It’s disturbing that the Boy Scouts has recently chosen to allow for gay scout leaders. As a former Boy Scout, I can no longer support this organization. Now before someone cries afoul, keep in mind, this is a group of boys who may subject to a gay leader, not a very good position to put boys in nor is it acceptable give the history of pedophilia among gay men.
The alleged acts all took place prior to allowing gay men to be leaders. This must mean that these predators were heterosexual.
The fact that you are withdrawing your support for an organization responsible for creating many great leaders, and will continue to do so, is incredibly sad. However, I do not think they will miss you.
In addition, there have always been gay scout leaders. Assuming your assertion that a gay leader is more likely to be a pedophile, which you have not proven, wouldn’t you rather know than have a false sense of security?
History of pedophilia among gay men?.. please provide some proof that it is higher than that of striaght men and girls. Having been in the scounts too, I personally have no problem with the decision. Gay men prefer other men, not boys. Same as most straight men prefer women, not girls.
Here is some data published on Wikipedia about the Catholic Church Sex Abuse Travesty:
The report stated there were approximately 10,667 reported victims (younger than 18 years) of clergy sexual abuse between 1950 and 2002:
Around 81% of these victims were male.
One note on these stats, 81% were boys, however the gay population is not more than 3% of the population, If one does the numbers, this is over 30 fold rate for the straight population, its truly sick.
Furthermore, there is an organization called Man Boy Love Association (MANBLA) that is fighting to lower the age of consent so that they can legally practice their perverted sexual behavior. Let me ask you, is there any kind of organization for straight men that wants to push to have sex with young girls, let alone trying to lower the age of consent? Also what has the gay community done about MANBLA? Nothing! I truly believe it’s because many in the community approve of this organization as they see it as another alternative lifestyle.
Again.. trying to paint the gay community as approving of NAMBLA (at least get the name/acronmy right) is wrong. While I agree the thought is of this organization disgusting, it deals with trying to gain acceptability for pedophilia versus homosexuality. Different discussion. ANYONE who has a predilection for children, regardless of their sexual orientation, should be unable to deal with children. You are going after men in your statement. What about a homosexual woman leading a troop of girl scouts or for that matter a straight man? I would be leery of the man’s intentions.
It’s not a good idea for straight men to be leading a girl scout troop, even though straight men don’t have as bad of a record with pedophilia as gay men. Nevertheless I still don’t think its a good idea to send straight men camping with young girls, the wrong thing can happen. We need to put kids way ahead of needs of adults, even if the want to serve a leadership role because the risks if it only happens to just one person is too devastating and damaging for that child. It’s just like insurance underwriting, if these is a shred of a bad element with the risk, loss control comes in to minimize or eliminate such risk. Lastly, they used to publish statistics on gay vs. straight pedophiles, however the gay agenda has went at great lengths so prevent this from every being published again. What does this tell you?
re: “nor is it acceptable give [sic] the history of pedophilia among gay men.”
Hoo, boy. Talk about your broad brush. Not all gay men are pedophiles, and your attempt to blur the distinction is disingenuous. That’s akin to being concerned about the number of black males walking free in society given their higher incarceration rate relative to that of white men.
Fair, I don’t care if only 1% of gay men are pedophiles. That is way too many and gays don’t need to be around young impressionable boys to practice their perverted life style and yes, it is child abuse no matter how you try to justify it.
When you say something, you want to be able to back it up, not just to say it because you don’t like the evidence that has been pointed out to you. I personally cannot say that lesbians have a history of pedophilia, because there is no strong evidence of this. However the track record is very clear on a number of fronts for gay men as I have pointed out. Of course it’s not all gay men, but evidence suggests that the percentages are significantly higher than those of straight men. The Boys Scouts bowed to political pressure, the needs of gay men were put way ahead of the children that are supposed to benefit from this. Boys scouts has no value to me anymore, especially when politics is being injected into it to satisfy a group, not the boys it is supposed to help. The gay lobby has just went to far, they have deemed their lifestyle more important than anything else and have no regard for the kids.
September 3, 2015 at 3:25 pm
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Be careful, Fair Playing Field – I think you’re feeding the troll by continuing this conversation.
I hear you, Rosenblatt. I find it odd that the troll is apparently okay with heterosexual pedophiles since he raised no objection to them. I guess he’s more tolerant of them since their sexual proclivities are similar to his.
It’s disturbing that the Boy Scouts has recently chosen to allow for gay scout leaders. As a former Boy Scout, I can no longer support this organization. Now before someone cries afoul, keep in mind, this is a group of boys who may subject to a gay leader, not a very good position to put boys in nor is it acceptable give the history of pedophilia among gay men.
Agent,
The alleged acts all took place prior to allowing gay men to be leaders. This must mean that these predators were heterosexual.
The fact that you are withdrawing your support for an organization responsible for creating many great leaders, and will continue to do so, is incredibly sad. However, I do not think they will miss you.
In addition, there have always been gay scout leaders. Assuming your assertion that a gay leader is more likely to be a pedophile, which you have not proven, wouldn’t you rather know than have a false sense of security?
History of pedophilia among gay men?.. please provide some proof that it is higher than that of striaght men and girls. Having been in the scounts too, I personally have no problem with the decision. Gay men prefer other men, not boys. Same as most straight men prefer women, not girls.
No child should ever be sexually abused by either Scout leaders or by Catholic priests. These predators should be identified and shunned by society.
Agent,
You are absolutely correct.
Here is some data published on Wikipedia about the Catholic Church Sex Abuse Travesty:
The report stated there were approximately 10,667 reported victims (younger than 18 years) of clergy sexual abuse between 1950 and 2002:
Around 81% of these victims were male.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
This is based on the John Jay report:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jay_Report
One note on these stats, 81% were boys, however the gay population is not more than 3% of the population, If one does the numbers, this is over 30 fold rate for the straight population, its truly sick.
Furthermore, there is an organization called Man Boy Love Association (MANBLA) that is fighting to lower the age of consent so that they can legally practice their perverted sexual behavior. Let me ask you, is there any kind of organization for straight men that wants to push to have sex with young girls, let alone trying to lower the age of consent? Also what has the gay community done about MANBLA? Nothing! I truly believe it’s because many in the community approve of this organization as they see it as another alternative lifestyle.
Again.. trying to paint the gay community as approving of NAMBLA (at least get the name/acronmy right) is wrong. While I agree the thought is of this organization disgusting, it deals with trying to gain acceptability for pedophilia versus homosexuality. Different discussion. ANYONE who has a predilection for children, regardless of their sexual orientation, should be unable to deal with children. You are going after men in your statement. What about a homosexual woman leading a troop of girl scouts or for that matter a straight man? I would be leery of the man’s intentions.
It’s not a good idea for straight men to be leading a girl scout troop, even though straight men don’t have as bad of a record with pedophilia as gay men. Nevertheless I still don’t think its a good idea to send straight men camping with young girls, the wrong thing can happen. We need to put kids way ahead of needs of adults, even if the want to serve a leadership role because the risks if it only happens to just one person is too devastating and damaging for that child. It’s just like insurance underwriting, if these is a shred of a bad element with the risk, loss control comes in to minimize or eliminate such risk. Lastly, they used to publish statistics on gay vs. straight pedophiles, however the gay agenda has went at great lengths so prevent this from every being published again. What does this tell you?
re: “nor is it acceptable give [sic] the history of pedophilia among gay men.”
Hoo, boy. Talk about your broad brush. Not all gay men are pedophiles, and your attempt to blur the distinction is disingenuous. That’s akin to being concerned about the number of black males walking free in society given their higher incarceration rate relative to that of white men.
Fair, I don’t care if only 1% of gay men are pedophiles. That is way too many and gays don’t need to be around young impressionable boys to practice their perverted life style and yes, it is child abuse no matter how you try to justify it.
LOL! Who’s trying to “justify” pedophilia? Nice try, though.
One more time for the mentally challenged in this forum – homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing. Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder.
Sincerely,
Conservative yet tolerant straight former scout
Aren’t pedophiles more likely to be heterosexual, anyway?
When you say something, you want to be able to back it up, not just to say it because you don’t like the evidence that has been pointed out to you. I personally cannot say that lesbians have a history of pedophilia, because there is no strong evidence of this. However the track record is very clear on a number of fronts for gay men as I have pointed out. Of course it’s not all gay men, but evidence suggests that the percentages are significantly higher than those of straight men. The Boys Scouts bowed to political pressure, the needs of gay men were put way ahead of the children that are supposed to benefit from this. Boys scouts has no value to me anymore, especially when politics is being injected into it to satisfy a group, not the boys it is supposed to help. The gay lobby has just went to far, they have deemed their lifestyle more important than anything else and have no regard for the kids.
Be careful, Fair Playing Field – I think you’re feeding the troll by continuing this conversation.
I hear you, Rosenblatt. I find it odd that the troll is apparently okay with heterosexual pedophiles since he raised no objection to them. I guess he’s more tolerant of them since their sexual proclivities are similar to his.