Lawsuits Could Follow Zimmerman Acquittal

By Tom Schoenberg | July 15, 2013

  • July 15, 2013 at 1:36 pm
    Realist says:
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    April of last year:

    To be exact, the shameful truth is that 93% of African-American murders are committed by other African-Americans. That is breathtakingly awful when you consider how incensed the African-American community is about the Trayvon tragedy, no matter what you believe about Zimmerman’s guilt.

    Let’s do the gruesome math, not out of morbidity, but because it manifests the incredible self-centered insanity of people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

    8,000-9,000 African-Americans are murdered each year.

    93% of them by other African-Americans.

    That’s 7,905 (from average)

    That’s 21.65 murdered each day by other African-Americans.

    And these racebaiting culture-hustling microphone-pimps only get riled up when a “White Hispanic” kills an African-American? It’s absolutely shameful.

    To update, in the 513 days between Trayvon dying, and today’s verdict, 11,106 African Americans have been murdered by other African-Americans.

    Please double check my numbers.

    • July 15, 2013 at 2:22 pm
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      Right on the mark. Well stated. Im not checking your numbers. It’s been stipulated many times that such murders are black on black.

  • July 15, 2013 at 1:58 pm
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    Well, if OJ can be acquitted and then lose in a civil court, maybe there is a precedent for a successful lawsuit.

    If the glove don’t fit, you must acquit. But if you think it do, then you sue.

    • July 15, 2013 at 2:23 pm
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      There are no precedents in civil court.

      • July 15, 2013 at 4:00 pm
        Al E. Gator says:
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        No precedents? What they got, dictators? Kings and Queens?

        • July 16, 2013 at 11:22 am
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          From a guy named Al E. Gator, this might be the funniest thing I’ve read on Insurance Journal.

  • July 15, 2013 at 4:07 pm
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    Civil litigation of a wrongful death lawsuit will create interesting legal theatre under Florida comparative negligence law. Plaintiff’s complaint should include negligence on the part of Zimmerman by improperly profiling Martin, especially in the context that he always referred to the victim as the “suspect”. In a civil action, Zimmerman would be compelled to testify. It would be entertaining to see if he invokes the 5th Amendment on any cross examination questions that might be self incriminating. It appears there was claim handling wisdom on the part of the homeowners association insurer to settle their exposure within policy limits.

    • July 15, 2013 at 5:10 pm
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      “Entertaining” huh Boonedog? Maybe from your warped prospective. Instead of Zimmerman testifying, his recorded phone call was played over and over again. Some hateful and dishonest people even re-recorded it to put Zimmerman in the worst possible (and untrue) light. Funny, the race baiters never complained about OJ Simpson not taking the stand.

    • July 17, 2013 at 3:14 pm
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      Well Boonedoggle, if you pound my face into the cement, I will shoot you regardless of color.

      • July 17, 2013 at 4:57 pm
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        And, let’s “face” it, FFA – if your head was pounded into cement, you would suffer far more severe injuries than did Zimmerman. But, whatever, the criminal law system fails over and over again every single day.

        • July 17, 2013 at 5:46 pm
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          Wasn’t this a jury trial? Was he not judged innocent by a jury of his peers????

        • July 17, 2013 at 5:49 pm
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          And yes I would. I am an old fart.
          But my wife tells me I have a Thick Skull, so……

          • July 18, 2013 at 10:38 am
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            Oh, Zimmerman was judged by his peers all right. Anyone would have more than a couple minor cuts and an injured nose (nose was NOT broken if you read the actual report). That, and if it was that much of an altercation, how come they didn’t find any of Zimmerman’s DNA on Mr. Martin’s person? Not anywhere! Zimmerman’s daddy was a judge down there, I think the fix was in. But, that’s just speculation. And, what’s done is done. Like I said, criminal law system fails every day. You know what doesn’t fail? If you want to kill someone, shoot them point blank range in the heart with a hollow-point bullet. Funny how the neighborhood watch guidelines Zimmerman was to follow state he is not to shake anyone down, he is to call the police and let them do their job. All of this could have been avoided if Zimmerman didn’t feel the need to go all Dirty Harry. I’ve said my peace.

          • July 18, 2013 at 2:23 pm
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            I am sure the attorneys asked them questions at trial. I would think. If not, then there was an issue with the prosecutor. If there was an issue with the jury, then the attorneys involved did a poor job of jury selection.

            Bottom line – A Jury of his peers that were privied to all them questions and answers made their decision. You – I were not there.

            Your speculation means nothing but a bunch of what if’s. Whats ifs are not facts. Fact – Martin beat his head on the cement. Fact – Zimmerman pulled his gun out and shot him.

            Carry your grudge. Its a free country. Long live the USA!

  • July 15, 2013 at 6:54 pm
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    Zimmerman should sue NBC for editing out of the 911 tape the part where he said Trayvon is black only after the 911 operator asked.

  • July 15, 2013 at 6:59 pm
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    It’s time to leave Zimmerman alone. Tried and acquitted. That should be the end of it.

    • July 18, 2013 at 6:05 pm
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      Not quite the same as innocent or exonerated, now is it….

  • July 16, 2013 at 5:44 pm
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    As I understand the Florida Stand your ground law, if this is self defense and it would appear to be from the crimnal verdict there may be a complete defense.

    Florida Statutes CHAPTER 776 JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE

    776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—

    (1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force,

  • July 18, 2013 at 3:03 pm
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    FFA – not a fact Zimmerman’s head was beat on the cement. It’s only a fact there are minor cuts on the back of his head.

    I can’t wait for Zimmerman’s book, If I Did It.

    • July 18, 2013 at 5:24 pm
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      CP, got my info from ABC 7 News & WGN Am News. Both reported same thing.
      We have different definitions of Minor. Pics I saw on both news, his face was beat. Of course, maybe he only got hit once. That would be enough for me. How many time you get your head pounded in the cement before you feel a need to pull a gun and defend your self?
      You wern’t there. I was not there. All I know is what I see on 10PM news and then the 4am news.

      And what the hell is Jessse Sr flapping his gums for??? He is just so loyal his wife and did such a great job of raising jr that he has an Illegitimate kid that was conceived while counseling Bill & Billary. Jr??? Another crooked Chicago politician. His Daughter in law? Another Crooked Chicago politician.
      And he is supposed to be some sort of Moral Compass? He cant keep it in his pants? His kids a crook. And we are supposed to listen to him? refers to NYC as Heimie Town?
      Can you say Double Standard??? He should just shut his mouth and let Sharpton flap his gums.

  • July 18, 2013 at 4:27 pm
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    Planet just because the trail didn’t go the way the left wanted it to, doesn’t mean justice failed. The Prosecution didn’t have a case from the get go and in fact this never would have been a media sensation if the Press hadn’t pursued it as a crime of “race”. It’s just a distraction to keep America busy not thinking about the economy and our national debt.

    • July 18, 2013 at 5:50 pm
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      Adult stalks and harrasses minor walking home.
      Adult told to back off by 9-11.
      Adult has car – could leave.
      Adult decides not to.
      Adult engages minor in conflict.
      Adult panics.
      Adult shoots minor.
      Bang, bang, you’re dead.

      Minor’s weapon: can of soda and bag of skittles.
      Stand your ground? Or just stupid coward with gun.

      It would be manslaughter in many states. At a minimum, these types of laws need to be in sync.

      • July 18, 2013 at 6:00 pm
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        You forgot where Minor pounds fat slobs head into cement.

        Bottom line – Senseless violence takes another life.
        BTW, this happens every day in Chicago several times. Where is the National Out Cry?

        And Sr Hypocrite just needs to keep his mouth shut. Go visit his crooked politician kid in jail or something.

        • July 18, 2013 at 6:03 pm
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          Pounded stalker and harrasser’s head into cement? With those baby scratches. Pleeze….

          • July 19, 2013 at 9:17 am
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            Has nothing to do with politics. It’s not a left vs. right issue in my mind. It’s a justice thing. And, if it is a stand your ground law, when a man with a gun addresses me, can’t I stand my ground too and “pound gunman’s head into the cement.” He didn’t get his head pounded into the cement. The injuries are not consistent, even the court found that fact.

          • July 19, 2013 at 10:16 am
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            I saw the pictures and there was a bump on the nose and a few scrapes with alot of blood. But that’s because head injuries bleed more than other parts of the body. If his head had gotten pounded into the cement I would expect he’d be unconscious or at the least have a broken nose.

            As you say, we weren’t there. But I have mixed feelings about the verdict. I think he should have gotten some punishment. What he did was vigilante. IF Martin as a burglar, the punishment for breaking and entering is not death.

          • July 19, 2013 at 10:56 am
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            I trust a Jury of my peers to make the right decision.
            The jury heard all the facts. We did not. We were not there.
            Stalker – Harrasser – from what I seen on the news – I would take that bet.
            Guilty of murder? Jury says no.
            Let his parents mourn the loss instead of putting it on national news and keeping it in their face daily. Hours of news talk dedicated to this. Sr & Sharpton & News Media showing no respect at all to his parents.
            My brother lost his son years ago. Tore me apart at the time. Still tearing him & Sis In Law apart.

          • July 19, 2013 at 2:45 pm
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            Yeah, well we trusted juries in the OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony trials, too. Do you think they got it right on those? Was manslaughter even an option for them?

          • July 19, 2013 at 3:24 pm
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            Libby – Don’t know. Ancient History.
            They saw fit to do what they did. I want there so cant comment….

  • July 19, 2013 at 12:36 pm
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    I also have mixed feelings about this case. I am inclined to agree that there was not a crime in the criminal-court sense. However, I also think that the decision to follow Mr Martin was terrible judgement, and maybe a “wrongful act” in the civil sense. I’m not sure how the stand your ground law would affect a civil case since my perception of the wrongful act was not the act of killing, but of following. But in truth, I don’t really understand the law well enough. I have no problem seeing a civil case that explores these issues. Like I said, I don’t think what Mr Zimmerman did was criminal, but I do think it was wrong.

    • July 19, 2013 at 12:52 pm
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      Well said.

  • July 19, 2013 at 12:52 pm
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    there were mistakes made by all parties involved including the attorneys involved. Plenty of blame to spread.

  • July 19, 2013 at 2:11 pm
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    I was wandering around the Washington Post earlier (way too much time on my hands-but I’m not big on researching). One of the commentors said Trayvon’s mother trademarked his name either before or during the trial. Anyone know what that was about? Well if it’s true, has anyone researched or heard about this?

    • July 19, 2013 at 2:24 pm
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      Only one reason for that is Profit.
      Could also be to block someone else from using this to profit for themselves.

    • July 19, 2013 at 2:41 pm
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      Found this:

      “MARCH 26–The mother of Trayvon Martin has filed two applications to secure trademarks containing her late son’s name, records show.

      Sybrina Fulton is seeking marks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings made last week with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. In both instances, Fulton, 46, is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products.”

      • July 19, 2013 at 3:30 pm
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        Nice research. Money still talks. Any doubt whether there will be a civil trial looking for money, both in a judgement and sales of souvenirs.

        • July 19, 2013 at 3:48 pm
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          No, I don’t doubt there will be a civil trial. I understand the parents anger and anguish. Zimmerman should have left it to the police to handle. None of this would have happened.

      • July 19, 2013 at 8:27 pm
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        Thanks, Libby! I’m not up for research today.

        I can certainly see a need to keep other people from using a child’s tragic death for profit… as FFA said, that could be why the mother took this route. I hadn’t thought of that, I went right to confused.

  • July 19, 2013 at 4:11 pm
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    Lots of mistakes made all the way around.



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