Same-Sex Couple Cites Loss of Consortium in Conn. Med-Mal Suit

July 19, 2006

  • July 19, 2006 at 12:50 pm
    One reason why not... says:
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    Here is just one reason why the civil union bull nonsense should not have been passed there and should not be passed anywhere. If they were man and wife as in the normal sense of marriage, that would apply. However, they were not legally married so they should not be able to sue. As usual, the dopes known as lawyers are always too happy to go forth with a new way to scam everyone by filing suit for something new (in case you did not know this, lawyers scour different types of insurance policies and laws to try and figure out a new area to open up to litigation). Of course it is for the good of the people that they do this and it has nothing to do with their finances!

  • July 19, 2006 at 1:16 am
    Pat says:
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    I have heard no one put forth a rational reason why, if two women can be \”married,\” why three women shouldn\’t be allowed to pretend to be married. If so, would the other two women be eligible for loss of consortium if one were injured? What if it\’s four women and three men, would six of them be eligible for it if one were injured?

    This is the main reason these people want to be allowed to marry – benefits. In other words, it\’s purely materialistic and selfish.

  • July 19, 2006 at 1:22 am
    Scott Romoser says:
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    Ok, this couple joined in a civil union 11/12/2005 or less than one year ago. Mueller, according to this article has had \”years of treatment\” for her cancer. I don\’t understand how loss of consortium would apply here. Didn\’t Stacey\’s loss occur prior to the union? Besides that, wasn\’t she perfectly aware of Mueller’s condition prior to the union?

    This is proof positive that frivolous lawsuits can be filled by both heterosexual and homosexual people.

  • July 19, 2006 at 2:17 am
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    So let me get this straight (no pun intended). This couple has been together for 21 years and because the law would not allow them to get married before a year ago, they should be punished or be told their lawsuit has no merit? Let me point out that their 21 year relationship is longer than most heterosexual marriages. As far as trying to attribute the sanctity of marriage in a country where divorces are more common than marriages, a country where a person can be married and divorced several times (sounds like the 2 & 3 women argument), a country where you can get married by Elvis,and a country that makes a game show out of marriage ( i.e.. Marry a Millionaire, Marry my Dad, etc), thats ridiculous.

    Don\’t judge my relationships, and I will not judge yours!

  • July 19, 2006 at 2:30 am
    Pat says:
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    The involvement of the state in instituting no-fault divorce has led to the proliferation of divorce. It isn\’t the inherent fault of the institution. Therefore, the solution to the high divorce rate is that no-fault divorce be done away with, not that marriage be changed after thousands of years. Further state tweaking of marriage can only lead to more disaster, as with most everything the state becomes involved with that is outside its legitimate sphere of authority.

    You can engage in whatever kind of \”relationship\” you wish so long as you keep it indoors. Who cares? But to legitimize perversion by declaring it on a par with traditional marriage is ludicrous.

    \”Gays\” should go and found their own civilization with its own unique institutions if that\’s what they want. Then I will say, \”Don\’t pervert my institutions and I won\’t pervert yours.\” Come to think of it, unless they recruited normal children into their \”lifestyle,\” it would be a very brief experiment, wouldn\’t it?

  • July 19, 2006 at 2:40 am
    Bob Laublaw says:
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    Pat please go somewhere else. The hate and bigotry you spew is not wanted here. You offer no logic in you statements and makes you look more stupid than you already are.

  • July 19, 2006 at 2:42 am
    sleepydogg says:
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    Scott learn to read and learn about laws and then come back to this baord. Your ignorance is blinding…

  • July 19, 2006 at 2:45 am
    Scott Romoser says:
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    Ok Sleepydogg, enlighten me.

  • July 19, 2006 at 2:45 am
    Misty Meanor says:
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    I think Pat\’s parents used this same argument against interfaith and interracial marriages. Well the sky didn\’t fall then and it won\’t now. Maybe bigots like you should go find your own civilization and let the enlightened people live happily and you can be miserable on your island of hate.

  • July 19, 2006 at 2:47 am
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    I wish I could find my society where everyone is equal (according to the Constitution) where blacks can marry whites, where women are equals instead of subservient. Come to think about it, I am in that society. Its funny how our Founding Fathers wanted a country where they would not be persecuted for their believes, and yet here you are persecuting me.

    Instead of listening to your perverted preachers, do a little reading and research on the subject. You might be surprised what you find.

  • July 19, 2006 at 2:49 am
    Pat says:
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    So if I want to preserve the oldest and most basic human institution from being altered to suit sexual deviants, I\’m a hater?

    Go invent your own institutions and do with them what you will, and leave normal people -and their children- alone.

  • July 19, 2006 at 3:11 am
    Scott Romoser says:
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    Sleepydogg I seriously need you help with this. I may be ignorant of the law but are you implying that someone can marry a person after a relationship of many years, knowing that they have and have had cancer, knowing that they have been and are being treated for cancer and knowing that their relationship was, is and will be impaired due to the treatment of the cancer (whether correctly diagnosed or not) and still claim loss of consortium? Even after less than a year of marriage?

  • July 19, 2006 at 4:02 am
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    Pat, you\’re a bigoted hater! The world changes, gay people are here to stay, and they don\’t corrupt children. There are so many straight unfit parents out there that any argument of gays being less fit to be parents means that we\’ll need to start taking children away from every moron out there that has children. Many people would argue that YOU shouldn\’t be raising kids as you would instill a hateful prejudiced view in your children. Normal is relative and not everyone believes what you do. At least gays have to decide to have children, unlike many people who enter parenthood accidentally, often when they are not responsible or intelligent enough to raise children effectively. I\’m not gay, but would rather live in a gay society than in one full of people like you! Marriage is not a holy institution, it is abused by people of all races, religions, sexual orientations, and income levels.

  • July 19, 2006 at 6:33 am
    Read the Bible, enuf said says:
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    The Bible tells you what is right and what is wrong and gay/lesbian is wrong.

    Interesting that they feel so compelled to force their beliefs on the rest of us, maybe it is time for us to fight back with our beliefs which are based on the Bible and plainly what is right and what is wrong. If you are gay, God Bless you but keep it to yourself. You DO NOT deserve special favor or laws just because you are. Grow up and join the rest of the world, just keep your intimate side of you private, the public is sick of it being shoved in our faces as if that is your right to do because you are gay. No I am not a hater or a bigot, I am just fed up with all the special rights certain groups of people get and because I am not in one of those special groups, I have pay my own way and not expect the rest to make my happy and to pay my way in life. You know what? That is the way it should be for everyone. I do not owe you a living because you are gay, you are black, you are an immigrant, or you are a certain religion. Get over it already.

  • July 20, 2006 at 7:51 am
    P:at says:
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    \”The world changes, gay people are here to stay, and they don\’t corrupt children.\”

    \”Gays\” comprise about 3% of the population, but homosexual child molestation is over-represented by a factor of about x20.

    As for gays being the new normal, is this what you mean?

    43 percent of white male homosexuals had sex with five hundred or more partners, with 28 percent having 1,000 or more sex partners. (A. P. Bell and M. S. Weinberg, Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1978), pp. 308, 309; See alsoA. P. Bell, M. S. Weinberg, and S. K. Hammersmith, Sexual Preference (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1981).

    Is \”gay marriage\” supposed to calm them down?

    In The Male Couple, authors David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison report that in a study of 156 males in homosexual relationships lasting from one to thirty-seven years: Only seven couples have a totally exclusive sexual relationship, and these men all have been together for less than five years. Stated another way, all couples with a relationship lasting more than five years have incorporated some provision for outside sexual activity in their relationships. (David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (Englewood Cliffs: Prentice-Hall, 1984), pp. 252, 253.)

    http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01J3#edn33

    I think the true haters are the blind who are leading the blind.

  • July 20, 2006 at 8:50 am
    Just Tired says:
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    Whatever the issue, there is ONE thing that is very tiring and worrisome. I live in a country I thought was based on a principal of \”majority rules\”. But more and more, and then even more, and then still more, various procedures and practices, laws, and administrative actions seem to favor the minority needs over the majority needs.

    In the reality of the working world, employers are afraid to discipline inferior workers who fit some minority profile, for fear of being sued. I\’m not implying even slightly that minority workers are ALL inferior because that\’s not true. There are good and bad workers from all races, creeds, nationalities. But if employers make decisions based on who is most likely to be \”offended\” and sue, rather than merit, we wind up with strange scenarios.

    Are we approaching a point where in an effort to make a level playing field for all conceivable minority groups, we have in fact created an impossibly uneven playing field for the majority?

  • July 20, 2006 at 9:31 am
    Not Christian says:
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    \”Because the Bible says so.\” It\’s the lamest excuse for anything I can think of.

    The bible was written by humans centuries after the stories took place. Parts of the bible were omitted and added to in order to suit someone\’s political agenda. How ignorant of you.

    By the way, I\’ve read the bible as well as holy books from other religions.

  • July 20, 2006 at 9:35 am
    Ignorant is as ignorant does says:
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    Where did NOT CHRISTIAN (which probably explains it) purchase the Bible he/she supposedly read, Iran?

    At least I know I do not have to be afraid to meet my maker concerning the issues being discussed here. Others yes, just as you and everyone else will so take care of your own business and look in the mirror, you will find ignorance there I am sure.

    If you respond, think before you spew.

  • July 20, 2006 at 9:59 am
    Pat says:
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    \”The bible was written by humans centuries after the stories took place. Parts of the bible were omitted and added to in order to suit someone\’s political agenda. How ignorant of you.\”

    Please supply us with a list of texts that were added and omitted, and the dates, and which agendas were served. Bible should be capitalized, BTW.

    Thanks.

  • July 20, 2006 at 11:04 am
    SEPARATE Church & State says:
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    This country was founded on equal rights. It should, by law then, hold equal rights for all – white, black, gay, straight, male or female, regardless of race or religious beliefs. When any religious group mandates that their religious beliefs are the \”Right\” ones and other beliefs are \”wrong\”, that infringes on someone else\’s (an American Citizen\’s) beliefs, rights and ability to pursue happiness. Everyone should be given equal rights IN THE LAW.

    If a straight married couple has the right to sue for loss of consortium, then a same-sex couple should also be allowed that right. By law.

    What the Bible says is irrelevant, as that is the basis of a religious belief system. If you don\’t like it, then don\’t unite gay couples in your church! The more that religion is forced upon the legal rights of people in our country, the farther away from equality we get.

    For those that call gays \”perverse\”, are so offended by the lifestyle, and feel they are being forced into dealing with this \”perversion\”, clean up your own life! Why are you so focused on what others are doing?? What are you threatened by?? Is your own house in order? Are your kids perfect? What have you done to help \”your fellow man\” lately?? Don\’t answer these questions here, on this board, but in your own life. Quit trying to force your own beliefs on others – why do you think you\’re any better than anyone else??
    Open your minds just a little. You\’ll find that there\’s much more out there that\’s much more important that what your neighbors do in bed.

  • July 20, 2006 at 11:21 am
    Pat says:
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    Wow, and here I thought that the pilgrims came here to worhip and beleive according to their consciences. Please allow me to quote some influential Americans from days gone by who might disagree with you:

    “The real object of the [First] Amendment was not to countenance, much less advance, Mahometanism, or Judaism, or infidelity by prostrating Chrisianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects.” \”Christianity becomes not merely an auxiliary, but a guide, to the law of nature; establishing its conclusions, removing its doubts, and evaluating its precepts.\” -Joseph Story, Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court 1811-1845, founder of Harvard Law School.

    \”The American population is entirely Christian, and with us Christianity and Religion are identified. It would be strange indeed, if with such a people, our institutions did not presuppose Christianity, and did not often refer to it, and exhibit relations with it.\” -John Marshall, Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court from 1801-1835.

    \”We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.\” -Congress of the United States of America.

    \”Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.\” -John Jay, First Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court and co-author of the Federalist Papers.

    \”No free government now exists in the world, unless where Christianity is acknowledged, and is the religion of the country.\” -Pennsylvania Supreme Court, 1824. Updegraph v. Commonwealth; 11 Serg. & R. 393, 406.

    \”The only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be laid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.\” -Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration of Independence.

    Oh, and here’s a quote from someone on your side â€â€Ŕ tell me please, who wants to dictate to others:

    “…if American champions of civil liberty could all think in terms of economic freedom as the goal of their labors, they too would accept ‘workers’ democracy’ as far superior to what the capitalist world offers to any but a small minority. Yes, and they would accept — regretfully, of course — the necessity of dictatorship while the job of reorganizing society on a socialist basis is being done.” “I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.” -Roger Baldwin, Unitarian, Founding Director of the American Civil Liberties Union.

  • July 20, 2006 at 11:58 am
    This is what is wrong today says:
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    What the Bible says is irrelevant, as that is the basis of a religious belief system.

  • July 20, 2006 at 12:57 pm
    Pat says:
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    Secular liberalism is also a religion. It\’s main prophets are Marx, Darwin and Freud, its scriptures are their books and rantings, its holy land is Moscow (oops!), its temples are public schools, its sacrament is abortion, and its preachers are the mainstream press. Everyone of these people or entities is totally discredited.

    So go on and bash the basis for western civilization. Whaddya gonna replace it with? Right now tolerance for \”gays\” and hating Bush is all y\’all got going for your side. Good luck!

  • July 20, 2006 at 1:00 am
    Wheels says:
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    Just Tired has it right.

    I am for same-sex marriage, but the majority isn\’t. The matter keeps getting voted down, so obviously the majority of our democracy doesn\’t support it.

    When the majority is for it, let it happen. Until then, quit picking on each other about grammatical errors, and have an intelligent discussion.

  • July 20, 2006 at 1:28 am
    SEPARATE Church & State says:
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    Pat – are you at work today?? Does your boss know how much time you\’re spending posting to bulletin boards and looking up quotes on company time? Maybe you should see this other article on Insurance Journal today, about employee productivity (or lack of):
    http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2006/07/19/70586.htm

    BTW – some of your quotes proved my point. Thanks.

    My statement about \”what the Bible says is irrelevant…\” was taken out of context by \”what is wrong today\” – I was speaking in the context of the LAW and Gay Marriage, not in moral code of conduct or personal beliefs.

    This is not the forum for a discussion about the Bible. This is Insurance and the law, and I still think that a gay couple should be allowed the same rights LEGALLY as a straight couple.

  • July 20, 2006 at 1:40 am
    Who made you God? says:
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    So you decide what this forum is? I thought you were for free speech?

    Gotcha, both sides of the mouth resulting in slobber.

    Bye you all, some of us do have to work

  • July 20, 2006 at 1:55 am
    SEPARATE Church & State says:
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    you missed the point completely. none of us are god.
    all about free speech, but time & place people… time & place….
    just not appropriate – think.

  • July 20, 2006 at 2:08 am
    Much Ado About Nothing says:
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    As an insurance adjuster I do have some questions about a loss of consortium claim where the tort began before the union was created but I see no reason why this relationship sanctioned by the CT legislature should be treated any different than when a man and woman enter into a legal marriage. That this is much ado about nothing as can be seen by the fact that the lawyer for the doctor does not intend to challenge the claim by the partner.

    While not directly relevant to the legal issue in the article, I might as well throw my two cents in regarding the overall issue– I don\’t feel that my marriage to the woman I have loved for over 30 years and who, with a little help from me, raised our three children, is in any way diminished if other couples who are of the same sex are allowed to marry also. How do gay marriages in any way threaten or lessen in value what I have? How do gay marriages threaten any marriage of a man and woman? Again, much ado about nothing.

  • July 20, 2006 at 2:33 am
    Pat says:
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    “Gay” marriage devalues marriage because it changes the institution from an exclusive covenant between a man and a woman to…. What? Two women? Three men? Two women and three men? I and the billions of others who married into Set A. are now going to be identified with Set B. against our wills. In Sweden, where gay “marriage” has been around forever, hetero-marriage rates have plummeted for this reason: marriage is seen to be less meaningful now that it is open to people in unnatural relationships.

    Also, since tragically, children can now be adopted by “gays” in some states, it consigns some children to families that will never have a father or a mother, as the case may be.

    The fact that this can even be debated seriously is not only a sign of cultural decline, but suggests that homosexuals will stop at nothing to pervert everything in order to make themselves seem normal. There are already rumblings among homos about how churches that do not marry or ordain them should be penalized by the govt. They will destroy everything that makes them feel bad.

  • July 20, 2006 at 3:12 am
    Much Ado About Nothing says:
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    It is true that Sweden and other European countries have had civil unions for about ten years but where is the proof of causation for any decrease in the marriage rate???? Sweden has a much lower rate of teen pregnancies then we do. Is that also the result of civil unions? If so, should the Federal government require states to adopt civil union laws????

    I guess we should just agree to disagree as I still do not see my marriage devalued or the covenant with my wife to be any less exclusive.

    As to the issue of cultural decline I have heard people say this for decades but the world still seems to be doing ok. When I started in insurance it was a world where all middle and upper level people in the company were white and male and all the \”girls\” were clerks and were usually white women as blacks weren\’t hired for any positions (and still were at the back of the bus when I was very young in some parts of the US.)Everyone smoked at their desk and environmentalism was some crazy idea as everyone knew smokestacks meant progress and were good things.Drunk drivers were often simply told to be more careful if stopped by the police as it was no big deal and you could always plead any DWI ticket if you got one down to an equipment violation. You never heard about incest or child molestation because no one ever talked about it other than in whisphers and rape was usually the woman\’s fault. You had no OSHA or mine safety laws — I remember when 5 or ten miners dying as happened in this last year was not big news as it recently was as it happened all the time.

    As you can probably tell, I am in favor of \”cultural decline\” and hope it continues.

  • July 20, 2006 at 3:26 am
    Pat says:
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    Since 1960, violent crime increased 560%; bastardy increased 419%; divorce is up 400%, children in single-parent homes is up 300%, teenage suicides are up 200%, while SAT scores are down 80 points. Let’s not even get into AIDS and the increase of STD’s. If you want to make a joke about being in favor of cultural decline as measured by socialistic government and nanny-state finger wagging, then we take it for what it is. But the figures that I present are inarguable.

    To bring inter-racial marriage or Jim Crow into this is just stupid.

  • July 20, 2006 at 3:38 am
    Scott Romoser says:
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    Violent crime: up 560%, bastardy: up 419%, divorce: 400%, teenage suicides: up 200%.

    Watching you make a fool of yourself: PRICELESS!

  • July 20, 2006 at 3:38 am
    SEPARATE Church & State says:
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    Thank you, \”Much Ado…\” – very well put.

    Pat – your slip is showing. Seriously, are you at work today? Getting paid for the time you\’re spending posting this crap?
    I am really glad that I don\’t encounter such narrow-minded people as yourself in my day-to-day life. You make me sad.

  • July 20, 2006 at 4:33 am
    Just Tired says:
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    To: Separate church & state

    Pat must not be the only one not at work today, with time on his/her hands to post \”crap\”…..

    Whoever Pat is, he or she has endured a lot of offensive rhetoric today in return for simply stating opinions. And besides, why is it \”okay\” to push one viewpoint and not another? I must ask myself why it seems that Christian-bashing has become a popular sport these days. Something to ponder….after work.

  • July 21, 2006 at 8:16 am
    Pat says:
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    If everyone were as foolish as me there would be no AIDS. I think that AIDS is a tragedy – an entirely avoidable one – but you laugh about the decline of our culture into a swamp of death and disease. If you are normal and I\’m the fool, so be it. Dope.

  • July 24, 2006 at 2:04 am
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    Maybe this is a dumb question, but if she was getting chemotherapy wouldn\’t that affect (and kill the cancer in) her entire body? So they figured the cancer to be in a different location. They were still treating cancer. And I agree – how can the partner sue for loss of consortium when consortium was already lost due to this disease (and it\’s current and future treatments) before they married? Anyway. As far as all the opinions flying off the deep end about religion, our country, our morals – you folks really don\’t have enough to do. We are all opinionated, hopefully, but posting it here? How irrelevant.

  • July 25, 2006 at 9:44 am
    I Wish says:
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    The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP),2 the American Academy of Family Physicians,3 the Child Welfare League of America,4 the National Association of Social Workers,5 and the American Psychological Association6 recognize that gay and lesbian parents are just as good as heterosexual parents, and that children thrive in gay- and lesbian-headed families. Per the Gay and Lesbian Task Force Website

    I wish I had been adopted by a loving gay couple rather than the two evil heterosexual child abusers I ended up with.

  • January 29, 2007 at 10:20 am
    Realist says:
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    Homosexuality reminds me of a Travelocity commercial I saw in which a gnome attempts to plug an American electrical device into a European electrical outlet. Obviously it doesn\’t work. Homosexual behavior is nothing more than a sexual preference. Someone may be born with it or not but it is what it is, a sexual preference. I don\’t believe it has anything to do with parenting.

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    They need a moderator or report abuse button here…too much garbage.

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