The NFL “hid the risk of concussions”. Um, it’s football, not ballet you knuckleheads. It’s a full contact sport and you tend to get knocked down once in a while. How would it even be possible for the NFL to hide the risk of concussions?? That’s the whole ^$&%^& game!!
These guys got paid big bucks to play the game and knew or should have known they could sustain permanent injuries. They could have chosen to flip burgers or do whatever else they were qualified to do, but they chose to play a full contact sport. Lawsuit FAIL.
They probably weren’t smart enough to know they could sustain permanent injuries. As least from a concussion perspective. Now if the league was smart enough to know or withheld information on severity, preventive measures, returning to the playing field, etc., then they may have a case. Seems like the NFL may be able to defend this by making the players prove that the head injuries occurred in the NFL and not in college or any other time period.
I don’t buy that they weren’t smart enough to know. What are they, 4-year-olds? Don’t most of them have a college education? But, just for the sake of argument, let’s say they didn’t know better. Does that mean that all obese people should sue McDonalds, and say, “Well I didn’t know that eating this food would cause me to have heart problems.” Maybe all the skid-row bums can sue the makers of alcoholic beverages. “Hey, I can’t help it, I just wasn’t smart enough to know better. The companies withheld information.”
Don’t disagree with any of your comments but this case may be a tough one to win for the NFL. They certainly aren’t 4 year olds but about 80% are low income kids that have rarely seen a doctor other than the team physician in college or NFL. And by necessity, the NFL provided the doctors that handled diagnosis and treatment. That player/team doctor/NFL relationship could be the obstacle in the NFL’s defense.
I see your point, especially about the doctors’ handling of it (think Dr. Conrad Murray). They probably have a winnable case, and everyone’s cable/satellite bills will probably go up to pay for it (it definitely won’t come out of the pockets of the NFL leadership and team owners, a.k.a. the culprits).
That being said, I still think there was an assumption of risk, and they loved milking the benefits. I bet they don’t have to wait a long time to see a doctor. I’m sure they get treated better than soldiers who are missing limbs, because football is more important
June 3, 2014 at 1:55 pm
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Don’t Call Me – not disagreeing with you, but just food for thought here (yes, pun intended) –
If suing McD’s can cause a nutritional change in the McDonald’s menu, I’m all for the lawsuit. For now and about the past 12 or 13 years, I’ve refused to eat it. Goes for all fast food, actually. That isn’t food, it’s poison. It’s addictive and peddled to our children with cartoon characters, cheap Chinese toys, and commercials that look more like pop music videos than they do food advertisements. I can’t stand the fast food industry’s business model. It’s exactly what is wrong with our current food paradigm. I’m afraid to eat more foods than I look forward to eating.
Oh, Planet, that’s just sad. I admit I prefer organic foods, but I do occasionally eat fast food. For you to fear food? There’s no reason to fear it. Anything in excess will have adverse affects; moderation is the key to healthy eating.
June 4, 2014 at 2:22 pm
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KY jw –
I see our food industry first hand on a regular basis. If you only knew what I knew…
June 4, 2014 at 4:24 pm
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As Al Bundy once said, “Look at our friend, the mighty cockroach. They were here long before us, and they’ll be here long after us. Why? Because they eat crap!”
June 3, 2014 at 11:10 am
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Like the conservatives say, they could have just gotten another job if they didn’t like it.
I agree. How could they not have known there was a risk of concussion? And if there was a risk, it was incumbent upon them to find out the repercussions. The NFL shouldn’t have to spoon-feed them the information. Besides, how many of them would have given up the big bucks to withdraw from the game and be ridiculed by fans and team members? I’m betting none.
Maybe they were to busy with babes and booze to notice…or care.
They lived hard and now get the consequences of their action.
If I were on a jury, they would NEVER convince me it was not their job to know such hazards.
Lawsuit–FAILS
While I agree with all the comments, the point of the suit is not necessary they didn’t know about concussions, but that the doctors medicated them and sent them back into games. They trusted the doctors and didn’t think anything of trusting the team doctors!!!
Of course the NFL and the players knew that repeatedly bashing in your own head as well as that of your opponent was dangerous. That is a given in the game. However, the NFL had a higher duty to provide benefits for the eventuality of brain injuries since the NFL made billions off the backs of these players. And the players should have been required to buy long term care insurance for them and annunities for their families.
How is a team doctor of the 80’s supposed to prepare a player for the future when these links have only been recently made??
If the science wasn’t there then IT WASN’T THERE! There is no “should’ve known”. And please people this ISN’T NORTH DALLAS FORTY! Athletes that play at this level don’t get there by being lazy bums who want to sit on the sidelines with a sore knee. They are the most competitive in EVERYTHING THEY DO, not just the game. They’re saying, I need back in there, do something.
Have you read, that now they’re also starting another lawsuit against the NFL for prescription drug abuse. Are these gentlemen adults or not? My feelings on this issue is that these men chose to be involved in this sport, and I’m sure that they were well aware that there would be injuries, I mean they aren’t wrapped in bubble wrap. They chose to take the risks of these injuries, and as for the pain meds they were given, they didn’t have to take them. I don’t follow sports, especially football, as I feel that these individuals are paid entirely too much for what they do. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that people idolize these people. It’s actually very, very sad in my opinion.
Back in the day when I played (albeit not professionally), they weren’t called concussions, it was just “getting your bell rung”. No one worried about long term consequences, just getting back into the game. It was just like any physical injury….make it go away so I can play again.
I struggle to see how the NFL was supposed to be able to predict the advances in brain injury medicine down the road that would make concussions a big deal. Players risk all kinds of permanent injuries to play the game. Concussions are just a money grab right now.
I agree, in part, that the game is risky and the players have some responsibility. I just think the various sports leagues or NCAA should provide medical coverage for injuries received while playing.
Why isn’t future medical care part of the cost of doing business? I’m not talking about lost wages or compensation for whatever, just continued medical care for players who were injured.
The NFL “hid the risk of concussions”. Um, it’s football, not ballet you knuckleheads. It’s a full contact sport and you tend to get knocked down once in a while. How would it even be possible for the NFL to hide the risk of concussions?? That’s the whole ^$&%^& game!!
These guys got paid big bucks to play the game and knew or should have known they could sustain permanent injuries. They could have chosen to flip burgers or do whatever else they were qualified to do, but they chose to play a full contact sport. Lawsuit FAIL.
They probably weren’t smart enough to know they could sustain permanent injuries. As least from a concussion perspective. Now if the league was smart enough to know or withheld information on severity, preventive measures, returning to the playing field, etc., then they may have a case. Seems like the NFL may be able to defend this by making the players prove that the head injuries occurred in the NFL and not in college or any other time period.
I don’t buy that they weren’t smart enough to know. What are they, 4-year-olds? Don’t most of them have a college education? But, just for the sake of argument, let’s say they didn’t know better. Does that mean that all obese people should sue McDonalds, and say, “Well I didn’t know that eating this food would cause me to have heart problems.” Maybe all the skid-row bums can sue the makers of alcoholic beverages. “Hey, I can’t help it, I just wasn’t smart enough to know better. The companies withheld information.”
Don’t disagree with any of your comments but this case may be a tough one to win for the NFL. They certainly aren’t 4 year olds but about 80% are low income kids that have rarely seen a doctor other than the team physician in college or NFL. And by necessity, the NFL provided the doctors that handled diagnosis and treatment. That player/team doctor/NFL relationship could be the obstacle in the NFL’s defense.
I see your point, especially about the doctors’ handling of it (think Dr. Conrad Murray). They probably have a winnable case, and everyone’s cable/satellite bills will probably go up to pay for it (it definitely won’t come out of the pockets of the NFL leadership and team owners, a.k.a. the culprits).
That being said, I still think there was an assumption of risk, and they loved milking the benefits. I bet they don’t have to wait a long time to see a doctor. I’m sure they get treated better than soldiers who are missing limbs, because football is more important
Don’t Call Me – not disagreeing with you, but just food for thought here (yes, pun intended) –
If suing McD’s can cause a nutritional change in the McDonald’s menu, I’m all for the lawsuit. For now and about the past 12 or 13 years, I’ve refused to eat it. Goes for all fast food, actually. That isn’t food, it’s poison. It’s addictive and peddled to our children with cartoon characters, cheap Chinese toys, and commercials that look more like pop music videos than they do food advertisements. I can’t stand the fast food industry’s business model. It’s exactly what is wrong with our current food paradigm. I’m afraid to eat more foods than I look forward to eating.
Oh, Planet, that’s just sad. I admit I prefer organic foods, but I do occasionally eat fast food. For you to fear food? There’s no reason to fear it. Anything in excess will have adverse affects; moderation is the key to healthy eating.
KY jw –
I see our food industry first hand on a regular basis. If you only knew what I knew…
As Al Bundy once said, “Look at our friend, the mighty cockroach. They were here long before us, and they’ll be here long after us. Why? Because they eat crap!”
Like the conservatives say, they could have just gotten another job if they didn’t like it.
I agree. How could they not have known there was a risk of concussion? And if there was a risk, it was incumbent upon them to find out the repercussions. The NFL shouldn’t have to spoon-feed them the information. Besides, how many of them would have given up the big bucks to withdraw from the game and be ridiculed by fans and team members? I’m betting none.
Exactly. Personal responsibility. I wonder what Agent thinks of his NFL heroes acting like “libtards”.
wonder if Marino would still be suing if he hadn’t recently lost his job as an announcer?
At least Marino has that gig with Isotoner gloves. And let’s not forget his acting career!
“He was supposed to hold the ball, laces OUT!”
Nutri-System!
Maybe they were to busy with babes and booze to notice…or care.
They lived hard and now get the consequences of their action.
If I were on a jury, they would NEVER convince me it was not their job to know such hazards.
Lawsuit–FAILS
If they win, maybe Ozzy should sue record companies, promoters, etc.
While I agree with all the comments, the point of the suit is not necessary they didn’t know about concussions, but that the doctors medicated them and sent them back into games. They trusted the doctors and didn’t think anything of trusting the team doctors!!!
Of course the NFL and the players knew that repeatedly bashing in your own head as well as that of your opponent was dangerous. That is a given in the game. However, the NFL had a higher duty to provide benefits for the eventuality of brain injuries since the NFL made billions off the backs of these players. And the players should have been required to buy long term care insurance for them and annunities for their families.
How is a team doctor of the 80’s supposed to prepare a player for the future when these links have only been recently made??
If the science wasn’t there then IT WASN’T THERE! There is no “should’ve known”. And please people this ISN’T NORTH DALLAS FORTY! Athletes that play at this level don’t get there by being lazy bums who want to sit on the sidelines with a sore knee. They are the most competitive in EVERYTHING THEY DO, not just the game. They’re saying, I need back in there, do something.
Have you read, that now they’re also starting another lawsuit against the NFL for prescription drug abuse. Are these gentlemen adults or not? My feelings on this issue is that these men chose to be involved in this sport, and I’m sure that they were well aware that there would be injuries, I mean they aren’t wrapped in bubble wrap. They chose to take the risks of these injuries, and as for the pain meds they were given, they didn’t have to take them. I don’t follow sports, especially football, as I feel that these individuals are paid entirely too much for what they do. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that people idolize these people. It’s actually very, very sad in my opinion.
Back in the day when I played (albeit not professionally), they weren’t called concussions, it was just “getting your bell rung”. No one worried about long term consequences, just getting back into the game. It was just like any physical injury….make it go away so I can play again.
I struggle to see how the NFL was supposed to be able to predict the advances in brain injury medicine down the road that would make concussions a big deal. Players risk all kinds of permanent injuries to play the game. Concussions are just a money grab right now.
I agree, in part, that the game is risky and the players have some responsibility. I just think the various sports leagues or NCAA should provide medical coverage for injuries received while playing.
Why isn’t future medical care part of the cost of doing business? I’m not talking about lost wages or compensation for whatever, just continued medical care for players who were injured.