How would stricter ATV laws helped in this situation? It was the negligence of the driver that was the issue. It’s not like this was some youth that didn’t have the ability to drive the ATV.
that the caring individual who was responsible for this accident, had that person been required to take formal training would have behaved entirerly differently.
Just like licensing has totally eliminated the problem of drinking and driving we had before people were required to be licensed.
Let’s face it, you can not legislate character and it is pretty obvious that the person resonsible had none!
What kind of human garbage would leave a person to die and keep on driving an ATV? This is a 23 year old adult with no defense for his actions other than to try and save his own pathetic *** from charges. I hope he was charged with vehicular homicide. This is another case where filing a lawsuit seems to be the natural reaction. While I can’t blame them for their anger at the idiot who essentially murdered their daughter, I am getting increasingly cyncial about filing a suit for damages. Granted, they should be reimbursed for any out-of-pocket expenses. But to profit from the death doesn’t seem right. Everybody claims “you can’t put a price on the loss of my loved one…” but that’s precisely what people do. Like getting a check is going to make everything OK. It doesn’t punish the wrongdoer and it does nothing for the deceased. There needs to be a better resolution. (I’ll bet the bleeding hearts and the personal injury attorneys won’t like this post).
I’d want the facts before I determine if a civil suit is warranted. She was 21, so was she living at home? Maybe helping her parents financially? I know I was, and if I’d been killed at 21, my disabled mother would have lost her house. You can bet she would have sued.
Besides, what are the odds they’ll ever collect anything? Good chance he’ll be in jail for a time, then trying to find a good job with a felony record isn’t easy. Yes, I would take some comfort in knowing that he’d be paying for the rest of his live in some way or other. So at least a judgement would interfere with his life, since if he could leave her there to die he won’t be having fits of remorse anytime soon.
virtually no ATV’s (only one model, and I doubt it was this one) allow for a passenger. they all have obvious stickers warning that no passengers are to be carried.
Honda, Kodiak, Polaris, and Bombadier all make ATV’s for two passengers. These are the larger ones with bigger engines. Since the older ones aren’t that expensive, who knows what he had. I can get a 2003 Polaris “2-UP” model right now for about $3500.
Don’t own one, personally. Just have lots of friends that do.
Helmets dont do really any good in a serious high speed collision. You cant take a brain and ram it against a fixed object and expect to live. The brain just gets sloshed around inside the skull.
Even a skiier going 20 miles an hour with a helmet vs a tree is death.
Thank you LJH for the link. I was trying to find more info but had no luck.
It looks to me like the girl that died was also at fault for her death. I am sure that the court and jurors won’t see it that way and reduce the amount that would be paid to her parents.
how about the girls blood level was .3 nearly 4 times the legal limit of .08 he may have “walked” away but also sustained severe head and brain injuries himself. they may have been run off of a narrow road by a speeding car… he asked her if she wanted the helmet several times and said no so whos the *******? im sure he will have to live with that thought of what he has done for the rest of his life isnt that punishment enough? especially for not being drunk to begin with?????
How would stricter ATV laws helped in this situation? It was the negligence of the driver that was the issue. It’s not like this was some youth that didn’t have the ability to drive the ATV.
Does anyone have more info on this accident?
that the caring individual who was responsible for this accident, had that person been required to take formal training would have behaved entirerly differently.
Just like licensing has totally eliminated the problem of drinking and driving we had before people were required to be licensed.
Let’s face it, you can not legislate character and it is pretty obvious that the person resonsible had none!
What kind of human garbage would leave a person to die and keep on driving an ATV? This is a 23 year old adult with no defense for his actions other than to try and save his own pathetic *** from charges. I hope he was charged with vehicular homicide. This is another case where filing a lawsuit seems to be the natural reaction. While I can’t blame them for their anger at the idiot who essentially murdered their daughter, I am getting increasingly cyncial about filing a suit for damages. Granted, they should be reimbursed for any out-of-pocket expenses. But to profit from the death doesn’t seem right. Everybody claims “you can’t put a price on the loss of my loved one…” but that’s precisely what people do. Like getting a check is going to make everything OK. It doesn’t punish the wrongdoer and it does nothing for the deceased. There needs to be a better resolution. (I’ll bet the bleeding hearts and the personal injury attorneys won’t like this post).
Was she wearing one? It would seem difficult to sustain life-threatening head injuries if she had one on.
I’d want the facts before I determine if a civil suit is warranted. She was 21, so was she living at home? Maybe helping her parents financially? I know I was, and if I’d been killed at 21, my disabled mother would have lost her house. You can bet she would have sued.
Besides, what are the odds they’ll ever collect anything? Good chance he’ll be in jail for a time, then trying to find a good job with a felony record isn’t easy. Yes, I would take some comfort in knowing that he’d be paying for the rest of his live in some way or other. So at least a judgement would interfere with his life, since if he could leave her there to die he won’t be having fits of remorse anytime soon.
Helmets don’t prevent broken necks.
virtually no ATV’s (only one model, and I doubt it was this one) allow for a passenger. they all have obvious stickers warning that no passengers are to be carried.
Honda, Kodiak, Polaris, and Bombadier all make ATV’s for two passengers. These are the larger ones with bigger engines. Since the older ones aren’t that expensive, who knows what he had. I can get a 2003 Polaris “2-UP” model right now for about $3500.
Don’t own one, personally. Just have lots of friends that do.
Helmets dont do really any good in a serious high speed collision. You cant take a brain and ram it against a fixed object and expect to live. The brain just gets sloshed around inside the skull.
Even a skiier going 20 miles an hour with a helmet vs a tree is death.
http://www.projo.com/news/content/ATV_FATAL_07-11-07_4Q6AVO0.339f995.html
Thank you LJH for the link. I was trying to find more info but had no luck.
It looks to me like the girl that died was also at fault for her death. I am sure that the court and jurors won’t see it that way and reduce the amount that would be paid to her parents.
how about the girls blood level was .3 nearly 4 times the legal limit of .08 he may have “walked” away but also sustained severe head and brain injuries himself. they may have been run off of a narrow road by a speeding car… he asked her if she wanted the helmet several times and said no so whos the *******? im sure he will have to live with that thought of what he has done for the rest of his life isnt that punishment enough? especially for not being drunk to begin with?????