Another story about more foolish people who think they can change the course of nature, and who are going to be disappointed that their efforts are for naught, as is evidenced by the current climate.
Al Gore predicted in 2006 in “An Inconvenient Truth” that we’d be in ‘dire climate circumstances’ (paraphrased) by 2014-16. LOL!
Here’s Al’s ten key failed predictions (aka lies):
Hey polar, you’re posting straight up conspiracy theory websites and claiming they’re fact. That’s what we call LIES AND MISINFORMATION. You’ve done this before, but the fact that you’d try it so overtly is pretty telling of the lack of reality you live in. Nice try, boomer.
What’s wrong polar? No three responses now that you’ve been called out for blatant misinformation? Not even to tell that mediafactcheck or Snopes or literally any fact checking organization is socialist? Your rhetoric is getting old. You deal in misinformation, troll elsewhere troll.
There is no way I’m going to trust a source checker. They are all biased as to what truth is relevant and will lean to one side being more true than the other that supports what they believe on any multitude of facts.
A fact checker on one piece, yes, a fact checker on a source, no.
Also, you didn’t debate what was wrong with his source, as usual, you went for the source. Care to check for holes in the methodology? Or are we once again going for the Trump method, fake (Fox) news? You like Trump a lot I see, or how he does politics. I don’t do politics like Trump, and I support a good chunk of his policies, (though not all).
Nothing is wrong with my post on the YouGov poll. Note that it expresses the concerns of 17 COUNTRIES about how Americans should behave. Should we cede control of our lives to foreigners? If you think so, tell us which countries we should heed to live OUR lives.
You avoided the conclusion that Al Gore was wrong multiple times. You attacked the source as ‘erred’. Tell everyone how that is the case. Which prediction by Gore turned out as he predicted?
LOL Your entire conclusion was based on false information. Or do you really expect anyone to believe 91% of americans are more worried about terrorism than climate change? You’re a joke, Polar.
Here’s one from this year that shows it’s grown considerably in concern in our country. I wonder why you might misrepresent that? Maybe because you know you’re full of it?
Al Gore made some erroneous statements, sure. He’s admitted as much. You’ve been wrong time and time again and NEVER admitted to it. That’s called being a gutless coward, Polar.
I think I’ll trust the overall intelligence and resolve of the World Financial and Insurance institutions’ research and investment decisions that recognize the need for change rather than the piffle you awkwardly demonstrate and aerate here on a daily basis.
Your lack of shame in your Monday thru Friday grasp-at-straws and song and dance postings always gives us a good chuckle. Carry on Don Quixote.
Oh SNAP! Down goes Yogi!!! Don Quixote, that is hilarious. It’s a windmill, Yogi. You are fighting a windmill.
I am with you, Andrew. All 15 scientists still trying to deny are all bought and paid for by the oil and coal industries. Deniers…same as dopers same as vapers. Last time I didn’t think I could make a change, I tried and realized I not only could, but did. Why don’t these deniers just admit the truth and say they are too lazy to put forth the effort? I lead by example and am not going to wait to follow someone else. Last time I checked, that’s the American spirit. Why would we wait on China and India? Let’s be leaders!
The ‘deniers’ are those whose failed predictions are now undermining their effort to control citizens behavior and finances by perpetrating fraud. They deny their predictions were wrong and not based on substantiated facts. They deny that data was censored by ‘Climate Scientists’ to achieve their ends.
I haven’t ‘gone down’. Global temperatures will, though, eventually. Then, it will rise, again.
Chinese proverb (practiced by their coal-fired factory lords): “What you hear about may be false. What you see is true.”
Funny, what I see are experts continually saying man made climate change is real while your side continues to deny it. Just like your side denied climate change at all was real, until that became inarguable. Your side was wrong about climate change, but now you’re right about man made.climate change? I don’t think so. I think you’re all liars and you’re just moving onto the next lie while you can. History will remember you for the cowards and shills for big business that you are.
Which side denies climate change? I think a small percentage of people believe so… and that doesn’t comprise a ‘side’ as I understand your use of the term. Perhaps you forgot the qualifier ‘man-caused’ or omitted it intentionally…. until the later sentences in your post.
Is Al Gore a liar, poor prophet, or a scammer? Or, two, or all three?
Your side (the GOP) has a history of denying climate change until recent years when it became impossible to do so. Now they just deny that it’s man-made. You’re transparent, Polar. No one cares about Al Gore but you, we just care about what’s happening now, which you seem oblivious to at all turns.
January 8, 2020 at 10:28 am
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I know I’ll trust the fact that Global Climate Change Hoaxers have been proven wrong in their predictions from over 14 years ago, and some in the interim. I know I’ll attack the credibility of the Hoaxers in their failed predictions rather than attack them personally (like internet-hidden cowards do here on IJ).
A couple of snippets from a report from Munich Re.
‘The typhoon season shows that we must consider short-term natural climate variations as well as long-term trends due to climate change,’ said Ernst Rauch, of Munich Re, in a statement in the report.”
Also, “Climate change was a factor in the growing losses from hailstorms across the globe, indicated the reinsurer. ‘Recent scientific studies have shown that we can expect hailstorms to increase in many regions as a consequence of climate change,’ said Rauch. ‘It is also clear in this case: Measures such as better early-warning systems and more resistant building materials are important in order to mitigate against long-term increases in losses.'”
None of that report stated man can change climate. It suggests predictions are for an increase in hailstorm losses. So, they will act to mitigate the risk and price insurance accordingly.
Munich Re can shape policy in Germany. US citizens are not beholden to the will of German firms.
Actuaries are beholden to consider anything affecting claims in their pricing efforts. If someone could convince them to consider man-made impacts, I’ll review their analysis based on credible data and solid methodology by those suggesting man can affect the climate.
Land O’ Lakes? Perhaps, if enough glaciers melt and sea levels rise. But, ObaMartha’s Vineyard Homeowner doesn’t seem to be concerned about that.
Hint: “mitigate losses”.
Finally; ” …consider short-term natural climate variations as well as long-term trends due to climate change ”
implies there are two types of climate cycles; short and long duration.
An analogy is annual seasons (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter) and long cycles of ice ages and warm ages.
Note the term is ‘Climate Change’, not ‘Climate Monotonic Upward Trend’.
You lied and posted blatantly false information earlier. Why should we trust ANYTHING you post? You have proven to submit false information time and time again, you have been flat out proven wrong time and time again, why do you think we should assume you’re right about anything? Try to prove one of your ridiculous claims, for now you’re just another climate denying liar.
January 10, 2020 at 12:37 pm
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Hey Jon; you’re using a biased ‘fact-checking’ org…. as bob and I pointed elsewhere on this comment page.
January 10, 2020 at 12:53 pm
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LOL There is literally no source of information you wouldn’t claim is biased or false. You guys are a joke, try to spread your lies like 91% of americans are more worried about terrorism than climate change
(a BOLD lie) we’ll be right here to keep pointing out your BS :)
January 10, 2020 at 2:50 pm
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Polar,
I recall you have trouble recognizing Snopes was not a biased website (I can show you that once again if you want).
You claim many things have bias, unless you agree with it. Do you not understand every person and every organization has some inherent bias (human nature), but how they portray it can be differently. I believe you still don’t comprehend this as you are confusing you disagreeing with something that was fact checked with bias. You have the bias, but the organization fact checked it and you are wrong.
Glad to help you see your own bias and lack of knowledge on the subject!
January 9, 2020 at 3:42 pm
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hmmm…the President just said he doesn’t believe climate change is a hoax. Does that mean HE’S wrong now? Did he just join the Deep State?
Because as noted, your side couldn’t keep denying climate change (which they were until recent years) now you’re denying man made climate change. You were wrong about climate change, why should anyone believe you about man made climate change?
January 9, 2020 at 2:53 pm
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I don’t trust organizations, I trust facts. It’s not about the who, it’s about the what.
As for companies looking into possible scenarios, that is business. That doesn’t mean they side with climate change numbers. They are doing due diligence, you are taking it to mean something it does not. Polar is one end of the scale, you are the other. You’re not in a superior position to him.
LOL then you believe his claim that 91% of americans believe terrorism is a bigger threat than climate change? Here’s a fact: Your side is full of it, and willing to push false information to create a narrative that supports junk science. You responded above exactly how I expected him to. He pushed a conspiracy theory website giving false information, and you deny that any “fact checker” website is valid. Your side really likes pretending facts are negotiable, the issue is they’re not. Cowards the lot of you.
You mean the YouGov poll I posted above from four years ago? That doesn’t actually say 91% of americans believe terrorism is a bigger threat than climate change? So you posted a conspiracy theory website with false information, then clung to the YouGov part instead of admitting to being wrong. What are you going to cling to now, troll?
January 9, 2020 at 11:34 am
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Remind me how many people have been arrested for starting fires in Australia? That’s right, over 200.
I’ll never understand why protecting and taking care of earth is a political issue. Whether it’s man-made or not, don’t you want to keep your home clean and safe?
Once again: The issue being debated WAS whether climate change was real at all, and your side argued tooth and nail that it wasn’t. Your side was wrong. Now your side is arguing tooth and nail that man-made climate change isn’t real. Your side is wrong again. You are shills for big business that profits from us continuing to not acknowledge man-made climate change, and everyone knows it.
Another story about more foolish people who think they can change the course of nature, and who are going to be disappointed that their efforts are for naught, as is evidenced by the current climate.
Al Gore predicted in 2006 in “An Inconvenient Truth” that we’d be in ‘dire climate circumstances’ (paraphrased) by 2014-16. LOL!
Here’s Al’s ten key failed predictions (aka lies):
https://prepareforchange.net/2018/01/01/al-gores-10-global-warming-predictions-12-years-later-none-happened/
Spoiler Alert for Climate Hoaxers: nothing happened.
Here is a key excerpt from the above linked article:
A January YouGov poll of 17 countries found that 91% of Americans are not concerned about global warming. Their number one concern – global terrorism.
MISINFORMATION ALERT
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/prepare-for-change/
Hey polar, you’re posting straight up conspiracy theory websites and claiming they’re fact. That’s what we call LIES AND MISINFORMATION. You’ve done this before, but the fact that you’d try it so overtly is pretty telling of the lack of reality you live in. Nice try, boomer.
What’s wrong polar? No three responses now that you’ve been called out for blatant misinformation? Not even to tell that mediafactcheck or Snopes or literally any fact checking organization is socialist? Your rhetoric is getting old. You deal in misinformation, troll elsewhere troll.
There is no way I’m going to trust a source checker. They are all biased as to what truth is relevant and will lean to one side being more true than the other that supports what they believe on any multitude of facts.
A fact checker on one piece, yes, a fact checker on a source, no.
Also, you didn’t debate what was wrong with his source, as usual, you went for the source. Care to check for holes in the methodology? Or are we once again going for the Trump method, fake (Fox) news? You like Trump a lot I see, or how he does politics. I don’t do politics like Trump, and I support a good chunk of his policies, (though not all).
I agree with bob on the fact checking process.
Nothing is wrong with my post on the YouGov poll. Note that it expresses the concerns of 17 COUNTRIES about how Americans should behave. Should we cede control of our lives to foreigners? If you think so, tell us which countries we should heed to live OUR lives.
You avoided the conclusion that Al Gore was wrong multiple times. You attacked the source as ‘erred’. Tell everyone how that is the case. Which prediction by Gore turned out as he predicted?
LOL Your entire conclusion was based on false information. Or do you really expect anyone to believe 91% of americans are more worried about terrorism than climate change? You’re a joke, Polar.
BTW Polar:
today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/02/01/global-survey-us-among-least-worried-about-climate
Your poll from “January” you keep referencing? January 2016. Funny you left that part off.
bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-06-26/here-s-how-climate-change-is-viewed-around-the-world
Here’s one from this year that shows it’s grown considerably in concern in our country. I wonder why you might misrepresent that? Maybe because you know you’re full of it?
Al Gore made some erroneous statements, sure. He’s admitted as much. You’ve been wrong time and time again and NEVER admitted to it. That’s called being a gutless coward, Polar.
By your logic:
theonion.com/study-finds-global-warming-accelerating-formation-of-po-1839438656
This is a TOTALLY true website you guys, can you believe it? Yeah there’s no way to prove it’s not, so try and debate me cowards.
That’s what you sound like guys.
Silly me. I thought the story was about how the Australian insurance industry takes climate change seriously.
Who will ask China and India to comply with the Climate Hoax by shutting down their coal-fired energy plants and factories?
I think I’ll trust the overall intelligence and resolve of the World Financial and Insurance institutions’ research and investment decisions that recognize the need for change rather than the piffle you awkwardly demonstrate and aerate here on a daily basis.
Your lack of shame in your Monday thru Friday grasp-at-straws and song and dance postings always gives us a good chuckle. Carry on Don Quixote.
Oh SNAP! Down goes Yogi!!! Don Quixote, that is hilarious. It’s a windmill, Yogi. You are fighting a windmill.
I am with you, Andrew. All 15 scientists still trying to deny are all bought and paid for by the oil and coal industries. Deniers…same as dopers same as vapers. Last time I didn’t think I could make a change, I tried and realized I not only could, but did. Why don’t these deniers just admit the truth and say they are too lazy to put forth the effort? I lead by example and am not going to wait to follow someone else. Last time I checked, that’s the American spirit. Why would we wait on China and India? Let’s be leaders!
The ‘deniers’ are those whose failed predictions are now undermining their effort to control citizens behavior and finances by perpetrating fraud. They deny their predictions were wrong and not based on substantiated facts. They deny that data was censored by ‘Climate Scientists’ to achieve their ends.
I haven’t ‘gone down’. Global temperatures will, though, eventually. Then, it will rise, again.
Chinese proverb (practiced by their coal-fired factory lords): “What you hear about may be false. What you see is true.”
Funny, what I see are experts continually saying man made climate change is real while your side continues to deny it. Just like your side denied climate change at all was real, until that became inarguable. Your side was wrong about climate change, but now you’re right about man made.climate change? I don’t think so. I think you’re all liars and you’re just moving onto the next lie while you can. History will remember you for the cowards and shills for big business that you are.
Which side denies climate change? I think a small percentage of people believe so… and that doesn’t comprise a ‘side’ as I understand your use of the term. Perhaps you forgot the qualifier ‘man-caused’ or omitted it intentionally…. until the later sentences in your post.
Is Al Gore a liar, poor prophet, or a scammer? Or, two, or all three?
journals.openedition.org/ejas/10305#tocto1n2
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial
nytimes.com/2017/06/03/us/politics/republican-leaders-climate-change.html
Your side (the GOP) has a history of denying climate change until recent years when it became impossible to do so. Now they just deny that it’s man-made. You’re transparent, Polar. No one cares about Al Gore but you, we just care about what’s happening now, which you seem oblivious to at all turns.
I know I’ll trust the fact that Global Climate Change Hoaxers have been proven wrong in their predictions from over 14 years ago, and some in the interim. I know I’ll attack the credibility of the Hoaxers in their failed predictions rather than attack them personally (like internet-hidden cowards do here on IJ).
A couple of snippets from a report from Munich Re.
‘The typhoon season shows that we must consider short-term natural climate variations as well as long-term trends due to climate change,’ said Ernst Rauch, of Munich Re, in a statement in the report.”
Also, “Climate change was a factor in the growing losses from hailstorms across the globe, indicated the reinsurer. ‘Recent scientific studies have shown that we can expect hailstorms to increase in many regions as a consequence of climate change,’ said Rauch. ‘It is also clear in this case: Measures such as better early-warning systems and more resistant building materials are important in order to mitigate against long-term increases in losses.'”
None of that report stated man can change climate. It suggests predictions are for an increase in hailstorm losses. So, they will act to mitigate the risk and price insurance accordingly.
Munich Re can shape policy in Germany. US citizens are not beholden to the will of German firms.
Actuaries are beholden to consider anything affecting claims in their pricing efforts. If someone could convince them to consider man-made impacts, I’ll review their analysis based on credible data and solid methodology by those suggesting man can affect the climate.
LOL. Thank you.
Land O’ Lakes? Perhaps, if enough glaciers melt and sea levels rise. But, ObaMartha’s Vineyard Homeowner doesn’t seem to be concerned about that.
Hint: “mitigate losses”.
Finally; ” …consider short-term natural climate variations as well as long-term trends due to climate change ”
implies there are two types of climate cycles; short and long duration.
An analogy is annual seasons (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter) and long cycles of ice ages and warm ages.
Note the term is ‘Climate Change’, not ‘Climate Monotonic Upward Trend’.
Hey Polar,
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/prepare-for-change/
You lied and posted blatantly false information earlier. Why should we trust ANYTHING you post? You have proven to submit false information time and time again, you have been flat out proven wrong time and time again, why do you think we should assume you’re right about anything? Try to prove one of your ridiculous claims, for now you’re just another climate denying liar.
Hey Jon; you’re using a biased ‘fact-checking’ org…. as bob and I pointed elsewhere on this comment page.
LOL There is literally no source of information you wouldn’t claim is biased or false. You guys are a joke, try to spread your lies like 91% of americans are more worried about terrorism than climate change
(a BOLD lie) we’ll be right here to keep pointing out your BS :)
Polar,
I recall you have trouble recognizing Snopes was not a biased website (I can show you that once again if you want).
You claim many things have bias, unless you agree with it. Do you not understand every person and every organization has some inherent bias (human nature), but how they portray it can be differently. I believe you still don’t comprehend this as you are confusing you disagreeing with something that was fact checked with bias. You have the bias, but the organization fact checked it and you are wrong.
Glad to help you see your own bias and lack of knowledge on the subject!
hmmm…the President just said he doesn’t believe climate change is a hoax. Does that mean HE’S wrong now? Did he just join the Deep State?
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/477548-trump-says-nothings-a-hoax-about-climate-change
A. Climate Change.
B. Man-made Climate Change.
Pick one and stick to it over the course of these discussions.
Because as noted, your side couldn’t keep denying climate change (which they were until recent years) now you’re denying man made climate change. You were wrong about climate change, why should anyone believe you about man made climate change?
I don’t trust organizations, I trust facts. It’s not about the who, it’s about the what.
As for companies looking into possible scenarios, that is business. That doesn’t mean they side with climate change numbers. They are doing due diligence, you are taking it to mean something it does not. Polar is one end of the scale, you are the other. You’re not in a superior position to him.
The ego here is astounding.
LOL then you believe his claim that 91% of americans believe terrorism is a bigger threat than climate change? Here’s a fact: Your side is full of it, and willing to push false information to create a narrative that supports junk science. You responded above exactly how I expected him to. He pushed a conspiracy theory website giving false information, and you deny that any “fact checker” website is valid. Your side really likes pretending facts are negotiable, the issue is they’re not. Cowards the lot of you.
The YouGov poll was taken in 17 COUNTRIES. Did you read ANYTHING before you replied and down-voted? {apparently not.}
You mean the YouGov poll I posted above from four years ago? That doesn’t actually say 91% of americans believe terrorism is a bigger threat than climate change? So you posted a conspiracy theory website with false information, then clung to the YouGov part instead of admitting to being wrong. What are you going to cling to now, troll?
Remind me how many people have been arrested for starting fires in Australia? That’s right, over 200.
Pants on fire KP:
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/9/21058332/australia-fires-arson-lightning-explained
I’ll never understand why protecting and taking care of earth is a political issue. Whether it’s man-made or not, don’t you want to keep your home clean and safe?
Yes.
But it is not a high priority because so little that man does will affect the Earth over the long-run.
The issue being debated is man’s ability to control the climate.
Once again: The issue being debated WAS whether climate change was real at all, and your side argued tooth and nail that it wasn’t. Your side was wrong. Now your side is arguing tooth and nail that man-made climate change isn’t real. Your side is wrong again. You are shills for big business that profits from us continuing to not acknowledge man-made climate change, and everyone knows it.