. He said it is not unusual for them to clamp on and hang from these ropes FOR HOURS ON END.
When I told him how I feel about these dogs he hung his head and said, “what’s a father to do?”
I’m wondering why none of the pit bull owners have answered the question: WHAT TYPE OF DOG WOULD YOU OWN IF PIT BULLS DIDN’T EXIST?
PropGal hasn’t made any comments since TIREDOFBEING”BULLIED” posted a lot of facts about pit bulls. She can’t think of anything to say that can’t be disputed by FACTS.
OK, Fault, you goaded me into it. I decided to step out of this debate when you wrongly accused me of attacking other commenters. If you read the thread, you would see that “Realist” attacked me several times and eventually I lashed back. I haven’t attacked anyone else.
You can find bad stories about a lot of different breeds. I agree that one of the jobs “Pit Bulls” were bred for was bull baiting so they are stronger and more tenacious than many other breeds. My point is that there are also many stories of “Pit Bulls” doing good things, but the media ignores those stories because they’re not sensational. If you look back through time, several breeds have been demonized; German Shepherds, Dobermans. Pits have also been used as therapy dogs, police dogs, search and rescue dogs and decades ago in England were nicknamed “Nanny Dogs” because the dogs often kept company with and protected the children. My own Pit mix loves my dauughter and her friends more than anything. I have several photos from her birthday parties over the years w/ my dog squeezed right in the middle of the group of kids while they fall all over her.
To answer your question about what other breed would I own. I have owned several dogs in my adult life. We had 3 Labs before I was given my Lab/Pit mix. I initially didn’t want her b/c she was part Pit and all I knew of the breed was the media circus reports. But after meeting her and seeing her interact w/ my daughter (5 at the time) I agreed to take her to keep her from going to a shelter. She turned out to be a wonderful, affectionate, docile dog. I have fostered several dogs and kept one of them who is a Shepherd mix. We’ve also since adopted another Lab from local rescue. So my current pack includes a Lab/Pit mix, a Shepherd mix and a yellow Lab-all rescues.
I am very passionate about rescuing dogs, rather than supporting those who add to the animal overpopulation. I hate to see innocent dogs put to sleep because of prejudice against their breed.
Hmmm…..3 “dislikes” but no comments. I’m curious what is so offensive about my post. Seems once y’all decide you don’t like someone, they can do nothing good. Can’t say I’m surprised.
Prop — this is not an arguement you can win. I have no doubt that you have seen evidence of wonderful traits in your Pitt mix. I kept a Pit for 8 months while a friend was deployed to the Middle East and my attitude changed with Buster who was kind and gentle and actually took on the characteristics of my lap dog :) But the reality is that due to the characteristics of the breed, if he were to have latched onto someone with his powerful jaws, he would have done really harmful and possible deadly damage. I loved that dog – but dogs can have a bad day / be surprised and lash out / become scared and get protective. The laws created in LA are similar to gun laws. Guns don’t kill – stupid people with guns kill. Pitt bulls have powerful jaws and when focused will hold on even when facing death – that is the bottom line. It is sad that rather than try to figure out if any of the dogs that were seized can go to a responsible home, the dogs will just die.
Hmmm….I agree with you. I do realize that Pits are very strong and many will hang on if they do bite, because they were bred to do just that. It’s been my experience that Pits do not bite more often than other breeds, but as you noticed, this is an argument I cannot win. I speak up because I too don’t want to see dogs euthanized because of irresponsible people. I’m glad you got the chance to get to know a Pittie and what good dogs they can be.
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PropGal: No more comments need to be made. The facts have been posted and you can count your blessings that your “pack” have not hurt your family and others.
I didn’t realize that Michael Vick lived in NOLA. Who else would have 17 Pit Bulls under one roof?
This story is from Washington, LA…..not NOLA (New Orleans)….lately folks are very anxious to jump on
the bandwagon for bashing New Orleans !
“Reality”…..buy a map and do your research before you
chime in with your smart@$$ remarks !
MEE OWW, Straight – got it. So instead of NOLA, it’s LALA.
I actually like NOLA – beignets and all!
I think it says 17 pit bulls, NOT “under 1 roof”.
how long has the ordinance been in effect? why give them another 5 days. the end result will be the same 5 days later. none of the owners have the money to buy the insurance and who is going to sell it in the first place?
xinsurance on-line sells animal liability
He gave them 7 (seven) weeks to comply and not ONE complied, not ONE called to discuss. Only then were the dogs picked up and the “new” 5 day period was put into effect. These are all “low-lifes” who should not have any pets, probably.
GOOD LAW!!!!!!!!
The owners may be “low-lifes” who should not own pets, but it is not the guilty owners who are to be euthenized… it is the innocent dogs. It is always the dogs and the innocent who pay for the sins of others. I feel for the poor dogs who have not done anything wrong.
I agree with Responsible Dog Owner. Hate the deed! Not the breed!
Instead they should require a weapons licence for dogs of this breed claibur that requires an annual license fee, plus continuing education requirements. Without having this, the dog is impounded, fines, or jail time imposed. Poodles & the majority of less dangerous breeds excluded.
Otherwise it’s like asking someone to voluntarily buy health insurance. Oh wait, oh no, dang it, some liberal’s might get an idea to include this liability in the proposed Obamacare (or is it already on one of those pages in the 10,000 page document?)…hmmmm
Breed specification legislation is completely groudless. Targeting any specific breed, the canine villian du jour happens to be “Pit Bulls”, is senseless. Most people, including animal control officers, cannot distinguish the physical charachteristics of a “Pit Bull” from other breeds anyway. Besides, other than the American Pit Bull Terrier, there is no such breed as a “Pit Bull” but rather that is a collection of several breeds that have been grouped under an umbrella. How about holding people responsible for their dogs’ actions, regardless of the breed, and stop with the widespread discrimination against certain animals. (In people, we call it racism!)
PropGal your tired old argument shows you have a small brain and live in a dream world and are prob dangerous yourself.
“Realist”, your comment shows that you have no experience in the matter and are incapable of engaging in intelligent debate with others. Adult discussions consist of much more than personal attacks and insults.
You bet, P-gal. My experience would suprise you. Stay in your dream world like so many do. Make yourself happy!
The only thing that surprises me is that you put your bong down long enough to type.
first of all, what gives them the right to euthanize these animals? there are many rescue agencies that would gladly take them off the officers hands! secondly, how many other breeds are considered dangerous? or is it just this one breed?! as you know, there are a variety of pit bulls – so are we classing them all together?
first of all, pit bulls can be trained to not be aggressive. the idea we just put them down makes me think of another situation…
how many folks have been sitting on death row?! how many years? so do we give these guys 5 days? NO and besides, the pit bulls did not commit a CRIME! someone needs to take this one to court… i can see the owners being fined for not having proper containment and registering the dog, but then if you have register this breed then you should be registering all breeds!
I don’t agree that the dogs should be euthanized, but I do agree that some action is necessary. The “pit bull” is unique in that it is the one breed that is as likely to attack an adult as it is likely to attack a child. Attacks on children are usually brought about because the child doesn’t recognize the warning signs of a dog on the defense, and will unknowingly provoke the animal to attack. Pit bulls attack adults and children with equal frequency, and as an underwriter, that’s what makes me squirm. While professionally I am “breed neutral” I will always be more suspicious and cautious when it comes to pit bulls. I look at the “care and control” of the dog to determine if the risk is worth taking; but every day I come across homes with pit bulls tied on a rope in an unfenced yard or with a fence that is ready to fall at any moment. (Luckily, I have an Animal Liability exclusion to work with in my back pocket.) If a person cannot take proper care and control of their animal, they are a liability to everyone around them. Fine them up the wazoo and make it too expensive for them to keep the animal.
On the front page of today’s Times-Picayune is an atypical article about a pit bull attack. As an 8-year-old girl walked down the street she was attacked by a pit bull that was being walked on a leash. When the girl saw the pit bull break free and charge her she froze and had the presence of mind to protect her head and throat. She was bitten 100 times. NEIGHBORS HAD TO LITERALLY BEAT THE DOG TO DEATH BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT LET GO OF HER MUTILATED ARM!
I live in an upper-middle class subdivision with 168 houses. There are 22 houses with pit bulls (the police told me). Pit bulls have either jumped over or dug under people’s fences in order to kill (read EAT) 6 cats and 2 dogs.
I am a 73-year-old woman who likes to walk her small dog. I carry my cell phone, a police whistle, a taser and an over/under .38 derringer loaded with dum-dums. I have tased 2 pit bulls (with collars) that charged me/my dog. They both died of heart failure. Another good weapon is a can of wasp spray. Its legal, if you’re lucky it will blind your assailant (man or beast), it shoots 15′ and it costs only $3.59 at Home Depot. I have it on the seat beside me in my car, too.
Homeowners insurance does not cover the liability on these dogs. If you are harmed by one of these beasts, you should sue the s – – t out of them and take their house. Unfortunately, many of the owners are renters. These two reasons are the foundation of this law.
Britain has made pit bulls illegal. Several other European countries will soon outlaw them, too. What does that tell you?
Tired…I just know I wouldn’t want to mess with you! You are certainly prepared!
The problem is the people, not the dogs. I own a Pit Bull mix. Several of my friends own Pit Bulls or Pit mixes including my dad. None of our dogs are aggressive and none of us allow our dogs to roam the neighborhood. I volunteer at our local SPCA which is full of Pits and I’ve never had a problem with any of them. Punish the deed, not the breed…or most times, the idiot owners.
You keep believing in fairy’s, P-gal. The stark reality is Pit Bulls cause TRAGIC deaths and injuries EVERY day in America. because of people like YOU- peiople with small brains……….
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2 women arrested after pit bulls maul 8-year-old
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…HAMMOND – An 8-year-old girl from Hammond is in fair condition after two pit bulls mauled her face, arms and legs. Natasha Oliver tells The Daily Star that her daughter, Mi’Kayja Oliver, underwent nearly eight hours of surgery at North Oaks Hospital. She says the worst injury was a torn artery…
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Pit bull attacks child
Posted Apr. 25, 2012
BATON ROUGE – Video surveillance captured, what the eight-year-old victim’s parents called pit bulls, jumping, scratching, biting and gang tackling a little girl. The victim’s parents did not want their identities released but said it happened Easter Sunday evening in a South Baton Rouge neighborhood. The girl suffered one deep laceration just above her left ankle that required internal and external stitches…
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Pit bull attacks child
BATON ROUGE – Video surveillance captured, what the eight-year-old victim\’s parents called pit bulls, jumping, scratching, biting and gang tackling a little girl….
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Pit bull owner cited after attack
Posted Apr. 2, 2012
WATSON- A young girl is recovering after a pit bull bit her over the weekend. Livingston Parish Deputies said the dog was chained up and behind a fence when the attack happened. “The child was in the vicinity of the dog, which was restrained, it was inside a fenced in area, not real sure what happened but the end result, the child had a pretty serious injury,” said Perry Rushing with the Livingston Parish Sheriff’s Office…
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Pit bull owner cited after attack
WATSON- A young girl is recovering after a pit bull bit her over the weekend. Livingston Parish Deputies said the dog was chained up and behind a fence when the attack happened….
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Woman cited after pit bull kills neighbor’s dog
Posted Feb. 10, 2012
HOUMA – Terrebonne Parish deputies say they ticketed a Houma woman after her pit bull dog leaped out of her car and killed a neighbor’s small poodle. Deputies said the attack happened Tuesday evening. According to The Courier the woman told police that the pit bull jumped out of her car…
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Again, “Realist”, you are incapable of intelligent debate without resorting to childish personal attacks and insults. You are a closed-minded, uneducated individual who clearly woon’t consider any point of view of conflicts with your own. Like so many others, you rely only on what you read, rather than experience, to dictate your opinion. You are part of the problem and why good dogs are put down everyday. I don’t know what’s occurred in your life to make you so spiteful and blind, but I pity you.
I, in turn, pity the children attacked by these vicious animals. Further, I am scared of people like you have a disregard for the FACTS.
And I fear the likes of you, who jump on the media sideshow bandwagon and rely on it as factual. But I do have to cut you some slack, I believed in the media BS until I was given my Pittie 5 years ago; that little thing called “experience” which you so clearly lack.
DON’T TELL ME PIT BULLS GET A “BAD RAP”.
IF DARA LAPORA WERE ALIVE TODAY I DON’T THINK SHE WOULD BE SAYING ITS THE OWNER – NOT THE BREED
In the August 11 attack in California, Dara Lapora, an activist with BAD RAP (Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls), was killed by her own two-year-old male pit bull, which she raised from a puppy.
Pennsylvania Woman Carmen Ramos Killed By Her 5 Pit Bulls
A pack of five of her own pet pit bulls killed 50-year-old Carmen Ramos in her home on Tuesday, August 30, 2011, in Hunting Park, a neighborhood in North Philadelphia, PA.
In a morbid similarity to the recent death of Dara Lapora in Pacifica, Calif., Carmen Ramos’ bloody body was found in the living room by her husband when he came home from work.
Jose Alvarez, 55, said he came in to discover his wife being attacked by their five pit bulls in their home on W. Carey Street around 6:30 p.m., according to police.
When officers arrived, the bloody living room was in disarray and it appeared the woman had struggled and tried to protect herself from the brutal attack. They got the dogs upstairs, but it was too late to save the victim.
Carmen Ramos was declared dead at 6:45 p.m.
According to NBC News, neighbors said the dogs are vicious and had been terrorizing the neighborhood. “The dogs often got loose and they just ran around, everyone needs to run into their homes,” neighbor Carmen Gonzolez told NBC Philadelphia.
Neighbors also reported that the dogs had bitten a man last week and were taken away by animal control on Friday, August 26. They were returned to the home earlier this week and removed again on Tuesday–after Carmen Ramos death.
TIREDOFBEING”BULLIED” HAS DOCUMENTED WHAT ALL OF US KNOW. THESE MONSTERS ARE NOT FIT TO LIVE AROUND PEOPLE. EVEN THEIR OWNERS HAVE BEEN MUTILATED/KILLED BY THEM. OTHER DOGS MAY BITE, BUT PIT BULLS WON’T LET GO OF THEIR VICTIM.
Its our own fault that we are plagued with these monsters. All domestic dogs came from one common ancestor. Humans have bred different types of dogs for different purposes. What were pit bulls bred to do?
American Pit Bull Terrier
Main article: American Pit Bull Terrier
The American Pit Bull Terrier is the product of interbreeding between pit terriers and american bulldogs to produce a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the bulldog. These dogs were initially bred in England (THEY ARE NOW ILLEGAL IN ENGLAND)and arrived in the United States with the founders. In the United States, these dogs were used as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt and to drive livestock. Some have been selectively bred for their fighting prowess.
Terriers in general have a higher tendency towards dog aggression and American Pit Bull Terriers constitute the majority of dogs with this trait. In addition, law enforcement organizations report these dogs are used for other nefarious purposes, such as guarding illegal narcotics operations, use against the police and as attack dogs.
The fighting reputation of pit bull-type dogs led the San Francisco Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in 1996 to relabel pit bull terriers as “St. Francis Terriers” (not associated with the “terrier” mascot of St. Francis College in New York) so that they might be more readily adopted; 60 temperament-screened dogs were adopted until the program was halted after several of the newly adopted dogs killed cats. The New York City Center for Animal Care and Control tried a similar approach in 2004 by relabeling their pit bull terriers as “New Yorkies”, but dropped the idea in the face of overwhelming public opposition.
Pit bulls should be banned in cities because, if for no other reason, they have killed other people’s pets. My pets are my “children.” If a pit bull killed one of them I would go berserk and shoot the pit bull then sue the owners for everything they have and ever hope to have.
I ASK ALL PIT BULL OWNERS: IF PIT BULLS DIDN’T EXIST, WHAT KIND OF DOG WOULD YOU OWN?
NOW THAT WE HAVE THE INTERNET PIT OWNERS CAN’T “BULLY” US WITH “ITS THE OWNER, NOT THE BREED.” HUMANS BRED THESE DOGS TO BE LIKE THIS AND NOW THEY WISH THEY HADN’T.
READ ON….MY COMMENTS ARE IN CAPS
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The Constitution Club ^ | 05-24-11 | Zazu
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:18:31 PM by TheConservativeCitizen
In recent years a growing list of nations and American municipalities have banned the sale, breeding, and ownership of pit bulls. Pit bull’s are a hard to define mix of American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, and other breeds, that is nevertheless instantly identifiable by the dogs appearance. Denmark and the United Kingdom ban the ownership of pit bulls, in Germany, the ownership of a pit bull is punishable by a two year prison term. GOT THAT – 2 YEAR PRISON TERM! Several US cities also ban the breed including major ones like Denver and New York. Dozens of federal and state lawsuits challenging the Constitutionality of Breed Specific Legislation (BSL) have thus far been unsuccessful at stopping the pit bull bans.
Supporters of pit bull bans claim the breed is simply too dangerous to keep. They point to the fact that it routinely pops up as the #1 culprit in fatal attacks and severe maulings. GOT THAT – #1 IN FATAL ATTACKS AND MAULINGS! Though a pit bull can range in size from 30lb to over 100lb, it is an unusually strong dog for its size, and even the smallest ones present a danger to people. Pit bulls are terrier mixes, a group of breeds known for high energy, nervousness, and propensity to bite. GOT THAT – PROPENSITY TO BITE! In the past pits have been bred for dog fighting and are still prone to aggressiveness towards other animals. GOT THAT – PRONE TO AGGRESSIVENESS TOWARDS OTHER ANIMALS (OTHER PETS)! In the middle of a dog fight dogs often turn and attack people. Lastly, pit bulls have something their owners love to call tenacity, and most people would describe as biting and not letting go; although the rumor that pit bulls have locking jaws is an urban legend, it is easy to see how it originated. BSL supporters claim that all these factors add up to a dog that is as dangerous to keep at home as a pet hyena, and demand it be banned in the interest of public safety.
I would be in favor of laws that impose stricter penalties on the criminals, the pit bull owners whose dogs attack citizens. As is the case with many crimes, I support the imposition of a much harsher penalty if a dangerous weapon, be it if a gun or a large dog is used. THEY SHOULD GO TO PRISON (FOR 5-10 YEARS WITH NO PAROLE) IF/WHEN THEIR PIT BULL ATTACKS PEOPLE/PETS!
Q: What is the history of the pit bull?
The blood sport of “bull baiting” began over 1,000 years ago in England (various sources dispute this date). What is undisputed is that by 1500, bull baiting had progressed to Britain’s national pastime. Bulldogs were reportedly first mentioned by name in 1631, referring to their function rather than a distinct dog breed. By 1800, and through further selective breeding, the bulldog developed into a compact muscular dog characterized by tremendous jaw strength.
Due to public outrage, bull baiting was banned in England in 1835. Bulldog breeders and owners then moved to the sport of “ratting,” where a number of rats were placed into a pit and wagers were made on how many rats the dog could kill in a certain time period. To increase agility, quickness and prey-drive in the bulldog, ratters crossed the breed with terriers. Essentially, it was the sport of ratting that combined the bulldog and terrier into the modern day pit bull terrier.
On the heels of ratting, dog fighting developed. Pit bulls and dog fighting were exported to America as settlers made their way to the New World. In 1884, the American Kennel Club was formed but rejected pit bulls due to their use in dog fighting. In response, Chauncey Z. Bennett formed the United Kennel Club in 1898 to bring formal recognition to the pit bull breed. At that time, Bennett also drew up rules and regulations for dog fighting to bring “organization” to the blood sport. ORGANIZATION/RULES FOR DOG FIGHTING???
Q: Why do people say that pit bulls “don’t let go?”
Through selective breeding, pit bulls have developed enormous jaw strength, as well as a ruinous “hold and shake” bite style, designed to inflict the maximum damage possible on their victims.GOT IT – TO INFLICT THE MAXIMUM DAMAGE POSSIBLE!! This bite trait delivered winning results in the fighting pit. When the Colorado Supreme Court upheld the Denver pit bull ban in 2005, the high court set aside characteristics that pit bulls displayed when they attack that differ from all other dog breeds. One of these characteristics was their lethal bite:
LETHAL IS THE CORRECT DESCRIPTION, ISN’T IT?!?
“[pit bulls] inflict more serious wounds than other breeds. They tend to attack the deep muscles, to hold on, to shake, and to cause ripping of tissues. Pit bull attacks were compared to shark attacks.” SHARK ATTACKS!!
Leading pit bull education websites, such as Pit Bull Rescue Central, encourage pit bull owners to be responsible and to always carry a “break stick” (BREAK STICK!!)– a tool used to pry open a pit bull’s jaws (WOULD YOU PUT YOUR HANDS THAT CLOSE TO THEIR CLAMPED JAWS? ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY ARE KNOWN TO REFOCUS THEIR RAGE ON OTHERS IF THEY ARE PUMPED UP AND FIGHTING!– in case their dog “accidentally” gets into a fight. These same websites also warn that using a break stick on any other dog breed may cause serious injury to the person.
This is true because no other dog breed possesses the pit bull’s tenacity combined with a “hold and shake” bite style.
THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING:
One of the most powerful examples of a pit bull “not letting go” occurred in an Ohio courtroom. During the Toledo v. Tellings trial (Tellings was convicted of violating the City of Toledo’s pit bull ordinance), Lucas County Dog Warden Tom Skeldon showed a videotape of a tranquilized pit bull hanging from a steel cable. The dog is essentially unconscious and still does not release its grip.
GOT IT – STILL DOES NOT RELEASE ITS GRIP!!!
Q: Do pit bulls bite more than other dogs?
Depending upon the community in which you live and the ratio of pit bulls within it, yes and no. But whether a pit bull bites more or less than another dog breed is not the point. The issue is the acute damage a pit bull inflicts when it does choose to bite. The pit bull’s “hold and shake” bite style causes severe bone and muscle damage, often inflicting permanent and disfiguring injury. Moreover, once a pit bull starts an attack, firearm intervention may be the only way to stop it. DID YOU GET THAT – FIRE ARM INTERVENTION MAY BE THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT!
When analyzing dog bite statistics, it is important to understand what constitutes a bite. A single bite — recorded and used in dog bite statistics — is a bite that “breaks the skin.” One bite by a poodle that leaves two puncture wounds is recorded the same way as a pit bull mauling, which can constitute hundreds of puncture wounds and extensive soft tissue loss. Despite the “quagmire” of dog bite statistics, pit bulls are leading bite counts across U.S. cities and counties. GOT THAT – LEADING BITE COUNTS!!
Q: How come pit bull owners say, “My dog might lick you to death.”
To understand the experience of owning a negatively perceived dog, Tufts Center for Animals and Public Policy did a study on pit bull owners. Researchers found that owners of out-law dog breeds directly feel the stigma targeted at their breed and resort to various tactics to lessen it. CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS = One of the tactics included attempts to counterbalance the pit bull’s menacing appearance and physical power with overwhelming “affectionate” behavior, such as: “My dog might lick you to death.”
Q: Why does my friend say, “Pit bulls are dog-aggressive not human-aggressive?” THAT DOESN’T MAKE ME LIKE THEM – I HATE THEM BECAUSE THEY EAT OTHER ANIMALS!
Due to selective breeding for the purposes of dog fighting, pit bulls are highly dog-aggressive. This aggression is not limited to dogs; pit bulls frequently kill other companion pets and domesticated animals. THEY KILL OTHER PEOPLE’S PETS!!!! Leading pit bull education websites warn pit bull owners to, “Never trust your pit bull not to fight.” These same websites also state that pit bulls should never be left alone with another dog or animal. The practical question is: Why is “pit bull dog aggression” tolerated at all? AMEN TO THAT!!
Pit bull dog aggression is unacceptable for two reasons. In many instances it leads to human aggression. A common scenario is the following: A loose pit bull attacks a leashed dog being walked by its owner. The owner gets seriously injured trying to stop the attack. LOOK WHAT THESE ROTTEN DOGS DID = In 2009, two human beings suffered death due to pit bull dog aggression: Rosie Humphreys, who had been walking her two poodles, and Carter Delaney, who had tried to protect a smaller dog in his home.
THIS MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH!!
Secondly, far too many beloved companion pets and domesticated animals suffer a violent death by the powerful jaws of pit bull terriers each year. In some instances, these attacks involve pit bulls charging through screen doors of private homes — in a home invasion attack — to kill the pet living inside. Owners of the pet are then forced to watch as their pet is disemboweled by the pit bull and pray that the dog does not turn its attention on an innocent family member next.
Q: What is the best thing we can do for communities and pit bulls?
The best thing we can do for communities and pit bulls is to regulate pit bull ownership and pit bull breeding. Lowering the pit bull population will reduce the number of serious maulings, as well as pit bull euthanizations. In the July/August 2009 issue of Animal People, the group estimated that of the 1,663,167 shelter dogs projected to be euthanized in 2009, pit bulls accounted for 58%. GOT IT – PIT BULLS ACCOUNTED FOR 58% YET THEY ARE ONLY 5% OF DOG POPULATION!! This is true despite the fact that pit bulls only make up 5% of the total U.S. dog population.
Over 650 U.S. cities and nearly all privatized military housing — the U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corps now have uniform pet policies — have adopted breed-specific laws to correct the pit bull problem. Such measures include: mandatory sterilization, liability insurance and strict containment rules. The most progressive legislation bans the future breeding of pit bulls (a pit bull ban). In just a few years, these communities see a significant drop in pit bull bites and euthanizations.
TIREDOFBEING”BULLIED” You are my hero!!
I am anxious to hear what kind of dog they would own if there were no such thing as a pit bull. Great question
I am not surprised at PROPGAL”s comments. She sounds like a typical pit owner – attack-oriented and ignorant (not aware of the facts). Is anyone surprised that two of her messages are blocked due to other readers’ negative responses? Her attacks on other commenters are juvenile.
Your messages are well researched and go straight to the heart of the problems with these dogs. Keep up the good work!
My neighborhood is buzzing about a man who put a sign in his front yard “pit bull puppies for sale” He has 3 (three) adult dogs and now 6 (SIX) puppies. One woman (especially paranoid about pit bulls) called the police to complain that he has too many dogs. People are limited to owning only 4 dogs here. I think she was being petty. The police gave him a “ticket” so he can have his day in court instead of just taking some of the dogs away from him now. I think this was fair treatment.
This man has a 6′ high wooden fence (tallest allowed) with “arms” on top of the poles that jut back into his yard. They are strung with heavy wire (not barbed wire which is illegal). He drove a 2′ aluminum shield into the ground all along the fence so the dogs can’t dig out. His fence plan is based on the restrictions that are current in other cities. He told me that he tried using an “electric fence” parallel to the 6′ fence but the dogs ignored the pain and tried to dig out.
Although these dogs have never fought each other, he moved the mom and her puppies into a bedroom in order to protect them.
When I asked him why he keeps the dogs he told me they belong to his son who is stationed in Afghanistan. When his son shipped out the dad offered to keep them until his son returns. He said that when his son gets back the dogs will return to his son’s 4 acre farm. The mother dog will be spayed as soon as possible.
I am glad the father is doing this for his son. The dogs only leave his yard (one at a time) to go to the vet. He puts a muzzle lead on the dog when it goes. He NEVER walks the dogs in the neighborhood because they grew up on the farm and are not socialized to any other neighborhood.
If they feel that they MUST have pit bulls, this is how responsible owners should control their dogs. I suggested that before he goes to court he should have the SPCA inspect his property. Their opinion will carry a lot of weight.
TIREDOFBEING”BULLIED” I’m glad you showed pit bull owners that you respect their right to own these dogs so long as they are responsible about their containment.
ITS OUR OWN FAULT
This dad was really stressed about the hardship of keeping these dogs. I was surprised that the dogs hadn’t fought among themselves. He has had these dogs at his house for about a year and has invested in a lot of “toys” for them. Heavy ropes with knots in the ends hang from his tree. He said it is not unusual for them to clamp on and hang from these ropes FOR HOURS ON END.
When I told him how I feel about these dogs he hung his head and said, “what’s a father to do?”
I’m wondering why none of the pit bull owners have answered the question: WHAT TYPE OF DOG WOULD YOU OWN IF PIT BULLS DIDN’T EXIST?
PropGal hasn’t made any comments since TIREDOFBEING”BULLIED” posted a lot of facts about pit bulls. She can’t think of anything to say that can’t be disputed by FACTS.
OK, Fault, you goaded me into it. I decided to step out of this debate when you wrongly accused me of attacking other commenters. If you read the thread, you would see that “Realist” attacked me several times and eventually I lashed back. I haven’t attacked anyone else.
You can find bad stories about a lot of different breeds. I agree that one of the jobs “Pit Bulls” were bred for was bull baiting so they are stronger and more tenacious than many other breeds. My point is that there are also many stories of “Pit Bulls” doing good things, but the media ignores those stories because they’re not sensational. If you look back through time, several breeds have been demonized; German Shepherds, Dobermans. Pits have also been used as therapy dogs, police dogs, search and rescue dogs and decades ago in England were nicknamed “Nanny Dogs” because the dogs often kept company with and protected the children. My own Pit mix loves my dauughter and her friends more than anything. I have several photos from her birthday parties over the years w/ my dog squeezed right in the middle of the group of kids while they fall all over her.
To answer your question about what other breed would I own. I have owned several dogs in my adult life. We had 3 Labs before I was given my Lab/Pit mix. I initially didn’t want her b/c she was part Pit and all I knew of the breed was the media circus reports. But after meeting her and seeing her interact w/ my daughter (5 at the time) I agreed to take her to keep her from going to a shelter. She turned out to be a wonderful, affectionate, docile dog. I have fostered several dogs and kept one of them who is a Shepherd mix. We’ve also since adopted another Lab from local rescue. So my current pack includes a Lab/Pit mix, a Shepherd mix and a yellow Lab-all rescues.
I am very passionate about rescuing dogs, rather than supporting those who add to the animal overpopulation. I hate to see innocent dogs put to sleep because of prejudice against their breed.
Hmmm…..3 “dislikes” but no comments. I’m curious what is so offensive about my post. Seems once y’all decide you don’t like someone, they can do nothing good. Can’t say I’m surprised.
Prop — this is not an arguement you can win. I have no doubt that you have seen evidence of wonderful traits in your Pitt mix. I kept a Pit for 8 months while a friend was deployed to the Middle East and my attitude changed with Buster who was kind and gentle and actually took on the characteristics of my lap dog :) But the reality is that due to the characteristics of the breed, if he were to have latched onto someone with his powerful jaws, he would have done really harmful and possible deadly damage. I loved that dog – but dogs can have a bad day / be surprised and lash out / become scared and get protective. The laws created in LA are similar to gun laws. Guns don’t kill – stupid people with guns kill. Pitt bulls have powerful jaws and when focused will hold on even when facing death – that is the bottom line. It is sad that rather than try to figure out if any of the dogs that were seized can go to a responsible home, the dogs will just die.
Hmmm….I agree with you. I do realize that Pits are very strong and many will hang on if they do bite, because they were bred to do just that. It’s been my experience that Pits do not bite more often than other breeds, but as you noticed, this is an argument I cannot win. I speak up because I too don’t want to see dogs euthanized because of irresponsible people. I’m glad you got the chance to get to know a Pittie and what good dogs they can be.
PropGal: No more comments need to be made. The facts have been posted and you can count your blessings that your “pack” have not hurt your family and others.