This is a great idea and all but are they also designed to prevent you from getting lung cancer? The new cigarettes may stop you from setting your house on fire but you will still die from cancer, why bother? The only solution is to stop making them altogether, they’re an extremely nasty habit and terrible health risk.
friends in New Hampshire, Vermont and New York. Without their brilliance we would all be doomed to…..enjoy ourselves as we see fit. Could you next turn your attention to what we eat? Oh, you already did that too.
I don’t smoke, so I don’t know if the cost of cigarettes has increased because some brands are now fire safe, or if they taste different. But if the “experience” nor cost has changed, why the complaining?
The “live free or die” tree huggers in NH are fooling and deluding themselves. Cigarettes do not cause fires, fatal or otherwise. Gross human stupidity is the proximate cause. Unfortunately, you can’t engineer stupidity out of the human being so we have to chase our tails trying to protect idiots from themselves.
Disgusting habit aside, this law isn’t meant to prevent people from smoking. Only make the risk of accidental fire less. So I don’t think your rant belongs here.
Really? And who appointed you king? Anytime blame/causation is wrongly assigned, I think it’s fair game to comment. What’s next? Candles that extinguish themselves? The cost to society of tolerating irresponsible and negligent behavior is mind boggling. Hopefully the only ones who will pay for this latest “price of non-conformance” will be the smokers.
in socialist Vermont, New Hampshire, or New York they can already choose them. But now they don’t have a choice, do they?
Do you think smokers, or the users of the product now banned, were consulted about their preference? I suspect this expensive legislation was introduced by wannabe do-gooders who, despite a lot of long hard thought, just couldnt come up with any reason not to!!!!! Again, maybe if they consulted the users they might have a few reasons. Look out – lets hope they don’t make an association with alcohol consumption and house fires. Those states could then be not only a haven for socialist do-gooders, they could be dry.
I think it’s time to leave smokers alone. So long as they don’t infringe on the rights of others, they are doing something that is legal and socially acceptable. Every smoker deserves the right to make their own decisions, including running the risk of incinerating themself by careless smoking or getting lung cancer.
I have to wear a seatbelt! Wah!! I have to wear a helmet! Wah!! I can’t use a cell phone while driving! Wah!! I can’t drink and drive! Wah!!! I have to buy self-extinguishing cigarettes! WAH!!!
You people and your “My personal freedoms are being taken away” mantra need to ask, are your personal freedoms REALLY being taken away???? When the government starts deciding how many kids you can have and what kind of religion to follow, maybe then you should start worrying! Until then, give it a rest! If things are so bad, run for office so you can have life exactly as you want it.
tell us how many kids to have and what religion to follow it may be too late? Is
there something wrong with personal freedom? I suspect that to date none of your personal freedoms have been affected or you may feel differently. Furthermore, what is the cost? And Hank, there will be a cost. But understanding that there is a cost implies a level of sophistication along with a timeline that is undoubtably too complex for the knee- jerk do-gooders of the big three (ny,nh,vt).
Gill,
You are right, none of my MAJOR personal freedoms have been affected, so it is easy for me to get up on the soap box and preach. But I think there are bigger fish to fry when it comes to complaining about losing your freedoms such as having no choice in the types of cigarettes to buy.
You are all over analyzing the situation. First off, is the smoking activity effected in any way by the change in design, if so, maybe you have a slight argument. Otherwise there is no argument here. Did you complain when they started putting child proof lids on medicine bottles? Some things have nothing to do w/ personal freedom. Some things have to do w/ common sense.
Good line of thinking R. U. It seems like people will jump on any issue to compain. I can’t beleive how many comments have been made on such a non issue. Must be some offices are less busy writing business than others.
Evidently, because I don’t smoke, they are not preferred by smokers. Of all the things that kill people, do you really think housefires from cigarettes are even in the top ten? Why not ban obesity? Is mandatory liposuction next? And I thought that giant sucking sound was all our jobs going South (remember that last great giveaway by the do-gooders?)
C’mon, Gill, let’s be serious. I don’t become overweight when I work next to an obese person. However, I can get lung cancer when working next to a smoker. My apartment isn’t gonna fall down when an obese person lives in the apartment next door. However, if the smoker next door isn’t responsible, the building could burn down. Your example isn’t a good one to use.
But no one has answered my questions. Are the self extinguishing cigarettes different from non extinguishing? Other than taking away my personal freedom of being able to choose which cigarettes to purchase (which is along the same lines as taking away my freedom of religion, speech, right to vote…), do they taste different or cost more?
Good point, ruserious!! I am gonna contact my congressman and demand we repeal all mandatory helmet laws for children! C’mon, people, who’s with me!!!
including I think a cigarette that didn’t
burn but delivered nicotine anyway, smokers didnt like it. There is more going on with smokers than just nicotine delivery. Psychological as well as physiological. The experience for some is social, part of a routine, and urges can be triggered by different things for different people. My point is that if someone wants to smoke, drink, eat, live in a tent or whatever, we better be damn sure before we tell them they can’t be free to live the way they want if they are not hurting anyone else. And in this day and age, when in my state one can’t smoke ANYWHERE indoors, including private clubs (including cigar clubs), I think it is safe to say no one has to work next to a smoker or even be around smokers if they don’t want to be. To guise this law as something to prevent housefires is disingenuous. How many house fires did New York have last year from cigarettes that killed someone besides the smoker?
Again, did it make the top ten reasons New Yorkers died last year? If not, why are they not addressing the more important issues that result in New Yorkers demise?
How many New Yorkers smoke? Isn’t the national average about 20-25% of Americans? How many New York smokers will be affected? 100%. How many social programs are paid for with tobacco dollars? If some New Yorkers quit, and others buy the kind of cigarette they want to smoke from Canada or other states, does that affect any social programs in New York because of reduced tobacco tax revenue? We call these sorts of things ‘unintended consequences’.
It may be a non-issue for you, Vin. Too bad you can’t find empathy for others who make different choices than you.
This is only happening because of all the “yuppies” that have nothing better to do but think of new things to complain about. Every year more and more of people’s rights and freedoms are being taken away. Good Job! And no I am not a smoker!
ever since they put this additive in the cigaretts, I have smoked more than usual, hacked up unusual amounts of phlem, and got headaches, also the taste is gross, Does anyone know the name of this ingredient, Is it safe what are the side affects. and and before i forget they are saying cigaretts are the number one cause of house and industrial fires, I DONT THINK SO– Some irresponsible idiot had to light the frigin thing, PEOPLE are RESPONSIBLE not the cigarette, I have recently started rolling my own with a regulation cigarette loader, when you compare the regulation cig to one from a pack there is a size difference, so they basically are givin less tobacco and now some weird additive, go figure
Another problem that i have found is that when smoking and driving the cherry sometimes falls off when you are inhaling in an attempt to keep the cigarette going. In my opinion this will cause trafic accidents. Trafic accidents account for many more deaths then any caused by cigarette induced fires. It seems to me that this needs to be studdied as well.
This is a great idea and all but are they also designed to prevent you from getting lung cancer? The new cigarettes may stop you from setting your house on fire but you will still die from cancer, why bother? The only solution is to stop making them altogether, they’re an extremely nasty habit and terrible health risk.
friends in New Hampshire, Vermont and New York. Without their brilliance we would all be doomed to…..enjoy ourselves as we see fit. Could you next turn your attention to what we eat? Oh, you already did that too.
I don’t smoke, so I don’t know if the cost of cigarettes has increased because some brands are now fire safe, or if they taste different. But if the “experience” nor cost has changed, why the complaining?
The “live free or die” tree huggers in NH are fooling and deluding themselves. Cigarettes do not cause fires, fatal or otherwise. Gross human stupidity is the proximate cause. Unfortunately, you can’t engineer stupidity out of the human being so we have to chase our tails trying to protect idiots from themselves.
Disgusting habit aside, this law isn’t meant to prevent people from smoking. Only make the risk of accidental fire less. So I don’t think your rant belongs here.
Really? And who appointed you king? Anytime blame/causation is wrongly assigned, I think it’s fair game to comment. What’s next? Candles that extinguish themselves? The cost to society of tolerating irresponsible and negligent behavior is mind boggling. Hopefully the only ones who will pay for this latest “price of non-conformance” will be the smokers.
in socialist Vermont, New Hampshire, or New York they can already choose them. But now they don’t have a choice, do they?
Do you think smokers, or the users of the product now banned, were consulted about their preference? I suspect this expensive legislation was introduced by wannabe do-gooders who, despite a lot of long hard thought, just couldnt come up with any reason not to!!!!! Again, maybe if they consulted the users they might have a few reasons. Look out – lets hope they don’t make an association with alcohol consumption and house fires. Those states could then be not only a haven for socialist do-gooders, they could be dry.
I think it’s time to leave smokers alone. So long as they don’t infringe on the rights of others, they are doing something that is legal and socially acceptable. Every smoker deserves the right to make their own decisions, including running the risk of incinerating themself by careless smoking or getting lung cancer.
I have to wear a seatbelt! Wah!! I have to wear a helmet! Wah!! I can’t use a cell phone while driving! Wah!! I can’t drink and drive! Wah!!! I have to buy self-extinguishing cigarettes! WAH!!!
You people and your “My personal freedoms are being taken away” mantra need to ask, are your personal freedoms REALLY being taken away???? When the government starts deciding how many kids you can have and what kind of religion to follow, maybe then you should start worrying! Until then, give it a rest! If things are so bad, run for office so you can have life exactly as you want it.
Melissa,
Problem is, they aren’t running the risk of incinerating only themselves or their property.
Got a point there Bobby.
tell us how many kids to have and what religion to follow it may be too late? Is
there something wrong with personal freedom? I suspect that to date none of your personal freedoms have been affected or you may feel differently. Furthermore, what is the cost? And Hank, there will be a cost. But understanding that there is a cost implies a level of sophistication along with a timeline that is undoubtably too complex for the knee- jerk do-gooders of the big three (ny,nh,vt).
Gill,
You are right, none of my MAJOR personal freedoms have been affected, so it is easy for me to get up on the soap box and preach. But I think there are bigger fish to fry when it comes to complaining about losing your freedoms such as having no choice in the types of cigarettes to buy.
Spoken like a non-smoker.
You are all over analyzing the situation. First off, is the smoking activity effected in any way by the change in design, if so, maybe you have a slight argument. Otherwise there is no argument here. Did you complain when they started putting child proof lids on medicine bottles? Some things have nothing to do w/ personal freedom. Some things have to do w/ common sense.
Good line of thinking R. U. It seems like people will jump on any issue to compain. I can’t beleive how many comments have been made on such a non issue. Must be some offices are less busy writing business than others.
Evidently, because I don’t smoke, they are not preferred by smokers. Of all the things that kill people, do you really think housefires from cigarettes are even in the top ten? Why not ban obesity? Is mandatory liposuction next? And I thought that giant sucking sound was all our jobs going South (remember that last great giveaway by the do-gooders?)
C’mon, Gill, let’s be serious. I don’t become overweight when I work next to an obese person. However, I can get lung cancer when working next to a smoker. My apartment isn’t gonna fall down when an obese person lives in the apartment next door. However, if the smoker next door isn’t responsible, the building could burn down. Your example isn’t a good one to use.
But no one has answered my questions. Are the self extinguishing cigarettes different from non extinguishing? Other than taking away my personal freedom of being able to choose which cigarettes to purchase (which is along the same lines as taking away my freedom of religion, speech, right to vote…), do they taste different or cost more?
Good point, ruserious!! I am gonna contact my congressman and demand we repeal all mandatory helmet laws for children! C’mon, people, who’s with me!!!
including I think a cigarette that didn’t
burn but delivered nicotine anyway, smokers didnt like it. There is more going on with smokers than just nicotine delivery. Psychological as well as physiological. The experience for some is social, part of a routine, and urges can be triggered by different things for different people. My point is that if someone wants to smoke, drink, eat, live in a tent or whatever, we better be damn sure before we tell them they can’t be free to live the way they want if they are not hurting anyone else. And in this day and age, when in my state one can’t smoke ANYWHERE indoors, including private clubs (including cigar clubs), I think it is safe to say no one has to work next to a smoker or even be around smokers if they don’t want to be. To guise this law as something to prevent housefires is disingenuous. How many house fires did New York have last year from cigarettes that killed someone besides the smoker?
Again, did it make the top ten reasons New Yorkers died last year? If not, why are they not addressing the more important issues that result in New Yorkers demise?
How many New Yorkers smoke? Isn’t the national average about 20-25% of Americans? How many New York smokers will be affected? 100%. How many social programs are paid for with tobacco dollars? If some New Yorkers quit, and others buy the kind of cigarette they want to smoke from Canada or other states, does that affect any social programs in New York because of reduced tobacco tax revenue? We call these sorts of things ‘unintended consequences’.
It may be a non-issue for you, Vin. Too bad you can’t find empathy for others who make different choices than you.
This is only happening because of all the “yuppies” that have nothing better to do but think of new things to complain about. Every year more and more of people’s rights and freedoms are being taken away. Good Job! And no I am not a smoker!
Thought we lived a live free or die state! HA!!!!!
ever since they put this additive in the cigaretts, I have smoked more than usual, hacked up unusual amounts of phlem, and got headaches, also the taste is gross, Does anyone know the name of this ingredient, Is it safe what are the side affects. and and before i forget they are saying cigaretts are the number one cause of house and industrial fires, I DONT THINK SO– Some irresponsible idiot had to light the frigin thing, PEOPLE are RESPONSIBLE not the cigarette, I have recently started rolling my own with a regulation cigarette loader, when you compare the regulation cig to one from a pack there is a size difference, so they basically are givin less tobacco and now some weird additive, go figure
Another problem that i have found is that when smoking and driving the cherry sometimes falls off when you are inhaling in an attempt to keep the cigarette going. In my opinion this will cause trafic accidents. Trafic accidents account for many more deaths then any caused by cigarette induced fires. It seems to me that this needs to be studdied as well.