Miami Neighborhood Considers Relocating Homes Amid Sea Rise Concerns

June 13, 2017

  • June 13, 2017 at 8:27 am
    David says:
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    This is stupid. I live on the ocean just a bit north of Miami. I have lived here since 1984 and I can tell you for a fact that there has been absolutely no rise in the sea level here. I’ve read some reports that say the reason we are not seeing any sea level rise is because as glaciers melt, the weight of them being taken off of land masses causes the land to rise (as is happening in Greenland). This land rise is compensating for any extra water in the sea. Then I read NASA’s reports that show that Antartica is collecting 120 billion tons of new ice annually and that far outweighs the glacier losses. Not to mention the polar seas have far more ice in them now then they did in the 1920’s (the north sea was reported ice free up until the 81st parallel in 1922, yet it is still fully iced above the 75th parallel during summers now.) Let’s not forget that top NASA scientists have also reported that due to a change in solar pattern combined with a change in Pacific ocean currents, we are about to go into a rapid global cooling… So yeah, move your houses for some made up threat of sea level rise…

    • June 13, 2017 at 8:50 am
      Confused says:
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      Just because you don’t believe something is happening does not mean others are stupid for taking preventative action before something terrible happens to their homes (or so they believe).

      Homeowners aren’t asking for any government handouts. The government is not forcing them to sell their homes nor is the government taking their land via eminent domain.

      People want to move. It doesn’t impact you at all. What’s your problem with them making this decision for, if nothing else, their own peace of mind?

    • June 13, 2017 at 10:16 am
      SWFL Agent says:
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      I guess since you live on the ocean a bit north of Miami you would know about how, when, and why their neighborhood floods. You need to go down there and tell them to wait this out until the land rises.

      • June 13, 2017 at 12:48 pm
        Doug Fisher says:
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        SWFL,

        Is it possible to bury your head in the sand when the water table is only inches below the ground?

        Things that make you go, “hmmmm”

        Dave, you are combining like 3 or 4 factual things and coming up with an illogical conclusion.

        The fact is, the sea levels have been rising. They were rising even during the nineties to 08 period when Antarctica was adding ice, they will more rapidly rise as Antarctic ice diminishes, rather than increases.

        http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

        “Ocean sea level 2.6 inches higher in 2014 than 1993”

        Note that 2015 and 2016 have both been the hottest years on record, consecutively. 2017 is already on pace for that. I know I shouldn’t have to say this, but the hotter it gets, the faster it will melt, and the faster the sea level will rise.

        These communities are smart to be making a plan of action, or moving inward altogether. There are only so many things that dikes and sea-walls can hold back.

        Check out Louisiana’s coastline comparisons over the years and you can see that state is literally vanishing into the ocean.
        http://mjcdn.motherjones.com/preset_51/coastal_erosion.jpg

        • June 15, 2017 at 1:47 pm
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          OMG, you’re sourcing Mother Jones ?? LOL. The definitive scientific journal !! Too funny.

          • June 15, 2017 at 3:54 pm
            Doug Fisher says:
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            Some people source blogs run by science deniers who cite Young Earthers for their “hard data”, others source left-wing news sites who site actual scientific data for their reporting.

            You may not like the link, but the source of their data is the same as if I chose a scholarly source. I just wanted a pretty map so you guys wouldn’t get lost having to read a paragraph of data.

            See: your ignoring of the content of the post tells me that you aren’t actually interested in learning beyond where you have drawn your mental line in the sand, so to speak. If you would like, I could give you more boring graphs which detail the same damn thing, only this time it would be from the state of Louisiana, NOAA, NASA, etc. Stay ignorant, though.

          • June 16, 2017 at 1:22 pm
            Jax Agent says:
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            Now Doug, I never said I agreed or disagreed with you. What I did say was that I thought it was funny that you would go to the trouble to source (cite) your post at all, but to use Mother Jones is inviting ridicule. Why not tea leaves or just simply ‘the voices in my head’ ?
            If you want to have a thorough understanding of weather patterns, I’m afraid that NOAA and Mother Jones both are relying on very limited data. You will need 400 to 500 years of records in order to more effectively understand what is happening today and what tomorrow may hold for us. Between now and when that kind of data is available, I’ll agree that ‘the voices’ in your head is to be considered conclusive.
            Thank you for playing.

          • June 18, 2017 at 2:56 am
            Doug Fisher says:
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            Yeah, how silly of me to use Mother Jones as a source…

            ht tps://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mother-jones/

            They are the left’s equivalent to the Weekly Standard…

            ht tps://mediabiasfactcheck.com/weekly-standard/

            Keep parroting soundbites you hear on Hannity, though.

      • June 13, 2017 at 12:53 pm
        Doug Fisher says:
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        Is there a pause between you guys submitting commentaries and them posting to the site?

        • June 13, 2017 at 1:53 pm
          Confused says:
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          Not usually for “normal” posts, but it does seem to lag if you’re including link(s) in your reply.

          • June 13, 2017 at 2:14 pm
            Doug Fisher says:
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            Gotcha, since I posted that above post and it gives no indication that it has been approved/rejected/delayed/etc. It has taken up to 2 days for some of my posts to be shown, presumably due to included links, which makes conversation/point refutation almost impossible.

          • June 13, 2017 at 3:30 pm
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            Doug, if you post a link, just break it up, like, “ht tp” and it works

    • June 14, 2017 at 8:59 am
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      @Confused: NOTHING unusual is happening. The high tide in Miami is an infrequent occurrence called a ‘King Tide’ (or something similar; I am recalling this from a report I heard a few weeks ago, so I don’t recall if that’s the exact name). It happens every decade or so, and Gore and other lunatics are trying to convince people who know nothing – like you – to report on it to help him perpetuate the Global Warming Hoax.

      PS ‘Climate Scientist’ is a term for a SUBSET of all Scientists who wrongly believe the Earth’s temperature is significantly affected by human activities. Thus, nearly all ‘Climate Scientists’ believe in the Global Warming Hoax (‘GWH’). It is possible the 2% – 3% of Climate Scientists who do not believe in the GWH are former believers who have seen the light and no longer fall for the Hoax.

      There is no official credential called ‘Climate Scientist’, and it is a phony a term/ credential as the Global Warming Hoax.

      • June 14, 2017 at 10:05 am
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        Yogi – I will pose the same question to you that I asked of David.

        “The homeowners aren’t asking for any government handouts. The government is not forcing them to sell their homes nor is the government taking their land via eminent domain.

        People want to move. It doesn’t impact you at all. What’s your problem with them making this decision for, if nothing else, their own peace of mind?

      • June 14, 2017 at 1:12 pm
        PolarBeaRepeal says:
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        … because Climate Change affected significantly by humans is fake news.

        • June 14, 2017 at 1:37 pm
          Confused says:
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          You previously posted in other articles that people on the coast who were concerned about non-existent climate change should just move inland. Now you have a problem with that too??

          If they want to move because of Climate Change, or fear that snakes will take over their basement, or there are too many kids in their neighborhoods, or they just put in a Walmart….

          Why do you care about their motives when their decision literally has no impact on you at all?

          • June 14, 2017 at 2:09 pm
            Captain Planet says:
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            Confused,
            I can help here. Have you ever seen “Grumpy Old Men”?

          • June 14, 2017 at 2:14 pm
            Confused says:
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            I was wondering how that dead fish got under my front bench seats!

          • June 14, 2017 at 4:53 pm
            Conserving the Truth says:
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            Excellent news, guys. Trump just turned his back on the AHCA. Congratulations!

          • June 14, 2017 at 5:32 pm
            Captain Planet says:
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            Dumb doughy Donnie dollhands just doesn’t know what he wants to do. He flies by the seat of his adult-diapered pants.

      • June 14, 2017 at 3:32 pm
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        You forgot to add chemtrails, illuminati, and $cienti$tS to your post.

        You know they have ways of measuring the tides and sea levels, right?

        Or are the satellites in on the con$piracy, too?! LOL

        • June 14, 2017 at 5:34 pm
          Captain Planet says:
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          Hey, Alex Jones told me there are tiny aircrafts the government controls to move the weather around our 6,000 year old planet.

          • June 16, 2017 at 10:12 pm
            UW says:
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            They control everything. It’s aliens in coordination with the Elite.

            ht tps://youtu.be/7_0f3n8wUHE?t=1m23s

            The best part starts at 2:40. These guys take him, and the BS pushed from his website seriously. It’s a joke, you can’t consider them serious people, because they aren’t. So many stories end up on Fox, and here, after starting on his site.

  • June 16, 2017 at 12:29 pm
    PolarBeaRepeal says:
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    In a matter of years, the streets of Venice, Italy will be underwat…

    oh, never mind.

    • June 17, 2017 at 1:29 am
      Doug Fisher says:
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      Funny you say Venice, since they have been one of the most proactive cities on the planet preparing for what had already reached their front door.

      Not that you care, since accepting truth won’t allow you to keep making snarky comments in earnest.

      • June 19, 2017 at 8:56 am
        Captain Planet says:
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        Many times, the guy can’t get out of his own way. Like his dear leader.

      • June 19, 2017 at 2:04 pm
        Jax Agent says:
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        Actually Doug, Venice was built in water to begin with ! It’s supposed to be underwater and rather than rising water threatening it, it is more likely a sinking city that is doing it.

  • June 16, 2017 at 1:26 pm
    Jax Agent says:
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    Rather than move the houses and the neighborhoods, why not just move the Atlantic Ocean ? Wouldn’t that be easier ?

    • June 16, 2017 at 3:09 pm
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      Nope. The Ocean won’t move, despite what liberals claim.



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