So, if it isn\’t \”mandatory\” to wear a seat belt in NH, and someone were injured in an accident shouldn’t the law have a caveat that reads:
“If an “adult” chooses not to wear a seat belt and is injured in an \”accident,\” an insurance carrier has the right to \”choose\” not to pay for injuries arising out of such an incident as the injuries were not caused by an \”accident,\” but rather a conscious decision…Hospitals should have the \”choice\” to provide low budget services to keep their costs down – Moreover, for those \”killed\” in the crash — their premiums are fully earned and not subject to cancellation. Problem solved…
Let them live free or die… just don\’t make the rest of us pay for their ignorance or arrogance – I\’m not sure which it is at this point.
Not only do people drive without seat belts they also drive uninsured because auto insurance is not mandatory in NH! If you don\’t have collision and UM and you get hit by one of them you are lucky to collect $15 per month in restitution based on court ordered payment plans! Personally I don\’t think we should pay for injuries to any adult who does not use a seat belt or motorcycle helmet. If they die…fine… if they are injured…well they can just pay their own bills.
It amazes me that people still need a law to tell them to wear a seat belt. How often do you hear a news report give a count of how many accident victims survived because they were wearing a seat belt? All you ever hear is \”the victim died, he/she was not wearing a seat belt.\” C\’mon people, wake up!
It amazes me that people think making a law to govern, mandate, and protect everyone from everything and control every aspect of life is necessary. Stop passing stupid laws that infringe on everyone\’s rights!
You\’re an adult, if you\’re too stupid to know that smoking is bad for you then smoke up. If I own a business and don\’t want your cigarette smelling money in my establishment I\’ll ban smoking. If you\’re too stupid to know wearing a seatbelt (or helmet) may save your life then sign up for your Darwin Award.
But, if your choices directly result in your injury you don\’t sue… you deal.
what if im wearing my seat belt because the law says to and i get into an accident and the seat belt causes me harm internal bleeding crushed vertibre something like that which could happen just like me getting into an accident could happen do i have the right to sue the state for damages because they forced me to wear a device that caused me harm what if i wasnt wearing my seat belt and i didnt get hurt do i stilled get a ticket because i didnt wear my seat belt even though i lived and walked away from the crash would i be punished for living
Why should I be told what to do. I\’m a tax paying adult. I have the choice to refuse a life saving surgery because by law i am allowed to make my own choices regarding my health. So why should I be forced to wear this \”life saving\” device that may or may not help me in an accident. I am not saying a selt belt doesnt help but in some causes it can hurt you. So the state may be making you wear a selt belt that could cause you serious harm. the state shouldnt make choices for you. I can make them myself. just cause you dont wear your seat belt doesnt mean your driving up cost. I know people that have insurance and wear there seat belt and get into little fender benders wear the paint barely gets scuffed and they take an ambulance to the hospital and get there car towed to the shop have every cop and fireman in town on scene and go to rehab for no reason at all. They are the ones that drive up cost. It shouldnt be about money its about freedom the same freedom that makes us Americans.
You are absolutely right! To hell with people telling me what to do!!! Stop signs? Screw \’em! I\’m an adult and can decide for myself when to stop and when not to. Speed limits? Those are for wimps! If you can\’t safely drive 55 in a residential area, that\’s your problem, not mine. And if you do live in that residential area where I drive 55, and you don\’t like it, move! Street signals? How dare you tell me to stop and let other people go??? I am so tired of my personal freedoms being taken away, I say let anarchy reign!!! Hell, why stop there?!?! Why pay taxes? I earned that money, it\’s mine, why should I give it to the government?
Yeah, I can really see how making you wear a seatbelt really is taking away your personal freedoms.
by driving on the wrong side of the road and blowing red lights and doing anything like that would be dangerous and making it dangerous for everyone else but not wearing your seat belt doesnt effect anyone but me. that just goes to the attitude that if you dont wear your seat belt means your scum and a horrible person. and for anyone who thinks if you get into an accident without a selt belt on makes it more likely to lose control of a vehicle they have never been in an accident
Tell me how does a selt belt law help because if it doesnt help why should we have it and dont say it can save your life because it can kill you to. you dont make laws because of chance so if you have a good reason a really good reason let me know
I agree with you Anthony. I am going to start driving on the \”wrong\” side of the road for now on. I am going to run every red light, why stop as that infringes on MY personal rights. I am going to drive naked, talk on my phone, not use my seat belt, drive on the wrong side of the road, run a red light and hit a pedestrian and then say a big F you to law enforcement and tell the gov\’t to leave me and my personal freedoms alone.
NH statistics from 2003 (most recent I found) indicated that there were 91 fatalities and 7 out of 10 occupants killed did not have seat belts on. My sister\’s car slid on black ice, rolled over twice then landed on the roof in a ditch. She was suspended upside down and ultimately had internal bruising that took almost one year to heal….but she was and is alive.. that is exactly what the seat belt was meant to do. There are also numerous incidents of unbelted drivers being the cause of their kid\’s death by crushing them when they are ejected from the driver\’s seat and cannot control what happens to them.. please buckle up because it could be someone else\’s life…we don\’t care if you die but we don\’t want to pay for long term medical care for you and welfare for your family.
touchy, touchy, touchy…. how many other states don\’t require seat belts? I don\’t think there are any other states that don\’t require seat belts…so NH people do use them when they travel! NH folks just like to let others think they are a bunch of perfect hicks…..
My concern is that we have a large number of laws jammed down our throats because they are in our best interest, yet there is very little statistical evidence of this.
I don\’t understand why forcing a motorist to wear a seatbelt is desirable if there is no evidence that it cuts down costs.
Problem with stats is people make them up so they can make there point plus people lie when they get into accidents they say they were wearing there selt belt to look good in case they get sued. so you cant go by police reports and nurses in hospitals only see the people who get hurt but never talk about the ones who get hurt that were wearing selt belts. I work with sales and even if you dont make up stats you only show people the ones you wont them to see and act like the other ones dont exist. here are some true stats I have been in 8 accidents in my life none of which were my fault I never wear my selt belt and i was only hurt once (concusion, bruising) when I got hit from the left side and the door crushed in i was pushed from the drivers seat into the passenger seat good thing because the car that hit me was sitting on the drivers seat so 1 out of 8 accidents i got hurt but it could have been 1 out of 8 killed me
The primary enforcement of seatbelt laws is a deprivation of liberty and anybody who fails to see that I do not understand at all. If you see a policeman not wearing his seatbelt, there\’s nothing you can do. If they see you not wearing yours in my state, even for a second, they pull you over, write you a ticket, take your license, (no signature for bond), and send you on your way with the stern warning to \”click it\” or ticket. Normally law enforcements acts out of its office to protect society. They stop somebody when the are putting others at risk by speeding or committing a moving violation. I hope New Hampshire sticks to its guns. Believe me, in the land of liberty, you don\’t want road blocks enforcing seatbelt laws at all hours. Just think Iraq, you too can have the benefits of a free society like roadblocks to force you to wear your seatbelt. It is the sign of a police state, make no mistake.
NH residents are obligated to buckle up when they travel outside of NH… every other state has a seat belt law. NH residents also don\’t buy insurance then they drive in other states, cause accidents, then go home leaving unpaid medical bills and damaged cars! You could be their next victim and the NH courts do not help you get reimbursed… so much for live free or die… you can die and they don\’t pay.. so much for everyone having freedom… oh, just NH folks are supposed to Live Free or Die..
So, if it isn\’t \”mandatory\” to wear a seat belt in NH, and someone were injured in an accident shouldn’t the law have a caveat that reads:
“If an “adult” chooses not to wear a seat belt and is injured in an \”accident,\” an insurance carrier has the right to \”choose\” not to pay for injuries arising out of such an incident as the injuries were not caused by an \”accident,\” but rather a conscious decision…Hospitals should have the \”choice\” to provide low budget services to keep their costs down – Moreover, for those \”killed\” in the crash — their premiums are fully earned and not subject to cancellation. Problem solved…
Let them live free or die… just don\’t make the rest of us pay for their ignorance or arrogance – I\’m not sure which it is at this point.
It\’s a simple mathematical excercise.
NH doesn\’t have a mandatory seatbelt law, and their usage is lower than other states.
Does that translate into higher claims and more disability payments?
If so, then the law makes sense.
If you can\’t prove that, it\’s just totalitarianism.
Not only do people drive without seat belts they also drive uninsured because auto insurance is not mandatory in NH! If you don\’t have collision and UM and you get hit by one of them you are lucky to collect $15 per month in restitution based on court ordered payment plans! Personally I don\’t think we should pay for injuries to any adult who does not use a seat belt or motorcycle helmet. If they die…fine… if they are injured…well they can just pay their own bills.
It amazes me that people still need a law to tell them to wear a seat belt. How often do you hear a news report give a count of how many accident victims survived because they were wearing a seat belt? All you ever hear is \”the victim died, he/she was not wearing a seat belt.\” C\’mon people, wake up!
It amazes me that people think making a law to govern, mandate, and protect everyone from everything and control every aspect of life is necessary. Stop passing stupid laws that infringe on everyone\’s rights!
You\’re an adult, if you\’re too stupid to know that smoking is bad for you then smoke up. If I own a business and don\’t want your cigarette smelling money in my establishment I\’ll ban smoking. If you\’re too stupid to know wearing a seatbelt (or helmet) may save your life then sign up for your Darwin Award.
But, if your choices directly result in your injury you don\’t sue… you deal.
what if im wearing my seat belt because the law says to and i get into an accident and the seat belt causes me harm internal bleeding crushed vertibre something like that which could happen just like me getting into an accident could happen do i have the right to sue the state for damages because they forced me to wear a device that caused me harm what if i wasnt wearing my seat belt and i didnt get hurt do i stilled get a ticket because i didnt wear my seat belt even though i lived and walked away from the crash would i be punished for living
Why should I be told what to do. I\’m a tax paying adult. I have the choice to refuse a life saving surgery because by law i am allowed to make my own choices regarding my health. So why should I be forced to wear this \”life saving\” device that may or may not help me in an accident. I am not saying a selt belt doesnt help but in some causes it can hurt you. So the state may be making you wear a selt belt that could cause you serious harm. the state shouldnt make choices for you. I can make them myself. just cause you dont wear your seat belt doesnt mean your driving up cost. I know people that have insurance and wear there seat belt and get into little fender benders wear the paint barely gets scuffed and they take an ambulance to the hospital and get there car towed to the shop have every cop and fireman in town on scene and go to rehab for no reason at all. They are the ones that drive up cost. It shouldnt be about money its about freedom the same freedom that makes us Americans.
You are absolutely right! To hell with people telling me what to do!!! Stop signs? Screw \’em! I\’m an adult and can decide for myself when to stop and when not to. Speed limits? Those are for wimps! If you can\’t safely drive 55 in a residential area, that\’s your problem, not mine. And if you do live in that residential area where I drive 55, and you don\’t like it, move! Street signals? How dare you tell me to stop and let other people go??? I am so tired of my personal freedoms being taken away, I say let anarchy reign!!! Hell, why stop there?!?! Why pay taxes? I earned that money, it\’s mine, why should I give it to the government?
Yeah, I can really see how making you wear a seatbelt really is taking away your personal freedoms.
by driving on the wrong side of the road and blowing red lights and doing anything like that would be dangerous and making it dangerous for everyone else but not wearing your seat belt doesnt effect anyone but me. that just goes to the attitude that if you dont wear your seat belt means your scum and a horrible person. and for anyone who thinks if you get into an accident without a selt belt on makes it more likely to lose control of a vehicle they have never been in an accident
Tell me how does a selt belt law help because if it doesnt help why should we have it and dont say it can save your life because it can kill you to. you dont make laws because of chance so if you have a good reason a really good reason let me know
no, the gov\’t has immunity from frivilous lawsuits like you mentioned.
I agree with you Anthony. I am going to start driving on the \”wrong\” side of the road for now on. I am going to run every red light, why stop as that infringes on MY personal rights. I am going to drive naked, talk on my phone, not use my seat belt, drive on the wrong side of the road, run a red light and hit a pedestrian and then say a big F you to law enforcement and tell the gov\’t to leave me and my personal freedoms alone.
NH statistics from 2003 (most recent I found) indicated that there were 91 fatalities and 7 out of 10 occupants killed did not have seat belts on. My sister\’s car slid on black ice, rolled over twice then landed on the roof in a ditch. She was suspended upside down and ultimately had internal bruising that took almost one year to heal….but she was and is alive.. that is exactly what the seat belt was meant to do. There are also numerous incidents of unbelted drivers being the cause of their kid\’s death by crushing them when they are ejected from the driver\’s seat and cannot control what happens to them.. please buckle up because it could be someone else\’s life…we don\’t care if you die but we don\’t want to pay for long term medical care for you and welfare for your family.
I didn\’t ask for how many unbelted occupants die.
I didn\’t ask for anecdotal evidence from your personal life.
I didn\’t ask for your opinion on seatbelt use and its costs.
I asked for a statistical analysis comparing states without seatbelt laws to states with seatbelt laws and the resulting personal injury claims.
Learn to read, learn to spell, learn to punctuate.
touchy, touchy, touchy…. how many other states don\’t require seat belts? I don\’t think there are any other states that don\’t require seat belts…so NH people do use them when they travel! NH folks just like to let others think they are a bunch of perfect hicks…..
I apologize for appearing touchy.
My concern is that we have a large number of laws jammed down our throats because they are in our best interest, yet there is very little statistical evidence of this.
I don\’t understand why forcing a motorist to wear a seatbelt is desirable if there is no evidence that it cuts down costs.
Problem with stats is people make them up so they can make there point plus people lie when they get into accidents they say they were wearing there selt belt to look good in case they get sued. so you cant go by police reports and nurses in hospitals only see the people who get hurt but never talk about the ones who get hurt that were wearing selt belts. I work with sales and even if you dont make up stats you only show people the ones you wont them to see and act like the other ones dont exist. here are some true stats I have been in 8 accidents in my life none of which were my fault I never wear my selt belt and i was only hurt once (concusion, bruising) when I got hit from the left side and the door crushed in i was pushed from the drivers seat into the passenger seat good thing because the car that hit me was sitting on the drivers seat so 1 out of 8 accidents i got hurt but it could have been 1 out of 8 killed me
Is there statistical proof that NH has higher injury claims from lower seat belt use?
Until someone answers that question all the hyperbole about running stop signs is pointless chest-beating.
If you can\’t prove that non-wearers impact anyone but themselves, shut up.
The primary enforcement of seatbelt laws is a deprivation of liberty and anybody who fails to see that I do not understand at all. If you see a policeman not wearing his seatbelt, there\’s nothing you can do. If they see you not wearing yours in my state, even for a second, they pull you over, write you a ticket, take your license, (no signature for bond), and send you on your way with the stern warning to \”click it\” or ticket. Normally law enforcements acts out of its office to protect society. They stop somebody when the are putting others at risk by speeding or committing a moving violation. I hope New Hampshire sticks to its guns. Believe me, in the land of liberty, you don\’t want road blocks enforcing seatbelt laws at all hours. Just think Iraq, you too can have the benefits of a free society like roadblocks to force you to wear your seatbelt. It is the sign of a police state, make no mistake.
NH residents are obligated to buckle up when they travel outside of NH… every other state has a seat belt law. NH residents also don\’t buy insurance then they drive in other states, cause accidents, then go home leaving unpaid medical bills and damaged cars! You could be their next victim and the NH courts do not help you get reimbursed… so much for live free or die… you can die and they don\’t pay.. so much for everyone having freedom… oh, just NH folks are supposed to Live Free or Die..