Viewpoint: Why Medical Marijuana Laws Are Not a Gateway to Adult Use Legislation

By William F. McDevitt | June 24, 2019

  • June 24, 2019 at 11:55 am
    Craig Cornell says:
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    Correcting the title: “Why Medical Marijuana Laws are NO LONGER a Gateway to Adult Use Legislation”. Because we all know they used to be the gateway: first Medi-Pot, then Recre-Pot.

    They are no longer a gateway because people are wising up about the dangers of Pot for Fun; the lies don’t work anymore. Kids – lots of kids – are getting hurt in states that legalized recreational pot, despite the lie that legal Pot for Fun would keep kids away from pot (a hilariously obvious lie if yo think about it). The Black Market is not getting smaller as promised by the Pot Fans. THC caused psychosis, loss of IQ and mental illness can no longer be hidden from the public.

    Because traffic deaths in Recre-Pot states are up about 30% since legalization, despite the ludicrous-on-the-face lie that traffic deaths would go down when Pot for Fun was legalized.

    And even Democrats can’t push past all of those truths anymore to continue to legalize Recreational Pot. Even for more tax money.

    • June 25, 2019 at 12:50 pm
      Agent says:
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      Craig, why have we seen all these states passing Medi-Pot and then go right into Recre-Pot?

  • June 24, 2019 at 12:32 pm
    Captain Planet says:
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    It’s an intoxicant – of course there are consequences. Why do you act like people don’t know this already? Nothing has been hidden from the public. Most feel that this is an intoxicant that can be left to adults to decide whether or not they want to partake and, if they do, they shouldn’t be punished should they use it responsibly. It isn’t anymore complicated than that.

    • June 24, 2019 at 12:52 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      And the reports from the Washington Post and the NY Times about the major damage to children in states that legalized? You think that is fair price to pay for “leaving it to adults”.

      Along with the traffic deaths? The increase in mental illness, including schizophrenia? You knew all this would happen and you approved of it? How compassionate. Just so some adults can get high.

      • June 24, 2019 at 1:28 pm
        Helen Lovejoy says:
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        “Won’t somebody PLEASE think of the children!”

        • June 24, 2019 at 8:40 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          Maybe your neighbor’s kid will suffer loss of IQ from pot. After all, the NY Times reports are pretty clear that is common now in Colorado. Or maybe permanent mental illness will wipe out your neighbor’s kid, something very possible according to the AMA. Maybe your neighbor’s kid will die in a car crash from some fool high on THC.

          Or maybe one of your relatives will. At which point, please check back in to tell us how much you support Legal Recreational Pot.

      • June 24, 2019 at 1:39 pm
        Sally Anne Fannymaker says:
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        If you were genuine in your argument, you would be more offended that alcohol and cigarettes are legal. There is no comparison in the cost on society.

        • June 24, 2019 at 3:08 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          Ah, yes. The dumbest argument in the Pot Fan playbook: other bad things are legal, so let’s make one more bad thing legal.

          Free tip for Sally Anne: keep away from the bong.

          • June 24, 2019 at 6:26 pm
            How Appropriate says:
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            The dumbest “pro-pot argument” being made in an argument with the dumbest “anti-pot” person I ever had the displeasure of hearing from.

          • June 24, 2019 at 8:37 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            What? Outside of name calling, there isn’t a crumb of argument in your post. You high? I hope so.

    • June 25, 2019 at 8:35 am
      OpPolaResearch Bear says:
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      @Capt. Kangaroo: What IS being hidden from the public is the cognitive impairment due to prolonged use of recre-pot by stoners who turn the discussion away from those dangers by steering the discussion toward alcohol and medi-pot benefits. The recent studies showing the correlation of pot use and brain impairment are being ignored or lies are written about their existence or credibility.

      No, “most” don’t feel the decision is theirs to make. It is the Political REPRESENTATIVES duty to represent the public’s will on the issue, not the special interest groups which administer biased polls to further their agenda.

      • June 25, 2019 at 8:55 am
        Captain Planet says:
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        Capt Kangaroo – how original! Oh, and hilarious, too. What’s this you and the other hypocrites say on this forum – that you don’t resort to name calling. Wow, talk about dishonest!

        Really, then why all the stereotypes about short term memory loss? Why all the DARE classes warning kids about brain impairment? THIS ISN’T ANYTHING NEW! I am not the only one who was taught this. Heck, even Cheech and Chong were making fun of themselves for cognitive disruption in their movies. Same goes for Fast Times. JUST LIKE ANY INTOXICANT – there are consequences for long time abuse. Get over yourselves.

  • June 24, 2019 at 1:31 pm
    Seriously says:
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    Really, liars figure and figures lie. Something’s never change. Traffic deaths, mental illness, etc. are increasing alright, the reasons though aren’t as clear and simple as you suggest. Clearly not driven just by “pot for fun”.

    • June 24, 2019 at 6:51 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Really? Please explain why both the Washington Post and NY Times recently ran articles about what is happening to people under age 21 in states that legalized?

      And why WOULD traffic deaths be up by 30% in Colorado since legalization? After all, the Pot Fans told us that once pot was legal, people would drop more-dangerous alcohol for much safer pot?

      And are you REALLY telling me all those mental hospitals in Colorado reporting dramatic increases in people coming in psychotic from THC are just liars?

      Man, you have no pride at all.

      • June 25, 2019 at 7:59 am
        Rosenblatt says:
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        Hi Craig,

        I completely agree driving while high is stupid, dangerous and should continue to be illegal.
        However, I found a study published February 4, 2019 which confirms an initial increase in traffic deaths (rate: 1 per million, not 30%) …

        “A study published today in the journal Addiction found that, on average, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington state (all of which have legalized medical marijuana) had about one additional traffic death per million residents.”

        …but which also reported that “the increase was temporary, and rates went back to normal after about a year. “

        Do you happen to have a newer study that supports your argument that traffic deaths are up 30% in CO?

        https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/add.14536

        • June 25, 2019 at 8:40 am
          OpPolaResearch Bear says:
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          You fail to realize Craig discussed the increase in the RATE of traffic deaths per death, not per million drivers. Re-read it. IOW; from 1% to 1.30% is a 30% increase in the rate of deaths, not deaths per million drivers.

          More important, why did you quote a study that measures the exposure to loss due to TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS in terms of RESIDENTS rather than drivers? Any underwriter or actuary would see that as an improper exposure unit for auto accident deaths. And, that covers pedestrian deaths, too!… i.e. an auto is required for a pedestrian death by impact of an auto.

        • June 25, 2019 at 8:43 am
          OpPolaResearch Bear says:
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          Addendum; using RESIDENTS as the exposure unit will also distort the stat because the state is increasing in population with an influx of stoners. So, a 30% increase of deaths, not deaths per million people (drivers or residents) will be reduced by an increase in the total drivers or residents in the state, and imply the rate spiked but returned to ‘normal’ levels. That is a clear sign that particular study doesn’t wish to pursue the truth.

        • June 25, 2019 at 9:23 am
          Rosenblatt says:
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          Okay Polar & Craig – I then respectfully ask one of you to support your argument that “traffic deaths [increased] by 30% in Colorado since legalization.”

          Make sure you cite data that encompasses 2016 as it appears fatalities have actually decreased back to the norm after the first few years of CO’s legalization of marijuana.

          PS: Polar – the study I cited definitely was about fatalities and not just accidents, and it was about residents because that’s what the source data (CDC WONDER and RoadSafetyBC) had for analysis.

          • June 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            I gave the link to the story on traffic statistics to you before. Your game is stupid. You are wrong on so many statistics on legal recreational pot.

            More kids are getting addicted. More kids are dropping out of school. More kids are becoming permanently mentally ill. Crime rates are going up, not down. The Black Market is not getting smaller.

            And more people are dying in car crashes, something so logical and predictable as to reveal either dishonesty or stupidity on the part of people who said that wouldn’t happen.

            So, are more kids suffering worth it, Rosenblatt? Your friends kids, maybe? Your family? Just so a few adults can get high?

          • June 25, 2019 at 1:29 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            (begin sarcasm) Thank you for not being willing to support your argument with evidence. You have tremendous posts, among the best posts in the history of IJ. I’ve actually heard like 97% think your posts are awesome, That’s a record. But I won’t actually say that, because who knows?

          • June 25, 2019 at 2:04 pm
            craig cornell says:
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            Another dodge from the Brave Rosenblatt. Answer the question:

            is the damage to kids worth legalized recreational pot?

          • June 25, 2019 at 2:39 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            I’ll be happy to answer you once you provide your source that “traffic deaths [increased] by 30% in Colorado since legalization” and making sure that your data is through 2016 to confirm if rates reverted back to the pre-legalization rate or not.

          • June 25, 2019 at 5:01 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            And another Dodge! Oh, the courage of liberals to speak the truth.

            The question was about damage to kids, not traffic accidents.
            Man up. (Gavin Newsome said those are the two most evil words in the English language, so I’m going to use that phrase A LOT.)

            Do you think the damage to kids is an acceptable price to pay in order to have legal recreational pot?

          • June 25, 2019 at 5:17 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            A recent roadside study of 2,355 drivers in Washington State found that, six months after introducing recreational sales of marijuana, the proportion of daytime drivers testing positive for THC (the
            hallucinogenic ingredient in marijuana) almost tripled from 8% to 23% (Eichelberger, 2019).

            The percent of traffic fatalities that involved drivers intoxicated with marijuana in Colorado rose by 86% between 2013 and 2017, with over one-fifth of all traffic fatalities involving a driver testing positive for marijuana by 2017 (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 2006-2011; Colorado Department of
            Transportation, 2012-2017).

            65% of Coloradan drivers testing positive for marijuana in 2017 combined marijuana with alcohol
            and/or other illicit drugs (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 2006-2011; Colorado
            Department of Transportation, 2012-2017).

            Over 20% of 2018 DUI arrests in Colorado also involved testing positive for marijuana (Colorado Department of Transportation, 2017).

            Research by the Highway Loss Data Institute finds that following legalization of recreational marijuana in Colorado, Oregon and Washington, collision claims in these three states were significantly higher than in comparable, neighboring, non-legal states (Highway Loss Data Institute, 2018).

            In Oregon, 50% of all drivers assessed by Drug Recognition Experts in 2015 tested positive for THC. Toxicology reports show that the rate of drivers testing positive for THC has consistently increased, indicating an increase in instances of THC-related impaired driving (Oregon Liquor Control Commission,
            2016).

  • June 24, 2019 at 4:31 pm
    Skyjester says:
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    Except for our military and defense spending since WWII, the Controlled Substances Act and subsequent “war on drugs” in our country has been the largest squandering of public tax dollars in human history. Usage rates for most recreational drugs haven’t budged since the 1970’s, while damage to public health from these drugs is far outstripped by the damage caused by these inane drug laws. Millions of Americans had (and continue having) their careers, families and lives destroyed simply for doing something that people have always done, and will always do, regardless of our laws. The numbers speak for themselves: the “war on drugs” has been not only an unqualified failure but a national disaster.

    • June 24, 2019 at 6:54 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Decriminalizing pot and legalizing recreational pot are two wildly different things. (And “largest squandering of public tax dollars”? Please, there are about 50 candidates for that title coming out of the Feds. Start with Head Start, Obama’s Stimulus, the War on Poverty that didn’t budge poverty rates. . . )

      Oh, yeah. Usage rates have gone UP in states that legazlied, so you got that wrong too.

      • June 25, 2019 at 12:34 pm
        Agent says:
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        Craig, one only has to look at the problems in Washington State, Oregon and California to see how bad this problem is. Marijuana is a gateway drug that leads to more serious drugs like Meth, Cocaine, Opioid use. Some of the posters are currently “Scromiting” yet again to try to prove their point. It isn’t working, by the way.

      • June 26, 2019 at 3:11 pm
        Agent says:
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        Well Craig, you provided the proof, but you can’t understand it for the committed Pot Heads on this forum.

        • June 26, 2019 at 4:03 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          Exactly. Truth is Not a Liberal Value. When I give them the evidence, they run away. Better to push pot that hurts kids and kills people on the road than ever admit you might be wrong on something. Liberal Values.

    • June 25, 2019 at 8:47 am
      OpPolaResearch Bear says:
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      The military and war on drugs protected US citizens from dangers, both abroad and domestic, from bullets, bombs, autos, and other forms of death & harm from terrorist and stoners/ drug addicts alike.

      It’s your kind of lies and propaganda that prevented the war on drugs and terrorists from being more effective than it could have been. But with freedom of information exchange, your propaganda will be more easily refuted online, and not sustainable by the liberal mainstream media.

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  • June 27, 2019 at 4:41 am
    scott says:
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    Dems talk a good game but scared to put their name on something its a money cure all for every state but Dems only care about increasing taxes.



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