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So this fool goes to a riot, provokes the police, and is surprised that there are consequences to his stupid behavior ? Screw him.
Sounds like the thinking that led to the the Tiananmen Square Massacre. How dare anyone protest the government?
If the police tell you to stand down and you don’t stand down, then there are consequences. The problem is that many of these Occupy persons have never been told no in their life and they don’t handle it well.
At the end of the day, it sounds like this guy got what was coming to him. Next time he’ll get out of the way when told.
If the police give you an unlawful command, you don’t have to obey it.
If the police act in an unlawful manner while “enforcing” the law–they also should suffer the consequences.
And time and again, there are numerous instances of the police violating the law when dealing with the Occupy protesters–wanton destruction of personal property, physical and mental abuse–it goes on. A badge doesn’t mean you get to injure people and property on a whim.
**Note: I, personally, do not support the Occupy movement, but I certainly understand and support their legally protected *right* to protest.
So, since when are legal and peaceful demonstrations “riots?”
What about the police departments’ reckless and stupid (not to mention unlawful and injurious) behavior?
That has been clearly documented at protests across the country?
May I remind you that our police officers across our country put their lives on the line for us and yes–even these Occupy LOSERS every single day. If a person doesn’t stand down when they are told to then they should be well aware what the consequences will be. I have no pity for this loser and I hope his case get thrown out.
You can remind me all you want–and it will not change a thing.
Many of my best friends work for Police departments or Fire departments. I know *exactly* what they risk day in and day out.
However, that does not justify police brutality. It does not justify breaking the law while “enforcing” it.
There is case after case of the police acting unlawfully in regards to the Occupy protesters. Brutalization, emotional torture, and wanton destruction of personal property.
If you believe that every police officer is a shining example of courteousness, upright behavior and regal bearing–then I have this lovely sun-drenched beach vacation spot I’d love to sell you in the Yukon…
Jon, I didn’t see too many peacful demonstrations being boadcasted. What I saw was a bunch of young “entitlement” out of work college students spray paiting buildings, breaking windows of business and what ever else they were doing in their path of destruction. When the police tell you to move, I would suspect that they do mean it. Would any company in their right mind want to hire any of these out-of-control young people who upon graduation want to fill positions at the top of the food chain? I think not.
Always–you saw what was the most newsworthy. (Remember the adage: “If it bleeds, it leads!”)
People sitting or standing around peacefully does not make for good copy. That should be incredibly apparent.
However, in Chicago’s Occupy news-blurbs, they did do interviews with non-hooligans–the retired, the earnest, and above all–the peaceful. There weren’t many of those interviews, but they were there.
Bet you they didn’t get the ratings that the “clashes with police” ones did.
What annoys me most about IJ comments on the Occupy phenomena are the blatant “all the protesters are 20 year old unemployed scumbags” when anyone who paid attention to what was actually happening would see that it’s not that simple, nor that black-and-white of an issue.
It would be akin to stating “all Republicans are self-indulged, arrogant amoral racists” when clearly that is not true. SOME Republicans (and many Tea Party’ers) may represent that image, but it is not representational of the entire whole.
I’ve about had my fill of these lazy ner-do-wells who haven’t worked a day in their lives and protest, protest, protest and then complain when they don’t follow the instructions of sworn officers and feel that they were hurt! He ought to go to DC and ‘occupy’ the lawn at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.;
Yes, clearly the septuagenarians in the protest who lost their entire retirement funds have never worked a day in their lives…
Are you kidding, Jon??? Have you seen any of the news reports showing these losers? I haven’t seen one of them that looks even close to 70 years old. These people are losers that if they put all of that energy into being productive citizens, something good may actually have come out of it.
I can bet I’ve paid more attention that most of the ranting IJ’ers…
And I have seen interviews of retirees who were in the protest–where they discussed *why* they were protesting.
So…if I understand you correctly–exercising a constitutional right makes one a “loser” and “non-productive?”
Had Enought – I am one of the 99% and I have worked everyday for the last 25 years and have never taken advantage of any government or state programs and have never asked for help from ANYONE….yet the government keeps taking more and more of my lower middle class hard earned money away from me. I take offense to your sterotype which only perpetuates bias. I bet you are a hateful person!
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I’m surprised he was able to get off of work to go protest. Oh, that’s right…..
Careful – If the settlement is large enough, he could wind up in the 1%. Thats gotta be a scary thought for a 99 percenter!
The constitution states that we have the right to assemble. I dont care who does it, the police have to observe our rights as tax paying citizens.
Stating this, for the Grace of God go I and these people have fallen on hard times just as the rest of the country has. Why dont Americans care about Americans anymore? People wake up or our civil rights will end soon. JUST MY OPINION!
We have the right to assemble, yes – but that doesn’t give us the right to trespass. That’s the problem with the Occupiers – they think the right to assemble is a blanket of protection and it’s not. If Occupiers are assembling on privately owned property then they are trespassing and are not within their right to assemble.
I don’t know about the particular park in question in this incident, but I do know that many “city” parks are actually privately owned and allow public/city use.
I have been to Tea Party gatherings and to Occupy gatherings. The occupy participants are for the most part filthy, foul mouthed, and rude and as near as I can tell don’t work and don’t want to work. The Tea Party crowd are polite and well behaved and clean up after themselves.
Note to Jon- The Septugenarians who lost their retirement funds obviously did work and many of them (including me) lost their shirts in the last few years. But it wasn’t the 99% or the successful wealthy population who caused our current woes.
We have a federal government run by acedemics who have no clue about how the economy works. They have sucked so many resources out of our economy and caused so much uncertainty that we may never recover.
The great unwashed are happy with Obama’s handouts and they don’t mind being part of a growing and permanent underclass. It may be just as well that I don’t have many years left.
Waterbug, YOU hit the nail on the head. I’m surprised that you had 21 people who did not like you post. They must be leftist who like what Obama has done to the great country and believe all the lies he’s told us over the years. I’m still waiting for the transparency to start. Glad I didn’t’ hold my breath. Obama wants to keep out jobs from going overseas. Did he think about that when the government mandated that we purchase the new corkscrew type “green” light bulbs that are now being made in China? No, I don’t suppose he did.
Well said, sylvanchick. There is a difference between the right to assemble peaceably and taking over private property. If the police tell you to move on, then move on, it should not take being carried off, by your bandana to get you moving, unless you chose not to move when told.
I live in Portland. There have been MANY clashes with the protestors and the police here. Portland Police are NOTORIOUS for overuse of force in many, many situations.
Some of the protestors have been a bit unruly and destructive, however the vast majority are peaceful and nonviolent.
And it was a public city park, not a privately owned park.