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Recently I came upon this forum.

I was reading a post about why do people buy insurance from you and it said that 90% of agents are not good.

Wow, 9 out of 10 are not good?

I'm new to this forum and maybe I'll hide back in the wings.

Statistically speaking that means an awful lot of people posting on this forum must be in the 90%. Can I believe what they are telling me? Is that post correct are most agents bad and dishonest?

And you like to twist words...

Scott's response is from Scott's unique perspective. If I understand what he does correctly, he's a consultant that handles the insurance for the ultimate buyer.

scott wrote: 10% are good
10% are bad
80% are mediocre

The bad are lazy, sloppy, and dishonest.

The mediocre go along with just enough energy and ability to get by.

The good return calls quickly. May not know the answer but get it for me quickly. They keep their promises and do their best. When they make a mistake they step forward and admit it. They provide real value to their clients.

Didn't mean to twist words so here is a paste from that site. I must go soon to pick up my daughter so I'll be quick.

You confuse me about the unique perspective. I had philosophy in college and did some debating. If I remember there was something about concepts expressing fundamental beliefs.

So if you express your belief, it is your belief. I can't twist a fundamental belief. If you believe that 10% are good the remainder can not be good because you have expressed your fundemental belief that 10% are good.

Gotta run. Day care charges extra when we are late.

I just thought is was weird to read on a site that is full of insurance people.



<<10% are good
10% are bad
80% are mediocre

The bad are lazy, sloppy, and dishonest.

The mediocre go along with just enough energy and ability to get by.>>

[quote="independent guy"] And you like to twist words...

Scott's response is from Scott's unique perspective. If I understand what he does correctly, he's a consultant that handles the insurance for the ultimate buyer.

[quote="scott"]
10% are good
10% are bad
80% are mediocre

The bad are lazy, sloppy, and dishonest.

The mediocre go along with just enough energy and ability to get by.

The good return calls quickly. May not know the answer but get it for me quickly. They keep their promises and do their best. When they make a mistake they step forward and admit it. They provide real value to their clients.
[/quote][/quote]

Robert Johnson wrote:Didn't mean to twist words so here is a paste from that site. I must go soon to pick up my daughter so I'll be quick.

You confuse me about the unique perspective. I had philosophy in college and did some debating. If I remember there was something about concepts expressing fundamental beliefs.

So if you express your belief, it is your belief. I can't twist a fundamental belief. If you believe that 10% are good the remainder can not be good because you have expressed your fundemental belief that 10% are good.

Gotta run. Day care charges extra when we are late.

I just thought is was weird to read on a site that is full of insurance people.

You're right, it is a weird thing to read. Scott is a consultant, and he was stating his perspective on those agents that he works with. I don't see anything there that says that 90% of agents are bad and dishonest. YOU added that in.

My point - perhaps poorly made - is that it takes very little to stand out in a crowd.

I probably should have said that 10% are exceptional, 10% bad and 80% mediocre.

I have a great deal of respect for the exceptional and those who strive to be that standard.

My experience is that the exceptional are in the distinct minority.

I found the post that was mentioned. I understand how Robert got confused / twisted. What he should have said is that only 10% of agents are good, period.

Still I do agree with you, it is weird to post on an insurance site that only 10% of agents are good. That leaves us all thinking.....would Scott put us in the good column?

I guess we could discuss the percentages for consultants but to me that is not productive. Neither is it productive to give opinions about all of us working as agents.

As an agent I can't count the amount of energy I've spent trying to get people insured for the correct amount and in the end they search and find someone else that will write it for them. How's that go, you can lead a horse to water.........

<<10% are good
10% are bad
80% are mediocre

The bad are lazy, sloppy, and dishonest.

The mediocre go along with just enough energy and ability to get by.>>

independent guy wrote:

Robert Johnson wrote:Didn't mean to twist words so here is a paste from that site. I must go soon to pick up my daughter so I'll be quick.

You confuse me about the unique perspective. I had philosophy in college and did some debating. If I remember there was something about concepts expressing fundamental beliefs.

So if you express your belief, it is your belief. I can't twist a fundamental belief. If you believe that 10% are good the remainder can not be good because you have expressed your fundemental belief that 10% are good.

Gotta run. Day care charges extra when we are late.

I just thought is was weird to read on a site that is full of insurance people.

You're right, it is a weird thing to read. Scott is a consultant, and he was stating his perspective on those agents that he works with. I don't see anything there that says that 90% of agents are bad and dishonest. YOU added that in.

Scott is using agents as an example. However, I think if you take his example and compare it to any business you will probably find the same statistics. Most people just do enough work to not get fired. It is true but sad. I would say that more than have of the people in this business or any business for that matter are there for the money and don't really love what they do. I am in the top 10% because I love what I do. My prospects become clients because I love what I do and my clients stay with me because I love what I do. If and/or when I stop loving this business I will move on to something I love and be in the top 10% of that industry.

I don't know about statistics, but i think most of the people on this forum are highly knowledgebale and interesting

Scott you dirty dog you, your back again preaching consulting. You really should be consulting the DM's of Farmers Insurance. You guys, come on Scott beats to a different drum and Love pounding the computer keys, give it up he'll out type all of you....

I don't think this thread is going to go any further...