New Jersey Sues California Company Over ‘Ghost Guns’

By | March 25, 2019

  • March 25, 2019 at 1:51 pm
    craig cornell says:
    Hot debate. What do you think?
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    Isn’t this Interstate Commerce, and the sole province of the Federal Government? By golly, yes it is, but don’t let established law stop libs.

    Once we get rid of the Electoral College, make the Senate elections proportional elections like the House, and pack the Supreme Court with some more liberals (oops, I mean judges), then we can get 16 year olds to vote for more free stuff. After that, who would recognize American anyway?

    How about conservative states suing pot growers in Blue States for “ghost sales”? Sounds about right.

    • March 25, 2019 at 3:01 pm
      Agent says:
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      Makes sense to me craig. I am surprised there are still companies in California still in this business. Are they doing this to arm the National Guard?

    • March 25, 2019 at 4:25 pm
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      I agree and why would the wise folks in NJ let that pesky second amendment get in the way. What next serial numbers on kitchen knifes?

  • March 25, 2019 at 11:17 pm
    David says:
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    This article fails to mention that according to the federal government and the ATF, the items this company is shipping are not firearms. The are plain pieces of metal that require significant machining to become firearms.
    They are just slightly closer to a finished firearm then a solid block of metal (and legally, no different). Is New Jersey going to ban blocks of metal next?

  • March 27, 2019 at 1:48 pm
    mrbob says:
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    I find all the down votes interesting, in that there is no rebuttal to the positions listed. I guess the points of law mentioned are too strong for the anti gun groups to argue.

  • March 27, 2019 at 3:05 pm
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    I am admittedly no expert, but in order to make the parts an actual weapon don’t you need the lower receiver? It was my understanding (and again I am no expert) that all lower receivers are given serial numbers and you must go through a background check prior to purchasing it (even though on its own it is nothing more than an expensive paperweight). Therefore, how would ordering the parts other than the lower receiver be building a gun with no serial number? And this is a totally honest question as my curiosity has been sparked.

    • March 29, 2019 at 1:41 pm
      mrbob says:
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      What the State is attempting to stop is the sale of what are referred to as 80% lowers. These are blanks of aluminum that are partially machined and then the purchaser will finish the machining using gigs and a drill press. These lowers are not serialized as when sold they are not functional. Only after the final machining do they become a functional receiver. As the current federal laws are written anyone with the tools and knowledge can build their own firearm from scratch for their own use. Transfer of these lowers are strictly prohibited even to a family member. Once the individual who made the weapon no longer wants it for any reason, even death, it would have to be destroyed.

      The gun grabbers are all in a tizzy about ghost guns but they are legal and although they may have been used in the commission of a crime I have yet to ever hear of this being the case. What is more common is the criminal filing off the legitimate serial number.

      • March 29, 2019 at 2:49 pm
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        mrbob……thank you for the additional information! That does make sense and I would imagine a common criminal would not go to the expense or trouble of having the equipment and making their own fire arm when they can easily steal one or buy one off the street and file off the serial number. I could be wrong (it is known to happen) but it seems like this law is yet another attempt at gun control on law abiding citizens that are following the current laws already, so basically not really accomplishing anything other than making themselves feel like they are doing something to stop gun violence.

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