I just read an article regarding a Pakistani Investment banker for Credit Suisse in New York who was convicted of feeding insider information to a financial institution in Pakistan. His co-hort apparently made over $7 million from the information he was fed illegally. Do you know how he was found out? We have this group of people in place here in America called the SEC. They exist to protect and maintain fair and orderly practices of those who invest as well as those investing for us. Maybe this Credit Suisse employee should have requested his case be heard by the same jurors that listened to the Pepco case. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? These two jokers are taking advantage of their employer and because he hired someone to obtain proof, they get awarded $1.4 million???? I’d like to find out how I can go about this myself…sounds lucrative. What is happening to our justice system? Why are the wrong-doers coming out ahead? Every day I hear something else that boggles my mind. Unbelievable!
It’s the judge who gives the jury instructions. If these idiots were being investigated there was probably a reason for it. How one imputes negligence to a non-liability situation is beyond me. This judge is intoxicated on his own flatulence.
To maintain my sanity, i gotta believe that the employer did more than hire private investigators to check whether the workers left the job site early. There must be issues of invasion of privacy, harassment, unfair discrimination, or some other issues that will cause a jury to believe that 2 guys should share $1.4m because their employer had them “under surveillance” from the job site to a certain distance, where one would conclude that they are no longer working.
so, if they left work early, would it not show up on a timesheet? would they not be able to place a camera on the timebell? leaving early did not mean they had to hire someone, they could have done it themselves. but the amount awarded?! um… do we think that every company has lots of money and it’s there to share? think i need to find that monopoly card – SHARE THE WEALTH!
Good point wudchuck but they could have had a position in which they left the office or plant, out on the jobsite, and did not return for the day. Also agree that there is nothing illegal about following someone and there must be more to this story. We’re missing something.
It’s a very short article for me to be passing judgments on what happened in this particular case; I’d have to read the case or briefs.
However, just to inform some people that invasion of privacy can be really serious, I want to mention just a tiny drop on the edge of my experience.
I’m a special ed teacher who received kudos and excellent evaluations for 35 years. Then after I was in an accident and had to start using a wheelchair, everything stopped cold turkey. Nothing in my teaching abilities changed except how to physically access students in the room.
In an effort to get me to quit (which has been accomplished to other minorities in this district) they started following me around. Also, if you follow someone around, you can search for and find every little thing and make issues for things that are not issues with everyone else.
Spies(often times co-workers are ordered to do it) watch when I come, when I leave, check my computer every night, go through my desk drawers, call me at home when I’m sick, open my mail, read my calendar notes. Supervisors are in and out of my room so often daily that the kids actually ask “Are you being fired, Ms K?” Covert observations and evaluation reports (violation of union contract). Overscrutinize my paperwork and demand subjective changes, not done to the other teachers. I spend so much time defending my paperwork now, that I don’t have time to do it. (Used to get kudos for my paperwork, also) I can’t list it all here! There’s much more.
It interferes with my ability to concentrate on teaching. I developed a nervous tic. I startle when the phone rings and the door opens. I developed very high blood pressure for the first time-only at work. I have nightmares. Instead of seeing family and friends or resting, I write rebuttals to defend my work and go to union meetings.
After 4 years of searching and scrutinizing there has been nothing to fire me for. Over half my students are with me due to requests by parents, even coming from other schools.
But these supposedly legal spy and scrutinizing activities have ruined my life.
(And no, I just can’t quit and drive to another district.)
well, i commend you on continuing to teach. my wife teaches kindergartners. the fact that the kids and their parents are on your side, means a lot. but, if all this is still happening, can’t you get some kind of junction, afterall it’s been 4 yrs of them checking you out.
Seems like there must be an enormous amount of information missing from this article. Either that or the judge and the jury were smoking crack! Just goes to show that our justice system, while still the greatest in the world, needs some reform. I can’t fathom how two slackers who are leaving work early and get caught can sue their employer for tracking their work hours.
I just read an article regarding a Pakistani Investment banker for Credit Suisse in New York who was convicted of feeding insider information to a financial institution in Pakistan. His co-hort apparently made over $7 million from the information he was fed illegally. Do you know how he was found out? We have this group of people in place here in America called the SEC. They exist to protect and maintain fair and orderly practices of those who invest as well as those investing for us. Maybe this Credit Suisse employee should have requested his case be heard by the same jurors that listened to the Pepco case. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? These two jokers are taking advantage of their employer and because he hired someone to obtain proof, they get awarded $1.4 million???? I’d like to find out how I can go about this myself…sounds lucrative. What is happening to our justice system? Why are the wrong-doers coming out ahead? Every day I hear something else that boggles my mind. Unbelievable!
Well said, but then did you really expect anything different from the State of Absurdistan?
It’s the judge who gives the jury instructions. If these idiots were being investigated there was probably a reason for it. How one imputes negligence to a non-liability situation is beyond me. This judge is intoxicated on his own flatulence.
To maintain my sanity, i gotta believe that the employer did more than hire private investigators to check whether the workers left the job site early. There must be issues of invasion of privacy, harassment, unfair discrimination, or some other issues that will cause a jury to believe that 2 guys should share $1.4m because their employer had them “under surveillance” from the job site to a certain distance, where one would conclude that they are no longer working.
so, if they left work early, would it not show up on a timesheet? would they not be able to place a camera on the timebell? leaving early did not mean they had to hire someone, they could have done it themselves. but the amount awarded?! um… do we think that every company has lots of money and it’s there to share? think i need to find that monopoly card – SHARE THE WEALTH!
Good point wudchuck but they could have had a position in which they left the office or plant, out on the jobsite, and did not return for the day. Also agree that there is nothing illegal about following someone and there must be more to this story. We’re missing something.
It’s a very short article for me to be passing judgments on what happened in this particular case; I’d have to read the case or briefs.
However, just to inform some people that invasion of privacy can be really serious, I want to mention just a tiny drop on the edge of my experience.
I’m a special ed teacher who received kudos and excellent evaluations for 35 years. Then after I was in an accident and had to start using a wheelchair, everything stopped cold turkey. Nothing in my teaching abilities changed except how to physically access students in the room.
In an effort to get me to quit (which has been accomplished to other minorities in this district) they started following me around. Also, if you follow someone around, you can search for and find every little thing and make issues for things that are not issues with everyone else.
Spies(often times co-workers are ordered to do it) watch when I come, when I leave, check my computer every night, go through my desk drawers, call me at home when I’m sick, open my mail, read my calendar notes. Supervisors are in and out of my room so often daily that the kids actually ask “Are you being fired, Ms K?” Covert observations and evaluation reports (violation of union contract). Overscrutinize my paperwork and demand subjective changes, not done to the other teachers. I spend so much time defending my paperwork now, that I don’t have time to do it. (Used to get kudos for my paperwork, also) I can’t list it all here! There’s much more.
It interferes with my ability to concentrate on teaching. I developed a nervous tic. I startle when the phone rings and the door opens. I developed very high blood pressure for the first time-only at work. I have nightmares. Instead of seeing family and friends or resting, I write rebuttals to defend my work and go to union meetings.
After 4 years of searching and scrutinizing there has been nothing to fire me for. Over half my students are with me due to requests by parents, even coming from other schools.
But these supposedly legal spy and scrutinizing activities have ruined my life.
(And no, I just can’t quit and drive to another district.)
well, i commend you on continuing to teach. my wife teaches kindergartners. the fact that the kids and their parents are on your side, means a lot. but, if all this is still happening, can’t you get some kind of junction, afterall it’s been 4 yrs of them checking you out.
keep up the good work!
Seems like there must be an enormous amount of information missing from this article. Either that or the judge and the jury were smoking crack! Just goes to show that our justice system, while still the greatest in the world, needs some reform. I can’t fathom how two slackers who are leaving work early and get caught can sue their employer for tracking their work hours.